По поводу летчиков, мне интересно по какой причине Украина последовательно не размещает ПВО на линии соприкосновения? Мне кажется, разовая потеря пяти-десяти самолетов РФ - носителей авиабомб с умпк оказалась бы слишком болезненной для России. Ну, как минимум это обсуждалось бы на их ТВ-шоу, в которых спикером выступал бы пресловутый неудачник-Соловьев. Представляете имиджевый удар?  Так пробовали и неоднократно - в неё сразу прилетает ланцет. Помню был период расхуярили подряд пару комплексов с300 и охранявших их Гепардов, это и отбило у Украины всё желание размещать системы ПВО ближе 70-ти километров к линии фронта. Всё мечтаешь нанести по России имиджевый удар? Чёкак там в Авдеевке, Мариупольские флэшбеки ещё не начались?  Слушай борода, давно хотел поинтересоваться. Ты я смотрю в англоветке сидишь, как настроения там вообще, меняются ли они со временем? Настроения меняются, если вкратце года за полтора стрелка провернулась примерно на 180 градусов. Вскоре после начала СВО поддержка Украины в англоязе была упорото-лютой, а вера в военную победу над Россией непоколебимой и почти что безусловной. Сейчас несколько кастрюлеголовых время от времени ещё чего-то пишут, но теперь они всё больше в роли клоунов, которых никто всерьёз особо уже не воспринимает. |
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По поводу летчиков, мне интересно по какой причине Украина последовательно не размещает ПВО на линии соприкосновения? Мне кажется, разовая потеря пяти-десяти самолетов РФ - носителей авиабомб с умпк оказалась бы слишком болезненной для России. Ну, как минимум это обсуждалось бы на их ТВ-шоу, в которых спикером выступал бы пресловутый неудачник-Соловьев. Представляете имиджевый удар? Так пробовали и неоднократно - в неё сразу прилетает ланцет. Помню был период расхуярили подряд пару комплексов с300 и охранявших их Гепардов, это и отбило у Украины всё желание размещать системы ПВО ближе 70-ти километров к линии фронта. Всё мечтаешь нанести по России имиджевый удар? Чёкак там в Авдеевке, Мариупольские флэшбеки ещё не начались? |
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Если будут аргументированные возражения, то с удовольствием выслушаю.
А вот давай я тебе лучше анекдот расскажу. Два русских танкиста сидят в парижском кафе, пьют кофе с круассаном вприкуску, рядом "припаркована" колонна российских танков. Мимо идут армейские обозы. Один танкист говорит другому:
- Об одном сожалею - информационную войну мы всё же проиграли. |
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There is definitely something happening neat the dnipro. I mean something that is not Ruzzis shelling a hospital and randomly killing civilians.
Yes...Ukraine is bringing light infantry over, without artillery and tank support, and Russians are massacring them Gallipoli style Quote of the day: John Kirby: “You can't start planning for long-term support if you're at the end of your rope. And in financing Ukraine we are coming to the end of the rope. Today we announced $200 million and we will continue to help Ukraine as much as we can, but it won’t be indefinitely.” Sure... that must be it. Nothing to worry about then. Oh... yes please, just place your hopes in the rope not being long enough and on Kirby saying the truth instead of something politically convenient. This is a list of people that were also counting on the US an NATO running out of rope. Somehow it turned out that the rope was long long long... and enough to hang them all. Are you implying that Kirby lied? These are damn hard times for Ukraine, Congress voted for a temporary budget to avoid a shutdown, the Senate supported it, which means Biden will sign it too. Now the next moment when it will be possible to even simply raise the issue of allocating US money to Ukraine will come no earlier than in two months. Meanwhile, Russia entered Avdeevka from the north and south simultaneously. Are you still concerned about the situation near the Dnieper? |
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It seems that Ruzzia is set on Avdiivka at no matter the cost. I guess they believe that if they ignore the dnipro problem hard enough it may go away?
Yep. Taking Avdiivka is not a high priority from a military point of view, but it is important from a political point of view as part of the creation of a security buffer to prevent regular shelling of Donetsk from cannon artillery. Therefore, the pressure on Avdiivka will continue, and now the situation there for Ukraine is worse than it was in Bakhmut, the pincers on the flanks are tightening and the only supply road to Avdiivka is under tight fire control. I already said earlier, I think Avdeevka will be taken or end up in a cauldron before the New Year. As for the Dnieper problem, it exists mainly in your imagination. The Ukrainian contingent on the left bank of the Dnieper does not exceed a couple of hundred people in number and without armored vehicles. Russian military officers have already nicknamed this situation “a shooting gallery in Krynki”; yesterday heavy flamethrower systems were fired at Krynki, and artillery and bomb strikes are also being carried out continuously. Activity on the left bank of the Dnieper is not a problem for Russia; rather, it is a problem for Ukraine. |
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You're right. If this article contains at least half the truth (and it was essentially written by Zelensky’s court journalist, who is inclined to smooth out corners and embellish reality) - Ukraine is absolutely fucked, and Russia’s capture of Kiev is only a matter of time.
LOL, here we go again with wet dream about taking Kyiv  With such kind of articles it seems that someone is trying to destabilize situation inside Ukraine that heads of country of army would start to look for enemies among each other. And again we see attempts to push idea of peace talks with Russia. There is also talks that Ukraine should hold president elections next year in war conditions and seems that Arestovich already started his elections campaign. Fact that less US people support sending weapons to Ukraine is normal thing IMO. War is going one for more than 1.5 years and people got war fatigue, what is probably normal reaction, especially when you're thousands km from frontline and when war in Israel is getting more attention is Western edia now. Glad you're having fun. In the article by Simon Schuster, Zelensky is presented as an inadequate madman, divorced from reality, who imagines himself to be a messiah who must save Europe and the whole world from the Russian threat. It kind of reminds me of Hitler in the bunker, giving orders to his now defunct troops as the Russians approach Berlin. In the context of Zaluzhny’s interview, who admitted the failure of the counter-offensive and the lack of understanding of how to win this conflict, all this looks very shitty for Ukraine. |
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Just wow, think this is by far the most damning article I've read (exactly when i was expecting the opposite, some typical rosy propaganda). It'd be hard to imagine even gloomier outlook. 59% of Americans are against sending more weapons to Ukraine and increasing fast, Ukraine is out of options but Zelensky is delusional and feels betrayed by "West". US acts dumb and asks Ukraine what will happen if they'll stop providing aid., Ukraine was giving their lives for US money, but that's not enough now. Military commanders are refusing even direct orders by the president, there's not enough weapons, but even if by some miracle UA gets more weapons there's just not enough soldiers to man them, recruitment nearly ground to a halt, US is using corruption in UA to shift the blame and now just directly tells UA who to fire. Feeling the end is near, government officials are stealing like there's no tomorrow (which for them there might not be). On top of all that UA is also now loosing media war with headlines dominated by middle east. Thus now Ukraine aid doesn't stand a chance in Washington  You're right. If this article contains at least half the truth (and it was essentially written by Zelensky’s court journalist, who is inclined to smooth out corners and embellish reality) - Ukraine is absolutely fucked, and Russia’s capture of Kiev is only a matter of time. Update from the dnipro banks: it seems that there is certainly a mid-sized operation ongoing to cross the dniper in several points. Nothing to be scared of, just adjusting ownership of a few square kilometers of land, very close to Crimea and not covered by the so called "Surovikin line". It must be going well for Ukraine, because the local military chief psycho has been replaced with another psycho. The cannot fire the team, so they fire the coach.
You have been consistently pushing this fantastic story of Ukraine crossing the Dnieper for several months now, apparently trying to achieve some kind of reaction. Well, you achieved it, here it is - Ukraine’s crossing of the Dnieper is a pathetic media attempt to sweeten the bitter pill of disappointment from a failed counter-offensive and nothing more. There is no meaningful reason or technical feasibility to undertake any large-scale efforts to cross the Dnieper. Stop fantasizing about this topic, this is just the usual petty fuss of sabotage and reconnaissance groups. I hope that on your part this is just a ridiculous attempt to distract the audience’s attention from really important and key areas. Because if you are sincere and this is truly your best hope for success, then your despair is even deeper than the current situation in Ukraine really deserves. Oh, sure, if your narrative about the article is right the Ruzzians will be in Kiev in three days. Again. And then they will do a few gestures of goodwill, and then reduce the "scope",... sure we know the drill. I am not trying to get any reaction on the dnipro crossing, I am just stating that there is Ukranian activity in the East bank and there is video footage of fight, shelling and the usual things that happen when people cannot reach a peaceful agreement on what belongs to who. If you think it is not important, then it is not important. Nothing to worry about. Of course there is nothing to worry about here. I think Ukraine has more than enough logistical problems with supplying its troops in Kupyansk, Seversk, Avdeevka and Rabotino to add logistical problems with supplying any large-scale group in the Kherson region on the left bank of the Dnieper. |
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Also, body doubles don't have the same intelligence as the people they look like. That's why they are only good for performing stunts in movies. I think this is the key point. Putin regularly makes various statements in public, gives interviews, holds personal meetings, and writes articles. Some of his performances last more than four hours at a time. I don’t care how many doubles Putin has or whether they exist at all, as long as his teleprompter and speechwriter are of sound mind and sober memory. More worrying should be in the United States, whose president can't always seem to remember his own name until he reads it on a cue card. |
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Just wow, think this is by far the most damning article I've read (exactly when i was expecting the opposite, some typical rosy propaganda). It'd be hard to imagine even gloomier outlook. 59% of Americans are against sending more weapons to Ukraine and increasing fast, Ukraine is out of options but Zelensky is delusional and feels betrayed by "West". US acts dumb and asks Ukraine what will happen if they'll stop providing aid., Ukraine was giving their lives for US money, but that's not enough now. Military commanders are refusing even direct orders by the president, there's not enough weapons, but even if by some miracle UA gets more weapons there's just not enough soldiers to man them, recruitment nearly ground to a halt, US is using corruption in UA to shift the blame and now just directly tells UA who to fire. Feeling the end is near, government officials are stealing like there's no tomorrow (which for them there might not be). On top of all that UA is also now loosing media war with headlines dominated by middle east. Thus now Ukraine aid doesn't stand a chance in Washington You're right. If this article contains at least half the truth (and it was essentially written by Zelensky’s court journalist, who is inclined to smooth out corners and embellish reality) - Ukraine is absolutely fucked, and Russia’s capture of Kiev is only a matter of time. Update from the dnipro banks: it seems that there is certainly a mid-sized operation ongoing to cross the dniper in several points. Nothing to be scared of, just adjusting ownership of a few square kilometers of land, very close to Crimea and not covered by the so called "Surovikin line". It must be going well for Ukraine, because the local military chief psycho has been replaced with another psycho. The cannot fire the team, so they fire the coach.
You have been consistently pushing this fantastic story of Ukraine crossing the Dnieper for several months now, apparently trying to achieve some kind of reaction. Well, you achieved it, here it is - Ukraine’s crossing of the Dnieper is a pathetic media attempt to sweeten the bitter pill of disappointment from a failed counter-offensive and nothing more. There is no meaningful reason or technical feasibility to undertake any large-scale efforts to cross the Dnieper. Stop fantasizing about this topic, this is just the usual petty fuss of sabotage and reconnaissance groups. I hope that on your part this is just a ridiculous attempt to distract the audience’s attention from really important and key areas. Because if you are sincere and this is truly your best hope for success, then your despair is even deeper than the current situation in Ukraine really deserves. |
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ок, Россия действительно ударила своими ракетами по хозблокам Хмельницкой АЭС. Ты вообще понимаешь, что ты блядь несешь? Упреждающий удар? И типа вас теперь по вашей логике по головке поглалят ваши хозяева в Европе или США, где ваши жены и детки? Нет ты не угадал. Даже наркомана-Орбана перестанут кормить наркотиками. Все нахуй. Марафон окончен. По хуеблокам, хуле ты опять заистерил то? Прилетело аккуратно и точно в 47-й арсенал в селе Цветоха, это примерно в 20-ти километрах от Хмельницкой АЭС. Ёбнуло так, что на станции аж окна повылетали. |
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По платным VPN, разговор особый, я давно хочу набросать парочку - троечку вариантов, тоже их обсудить, пока руки не доходят.
Ну, хорошо. Бесплатные вырубаются почти что пачками. Моды прекращают работать все быстрее и быстрее. А вот что с платными, это интересно конечно. Теоретически не должны допускать обломов. Но, например, кто то выше писал про surfshark. Вроде бы с ним тоже проблемы. ? А раньше считался хорошим.  В принципе, это касается любого платного и уж тем более бесплатного впн сервиса. Ну, а если нужен стабильный впн, то следует арендовать vps и запустить собственный vpn. Лично мне уже надоело постоянно бегать от одного впн-сервиса к другому, поэтому я уже окончательно перешел на свой vpn и пока все работает отлично. Единственное, если планируете арендовать vps, то не стоит пользовать услугами тех провайдеров, которые зарегистрированы в рф, поскольку с 1 декабря начнет действовать закон об обязательной идентификации клиентов таких хостинг-провайдеров, а ркн будет вести соответствующий реестр. Именно так. Концептуально правильный алгоритм действий примерно такой: аренда виртуального сервера в достаточно лояльной юрисдикции (например в Нидерландах) с оплатой в биткоинах, затем на нём поднимается какой-нибудь дистрибутив линукс (например Дебиан), затем на нём разворачивается какой-нибудь ВПН (например который умеет маскироваться под обычный https). После этого любой провайдерский DPI нервно сосёт хуй. И да, это всегда будет легально, потому что обходить блокировки "это не запрещено". Ну и об отношении к блокиовкам красноречиво свидетельствует факт, о котором я постоянно твержу: власти сами охотно пользуются впнами. К примеру, Песков, которого ловили на этом и который забавно заявлял, что «это не запрещено». Или сами функционеры РКН. Поэтому это отчасти спектакль, конечно. Втихушку для властей будут давать инструменты для обхода, а там они и для нас просочатся.
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This is what the Ruzzies see when near the Terrycon. Anyone fancy going with them on a "storming operation"??
The main striking force near Avdeevka are former prisoners from the Storm Z assault detachments of the Ministry of Defense. Nobody asks them what they want, they are given an order and they carry it out. Ukraine's deployment of 31 and 47 mechanized brigades to defend Avdiivka indicates two things: the situation there for Ukraine is close to critical and the Ukrainian counter-offensive has truly ended. In that we can agree: many of the individuals in the units are given orders that are simply obscene - there is no way to carry them out, it is simple suicide. It is normal in any army to follow orders - that's how armies work in general - the difference is what orders are being given, what are the chances of success and how risky the operation is. The incompetence of the leaders is shown in the type of orders given. BTW it seems that from WW II tactics, now Ruzzia has passed to WW I meat attacks tactics and lately to Medieval siege techniques by digging tunnels under fortifications. What is next? Using swords? Russia uses the tactics that work and bring success. The situation in Avdiivka now is in many ways similar to the situation in Bakhmut, and it will end in much the same way. Ukraine tried to adopt this tactic of meat assaults in the summer during its counter-offensive in the Zaporozhye direction, but failed because it did not have all the components necessary for success. A few more of this "successes" and there will be no army left to celebrate the great "victory". There is a price to pay for advancing - which by the way has not been consolidated nor is something that could be called a "success" - when that price is as high as what is being grinded now in the east front, it is simply not worth it. It is a a good way of "self-demilitarisation". In the end you may say that Ruzzi soldiers are expendable and do not matter, you just send in more. But that logic failed in WW I and is likely to fail against modern means of destruction which chop meat at speed - no matter if 10, 100 or 1000, it just grind whatever is thrown at it. We'll see. You are in vain to draw parallels with the First World War; now the stormtroopers of the Storm Z detachments have powerful support in the form of airstrikes with gliding bombs, FPV-drones and air-guided artillery. I think Avdiivka will be taken by the end of this year and this will be another crushing blow to the morale of Ukraine, following Mariupol and Bakhmut. ps The Russian flag over the Avdeevsky Terrycon. |
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This is what the Ruzzies see when near the Terrycon. Anyone fancy going with them on a "storming operation"??
The main striking force near Avdeevka are former prisoners from the Storm Z assault detachments of the Ministry of Defense. Nobody asks them what they want, they are given an order and they carry it out. Ukraine's deployment of 31 and 47 mechanized brigades to defend Avdiivka indicates two things: the situation there for Ukraine is close to critical and the Ukrainian counter-offensive has truly ended. In that we can agree: many of the individuals in the units are given orders that are simply obscene - there is no way to carry them out, it is simple suicide. It is normal in any army to follow orders - that's how armies work in general - the difference is what orders are being given, what are the chances of success and how risky the operation is. The incompetence of the leaders is shown in the type of orders given. BTW it seems that from WW II tactics, now Ruzzia has passed to WW I meat attacks tactics and lately to Medieval siege techniques by digging tunnels under fortifications. What is next? Using swords? Russia uses the tactics that work and bring success. The situation in Avdiivka now is in many ways similar to the situation in Bakhmut, and it will end in much the same way. Ukraine tried to adopt this tactic of meat assaults in the summer during its counter-offensive in the Zaporozhye direction, but failed because it did not have all the components necessary for success. |
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This is what the Ruzzies see when near the Terrycon. Anyone fancy going with them on a "storming operation"??  The main striking force near Avdeevka are former prisoners from the Storm Z assault detachments of the Ministry of Defense. Nobody asks them what they want, they are given an order and they carry it out. Ukraine's deployment of 31 and 47 mechanized brigades to defend Avdiivka indicates two things: the situation there for Ukraine is close to critical and the Ukrainian counter-offensive has truly ended. |
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Factually wrong information. Firstly, the US has a permanent stock of military supplies in Israel. The reason is that if a war with Iran, Siria, Egypt or others breaks out, it is difficult to send immediate support from across two seas to Israel. US simply has opened the gates and pass the bill.
The United States cannot now pass a single bill due to the absence of the speaker of the lower house of Congress. It is the speaker of the lower house of Congress who puts laws on the agenda for consideration; in fact, he has the right of veto, like the president. After McCarthy's resignation, all legislative activity in the United States was paralyzed. Fully incorrect. There is a temporary speaker https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67161430, the legislative process is not interrupted in any way and the funny thing is that since this guy is temporary, they cannot remove him as easily as an elected one. Mr Buck argued there is nothing preventing the Speaker pro tempore from performing normal legislative duties, like recognising members for motions to propose legislation. If Mr McHenry began to do that, he wrote, it would be up to House members to object or come up with an alternative plan. Now, try again, but this time read some credible sources first. You are lying, wishful thinking. The acting speaker of the lower house of the US Congress does not have the authority to introduce new bills for consideration; now the House of Representatives can only consider bills previously put forward for consideration and all legislative activity in the United States is paralyzed. Actually, the article at your link suggests one of the options for solving this problem - giving the acting speaker the necessary powers. Just read the links and care to read the news from more than one source. do you really think that US support for Israel is going to be stopped by a technicality? Well, if that goes ahead, Ukraine help , debt ceiling, border security and many others go in the package. I think that the lower house of the US Congress will not be able to consider Biden's proposed $100 billion aid bill for Ukraine and Israel until it elects a speaker who can introduce this bill for consideration. Because these are the rules of the House of Representatives of the US Congress, regardless of your ideas about what it should be like in an ideal fictional world. Stop fantasizing and wishful thinking. |
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Factually wrong information. Firstly, the US has a permanent stock of military supplies in Israel. The reason is that if a war with Iran, Siria, Egypt or others breaks out, it is difficult to send immediate support from across two seas to Israel. US simply has opened the gates and pass the bill.
The United States cannot now pass a single bill due to the absence of the speaker of the lower house of Congress. It is the speaker of the lower house of Congress who puts laws on the agenda for consideration; in fact, he has the right of veto, like the president. After McCarthy's resignation, all legislative activity in the United States was paralyzed. Fully incorrect. There is a temporary speaker https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67161430, the legislative process is not interrupted in any way and the funny thing is that since this guy is temporary, they cannot remove him as easily as an elected one. Mr Buck argued there is nothing preventing the Speaker pro tempore from performing normal legislative duties, like recognising members for motions to propose legislation. If Mr McHenry began to do that, he wrote, it would be up to House members to object or come up with an alternative plan. Now, try again, but this time read some credible sources first. You are lying, wishful thinking. The acting speaker of the lower house of the US Congress does not have the authority to introduce new bills for consideration; now the House of Representatives can only consider bills previously put forward for consideration and all legislative activity in the United States is paralyzed. Actually, the article at your link suggests one of the options for solving this problem - giving the acting speaker the necessary powers. |
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Factually wrong information. Firstly, the US has a permanent stock of military supplies in Israel. The reason is that if a war with Iran, Siria, Egypt or others breaks out, it is difficult to send immediate support from across two seas to Israel. US simply has opened the gates and pass the bill.
The United States cannot now pass a single bill due to the absence of the speaker of the lower house of Congress. It is the speaker of the lower house of Congress who puts laws on the agenda for consideration; in fact, he has the right of veto, like the president. After McCarthy's resignation, all legislative activity in the United States was paralyzed. |
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. Про Ф16 смешно гы-гы, учитывая что даже сам и украинцы планируют их использовать как тактическое ПРО,
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так это же устаревшая информация. Вероятно и у них инерция имеется А чё изменилось то, чтобы эта информация устарела? Игнат вон уже в аренду собрался брать системы ПВО, бгг. Щас у Украины две огромные головные боли (ну кроме паузы в поддержке США разумеется) - геометрический рост атак БПЛА разных типов (начиная от ФПВ-дронов типа Упырей, через модернизированные Ланцеты и до Гераней), и старые добрые фугасные авиабомбы с модулями УМПК, которые с самого начала их применения так и не научились сбивать. От дронов Ф16 конечно не помогут, но есть вероятность что бомбить управляемыми авиабомбами с появлением у Украины американских истребителей станут поменьше. Сейчас прифронтовую полосу бомбят вообще без сопротивления, потому что никаких средств ПВО бдостаточно близко к фронту кроме ручных ПЗРК у Украины нету. Как только подтягивают что-нибудь ближе 70 км к линии соприкосновения - в неё сразу же прилетает Ланцет. Тебе уже пора начинать переобуваться в прыжке, ты поставил не на ту лошадь. И не будет никаких поставок шахедов россии оттуда.
Вот чего я действительно не понимаю - почему Украина с упорством достойным гораздо лучшего применения продолжает называть Герани Шахидами. В Татарстане их собирают, давно уже. Уже несколько раз модернизировали, в частности снизили шумность двигателя, а на ГЛОНАСС их ещё раньше переделали. Иранского там давно ничего нету, кроме центральной идеи. |
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Ну блять, начинается очередной хохляцкий дроч на очередную вундервафлю. Что, скальпы и шторм шадоу уже до целей не долетают? Ну порадуйся хуле, новую игрушку выдали - будет летать какое-то время до очередной перепрошивки Панцирей и Буков. Так же как все предыдущие новые вундервафли до этого. И что будет клянчить Зеленский после ATACMS?
да ясно что будет клянчить - ф16. Презентация в Газе прошла или идет, даже не интересно уже (они же с бомбами в комплекте идут надеюсь? бггг...) Да хватит бомбить жопой соберись я сегодня прочитал что вна есть дохуя то ли ми24 то ли су24 (не разбираюсь) - а они оказывается могут нести твои скальпы/штормы... Как же вы такое проебали-то? Дождались пока вна создадут лучшую в мире ПРО если антибанановую еврейскую не считать А и еще. Мне понравилась пауза. Кароч, когда евреи разбомбили полосы в аэродромах Ирана, неделю "шахедами" не бомбили Украину. Совпадение? Что думаешь? То есть на этот-то вопрос ты упрлномочен отвечать если не уполномочен про Авдеевку, хуй с ней отставить? (а, все, вижу) На вопрос про Авдеевку ответил в соседней теме. Про Ф16 смешно гы-гы, учитывая что даже сам и украинцы планируют их использовать как тактическое ПРО, потому что наземных средств ПРО драматично не хватает. А вот знаешь почему Шольц упёрся рогом в землю и не даёт таурусы даже в экспортном исполнении с ограничителем дальности на 300км? Да потому что после передачи этих ракет Украине они через три недели потеряют боевую эффективность, так же как до этого уже сдулись Химарсы, Скальпы и Шторм Шадоусы. И на каждое новое расширение номенклатуры средств поражения российские ПРО реагируют всё быстрее и быстрее. Химарсы дольше были эффективными, чем Шторм Шадоу и Скальпы. Германия просто не хочет тратить свой ракетный козырь на двухнедельную эйфорию в укропабликах. |
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