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801  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Risking 1% in Gambling on: February 18, 2024, 04:46:09 AM
~snip~
This 1% guideline does not need to be taken as an absolute rule, this is simply giving a specific value to the common advice that we see on the forum about setting a budget for your gambling activities and stopping once that limit is reached.

After all each person faces different circumstances, so a person could bet way more than that but if they are willing to diminish their expenses in other areas, like video games or streaming apps, they can easily make the difference without affecting their finances.
Yes, I know 1% is not a nominal amount which must be absolute. The most important thing is that they are able to set a nominal limit that is as small as possible from their entire salary and that will not be a problem even though they may enjoy more than 1%. At least they have considered the risk of losing it and that the most important thing is that it doesn't disrupt their financial condition in the future. But they can also be disciplined and set a budget that suits the existing problems and stop when the specified limits are exhausted.

Each person faces different situations, some use more than 1%, some use only 1%, this is not a prohibition as long as they are able to experience gambling losses with 1%, it may not be too risky, but if it is more than that it will pose a risk to the user. Therefore, use your expenses wisely, don't let your finances become unstable and experience problems just because of gambling.

Yes that's right and the bottom line is like you said that the most important and the most advisable thing is to put a small amount that you can afford to lose or you can afford to lose at the end of the session, and I think it's fine if you want to increase the bet amount to more than 1% but try not to exceed 8% - 10% because that's very dangerous over time, and what is needed in this situation is discipline as you mentioned, what I mean is that it is highly recommended for anyone to apply discipline to the amount of budget they put, for example you only put 5% and try to maintain that amount in the long run, do not increase or better yet reduce the percentage to smaller if possible.

In addition, you also need to maintain a conscious understanding of gambling in the sense that you must remain aware that gambling is nothing more than a leisure activity that has no certainty in terms of making money, and this will be very useful to keep you safe in the long run. Yes that's right, there is a difference in every gambler in terms of putting the budget amount, as you said some only put 1% and some more, that's good but as I said above that don't let the increase exceed 10%, that's the most important thing. After all gambling is an activity that should not be taken seriously and therefore it is fine and advisable for anyone to only put small amounts.
802  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: February 17, 2024, 06:05:12 PM
Manchester United will travel to Luton headquarters this week, Manchester United is in a pretty good condition after the previous 3 matches they can win which will be an asset in this match. Luton itself is not a very strong club, they are still in an unsafe zone, yes they are still 1 level from the relegation zone. Manchester United should not have any difficulties in this match considering their opponents who do not have such a good performance. But the problem is that Manchetser United often cannot be predicted at all, sometimes they perform well, sometimes they are ordinary and sometimes they cannot be expected at all.
Erik Ten Hag must prepare this match as well as possible, because it would be a shame if they could not win against a club that was not better than them and even at a bad level of play.
According to United current form, they are supposed to win the match on paper because they won their last three Premier League matches and they will be now be willing to get more points so as to make it to Champions League through top four.
Luton town on the other hand are always hard to win at home, Arsenal, Manchester City, Liverpool and other big teams suffered to get three points at Luton stadium, but I hope United will be able to make today.

Brentford is also a tough opponent for Liverpool, while Arsenal need another win today to show their consistency and title challenge chase.

They should be able to do well, provided they play well too. For the chance to qualify for the Champions League, Manchester United still have that chance, now they are 8 points behind Aston Villa who are ranked 4th, but they still have 1 more match, and if Manchester United can win that match, then their point difference will be reduced to 5 points.
Apart from Aston Villa, they still have 1 competitor who is above them at the moment, namely Tottenham. Tottenham has 47 points and Manchester United has 41 points. Manchester United must focus on themselves to be able to win point by point from the matches they play, while hoping that the clubs above them make mistakes and lose many points.
803  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: February 17, 2024, 05:31:27 PM
A well-deserved result for Inter Milan against an easy opponent like Salernitana, I don't mean to underestimate Salernitana, but we can see for ourselves how they look this season. INter Milan are getting stronger at the top of the standings with this victory, it looks like they will really become Serie A champions this season with a distance that is also far from their main competitors, Juventus.
Oh yes they will soon have a match in the last 16 of the Champions League, their opponent this time is Atletico Madrid. Seeing from the opportunities they have a greater chance than Atletico Madrid it happens because Atletico Madrid itself is still struggling in the domestic league, it's not bad, but not good either. Will Inter Milan be back in the Champions League final like the previous season? worth looking forward to because they are also included in the list of favorite clubs to achieve that.

no of course, no one wants to underestimate the teams
but we have to see things as they are, Salernitana are at the bottom and Inter are at the top of the table, 10 points from second
There must be a reason, in my opinion obviously, maybe then, I repeat, a miracle happens
That's also what I said at the beginning, I will not underestimate a club, but of course we have our own assessment of the club, one of which is by looking at their performance in the competition. And in this case it is very clear that Salernitana are far below INter Milan who are at the top of the table.
There are many things that we will consider in predicting how the match will go. The composition of the players, the way they play, their consistency in each match and many more. But in this match the difference was so stark and you are right only a miracle or luck would have allowed Salernita to steal points from Inter Milan, and that didn't happen at all.
Now I think we'll see Salernitana become the first club to be relegated, although they still have a chance, it's very small.
804  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: February 17, 2024, 05:03:59 PM
Lyon vs Nice two teams came to the field to play today's match. Enjoyed a different match in today's match. I expected Nice team to win this match but Nice team's players could not score any goals for which Nice team lost this match. Lyon team today's match 22  1 goal in the minute to win the match. Maybe the fans of Nice team did not realize that Lyon team will play so well, because of which everyone lost the bet by betting on Nice team.
Nice had to swallow a bitter pill after having to go home empty-handed because they lost to Lyon. I don't know if this is good luck for Lyon or not, because in terms of the game Nice is much better than them. There were a total of 20 attempts made by Nice and 6 of them could lead to the target, but there were no goals they could create. Lyon, on the other hand, were only able to make 9 attempts and only 1 could lead to the target and it could immediately become a goal.
I think Nice were unlucky in this match, which ultimately made them unable to win at least 1 point. This is the situation that occurs in Ligue 1 that we are used to seeing, so that it allows Paris Saint Germain to be comfortably at the top of the standings without a very significant pressure that can be done by other clubs. Week after week goes by and that makes Paris Saint Germain even further away from 2nd place.
805  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: February 17, 2024, 04:41:35 PM
In a few moments, the match between Al Nassr vs Al Fateh will take place. Al Nassr appear as the host in this match and prepare to host Al Fateh and they will not allow AL Fateh to be able to freely steal points from their own headquarters. Al Fateh themselves come in a bad condition, they get unsatisfactory results in the last 5 matches with only 1 victory. On the other hand, Al Nassr they only got 1 defeat which they got against Al Hilal.
Al Nassr's chances of winning the match are very large, they will also play at full strength. But they must prepare their defense in this match, because so far the defense is a weak point that can be exploited by the opponent. And it's possible that Al Fateh can take advantage of that, so they must be careful.
806  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: February 17, 2024, 04:26:24 PM
PSG will probably go for Leao, Lautaro or Osimhen.

There are the 3 players they can fish with a decent amount of money from Serie A

Leao and Lautaro most likely yeah but Osimhem probably no. Osimhem is linked with the other top clubs in EPL as well as some other league but if he choose to sign with PSG then he is going to repeat the same mistake Mbappe did. He is currently 25 years old and going to be on his prime on maybe another 1-2 years so yeah he should be going to some other league instead of Ligue 1

No offense but we all know how good the other leagues are compared to Ligue 1
It's natural when you say that, because I also see that Ligue 1 or Paris Saint Germain have nothing to sell except by luring big money to plyers. I would say the same thing as you, don't take offense to what I say, because of course we have personal opinions when looking at or assessing a club.
Paris Saint Germain will not hesitate to spend big money on the players they want, and we have seen that over the years, especially for the plyer who has caught the eye, Mbappe. Even now, Mbappe's future is still in question, whether he will continue his career at Paris Saint Germain or not, because the last news I heard was that he did not want to extend his contract with Paris Saint Germain.
807  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: February 17, 2024, 03:38:15 PM
If the coach was hired in the middle of the season and failed to sign any player that he wanted, I think that can be a little bit unfair. If anything the next season should be the full test and he will be under insane pressure if he fails to improve anything after he signs some players. On the other hand, the standard for a new and young coach should be different from somebody who has a ton of experience managing a club like Jose. It is hard to draw the line IMO, especially when fans only care about results. At the end of the day, their performance on the pitch needs to improve, regardless of whether they win the game or not.

I a gree with you. Whatever results the team achieves with the new coach, what is most needed is how they can improve their performance and quality. Coaches like De Rossi do not have much experience coaching top European teams. But I think De Rossi could have chemistry with Roma players. I saw that in the previous match they were able to perform quite well even though they lost 2-4 to Inter Milan. The draw result in the first leg can be used as a lesson for the next match in the second leg. Roma are playing as hosts and that will be in their favor. They can learn from draws and develop new and more effective game tactics.
Coming in mid-season and getting high targets is unfair, I agree with that. But the problem is with the club itself, the club doesn't want to know whether the coach enters mid-season or even towards the end of the season they will always want to get and see the best that the coach can offer.
Actually the coach must also have understood something like that, and surely they have agreed on what must be achieved on paper. Evaluation from management will be carried out whether the coach deserves to be retained or fired. But they must consider wisely by looking not at the results, but rather at the process and progress. I think if the coach shows good progress then they deserve to be retained, otherwise if they don't show good progress and even tend to decline, then maybe the management will have another decision.
808  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: While placing bet what comes your mind on: February 17, 2024, 12:57:33 PM
That is how gambling is, as someone is gambling, a thought like this will come to the person's mind. The person will want to increase the money to gamble. Infact, this is one of the main reasons gamblers easy lose money while gambling.

We have always say that gamblers should use little amount of money to gamble and they should not go beyond their gambling budget which should be a very small amount of money to what they re earning.

Yeah increasing  the money might multiple ur earnings sometimes but what comes to my mind other than this is to win,just win so I can get a double of my funds used for it .
A certain time I want to gamble,I invariably use a little amount tho and won at first,was so amazed so instead of collecting my earnings and leave I had it in mind to use my proceeds to stake again,which was a double of what I use to Play but the results this time around was shocking.i lost the entire game and I had to balance up cause my stake was above my expectations.

Do that's it,I took time to assimilate what had happened,my friends that were around were just laughing at me cause I would have just followed up and take my first win and leave but I learnt from it tho.

Yes but the bottom line is "sometimes" means it's not often and it's not easy to get and that means if you try 10x tries with bigger money then the probability of winning is probably only 2 - 3x and that means you're likely to lose the rest of the tries, you can do the math and you can see that the number of losses is much bigger than the wins. I think what you are thinking is that everyone experiences that when they manage to get a win with a small budget then it is a situation that will be very tempting for them to bet a larger amount with the aim and hope of getting a bigger win.

In such a situation of excitement, a gambler will usually ignore the aspect of possible risks and therefore they become brave to increase the amount of bets without any consideration from various sides, and when the session ends then you will find out the real fact that it turns out that what you expected did not happen, and this is the scenario of a gambler doing a lot of actions out of control because their expectations did not come true. Therefore, it is not advisable to bet large amounts regardless of the situation because gambling is an activity that can make it difficult for you to ignore all the temptations that many gamblers end up with addiction because they cannot control themselves when in this situation.
809  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your state on mind if your son stole your money to gamble? on: February 17, 2024, 12:39:43 PM

Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?

Stealing is always stealing, no matter if it is your son or family members, and that should not be tolerated, so it is best to discipline your son or talk to him thoroughly about why it is not good and you are having a hard time earning that money. Though if your son won, then that is another topic because all of us would be happy because that is huge money but still make your son understand that stealing money or getting money without permission is not good.

True, however, theft is a crime or criminal act that should not be allowed because if it is allowed then over time they will get bolder and are very likely to eventually commit bigger acts or mean stealing something bigger which of course has serious repercussions, it is true that no matter who it is whether they are your child or anyone else still punishing and disciplining them is a good idea to make them deterrent. Because the problem is that this jeopardizes their own future when they grow up in the sense that they are very likely to become a thief or a more aggressive criminal, and on the other hand, what if at that time they win using the stolen money? I think I will believe in the idea that the parents will not be angry or even happy because there is an increase in money that occurs as a result of the victory achieved by their children, but it depends on the parents too.
810  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: February 17, 2024, 10:10:48 AM

So far, only Dortmund can provide competition for Bayern Munich, but Dortmund's existence has not been able to stop Bayern from dominating the Bundesliga. This season Bayern have to work hard to reach the top of the standings, the presence of Leverkusen means Bayern is in danger of failing to win a trophy this season. Bayern also lost points when the two teams met, the defeat suffered by Bayern left the two separated by five points. The good performance shown by Leverkusen further strengthens the assumption that they will succeed in becoming new champions in the Bundesliga. If this scenario occurs, Tuchel's future will certainly not be safe with Bayern.

I agree with you. In the last few seasons Dortmund has been able to compete with Munich and several times they have put pressure on Munich. But the problem was that they appeared inconsistent as the season drew to a close and lost several points before Munich finally became champions again. Leverkusen was able to beat Munich and that proved that they deserved to be champions. But the problem is that they have to be consistent for the next few matches because Munich is still very ambitious to catch up on points. Winning 5 points makes Leverkusen's position in first place still unsafe in my opinion.
They were only able to apply pressure or competition, but they were unable to break the dominance that Bayern Munich had over the past decade. This season it is not Borussia Dortmund who can provide that pressure or even be able to stop the dominance of Bayern Munich, but the name Leverkusen appears to be performing very well this season. 2 times their meeting with Bayern Munich this season they can win 4 points, the first meeting they can hold Bayern Munich's draw and in the second meeting they can beat Bayern Munich with a fairly large score too, 3 goals without reply.
I can't say whether they will be able to really stop Bayern Munich's winning record or not, because the journey is still quite long, but for now their chances of being able to do that are very large.
811  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: February 17, 2024, 09:48:03 AM
However real Madrid are currently have 60 points, which puts them ahead ahead of Girona five points. Real Madrid is expected to get more points in their upcoming encounter against Valencia. Despite Valencia's weak performance, I believe Real Madrid will put much a tremendous effort and achieve positive outcomes. My guess is that Real Madrid can absolutely realize their ambitions, they will be the ones to win the La Liga title.
Girona performance is not as consistent as when Barcelona and Atletico Madrid gave Real Madrid competition in the race for trophies. Now Girona is five points behind Real Madrid, maybe this number will increase even more when Girona plays against a stronger team. Real Madrid will continue to try to maintain its position, especially since this season the competition for trophies is not very competitive. The declining performance of Barcelona and Atletico Madrid makes things easier for Real Madrid. Maximum results are always Real Madrid's goal to celebrate their success sooner than expected.
This has been talked about a lot before, even before Girona showed a decline. While it wasn't a significant drop, it was enough to put them further behind Real Madrid. But I still think this is something that is normal, because from the beginning Girona was not a club that was calculated by many people.
I personally will still appreciate them for what they have achieved to date, because it is not easy to compete with the championship subscription club, even they are still better than the 2 clubs that are usually in the top 3, yes at least that's for now. In terms of player composition they also do not have a very luxurious squad, I can say that their squad is ordinary, but with a squad like that they can still compete, that's something very good.
812  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: February 17, 2024, 09:33:55 AM
Manchester United will travel to Luton headquarters this week, Manchester United is in a pretty good condition after the previous 3 matches they can win which will be an asset in this match. Luton itself is not a very strong club, they are still in an unsafe zone, yes they are still 1 level from the relegation zone. Manchester United should not have any difficulties in this match considering their opponents who do not have such a good performance. But the problem is that Manchetser United often cannot be predicted at all, sometimes they perform well, sometimes they are ordinary and sometimes they cannot be expected at all.
Erik Ten Hag must prepare this match as well as possible, because it would be a shame if they could not win against a club that was not better than them and even at a bad level of play.
813  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: February 17, 2024, 09:17:58 AM
as they wanted to demonstrate, Inter Milan practically devastated Salernitana, who tried to resist despite me. he just couldnt do it, this must make it clear that this InterMilan  currently has no competitors in Italy. she will win the championship..
Is so strong.. 4 - 0
A well-deserved result for Inter Milan against an easy opponent like Salernitana, I don't mean to underestimate Salernitana, but we can see for ourselves how they look this season. INter Milan are getting stronger at the top of the standings with this victory, it looks like they will really become Serie A champions this season with a distance that is also far from their main competitors, Juventus.
Oh yes they will soon have a match in the last 16 of the Champions League, their opponent this time is Atletico Madrid. Seeing from the opportunities they have a greater chance than Atletico Madrid it happens because Atletico Madrid itself is still struggling in the domestic league, it's not bad, but not good either. Will Inter Milan be back in the Champions League final like the previous season? worth looking forward to because they are also included in the list of favorite clubs to achieve that.
814  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: February 17, 2024, 07:14:01 AM
For the matches played so far in the round of 16 games of the champions league, the teams that I see them likely to make it out of that stage are Manchester City, Bayern Munich, PSG and Real Madrid. This is irrespective of their results in the first leg because I feel it won’t matter to some of them as they will be able to fight themselves out and make it to the next round of the competition. Amongst these teams, they are all doing great and have experience in the league, so triumphing to the next round of the competition shouldn’t be something hard for them to achieve.

Yes round 16 is a little easier to predict because the strong teams will fight the weaker teams, of these 4 teams only Bayern Munich had to play extra in the second leg because in the first leg they lost 1 goal but of course Bayern Munich's chance to qualify for the next round is greater because playing at home. 4 more matches will be played this week and I see the fight between Inter Milan V Atletico Madrid.

Yeah it is not difficult to predict which teams will qualify  PSG, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and Manchester City will take place in the next round then Dortmund, Arsenal also took place while Napoli vs Barcelona Inter Milan vs Atletico Madrid still cannot be predicted because in my opinion these 2 matches have the same opportunity. For Napoli vs Barcelona it might be a little better for Barcelona because in the first leg they only need a draw then Barcelona will use the match at home I mean in the second leg.
3 of the 4 clubs you mentioned have already won in the first leg and that opens up their chances even more to advance to the next round. Manchester City won convincingly 3-0, Real Madrid won 1-0, Paris Saint Germain won 2-0, while Bayern Munich lost to Lazio.
I personally have doubts about Bayern Munich now, because they have to lose to their opponents, indeed they will play as hosts in the second leg later, but still with an aggregate of 1 goal behind it makes them have to work harder to equalize first.
4 more matches that have not been played in this first leg, one of which is the match between Barcelona vs Napoli, these two clubs both do not look so promising even though overall Barcelona is still better than Napoli.
815  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Escape Debt with Gambling: A Dangerous Cycle on: February 17, 2024, 02:15:57 AM
Hey just be straight with your friend. Let him know messing with online casinos is risky and it could make things worse. Suggest seeking professional advice on handling debts or exploring legal alternatives instead. Gambling might seem like a quick fix but it often ends up causing more trouble. Encourage him to make responsible choices for a better long-term solution

People who cannot bring a rational mindset to gambling often end up with a lot of financial problems, and this is what the person in this case experienced, in the sense that he really did not see gambling from various sides and he only saw gambling in terms of profit, especially about winning but did not think about the negative side which would actually make him fall into the abyss. This is what will happen when you are too focused on winning along with putting hope in it, because instead of getting a win to pay debts but what happens is that you will experience a lot of losses which of course will make the situation worse. Therefore, it is always recommended to apply caution and vigilance along with full awareness when you want to get involved in gambling, lest you take the wrong path that ultimately makes you lost, after all gambling is not a solution to any problem and this really should be considered and applied in mind.
816  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to manage gambling winnings on: February 17, 2024, 01:33:31 AM
Good and accurate understanding will lead us on a good path. In gambling, good understanding will be very useful for us so that we don't gamble continuously and prevent us from becoming addicted to gambling. It is true that if we are experiencing difficulties regarding the finances we use in gambling, we should immediately think logically and correctly that gambling is not a place to make money, and immediately think about getting out of there.

Yes of course everything will be directed if we understand what we are doing, what I mean is that when you understand what you are doing then you will definitely do something that is normal and recommended which also leads to something that will not have too much significant impact, I will not say that having the right understanding on gambling is the best decision for your life because obviously if you want the best then the answer is "don't gamble at all", and what I mean is that you must have the right understanding if you want to engage in this activity because this is the only option that is best so that we don't experience many problems as a result.

On the other hand why having a correct understanding and having a rational point of view on gambling is recommended because it is by doing so that you will really know the real facts about what gambling is, most people misunderstand what is meant by "winning chances", They think that it is an opportunity to get a lot of money but on the other hand they don't pay much attention to the possible risks which is what is more likely and more often happens, so don't be easily fooled by what the casino provides, they provide winning opportunities to lure more people to get involved and when you misunderstand the winning opportunities then obviously you will become a victim by losing a lot.
Understanding gambling emphasizes its risks, not normalizes it. Yes, understanding is important, but the best option is to abstain. The temptation of winning chances is a deception aimed to catch the naive

Your point about proper comprehension is strong, but it doesnt cover gambling's whole impact. Every gamble tears at society's fiber, not just individual issues. Casinos sell aspirations wrapped in lacquered illusions, not opportunity. Recognizing this is wise and necessary to avoid the deception of easy money. Gambling is loss disguised as opportunity

True, understanding gambling is the same as you focus on the possible risks involved in gambling, however, this is what should be paid more attention to and not be ignored, the reason is because your victory always depends on how lucky you are at the time of running the session, while on the other hand you will never know when that luck will come, so focusing on the possible risks along with applying a lot of caution and vigilance is the recommended approach, this will be able to make you achieve balance in the sense that you will not experience too serious problems in terms of losing.

We have to go back and study what we mean by "odds" because this is an element that has no certainty and means nothing more than a "possibility", it could happen and it could not. Honestly, I'm not going to blame the casinos for the fraudulent notion of odds, but it's the gamblers who neglect to understand what they mean by odds, so they basically take the "odds" as something that "just happens" and this is the kind of negligence that gets you into a myriad of real-life financial trouble. On the other hand, your point is also true in this regard, but perhaps let's relate that the opportunities provided by casinos make most gamblers have aspirations that are motivated by various temptations that look tempting so that this is the impetus that makes them even more excessive.
817  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What contributes to a casual gambler becoming an addicted gambler? on: February 17, 2024, 01:13:33 AM

And your answer is summarized in the last pound, "an excuse" I think that's enough.
But if logic is correct, anything can be a reason why ordinary gamblers transition into addicted gamblers, I will add a point that I often find in my environment, namely the "influence of the environment" invitation of friends, seeing friends gamble on an ongoing basis, seeing friends get a big win so that it attracts us to play and continue to play gambling, there is a sense of competitiveness that arises to be able to beat the winnings that his friend gets, such as wanting to be arrogant to his gambling friend.

Yes, all the lists that are displayed can indeed be simplified or summarized as reasons that encourage gamblers to act crazier which in the end all these actions do not even lead to something they want such as making money but instead make them enter the addiction phase which of course they even suffer the amount of loss. And yes on the other hand what you said is true about environmental factors which is clear that in any case the environment does have a big influence on everyone, especially on behavior change, But on the other hand maybe this is also quite dependent on each of us if for example you do reject some invitations from friends who like to gamble then obviously you can avoid the name of addiction but if you are influenced unconsciously in the sense that you don't really find out about what gambling really is and then you even start trying to play without knowing any of the dangers then obviously a high probability of addiction will occur, especially as you said if they see the victory that some of their friends managed to achieve then obviously it is like a motivation for them to be even more excessive.
If we look at it from the point of view of each person, I myself will not debate it because it all depends on each person, that sentence is clear in any discussion, but if we look in terms of factor X (which affects) and factor Y (which is affected). of course we will get a lot of elements that can be considered why someone can do that (addiction).

To be honest you are doing a reaffirmation of what I said, thank you because everything seems much clearer about the arguments I made about the reasons that can make someone experience addiction.

Yes because what I mean above is that when someone has the firmness in themselves not to follow or not get carried away with what their friends are doing in their environment then I think it is still quite unlikely that they will eventually get involved in gambling activities, especially if they already know the bad effects along with emphasizing to themselves that they will never want to gamble, unless there is coercion or even threats from people who influence them then obviously there is a high possibility that they will get involved in that activity.

Honestly, because I have a friend in my neighborhood who never wants and is never interested in the gambling that I do, even though most of us are gamblers but he is not at all interested or even tempted when he sees me or my other friends winning. And on the other hand we have agreed that the conclusion to this problem depends on each individual, on the other hand yes it doesn't matter buddy because completing an idea or argument to clarify and direct it in more detail is the obligation of those of us who are here so that there are no misunderstandings and so that people including those here can see from various sides about all possibilities.
818  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: February 16, 2024, 06:17:45 PM
This mtch was interesting because both clubs showed a balanced performance in my opinion, and both clubs even dared to appear more open and didn't just play waiting and being careful. Galatasaray was quite lucky because they managed to secure victory in the final minutes with 1 goal that they managed to score. Actually, I was quite worried when they got a red card in the 62nd minute, and it was proven that they immediately conceded a goal 3 minutes later. However, their opponents also received a red card which made the match return to a draw.
Galatasaray is not yet in a completely safe condition, because in the second meeting they will appear as the visiting team, and clearly that is an advantage for Sparta Prague. I wonder if they will perform like this or more to secure the advantage they have in this match, but that is quite risky too because with the pressure they will continue to receive, it is feared that there will be a gap open.

Both teams performed very well in this match. Both played to win. I agree with you that Galatasaray were very lucky in this match. This is why the team managed to secure 3 points.

After Vector Nlsson received a red card in the 62nd minute I thought galatasaray would not win the match. The team conceded a goal in the 65th minute. However, in the 80th minute, Sparta Prague's player Rynes got a red card to equalize the match. And Galatasaray was very lucky. After 90 minutes, the team took a 3-2 lead in the match by scoring in injury time. It is expected that the match of the second leg will be as exciting. Because both groups are almost equally strong.
Yes, I also hope for an interesting match in their second meeting, because even though Galatasaray has the advantage, this match will be played at Sparta Prague's headquarters. In this match alone they were able to provide tough resistance to Galatasaray, this was a signal for Galatarasay that Sparta might appear more attacking when playing at their own base.
I am very sure that Sparta will go all out, as will Galatasaray. But the question lies with Galatasaray, will they play like this and play openly or will they try to secure their lead more, as I said before.
There are many considerations that they have to make which are definitely with the aim of minimizing the risk for them in the second meeting.
819  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: February 16, 2024, 04:54:35 PM
Comparing the two clubs that will meet, it is clear that Bremen will show something beter than Koln. Focusing on Klon, last season they managed to finish in 11th place in the standings, even in the previous 2 saesons they were able to compete and managed to occupy 7th place at the end of the competition. This season I see them being the same as the 2020/2021 season, yes they have a bad perfrmance and that means they have to struggle to survive in the Bundesliga and must first get through the play-off round.
This match will be very important for Koln, because winning will maintain their hopes of being able to keep their distance from the clubs above them. whereas if they lose, it will make them even worse and it is not impossible that they will have to be in the bottom 2 positions if they continue to lose. They have to work hard to achieve positive results in this mtch.

Köln are 5 points behind place 15, where Union Berlin currently are . This means that Köln must win at least 2 games and Union Berlin must lose twice. Union Berlin will play against Hoffenheim. I do not even know if the coach of Union Berlin is still suspended. But either way it will not be easy against Hoffenheim. Although they have been waiting for a win for a long time, they are not to be underestimated. But Hoffenheim have to win again. Otherwise the discussion about sacking the coach will come up again.
Well, Union Berlin also has a tough match against Hoffenheim, they will most likely lose, although they might also get points. Therefore, this is an opportunity for Koln, at least Koln must first secure victory, regardless of whether Union Berlin can win or not, that is another matter, what is clear is that Koln must achieve good results in this match.
5 points is not too far away, especially as Union Berlin itself has a performance that is still not that good. There is definitely pressure, it is something that cannot be avoided, but they must be able to turn that pressure into great motivation for them. The league is still running, as long as it is running, opportunities are still open. I say this not only to Koln, but to all the clubs that are competing, including Koln.
820  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: February 16, 2024, 04:33:08 PM
Barcelona this season cannot be expected to be in the Champions League, they have repeatedly shown something that is not good. Yes, they have felt this problem for a long time, especially when they started to falter in their finances. Now in the Champions League maybe they will be able to go further and get past the round of 16, but after that I increasingly doubt they will be able to get through round after round well.
Napoli this season has declined very much after they managed to become champions last season. A balanced match considering the performance of these two clubs, although personally I still see Barcelona as better than Napoli. The 2 matches between them will be very decisive, and maybe they will beat each other when they play as hosts, either Barcelona or Napoli.
If in the end the two teams beat each other in two legs then that will definitely result in a lot of goals being scored. It is impossible for there to be only one goal or two goals and both teams will compete with each other to beat the aggregate if they want to qualify. But it doesn't rule out the possibility that in the end both teams will have to go through a penalty shootout to determine their qualification for the next round.

But it is true that the two teams are almost no different, both Barcelona and Napoli are still down with inconsistency results obtained in the domestic league and it is very difficult to bet on the winner. I wouldn't expect more from Barcelona and vice versa for Napoli, regardless of their current situation, they actually won't be able to face their next opponent. Well, it's only the best for these two teams and whoever wins or passes, they should only be able to give a minimum performance.
Maybe their target, both Barcelona and Napoli, is not to be eliminated in this round, because as I said before, in front of them they will definitely face tougher opponents, although we don't know who yet, but if you look at the list of clubs in this round of 16 , it is clear they will face a better prepared opponent. Yes, you are right, it is possible that they will compete with each other to determine who will advance to the next round via penalty shootout.
Barcelona have missed many things, usually they are one of the favorites in the Champions League, but that is not the case this season. Even though some people might consider them, in terms of percentage their chances of becoming champions are below other big clubs who have much better performances, one of which is their rival from La Liga, Real Madrid. Just looking at La Liga now, Real Madrid is not under strong pressure from Barcelona.
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