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May 27, 2015, 08:35:08 PM
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May 27, 2015, 09:26:46 PM
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i dont like the tax system. but its somehow a help for the government when used properly. they finance many educational sectors with the tax but they also finance wars and warfares which are unnecessary. if everybody stopped paying tax, the money would not cycle properly. BUT if there were no tax, people would be more at ease in their spending

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May 28, 2015, 05:44:28 AM
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The power to tax is the power to destroy. I think income tax and property tax are just wrong. What do you think?

I think, being part of a community puts certain responsibilities on the 'participants' of the community, and since we as a members of a society have repeatedly failed to think beyond our personal propaganda you have to be 'taxed' to maintain your ecosystem.
Thoughts?

That's right.
But, how does one become part of a community?
How close do you have to live to another person to become part of a community with him?
If a group of people form a community, how close do you have to live to them before you become part of their community?
If the people say that anyone living within x miles of a certain point are part of their community, what gives them the right?
If people say that they are going to tax all people living inside certain borders, what gives them the right?

Somebody said might makes right. Might might make what exists, but why does it make it right?

If someone is tricked into signing a compact to pay taxes, especially when he doesn't realize that he signed such, or what it is he signed, is that right?
So, what are the terms of the community?

Community stuff, and taxation stuff, is simply people stating what will be done to other people (and maybe themselves so that things look good). That is a form of slavery.

Show exactly where the tax money of any individual person went, and the receipt for the exact benefit any individual received for the money he paid in taxes. You can't. It was pooled. And the funds went to pay for all kinds of stuff that any particular individual would say is wrong, all because somebody else decided that he had to pay taxes, and decided the way they were to be spent. That is a form of slavery.

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You see the definition of right and wrong is highly relative. Tax isn't a gift bestowed upon mankind or an evil or a form of slavery as you aptly suggest. It's somewhere in between, things involving the welfare of humankind brings about a lot of grey areas. It's not black or white or right and wrong. There's a lot of grey.
About defining a community, the world is vast. And a community is defined as a small population sharing something in common. Since there are millions of people, it's impossible for all of humanity to have a similar outlook on everything and here comes the role of community heads or governments. All, I'm trying to say is, think of it as the cost of being able to live harmoniously with people around you.
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May 28, 2015, 05:54:03 AM
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The power to tax is the power to destroy. I think income tax and property tax are just wrong. What do you think?

Tax is okay. Its the people who hold them are not cool.

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May 28, 2015, 05:54:40 AM
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The power to tax is the power to destroy. I think income tax and property tax are just wrong. What do you think?

I think, being part of a community puts certain responsibilities on the 'participants' of the community, and since we as a members of a society have repeatedly failed to think beyond our personal propaganda you have to be 'taxed' to maintain your ecosystem.
Thoughts?

That's right.
But, how does one become part of a community?
How close do you have to live to another person to become part of a community with him?
If a group of people form a community, how close do you have to live to them before you become part of their community?
If the people say that anyone living within x miles of a certain point are part of their community, what gives them the right?
If people say that they are going to tax all people living inside certain borders, what gives them the right?

Somebody said might makes right. Might might make what exists, but why does it make it right?

If someone is tricked into signing a compact to pay taxes, especially when he doesn't realize that he signed such, or what it is he signed, is that right?
So, what are the terms of the community?

Community stuff, and taxation stuff, is simply people stating what will be done to other people (and maybe themselves so that things look good). That is a form of slavery.

Show exactly where the tax money of any individual person went, and the receipt for the exact benefit any individual received for the money he paid in taxes. You can't. It was pooled. And the funds went to pay for all kinds of stuff that any particular individual would say is wrong, all because somebody else decided that he had to pay taxes, and decided the way they were to be spent. That is a form of slavery.

Smiley
You see the definition of right and wrong is highly relative. Tax isn't a gift bestowed upon mankind or an evil or a form of slavery as you aptly suggest. It's somewhere in between, things involving the welfare of humankind brings about a lot of grey areas. It's not black or white or right and wrong. There's a lot of grey.
About defining a community, the world is vast. And a community is defined as a small population sharing something in common. Since there are millions of people, it's impossible for all of humanity to have a similar outlook on everything and here comes the role of community heads or governments. All, I'm trying to say is, think of it as the cost of being able to live harmoniously with people around you.

Now you are talking a protection racket.

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May 28, 2015, 11:13:11 AM
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The masses at some level correctly realize that without some intervention wealth progressively concentrates in a few hands at the top of the pyramid/food chain/bankers of the world.
Without some form of redistribution this concentration results in all economic/political power concentrated in a few hands (another type of slavery at least for the average joe).
One could argue we are pretty close to this already. Income tax's are tolerated/supported by the populace because they are seen as needed redistribution.





The populace is stupid.  Those wealthy few write the rules such that whatever taxes they do pay is countered by political favoritism that more than pays for itself.
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May 29, 2015, 11:19:15 AM
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The power to tax is the power to destroy. I think income tax and property tax are just wrong. What do you think?

I'm also thinks so. But any state needs taxes. You need taxes in order to get police working. And many other goverment services and organizations also. Do you have a way to make it work without taxes?

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