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361  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Patience can help alot on: March 31, 2024, 06:42:56 PM
Basically in any case in my opinion patience is always an important aspect especially in solving a problem or other things, which usually by applying patience then you will have time to consider properly related to what to do, and also of course patience has a significant benefit in gambling which will help you to be able to minimize emotions when you experience defeat especially when you put some money that you cannot afford to account for.

This means that patience can prevent something that we don't want such as experiencing a larger amount of defeat due to you continuing the session based on emotions due to the inability to accept the fact of defeat in the previous session, because as we know that the general disease in gambling is always about one's inability to accept the fact of defeat which usually always ends with the act of chasing victory to restore something that has been lost before, which means patience is a very important point and should not be ignored for a preventive measure.
362  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which of these betting Statements Do you Agree or Disagree With? on: March 31, 2024, 06:23:09 PM
1. Don't bet all your money on one bet.
2. Bet the same amount on every bet.
3. Don't bet more than once a day.
4. Don't bet every day.


You maybe forgot the most important one which is "Never bet using money you may afford to lose whatever the amount is". I consider these to be the most important statements of all, which, although they have recently been invented and used extensively in trading, but this confirms their essence even more, because trading or investing in crypto can also be considered a form of gambling, given that you can never guess a movement. Price, and therefore the trader will bet on a specific currency, anticipating that its price will rise. Timing is also very important because it is also not possible to accurately predict when this might happen. There are certainly differences between them, but they can be classified under the category of gambling.


There is another rule whose importance I would like to stress: "Not Your Keys, Not Your Coins".

From some of the precautions suggested above I would agree with your opinion that we should not ignore or even forget other precautions that are no less important which as you said it is "never bet with the amount you cannot afford to lose", this is the most important point in gambling because there are so many irresponsible gamblers who do not have the ability to accept the fact of losing which in turn makes them experience emotions and instead put the amount they cannot afford to lose.

Usually this kind of action is mostly done by beginners, especially those who come because they are too tempted by the name of winning opportunities so they put large amounts because they are too confident and hope for victory, even though gambling is full of uncertainties that can make you feel disappointed at the end of the session when everything does not go according to what you expected. Another thing is that I agree with you that trading or investing can also work like gambling because there is a slight element of similarity in that we cannot fully predict price movements which means that there is always a possibility of risk that can occur at any time when your prediction misses and gambling as well as trading is an activity that involves money and also an activity that cannot be accurately predicted regarding the results of its victory so of course this is the reason why we are more advised to only put the amount of budget that we can be responsible for.
363  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The person who can’t control emotions in gambling will never earn money from it on: March 31, 2024, 06:03:16 PM
I would like to say that you are right that those people who are cannot control their emotions when they do gambling there will never earn from gambling and I will also add one more thing here those public who are also in greedy. If a person has these two characteristics I think he should not gamble. Because if emotions and greediness are not controlled, it will be seen that even if he wins a bet due to good luck, he will later lose due to greed.

Besides, on the other hand, I think gambling is not a place to earn so there is obviously no way and no reason to be able to earn in gambling, or the point is that no matter if you are someone who is able to manage emotions and greed, gambling is still not an activity to earn because the problem of winning is always about "coincidence" which means that even if you are a responsible gambler, you will not be able to earn there unless you win occasionally by chance.

This means that the ability to control emotions and manage greed is not the ability to earn in gambling, it is nothing more than just to minimize the possibility of a larger number of losses and not to earn income continuously. But overall I agree with your suggestion that if you or anyone else is someone who can't control their emotions and greed then obviously the best decision is not to get involved in gambling at all.
364  Other / Off-topic / Re: Can family members help a gambling addict? on: March 31, 2024, 05:43:34 PM
Many people are going through gambling addiction but they manage to keep it a secret from their families and loved ones. The only people that know about their gambling activities are their close friends. In the event that you are one of those close friend to a gambling addict, do you think it is right to tell their loved ones with the intention that they will be able to talk to him and help him overcome his addiction? Can the advice of loved ones even help? What is the most effective way of going about gambling addiction.

I do not think family member can help. and it's not a problem.
because the help that family members can offer is different from that which can be given by people who are professionally trained to support in these situations.
everyone must have the role they are "designed" for....

But on the other hand I can't fully say that family members can't help at all or that means they can't have any influence on changing someone who is addicted to gambling, because they are the closest people to the addicted gambler who has a strong enough feeling of love and bond that I think any way that family members can at least melt the heart of a gambler to at least consider the advice given which leads to preventive action.

On the other hand, I also agree with your opinion and suggestion that there are other parties who can help cure someone who is addicted to gambling, such as professionals who already have quite high flying hours related to dealing with addiction problems like this, which means that maybe they know better about what should be done to help cure someone who is addicted and overall I think these two parties, namely family members and experts, still have the possibility to be able to influence change towards someone who is addicted to gambling.
365  Other / Off-topic / Re: Dont chase your loss on: March 31, 2024, 05:23:57 PM
I think yes we all agree with the idea that chasing victory to return something that has been lost is an action that is not recommended, on the other hand I am not saying that you will not win because maybe luck will come at that time, but we have to understand that the result at the end of gambling has absolutely no certainty whatsoever that guarantees you will win, meaning that the possibility of losing is still very likely to occur which in the end will actually cause you to lose a larger amount.

And also I am sure that when you act to chase victory to restore something that has been lost, then you will definitely gamble with revenge or based on emotions, where as we know, all decisions based on emotions are usually decisions that are not valid. common sense and yes of course with this the possibility of defeat is very likely to occur. Therefore, this is the reason why we are always advised to gamble without placing any hope of winning, because with that I am sure you will only place an amount that you can afford, which means that this situation will not make you too emotional when it turns out you lose.
Chasing gambling losses is pointless. The house always win, plainly. Luck betting is like picking a racehorse because of its cool name; you might win, but it's not a winning formula

Gambling without hope? I understand the temptation, but it's like managing damage without correcting it. Despite a strict budget, the system is rigged. When emotions enter? Ignore it. Trying to win back losses in fury or desperation will cause a meltdown

Gambling requires respect and caution. Not looking for a miracle victory, but realizing the dangers. Only by setting limitations and betting with a clear head can you play this game without getting burned. Any other approach is just a slow march into disaster

Yes that's right and one of the reasons why chasing losses is pointless is because it's too risky an action which is most likely like some of the cases that have happened where you will only lose a larger amount of money instead of achieving recovery, another reason is because gambling is not a place to earn so of course it's natural that for example losses are more common than wins because you also said it here that the fact is that the house always wins anyway.

Gambling is full of temptations that look very tempting which basically most people are unable to ignore this so in the end this is what makes a person become so impulsive in gambling when it turns out that things that look tempting turn out to be nothing more than a trap and obviously the inability to accept the fact of losing is always the first trigger for someone to act worse based on emotions because something they expected turned out not to be appropriate.

On the other hand if we are one of those people who are very meticulous then yes I think they will think of all the ways to manage, balance and control everything properly, but it is a fact that most people only see gambling in terms of winning opportunities.
366  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: March 31, 2024, 04:30:38 PM
I don't think Bayern Munich's defeat against Dortmund in the Bundesliga can be used as a reference for the match against Dortmund because of the different motivations between the two teams.
While the match against Arsenal will be different, Bayern Munich has the possibility of being slightly better than what happened in the previous season in the meeting between the two and in terms of quality these two teams have almost equal strength so indeed the Bayern Munich vs Arsenal quarter-final match will be quite fierce and very interesting.

Munich's defeat in the league certainly cannot be used as a benchmark because indeed at this time Munich is no longer too focused on the league, but despite all our expectations of course the defeat to Dortmund is a bad enough result for Tuchel this season after they are 11 seasons unbeaten by Dortmund in the league, although Munich lost the game but I am personally quite sure if it will not affect their performance in the Champions League later.

As a team that is quite experienced, of course Munich knows how they rise quickly after the defeat, and Arsenal should be wary because indeed they will make Arsenal as an outlet for their defeat to Dortmund, the quality and experience of Munich in the Champions League is certainly a foundation for us to continue to believe Munich can continue to advance to the next round in the Champions League,  Arsenal are in pretty onfire form in the league but still the depth of the squad they have at the moment is doubtful for me if Arsenal can talk more in the Champions League this season.
Yes, their defeat cannot be a benchmark that they will do the same thing when facing Arsenal. They will definitely get up quickly and forget the defeat they experienced in this match, because even regret will not have any effect on them. Now what they have to do is focus on the match they will face.

They have sufficient preparation time before this match takes place. In that time they can prepare everything they need so that they don't fail again. In particular, perhaps the Champions League is the last chance for them to win the title because in the Bundesliga it can be said that their chances of becoming champions are closed.

Bayern Munich had no other choice but to go all out in this match. They actually already had an early advantage before this match was played. Yes, on paper they are more favorites than the opponents they will face, Arsenal. Therefore they must not miss the opportunity that comes to them in the Champions League, even though it is not something easy.
367  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: March 31, 2024, 04:11:02 PM
But it looks like Bayern Munich will do something so that Leverkusen next season doesn't appear like this again with Bayern Munich making an offer to Xabi Alonso to become coach of Bayern Munich next season and if this offer is really accepted by Xabi Alonso it is possible that Leverkusen will not perform as well as it is now and we will see Xabi Alonso coaching a new club next season.
You seem to have missed the important news that was discussed previously that Xabi Alonso will never have the intention to leave Bayer Leverkusen no matter what happens without being retained by Leverkusen management, Xabi still has big dreams with Leverkusen to be able to try to win higher titles in Champions League.
Bayern Munich will not have high hopes for Xabi arrival because Bayern Munich knows better when choosing the right coach with much more experience to get higher quality player performance, while Xabi does not have much experience.
Rumors of Xabi departure from Leverkusen will not happen this season or maybe in the next few seasons.
Xabi has made a decision for next season, he decided to stay with Leverkusen. This is good news for Leverkusen because they don't have to try hard to convince Xabi to stay with them. On the contrary, it closes down hopes for other clubs to be able to get Xabi's signature to become their coach.

I've already said they did well this season, and I'm more looking forward to seeing how they do next season. If Xabi can maintain this form and come back like this for next season, they will definitely get a lot of attention, especially Xabi Alonso. Surely he will be a coach that many of Europe's top clubs will compete to become their coach.

In my opinion, next season will be proof for Xabi that he is indeed a coach who can be really relied on. Because currently there are still many who think that what he did with Leverkusen this season was a stroke of luck that he got. He must be able to silence those who doubt them this season.
368  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: March 31, 2024, 03:55:37 PM
Augsburg vs Köln in the match between two teams in Germany League, so far both teams are tied with 1-1 goals. I bet in support of Augsburg team in this match. I am worried about how well Augsburg team players can perform. Augsburg team if any other in this match.  Augsburg team can't win this match if they can't score. Köln team had bad performance in the previous matches, it seems that they will do better today. And if there is no goal between the two teams in this match, the match will be a draw.
The match ended in a draw with the final score 1-1. Augsburg were able to score a goal first but their lead could not last until the end of the first half. I actually didn't expect this result because in terms of superiority, it was clear that Augsburg were more favored in this match because their opponents were also in the relegation zone, but unexpectedly they were able to make their defense solid. This result is clearly very disappointing for Augsburg because with this result they should have the same points as Freiburg.

Actually, in this match, Augsburg were better, but they could not be effective in launching attacks because every attack they carried out ended in failure. However, this result does not have much influence on Koln, because they are still in the bottom 2 positions at the bottom of the standings.

There are many who taste defeat if they bet on Augsburg. Because they failed to realize the expectations of many people in this match which could actually be said to be quite easy.
369  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: March 31, 2024, 03:33:03 PM
I don't know what happened to Juventus, they have repeatedly experienced recent defeats which should now be crucial points for them, but once again they failed in this match. The match was tight, but Lazio had better control of the match. I actually thought this match would end in a draw, but they had to accept a nightmare when Adam Marusic scored a goal in the 90th minute+.

This result means they are increasingly threatened in their current position, because Bologna and AS Roma have not played a match this week, so it is very likely that they will be closer to these two clubs. Juventus must be able to evaluate what they have experienced recently. If they continue to experience this then I won't be surprised when they fail to be in the top 4 at the end of the standings. The coach had to rack his brains to get his team back to their game at the start of the season. There was still time for them to at least maintain their current position.
370  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: March 31, 2024, 03:17:17 PM
Liverpool has been confirmed to be at the top of the Premier League standings temporarily and this will be very good for Man City and Arsenal who will fight tooth and nail to come away with 3 points. With Liverpool victory the two teams cannot share points, because if they want to catch up the only way is to win today match. For Liverpool they will still be 1 point ahead if Man City wins 3 points but if Arsenal wins 3 points then both have the same points collection. There is no other choice but to reduce the gap, because that way Liverpool, Man City and Arsenal can continue to compete until the end of the season.
What a tough game for the reds, they actually deserve the three points in this match because they played well like champions. Liverpool is now at the top of the Premier League table, with three points ahead of Arsenal and four points ahead of Manchester City respectively. Liverpool’s main aim is for Arsenal vs Manchester City match to end in a draw so that they will maintain three points clear on top of the table, while both Arsenal and Manchester City will also wants to win so as to increase their chance of winning the premier league title this season.
They were surprised by the quick goal that Brighton was able to score, but they remained calm after conceding and slowly they put pressure on Brighton, at the end they were able to score an equalizer in the 27th minute. They were able to secure a draw at the end of the first half. In the second half they tried to continue to press and what they wanted happened in the 65th minute. This result was very valuable for them because they managed to secure 3 points to be at the top of the standings for a while.

Overall, this was not an easy match for Liverpool even though in the end they were able to win the match. Brighton can provide tough competition to Liverpool, because they can create a fairly solid defense that is difficult for Liverpool to penetrate.

Now they are just waiting for the results of the match between Manchester City vs Arsenal, they definitely hope that the match will end in a draw, because with a draw they can lead by 2 points.
371  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: March 30, 2024, 07:06:50 PM
Xavi is too loyal to be Barcelona coach and because of that, I think it was the right decision for Xavi to resign. Because anyway, the financial crisis that Barcelona is going through is really having a bad impact on the management of the team and also the performance of the team.
I think the main reason Xavi resigned is because of the pressure that he is facing as Barcelona boss, especially from the Spanish media and journalists, Xavi has had problems with the press since he became manager and i believe he could not take it anymore. Barca's financial problems also contributed to the Spaniard leaving, but i don't believe that is the main reason he is leaving the club. Barcelona must look for a new manager now, with their limited funds. There is no speculation for now on who will take over from Xavi, but the person is going to have a huge job to do.
Yes, one of the reasons why he chose to resign from Barcelona's coaching chair was the pressure put on him. Even though pressure is a very normal thing that a coach receives, the problem is that I think the pressure he receives is excessive because Barcelona's situation is also not in a good condition. Maybe it would be very realistic when Barcelona could give Xavi everything he wants, but currently he is not receiving everything he needs, while management is putting pressure on him to achieve.

Barcelona should also adapt to their current situation, because I am sure all coaches will give the best for their club. They will do their best when they don't get what they need, especially if they get what they need, the same thing will definitely happen. If Barcelona continues to do things like this then I'm sure no coach will feel at home, unless they get a high salary and also get everything they need.
372  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: March 30, 2024, 06:49:23 PM
The strongest candidate in the Ligue 1 title race is PSG with 59 points and 1 match deficit they have, in second, third and fourth we have AS Monaco, Brest & Lille. The three teams are close on points and with several matches remaining it's still possible for the three teams to be in second place in the Ligue 1 standings.

Which team do you think will manage to get second place at the end of the league? any guesses?
The first place will definitely be occupied by Paris Saint Germain, but the second place is still a question mark, because the point gap between them is not too far and as usual they are not consistent, so there are still many possibilities that will happen at the end of the season. who could actually occupy second place.

Now Monaco can occupy that place, but they also only have a distance of 3 points from Brest which is right below them, followed by LOSC which only has a distance of 4 points from Monaco. For now, Monaco definitely has a big chance to maintain its position, but that also means they have to be able to ensure they don't lose too many points. The reason is that I still really believe they will still lose points. In short, whoever loses fewer points than the 3 clubs will be able to occupy second place at the end of the standings. And we can't confirm this yet because all the possibilities still exist and the opportunities for them are still quite large.
373  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: March 30, 2024, 06:34:22 PM
Still waiting to see who will emerge victorious in the match between Paris Saint Germain vs Barcelona in the quarter-finals. In my opinion, their meeting is quite balanced, because Barcelona is not in the best condition they have, while Paris Saint Germain are good in the domestic league, but in the Champions League they often struggle. It is quite difficult to predict who will win, because the two clubs that will meet have their own advantages.

This will be proof for Xavi, because he is under a lot of pressure from management, he must be able to prove that with the current situation they are experiencing they can still compete in the Champions League. On the other hand, this is also an opportunity for Paris Saint Germain, because this might be their last season with Mbappe. We know Mbappe is a mainstay for Paris Saint Germain so they will probably rely on him once again. Yes, even though we know that it won't be enough if played by just one person.
374  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: March 30, 2024, 06:23:33 PM
Milan's the favorite here. They're the better team on paper. Pioli's done a fantastic job, those guys know what they're doing. But you know me, I always think big, and Im not discounting Roma. De Rossi, the guy's a legend, but he's new to this coaching thing. Still, he's fired up that team, you can feel it.

Maybe they're not as polished as Milan, but Rome wasnt built in a day, right? They've got that fighting spirit, that underdog mentality. Sometimes, that's more powerful than experience. Milan might be more talented, but Roma wants this win more. Never underestimate a hungry team.
I don't think what you say is wrong at all because what Roma have seen after being coached by De Rossi is also quite extraordinary so underestimating a team like Roma could be a very crucial mistake for Milan. Because Roma still really want to prove their struggle in the European League this season with the presence of De Rossi in their team, Milan have to be very careful with Roma even though Milan is not worse than Roma when looking at their achievements in the domestic league.
No matter which club you are facing, never underestimate your opponent, especially if that opponent really has the potential to beat them. For me there is no reason whatsoever for a club to try to underestimate the opponents they will face.

AC Milan needs a win, Napoli also needs a win. With facts like that, all clubs will go all out in this match and this will be something that will make things difficult for the two clubs that will compete, because each of them will not just give up which will make them lose.

AS Roma's performance under De Rossi's direction so far has shown something good, they always try hard in every match so that they can achieve the desired results. AS Roma also have a good record when they are in the European League, last season they managed to be in the final, even though they were not more favorites than a club like Arsenal, but they were actually able to advance to the final even though they failed.
375  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: March 30, 2024, 06:07:13 PM
Im still impresed on how the Altawoun keeps fightin in the top positions of the league alongside the msot powerfull and reinforcement teams of the league, a really good job did by this guys until now, surely nobody at the start of the league expect this performance from them.

About Al itihad they are now only 2 points behind the third position.
Al Shahab will host Al Hilal in less than an hour, this is clearly a difficult match for Al Shahab because they have to face a club that is at the top of the standings and they will soon lock up the title. Even though this is a home match for them, it still doesn't have much of an impact, because the difference between the two clubs that will compete is very big, so it won't be easy for Al Shahab.

I think Al Shahab will play defensively in this match, because if they are too bold in attacking it will create gaps in the back line and that is very dangerous for them. They can apply a defensive strategy in the hope that they will at least hold Al Hilal to a draw, because in terms of ability it seems like it will be very difficult for them to beat Al Hilal. Here it is clear who has the advantage and there is no doubt about it. Now there are not many options for the hosts if they want to get points, because even 1 is very difficult for them to get.
376  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which of these betting Statements Do you Agree or Disagree With? on: March 30, 2024, 01:59:15 PM
I want to believe that we all agree that our betting budget should be within 5% -10% of our monthly income as responsible gamblers. However, our perspective on sports betting differs. Look at the gambling sentences and indicate which of the statements you agree or disagree with. You could also write a brief explanation for your standpoint

1. Don't bet all your money on one bet.
2. Bet the same amount on every bet.
3. Don't bet more than once a day.
4. Don't bet every day.

I agree with several statements ranging from the first to the fourth point that you conveyed above and in my opinion all of these actions apply to all types of gambling, regardless of where you gamble, whether it is in the type of pure luck betting or the type of sports betting because obviously the name of gambling activities is still always about uncertainty regarding the results at the end of the session even though yes I understand that in the type of sports betting you can use your skills and knowledge to increase the chances of winning but still all of that is still in the idea of "possibility" which means there are still other things that are still possible, namely losing.

So the point is that no matter where you bet, the possibility of losing can never be avoided entirely because whatever the type of gambling is, in the end you will always be in two possibilities, namely between winning or losing, and yes like some of the points you said that lead to being a responsible gambler by not risking all the money on one bet, betting the same amount of money on each bet, not betting more than once a day or meaning limit your betting activity along with limiting your gambling allocation budget, all of this leads to precautions to minimize unwanted possibilities.
377  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The person who can’t control emotions in gambling will never earn money from it on: March 30, 2024, 01:39:43 PM
Many people still have a hopes to win much money from gambling but they don't understand that only a few people who can makes money from gambling. Those who can't make money from gambling still trying to playing gambling even with much money because their hopes still high to make money from gambling. Many of them lose their control while playing gambling and makes them losing much money while that makes their emotional increases. That makes many people lose money from gambling and they are difficult to recovers their lost money but they don't stops or reduces their gambling activity and still trying to make money. If they realizes that they don't have a big chance to make money from gambling, they will not trying so hard instead just to enjoy their gambling activity.

To make money from gambling is extremely difficult,sure all gamblers try but very few out of millions of them really win a substantial amount or a life changing amount,like a jackpot or a max win in a slot machine with a really big bet.The people who usually manage to achieve such feat are usually gamblers that in their brain they have already decided that they will try with a certain amount of money every session they play without overdoing it and trying consistently until they hit the target,these are also the people who have quite a huge amount of emotions control and self control and they don't come out of such scheme.All other gamblers are the losers who cannot contain emotions and don't gamble with a plan.

Overall yes it is true that generating winnings in gambling is very difficult, I am not saying that you or anyone will not be able to win because when you are lucky then you will also be able to get a certain amount of winnings like everyone else, but the problem here is that there is no such thing as "consistency" in terms of generating because all wins in gambling will only happen by "chance" which means that you will only win occasionally and it is very unlikely to be able to get consecutive wins.

This is why gambling should not and also cannot be used as a place to earn because when you are unlucky then obviously you will end up losing, and also yes as you said it is true that only a few people who managed to get a big win that could change their lives and maybe I would say that they are very lucky people. Yes I quite agree with your opinion that the people who managed to get this big win or achievement are those where they can manage and control their gambling activities until they can reach the target but on the other hand I would also say that this big win can also be obtained by people who treat gambling in an excessive way like addicts, maybe when they put a very large amount of money they managed to get a big win in one session, the reason is because everything will be possible when luck comes at the right time.
378  Other / Off-topic / Re: Can family members help a gambling addict? on: March 30, 2024, 01:19:42 PM
Many people are going through gambling addiction but they manage to keep it a secret from their families and loved ones. The only people that know about their gambling activities are their close friends. In the event that you are one of those close friend to a gambling addict, do you think it is right to tell their loved ones with the intention that they will be able to talk to him and help him overcome his addiction? Can the advice of loved ones even help? What is the most effective way of going about gambling addiction.

Yes I agree with you that it is a fact that gambling addicts usually keep their gambling habits a secret from their families including their loved ones and usually they only tell a few close friends who are usually gamblers too, but as for the suggestion of whether it is a good idea to tell their families about their addiction then I think this is an idea that will only cause problems between you and your addicted friend.

I understand that your goal is good and I also understand that usually the closest people especially family have an influence on the change of a person but the problem here is that if the addicted person does not want their family to know about their gambling habits then I think it will only cause problems between you and your addicted friend, So far they have always kept it a secret from their family but you are telling their family, I think there have been quite a lot of cases like this because I have also heard that they ended up having problems in their friendship, and I would say that the most effective way to overcome gambling addiction is when the person has the desire, willingness and determination to stop.
379  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Recovering gambling addict stories on: March 30, 2024, 12:59:13 PM
I am curious about what they are thinking. Gambling away money that is supposed to be for an important cause and yet they still manage to decide to risk it. I don't have the courage to do that because I am afraid of what my wife will do to me afterward. Cheesy
Gambling is not a money making industry, it's more like a money losing industry. There's very small amount of gamblers who could tell a good story about their winning because it's very rare. So, why should we gamble our money away? We could spare some for entertainment but never go far as trying to double your whole budget. It could end up in chaos.

It's very hard to read those mind though, as addicts are very difficult to interpret, and most of the times they will do things that a rational person will not. I have encountered some individuals before, they will go to my house and sold everything that they can get their hands on. Of course, I don't buy such things unless I know that those are their personal belongings and I can get it back to their families.

Nevertheless, as we hear this stories, really hard to fathom what on those minds. But one thing is for sure, it's all base on their emotions and they seems to not control it and be carried away just for the sake of gambling.

Maybe it can be said that an addict is quite late to be able to think like that, because when someone has entered the addiction phase then they are already in an unreasonable mindset where the level of interest in gambling is very high and this is also the reason why gambling addiction is quite difficult to overcome, as you said and it is true that usually they treat gambling in an unreasonable way or treat gambling in a way that is different from normal people usually.

With a high level of interest and strong ambition in gambling activities, it is only natural that basically they are even willing to do anything just to gamble, like what you experienced where someone came to your house to sell something they had with the aim of being used as gambling capital and even worse it is very possible for them to try to justify all means just to gamble, or that means doing something out of control such as stealing, smoking, cheating and several other criminal acts in order to get money to gamble when they run out of personal money. Basically, someone who has entered the addiction phase is usually stubborn, they will not listen to any advice from the people around them, all because their level of interest, hope and confidence is very high which is driven by the aim of recovering the situation.
380  Other / Off-topic / Re: Dont chase your loss on: March 30, 2024, 12:32:18 PM
Losing is inevitable and this is something that you should really be accepting and realizing since from the start

Well you all agree right to not chase the loss hahhaha and yeah I bet you guys and me already feel the loss after make another deposit to chase our losing in previous game. The point is if chase your losses you never gonna win  Cheesy because its Un-chase-able make another deposit after losing so much is wrong move because the win after it is very rare and had a razor thin chance so stay in a budget and I think we probably fine.

I think yes we all agree with the idea that chasing victory to return something that has been lost is an action that is not recommended, on the other hand I am not saying that you will not win because maybe luck will come at that time, but we have to understand that the result at the end of gambling has absolutely no certainty whatsoever that guarantees you will win, meaning that the possibility of losing is still very likely to occur which in the end will actually cause you to lose a larger amount.

And also I am sure that when you act to chase victory to restore something that has been lost, then you will definitely gamble with revenge or based on emotions, where as we know, all decisions based on emotions are usually decisions that are not valid. common sense and yes of course with this the possibility of defeat is very likely to occur. Therefore, this is the reason why we are always advised to gamble without placing any hope of winning, because with that I am sure you will only place an amount that you can afford, which means that this situation will not make you too emotional when it turns out you lose.
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