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May 21, 2015, 06:57:09 PM
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BADecker, you are the dumbest person I've met in my life, and that's saying something. I really hope you're trolling and don't actually believe the crap that you type...I really do.

There you go again, with the character assassination theme. You don't have a real answer, so you go and use character assassination.

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As I said before. You prefer to believe in a book without any evidence put into it to back up it's statements, rather than things that have been peer reviewed and tested by researches all over the world. In fact, go become a archaeologist and you can do these things yourself, such as finding out the age of rocks and plants, etc.


The whole point is that you believe in something purely from faith, which requires no evidence and are things only fools do. You do not use reason. It's like you're walking around life with your eyes closed, even though you have the chance to open them up. If you believe in god, believe in said god from logic and reason.

If you are talking about the Bible, the reports in the Bible are eye witness reports. The strong tradition of the whole nation of Israel says that the reports are true. And if you knew anything about the fastidiousness of Israel, you would see that their traditions are nothing to sneeze at. In addition, there is much science and prophesy in the Bible that has been proven true. You need to look into it a bit before you make goofy claims.

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Have you ever heard of that game where the teacher says something to one person the class, and by the time whatever was said reaches everyone in the class, it's something totally different from what the teacher originally said? That's what the bible is.

Show me some science the bible has in it. So called Prophecy can be found in any book, even Dr Seus, it's a technique where a computer collects words on a page and creates "prophetic statements" out of the text. Don't get fooled kiddo.

Except that Isaiah in the Dead Sea Scrolls is very similar to the current Isaiah. So things haven't changed in the Bible.

Smiley

I could also say my nextdoor neighbor named Moses, is very similar to Moses from the bible... Your statement means absolutely nothing.

Wow! You have a neighbor who is like 3,500 years old? Do you think he is telling the truth? Usually the women want to go the other direction... younger rather than older.

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I'm 26,000 years old.  A few posts up, you mentioned that nobody was around 25,000 years ago to verify things.

Well, I'm telling you I'm 26,000 years old.  What now?  Surely you wouldn't rely on evidence to suggest I might actually be in my 20's or 30's, would you?

Well, if you are saying this like it is a reality, then I would have to respond that you are a liar, the part about you being 26,000 years old, that is.

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So, then, how would you devise a method to determine that I am in fact a liar and biblical claims of a 6,000 year old Earth are not lies?

You call me a liar, I call them a liar...same thing.  What now?
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May 21, 2015, 09:11:05 PM
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Aubrey de Grey




[...]

To achieve longevity, de Grey is developing a therapy to kill cells that have lost the ability to divide, allowing healthy cells to multiply and replenish the tissue.

“The therapies that we are working on at the moment are not going to be perfect,” he said.

“These therapies are going to be good enough to take middle age people, say people aged 60, and rejuvenate them thoroughly enough so they won’t be biologically 60 again until they are chronologically 90.

“That means we have essentially bought 30 years of time to figure out how to re-rejuvenate them when they are chronologically 90 so they won’t be biologically 60 for a third time until they are 120 or 150.

“I believe that 30 years is going to be very easily enough time to do that.”

Mr de Grey explained his technique for achieving eternal youthfulness is far more likely to be developed before the theories explored by other gerontologist that focus on preventing the metabolism from causing damage to the body.

“We will be able to keep one step ahead of the problem and keep rejuvenating the same people as long as we like,” he said
“The big breakthrough in terms of publicity will be when we can take middle aged mice in the laboratory and rejuvenate them.

“Once we can do it for mice, people are going to know that it’s only a matter of time before we can do it for human beings.
“So that’s where I want to get to and I think we have a fair chance of getting there in six to eight years from now.”


http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/researchers-believe-a-biological-revolution-enabling-humans-to-experience-everlasting-youthfulness-is-coming/story-fnpjxnqt-1227304902553






Imagine how bad the overpopulation problem will be when people can live that long?   Seriously, the earth only contains enough resources for so many people.   By trying to keep people alive we will be doing the opposite. 

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Aubrey de Grey

[...]

To achieve longevity, de Grey is developing a therapy to kill cells that have lost the ability to divide, allowing healthy cells to multiply and replenish the tissue.

“The therapies that we are working on at the moment are not going to be perfect,” he said.

“These therapies are going to be good enough to take middle age people, say people aged 60, and rejuvenate them thoroughly enough so they won’t be biologically 60 again until they are chronologically 90.

“That means we have essentially bought 30 years of time to figure out how to re-rejuvenate them when they are chronologically 90 so they won’t be biologically 60 for a third time until they are 120 or 150.

“I believe that 30 years is going to be very easily enough time to do that.”

Mr de Grey explained his technique for achieving eternal youthfulness is far more likely to be developed before the theories explored by other gerontologist that focus on preventing the metabolism from causing damage to the body.

“We will be able to keep one step ahead of the problem and keep rejuvenating the same people as long as we like,” he said
“The big breakthrough in terms of publicity will be when we can take middle aged mice in the laboratory and rejuvenate them.

“Once we can do it for mice, people are going to know that it’s only a matter of time before we can do it for human beings.
“So that’s where I want to get to and I think we have a fair chance of getting there in six to eight years from now.”


http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/researchers-believe-a-biological-revolution-enabling-humans-to-experience-everlasting-youthfulness-is-coming/story-fnpjxnqt-1227304902553


Imagine how bad the overpopulation problem will be when people can live that long?   Seriously, the earth only contains enough resources for so many people.   By trying to keep people alive we will be doing the opposite.  

With these breakthrews and many more coming just around the corner, firstly they will only be for the super rich to begin with but if we have rapid space developments, hopefully this helps push mankind into the galaxy and ensure we survive as a species because if we don't it doesn't matter how long we could potentially live if we are all dead threw self destruction.

They would like you to believe there is only enough resources for so many people when the truth is as always very different, the tech that is coming and has already come secretly would enable us to all live happily if we never destroy ourselves. As it stands though we are all slaves to the 'enough resources'.

PS count me out of this living passed where I am destined to live am happy growing old and dying like many before me, this is life.


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May 22, 2015, 12:34:37 AM
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BADecker, you are the dumbest person I've met in my life, and that's saying something. I really hope you're trolling and don't actually believe the crap that you type...I really do.

There you go again, with the character assassination theme. You don't have a real answer, so you go and use character assassination.

Smiley

As I said before. You prefer to believe in a book without any evidence put into it to back up it's statements, rather than things that have been peer reviewed and tested by researches all over the world. In fact, go become a archaeologist and you can do these things yourself, such as finding out the age of rocks and plants, etc.


The whole point is that you believe in something purely from faith, which requires no evidence and are things only fools do. You do not use reason. It's like you're walking around life with your eyes closed, even though you have the chance to open them up. If you believe in god, believe in said god from logic and reason.

If you are talking about the Bible, the reports in the Bible are eye witness reports. The strong tradition of the whole nation of Israel says that the reports are true. And if you knew anything about the fastidiousness of Israel, you would see that their traditions are nothing to sneeze at. In addition, there is much science and prophesy in the Bible that has been proven true. You need to look into it a bit before you make goofy claims.

Smiley

Have you ever heard of that game where the teacher says something to one person the class, and by the time whatever was said reaches everyone in the class, it's something totally different from what the teacher originally said? That's what the bible is.

Show me some science the bible has in it. So called Prophecy can be found in any book, even Dr Seus, it's a technique where a computer collects words on a page and creates "prophetic statements" out of the text. Don't get fooled kiddo.

Except that Isaiah in the Dead Sea Scrolls is very similar to the current Isaiah. So things haven't changed in the Bible.

Smiley

I could also say my nextdoor neighbor named Moses, is very similar to Moses from the bible... Your statement means absolutely nothing.

Wow! You have a neighbor who is like 3,500 years old? Do you think he is telling the truth? Usually the women want to go the other direction... younger rather than older.

Smiley

I'm 26,000 years old.  A few posts up, you mentioned that nobody was around 25,000 years ago to verify things.

Well, I'm telling you I'm 26,000 years old.  What now?  Surely you wouldn't rely on evidence to suggest I might actually be in my 20's or 30's, would you?

Well, if you are saying this like it is a reality, then I would have to respond that you are a liar, the part about you being 26,000 years old, that is.

Smiley

So, then, how would you devise a method to determine that I am in fact a liar and biblical claims of a 6,000 year old Earth are not lies?

You call me a liar, I call them a liar...same thing.  What now?

In court trials, witnesses call each other liars at times. People call each other liars all over the place.

What now? Do the thing that you are best at doing... the logic of the scientific method. The scientific method really only produces the answers that we see right now. Ideas and theories are just that. Ideas and theories.

Forget prophesying the actual age of the universe. Focus on the things that are practical... so that we can actually find the ways to become healthy enough to live in pleasantness and health for 1,000 years.

Smiley

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