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1381  Economy / Economics / Re: Does halving really create deflation? on: December 07, 2019, 08:57:03 AM
hey guys, i'm quite serious on this topic because of the confusing people when talking about Bitcoin "deflation". As far as I understand, the deflation is that goods are cheaper than they are on time or because there is no need to buy goods or the supply of money gets lower.
So for Bitcoin, why is there a deflation? Although I know that miners will find it harder to mine bitcoins after every Halving event, the value of our goods stays the same and is based on fiat money. Bitcoin's price is still being manipulated and it is not necessarily a strong growth after halving. or the best example is Litecoin. after halving, its price is halved instead of rising higher.
So, the question is, does the Halving event actually cause deflation, or is it just some bullshit theory?
Ps: I highly appreciate the comments with sincere contributions. Thanks
Maybe yes halving really create deflation for bitcoin and altcoin price, you can ready now for investing with bitcoin and altcoin depend which one do you want because after close with halving all crypto price become fantastic with higher price, maybe you can hold now for your assets and re investing again to get much profit and chance never come twice in your investing.

It would never be worthless as we push our desires for holding huge amount of crypto, because after halving more opportunities will start to change our views for finances. When investing, there's always ups and downs as part of the journey that we follow. Deflation takes place after several fluctuations roll over, beyond our control and we need to be optimistic on that point.
1382  Economy / Economics / Re: Fiat Vs Cryptocurrency, which would you choose? on: December 07, 2019, 02:18:16 AM
I will not be choosing these two since I am using these for a long time now. We can't solely depend on crypto currencies since there are still a lot of people that do not want to use it or don't know what it is. You can trade crypto currencies and to get out your profit, you convert it to fiat and use it.
cryptocurrency and fiat currencies have a special bond, for now users of crypto currencies must also be required to make it fiat out of necessity,
if you have to choose it seems difficult for now

While there's no implemented regulation on which currencies will be widely used on digital transactions, I will still prefer using cryptocurrency on that particular matters. However, fiat cannot be removed from our system because this was traditionally used as mode of payment by many people. We can't easily take that our from our current economy. Generally crypto and fiat these days, is still worth on both reasons.
1383  Economy / Speculation / Re: Question for the Speculators... (experiment) on: December 07, 2019, 01:34:23 AM
There was a great thread started back then by one pretty famous trader with a trading game. Many high caliber people started to play around and most of them lost more than the guys just hodling bitcoin. Only one trader came out a bit on top of the hodler.

Will try to find the thread !

They lost a lot because of aggressiveness and always took advantage of the current wave without analysing. Basically that's their mindset, only to earn quick profit and not long term plans. Holders allocated more days, months or even years to grow and increase the value of an asset before deciding to sell it. Speculations can influence a lot of people, that's why we need to avoid taking it seriously, in order to sustain until market fully recovers.
1384  Local / Pamilihan / Re: BTSE Philippines on: December 06, 2019, 10:42:17 PM
Inaanyayahan ko po kayong lahat na sumali sa BTSE Philippines.  Ang BTSE ay digital assets trading platform.

BTSE UAE ay licensed ng Department of Economic Development, Government of Dubai at regulated ng Bangko Sentral ng United Arab Emirates (UAE).

Website: https://www.btse.com/

Maraming salamat sa inyong pagsuporta.


Akala ko may standalone website designed for PH kasi tinawag na BTSE PH.

Sabihin na lang natin na supported ng site ang PH country at nagkaroon ng local group.

Di ko nakita sa FAQ, pero currently ano ang mga supported deposit and withdrawal methods dito sa atin?


Sa BTSE Marketplace pwede kang magdeposit, medyo may kamahalan nga lang. 5k USD minimum to 100k USD. At need magpa-KYC kapag nagdeposit ng fiat.
Supported nila: USD, EUR, GPB, HKD, SGD, CNY, JPY, AED, CAD.

Kapag crypto nmn, hindi na kailangan magpa-KYC. Kaya dun nlng muna ako. Pwede ka deposit ng crypto tulad ng BTC, ETH, USDT, LTC, TUSD, USDC, XMR.


Parang hindi pasado sa karamihan dito, ang hinahanap namin ay yung mas maganda pa sa coins.ph dahil kung crypto trading lang naman, meron naman tayong Binance na mas maraming tokens and coins and much more liquid din and take note, the minimum withdraw and deposit is very small and you can trade without KYC.

Mukhang mahirap yan kung may kyc sa pag trade lalo na bagong exchange yan at hindi pa kilala. Kung maihahambing mo yan sa Binance, ay parang malayo malayo ang agwat kung titingnan. Para sa akin kung sa pinas man lang din, eh may coinspro naman na partner ng coins.ph at hindi pa mahirap mag trade. Tsaka kung may mga altcoins ako ay sa Binance doon ako mas kampante, kasi makapag trade ka ng walang hassle at hindi sila strict sa kyc.
1385  Local / Pamilihan / Re: [GAME CONTEST]--💰🎁PREDICTION PRICE OF BTC in Q4🎁💰-- on: December 06, 2019, 08:38:07 PM
We're almost there, ilang araw nalang malalaman na natin kung sino ang lucky winner.
Hohoho, pero mahaba pa ang araw kabayan, although malinaw na wala na tayong maaasahang bullish market ayos pa rin kung maging stable ang value as long as na hindi babalik ng 3k katulad last year.
Medyo magandang senyales din ito for I know 2020 will be the year of Bull of Bulls (Oct 2020)
Mukhang yung prediction mo boss ang pinakamalapit ah wag lang biglang pump or dump Im sure ikaw ang mapalad na mananalo halos malapit na tayo sa middle month at laging nasa $7k+ pa den naglalaro ang presyo sa tingin ko kasi malabo ang ang $10k+ dito although hindi pa rin natin masasabi kasi nsa crypto tayo in just a day pwedeng magbago ang lahat.
Wag mun nating batiin igan, mahaba pa ang panahon at madami pa ang pwede mangyari, pero expect ko bababa pa ito ng 6k...

Kung bababa it sa 6k, diba dapat nung nakaraang araw pa? Eh paakyat na ito kamakailan lang tol. Tingin ko aabot ito sa $10k before magpasko, at yung sabi dito sa discussion na magiging $14k ay case to case basis nalang yun pag may biglaang pump sa mga susunod na araw.
Dapat wag muna tayong masyadong excited, at kung mangyari man ang ating mga predictions pagdating ng tamang oras sigurado naman bagsak din agad dahil sa maraming baguhan na trader.
1386  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How long do you hold on a trade. on: December 05, 2019, 11:22:39 AM
trading has been a difficult process for novices and minor traders. it could be tempting most times if you dont understand the market movement and TA. you might loose patience and cancel out a trade you might regret later. i have cancel out many trades that later ended up in huge profits. i have also cancel some successfully. i just curious to know if there is any sure way to this trading were by you hold on a trade.
To stay up in a trade the for most thing that you need to have is a trading plan which is set for your trades and with that your emotions will be lessen even if your trades goes against with your position. That's the only way i think to stay up in a trade stick to your plan and of course have your iwn risk management for much better results or possible outcone of a trade.


What about if our trading can be done rushly, and we can't even find time to secure some trading plans? Does it apply to have an impromptu actions which can be a good alternative, just to set a goal on trading? Of course it can be done successfully if you're doing it according to fundamentals that you have. If you find more interesting thing in a certain trading, then it wouldn't be so hard for you on how long will you be trading for good.
1387  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Dump - The Worst Thing on: December 05, 2019, 07:41:19 AM
I have never worried and panicked if the price of bitcoin is dumped, because as we know bitcoin is the most powerful cryptocurrency.
So how much does the price go down, it won't be long to go back up. So the safest investment is to buy bitcoin, when talking about
altcoins we also already know altcoins price movements following the bitcoin price movements. So from that if bitcoin prices go down,
altcoins prices will also go down. Likewise if bitcoin prices go up, altcoins prices also go up. Just how do we take the opportunity to get
down bitcoin and altcoins as an opportunity to buy at cheap prices.

It's our assurance to grab the best opportunities while seeing those promising coins dumped lately. Don't waste this chances, because you might be frustrated if you won't hold on with your asset. Some people didn't value the things that might affect their decisions, but I am confident as time goes on the trend will be reversed.
1388  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Uri ng wallets , gaanu sila ka safe on: December 04, 2019, 10:15:02 PM
Sa nabanggit mo online wallet like coins.ph at ledger wallet mostly ang nagamit ko na which is safe for me. Sa paper wallet never ko pa natry gamitin. Ang importante talaga ay kailangan ingatan natin ang wallet natin kung saan nakastore ang btc lalo na sa ngayon madaming issue sa hacking.

Para sa akin ok na ang coins.ph pang btc storing kasi legit sya at naka basi ito sa ating bansa. Ewan ko lang sa ibang exchange site gaya ng binance, kahit legit ito iba parin pag sariling atin. Sa mga tokens at coins naman bukod kay bitcoin mas kampante na ako kay metamask wallet, dahil safe talaga ito na storage sa ating yaman kahit na ang value neto ay kakarampot sa panahon ngayon.
1389  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: December 04, 2019, 01:18:28 PM
Dirk have what he needs for supporting teammates kaya din nakakuha sya ng ring dapat ganun din ang gawin ng Mavs kay Luka mga supporting cast na mabibigat din at makakatulong nya sa pagtataguyod ng team nila.

Iyong mga napunta sa Dallas na kasama ni Dirk is di rin mabibigat kung iconsider nung panahon na iyon. Nagampanan lang nila ng maayos ang role nila sa team kaya ngayong panahon natawag na natin silang mabigat. Pero that time wala nag-eexpect sa kanila.

Ngayon, malay natin iyong mga kasama ni Luka is maging ganyan din. No need na kumuha ng Mavericks ng isa pang superstar. Tama na iyong setup nila ngayon puro role players gaya nung nagchampion sila. Saka nung 2006 first time nila sa Finals si Dirk lang ang superstar doon.

Role players > Superstars Smiley

Agree, Dallas now are like the old Dallas that are really playing well as a team.
Though doncic gets most of the point but his teammates are comfortable with that because they look very synchronize when they play, in short they know their individual role and they play it properly.

here's the current power ranking in the NBA now, and Luka's team is still part of it.

NBA Power Rankings Week 7: Luka Doncic's heroics lead to a new No. 1; and watch out for the champs
Luka is building the good chemistry and what we see is the results of trusting his teammates, they are all enjoying and they are all participating and trying to bring their share to the team. Luka is doing well as he's teammates are following him and supporting him with the types of game he wanted them to play together. It's still too early and a lots of things can happen along the way.

Good thing with Luka and his relationship with his teammates, and I am eyeing him a good outcome that will be showing us in the future of his career. The best that I seen with him, is that he still used to be a humble person and his sportsmanship continues to build up as he grows more mature with basketball. When there's a support coming from your team, I think it's a healthy ways of dealing with sports along with your physical well being.
1390  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin halving 2020 prediction on: December 04, 2019, 12:44:15 PM
Too many six-digit predictions. Too many one million predictions. Too many theories pointing that bitcoin will repeat the previous cycle. But the previous cycle didnt repeat the cycle before it.

I believe we are still to see the shaking that happened in the second half of 2015. Contrary to what I believed before, the cycle is stretched, not shrunk. 2011-2013 was two years, 2013-2017 was four years. Who knows, maybe this cycle will have six years.

I believe Masterluc prediction is on point. We are going to see $1000-$1200 after the halving, and the next ATH will only happen in 2021. A bull market like 2017 will only happen in 2023.
youre right on that , and there are known people who just predicted bitcoin price going to skyrocket but the question is if they knew bitcoin will reach thier prediction why they arent buying? Why bitcoin price drops instead of going up because of thier predictions.

That is the point actually. And the reason is that those predictions are not guarantees. As long as something is called as a prediction more so coming from anyone just like you and me then there is a big probability that it might not be coming true at all. That is the reality we have to face. Here in the world of Bitcoin and cryptocurrency because of the volatile nature of the assets people have become speculators and as extension are more to be predicting of what can be. These should not be taken seriously maybe we can just look at these predictions to be entertainment just like going to a fortune-teller.

If that fortune gathers good results, I believed that was destined to happen. Just like what happened from year of bullish market in 2017, that wasn't predicted and yet it proved it's reality. The upcoming years would be so unpredictable, we didn't know when it would be or 2020 might be the perfect year or not? That remains a big questions for all of us and we can't find someone who can provide us more accurate answers by now due to uncertainty of the market situation.
1391  Economy / Speculation / Re: Could Bitcoin increase as in 2017? on: December 04, 2019, 11:35:11 AM
We will see the same kind of % in price rise as seen in late 2017 but it won’t be until possibly 2021, the reduced supply of coins on the market due to the halving in May 2020 will take some time to take effect.

Hopefully this situation will not be bearish just like what is happening several months until December. We seem to experience more dipping of bitcoin price together with other promising alts in the market. The halving influenced a lot of variations, which contributes to the unpredictable market price.
1392  Local / Pamilihan / Re: ♛♛♛NBA Prediction Tournament [0.027BTC Prize Pool]♛♛♛ on: December 04, 2019, 10:54:58 AM
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1394  Economy / Speculation / Re: Two & Four Year MA's Claim It's Time To Accumulate Bitcoin on: December 03, 2019, 11:36:51 AM
It’s always time to accumulate crypto my friend.

Buy MOAR !!!!

True story, but usually in bear markets I prefer to accumulate Satoshis by shorting obvious patterns, as it's much more profitable for stacking sats, and Bitcoin's price movements are so predictable and repetitive it's embarrassing Tongue For reference sake, this is my first long call this year, even if I'm still in a short Grin

You're not all alone being short by now mate, also me and other traders find it so hard to sustain with our holdings. It feels like kinda boring and hopeless, but I do stick with my principles and never lose grip on it. Right now, even how embarrassing it was I would still have to be strong and hopeful that this struggles will end someday and brings us fortunate days.
1395  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bizarre crash! What cause bitcoin crash?? on: December 02, 2019, 10:22:53 PM
Its second major crash in 3 days going below $7000. What you guys think what cause bitcoin crash because i think uncertainty  of market makes bitcoin crash. I think many of investors should holding there coins and hoping for the best because bitcoin is a fighter and somehow manage to came back at number 1. What you guys thinking about this?
I am a little confused and ambiguous with what you mean, however low the current price of bitcoin will not shift its trading volume below other altcoins. 
So bitcoin remains number 1, by volume and capital is the biggest among other altcoins.
This is a long term fluctuations that initiates more influence worldwide, somehow this is the best opportunities for eah and everyone. Although that remained number one, we still have to more careful on our decisions as well. Other altcoins will still follow what the market changes are, most importantly you're holding still until the perfect time comes for our asset to mature at higher pumps.
1396  Local / Altcoins (Pilipinas) / Re: Altcoins- kita o lugi? on: December 02, 2019, 01:21:52 PM
Kung susumahin, nasa 100k na din siguro yung kinita ko sa altcoins. Hindi naman kasi ganun kalaki yung funds na meron ako. Sa ngayon, bumaba yung presyo ng mga holdings ko pero hindi ko pa naman ito kinoconsider na lugi dahil marami pang pwedeng mangyari. Sana lang dumating pa ulit yung alt season para magkaroon tayo ng magandang kita kagaya noong 2017.
Pansin ko lang mostly ng kumita sa cryptocurrency during nung nagbull run ay halos hundred thousands pesos o higit pa siguro dahil kakaunti lang ang coin na hawak natin noon pero kung marami rami at kung nabenta natin ito sa mataas na presyo doon tayo kikta ng malaki kaso hindi nangyari iyon dahil hindi natin inasahan na ganoon ang mangyayari.


Nung time kasi na yon marami talaga ang mga opportunidad, kunti lang nagbbounty, maraming bounties, maraming new project, talagang kumikita ang mga investors, kaya posible talagang ang kita mo ay umabot sa hundred thousands lalo na sa bounties, may time nga na ang airdrop is super worth it talaga, naka experience ako ng airdrop pero umabot to ng $100+ kaya super sulit airdrops din nun, kabi kabila pa ang airdrops.
Nakita ko nga rin na malaki ang bigayan sa bounties noong nagbull run pero nawala din ito noong nawala ang bull run at bumaba ang crypto coins. Kaya marami ang nakakuha ng malalaking halaga ng bounty pero ako sa trading at sa ibang way ko na nakuha yung mga earnings ko at I thinl less than 30 percent for that is earning through campaign.
Ganyan talaga yan pag may bull run marami talaga sa atin kikita nito. At lalo ng may naka hold pa tayo na mga altcoins na may future talaga siguro kikita talaga tayo ng malaki non. If kung ito man ay magbalik ulit Im sure marami sa atin magbebenta at kikita na naman ng malaki sa crypto. Na experience ko kasi yan dati noong 2017 graveh talaga ang pag angat ng mga presyo noon.
Sana nga dumating na ang ating hinihintay na bullrun, kaso tingin ko parang nag alinlangan pa yata ito kung kelan ba dapat. Mga dalawant taon simula ng bumagsak ng malaki ang crypto, kaya tuloy marami ang napasubo sa bull trap noong nakaraang ilang buwan. Sa bagay karamihan naman sa napaasa ay kadalasan baguhan lang. Kung ang mga sinasabi na kapareho ng pattern ito sa last bullrun, eh wag masyadong magpaniwala dahil mas mabuti yung walang masyadong iisipin kung sakali hindi man matuloy eh hindi masakit isipin.
1397  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: December 02, 2019, 12:24:34 PM
Who's watching NBA today? Especially Los Angeles Lakers - Dallas Mavericks? Ganda ng laban. Dikit ang laban nung first half kaso tinambakan na ng Mavs ang Lakers nung 3rd Quarter. Sana makahabol pa ang Lakers para mas maging interesado yung game. You can watch it in the link below.  Wink

Side note: I have no bet in this game. Just genuinely enjoying these 2 teams fight each other.

Code: (NBA STREAM)
http://www.worldcupfootball.me/nba/0021900287/h
Di ko inexpect yung laba nila kanina sobrang ganda ng laban talaga, At hindi ko inaakala na matatalo ang lakers sa homecourt pa nila. Graveh naman kasi pinakita na galing ng dallas lalo na si luka sobrang galing talaga niya maglaro. Ill think he deserve to become a All start in this regular season, Siguro matutuloy yan maging isa siya sa allstar choices.
Kung tuloy lang ang ganitong performance ni Lika sigurado na sa All Star. Di lang pang All Star kundi candidate for MVP pa. Sa ngayon leading sa stats sina Giannis, Luka at Harden. Iba rin talaga si Luka, lalo second year pa lang siya sa NBA at 20 years old pa.

Isa yan sa inaabangan kong player mature na mature na sa laruan parang hindi lang pangalawang taon nya sa basketball e sayang lang na hindi tumagal ang tandem nila ni Dirk at hoping na maging loyal na player din si Luka like what dirk did before pero kung pakakawalan sya ng management wala siyang magagawa.

Sayang naman kung bibitawan sya ng team nyang kasalukuyan, dahil magaling talaga si Luka. Pero wala pa namang malinaw na desisyon kung talagang lilipat na talaga sya, nasa kanya na yung kung sa tingin nya mas matimbang ang puso nya sa ibang team na kukuha sa kanya. Madiskarte sya sa laro, kaya hindi malabo na maganda ang kanyang contribution doon sa mapupuntahan nyang bagong management.
1398  Local / Altcoins (Pilipinas) / Re: Altcoins movement?! on: December 01, 2019, 10:35:58 PM
Same hindi na din ako kumikita ng malaki not like before, Lahat ng hinohold ko ngayon ay major crypto and hindi naman ako nag eexpect ng malakihang pump pero bumababa talaga ang market value nila, So ang ginagawa ko sa mga medyo nag dump na altcoins is hold lang, I don't really want to sell them kasi major altcoins naman sila and malaki padin ang chance na tumaas sila once nag pump na din ang bitcoin. Kapit lang talaga ngayon.
Buti nga kabayan kung major altcoins ang hawak pero mas problema magbenta ngayon ng mga tokens from previous ICO's circa 2017-18 majority talaga walang buhay. No choice kundi habaan ang pasensya at maghintay ng milagro, pero atleast yung ibang projects nagbibigay ng mga kunting updates nagpapahiwatig na buhay parin sila sa kabila ng napakahabang bear market.

Meron pa kayang pag asa ang mga walang buhay na tokens na yan? Palagay ko sa tuwing titingnan ko ito sa exchange halos lahat bagsak at walang gaanong bumibili. Humihina na ang demand neto sa merkado, at parang mahirap itong umangat sa ngayon.
Malala talaga ang epekto ng bear market, kaya hinihintay ko lang ang anunsyo sa ibang projects kung saan ako nabibilang.
1399  Local / Pamilihan / Re: What is etoro? on: December 01, 2019, 08:45:10 AM
Well, maganda gamitin ang e-toro kasi kahit bagohan pwedi kang makapag-trade gamit ang copy-paste feature mula sa expert traders history nila. Pero iwan kong expert nga ba sila pagdating sa trading. Sa pagkakaalam ko wala namang expert pagdating sa trading na yan. Isa ito sa paraan nila ang pagkakaroon ng copy-paste feature sa platform nila para maging attractive sa mga newbies na nais sumobok.
Indeed, para sa dagdag kaalaman at wala sa OP thread basahin niyo nalang ang FAQ nila. https://www.etoro.com/trading/crypto-faq/. Maliban diyan maganda ang security measures nila.

Hindi pa ako naka subok mag trade dyan sa etoro, di ko kasi gaanong kabisado ang kanilang exchange. Kahit na nakikita at nababasa ko ang mga post neto sa social media, di parin ako naging interesado. Siguro kung meron akong mga token na ma listed doon, posibleng mag register ako sa exchange na ito. Sana magandang simula ito sa pagdating ng panahon.
1400  Economy / Speculation / Re: Btc Price is Not showing, Missleading news and hype on: November 30, 2019, 02:07:11 PM
This is a speculative asset, so obviously there are entities from behind who will do things to manipulate the market and they uses media to spread their intention, whether positive or negative. As for the price, it only shows how much people are willing to buy and sell, which is the trading rule. Again, when we have this kind of market which is free, lots of things can happen which we really don't or can't see, like OTC trading with huge amounts of money involved. Or maybe some whales have the intention to spread fake news to down the market, this is how everything works.
The dirty tactics is always trying to upheld once there's a good news coming, and these fud makers will always spread negative stories just to bring bitcoin down. Hype will be happening anytime, and when bitcoin price initiates a good trend, there it goes fake news will   start to create shout outs to the main stream media. Unfortunately more holders and traders will be driven out, and will be panicked.
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