How high is the probability of accusations vs. casinos in BitcoinTalk are true?

[EarnOnVictor]

It helps further if either side or both of them could show proof to back up their claims, but sadly at times, since casinos have the system and have locked the accounts of the customers, they have little to back their claims up and I don't see how that is their fault.

That's how it is, and also a player can't be taking screenshots every time he plays to see if he's going to get scammed, those are things that are already in the casino, I'm sure that each casino has the history and even video of how things really were, and that's what should be presented, because it's difficult for both, for the casino and for the player, I think that if it were done that way there would be a lot of transparency, that each game Session could be recorded for both.

Turns out you cant always count on a casino's records to tell the whole truth.  I mean, sure, theyll show some stuff that happened, but we gotta remember they might skew things to protect themselves when needed.  Casinos dont wanna look shady, right?  So if something weird went down, dont be shocked if the logs somehow dance around it. 

Cant say I blame them - bad publicity kills profits - but still, take their records with a grain of salt.  They hhave an interest in protecting their reputation and avoiding negative publicity.

You have a good point, I only wish casinos could be fair to their customers and not be selfish for the money they want to gain in excess. Have you ever seen casinos locking the accounts without money? Don't they catch such accounts of wrongdoings, if at all?

To buttress your point, they can't blatantly cheat and would be bold to come out to say we deliberately cheated a customer, that would be so absurd, that they would want to cover up, that's the truth. But at times when the cheating is obvious and social media/websites are mounting pressure, they might change their stance and resolve it.

Notwithstanding, I will always say that we should know our own minds and not that of a company you are not even in control of, trust is deep. Again, we should not automatically side with the customer, and let both sides tender their allegations and defence, then people can weigh in and know the innocent and faulty side to get justice for the oppressed or wrongly accused, simple!

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It is true that casino support can use a response period of a month or more to a player's request. and the support itself explains this delay by the traditionally too heavy workload of support workers, then it is true that if you write your question here in the specialized topic of a specific casino, where posts are usually written by users of our forum who practice playing in this casino, they will answer much faster. Moreover, this answer will contain objective information because other users of our forum will not write what they are not sure of. And what the support will write is, for obvious reasons, formal replies almost always. Simply because for them the main goal is to make the applicant of the question disappear from their horizon as soon as possible along with his question or, especially, with the problem. So it is probably worth recommending that beginners boldly duplicate their questions to casino support here in the topics of a specific casino.
By doing this, they help not only themselves, but also all the other players of this casino.

Yes, it would really be fasten out the process specially if both things that you have done and just like been said that it would really be that something contributes when it comes to awareness of people or to the public
specially if there were issues that has been raised up. Its always important that the public or masses would really be able to know if there would really be some issues that been found out.
The thing that we do really want to happen is that whenever an issue gets resolved then people who had posted up some threads about those complaints should be closed or somewhat should be that
cleared up and minding about closing or telling on whats the update so that the community will really be that somewhat wary about on the certain condition and not leaving them hanging whether its already that
resolved or still pending.

Its true that there are certain users who do just simply vanish out on the time that their problems had been resolved out and dont mind to come back into this forum and would be
telling everyone in regarding the status. Thats why sometimes reading up information into this forum are somewhat incomplete on which it could cause up some potential confusion
just because you cant be sure whether the issue had been solved out or not.

I agree, indeed, a person whose problem is solved with the help of tips written by other BTT users, He can then decide that he has no time and desire to spend time informing about the solution to his problem on the forum. Well, indeed, many people disappear from the forum and we do not know whether their problem has been solved or not. Unfortunately, this happens, but such is the nature of certain irresphonsible people who, having solved their problem and knowing how to do it, do not want to share information with others. However, according to my observations, there are probably more responsible people in this sense and they still write about the way to solve the problem here on the forum.

[LUCKMCFLY]

This was when I realized that not every accusations against casinos we see online are true and legitimate, specially the ones where op after creating the accusation, will automatically disappear from that thread, only maybe coming around to read but never replying to any of the comments.

It is very true and that makes some players lose Credibility when they really have a Problem that needs the required attention, sometimes because of one person's mistake everyone Pays , and it is something that may seem very Unfair , I think that to make an accusation of fraud or Something that has to do with a casino of complaints here in the forum, the one who demands must make and comply with a scheme , something that certifies that their Accusation is Valid , in order to not have false positives or vice versa, and that this format that is fulfilled before being Sent is sent for review and later it will be Published.

[erep]

I agree, indeed, a person whose problem is solved with the help of tips written by other BTT users, He can then decide that he has no time and desire to spend time informing about the solution to his problem on the forum. Well, indeed, many people disappear from the forum and we do not know whether their problem has been solved or not. Unfortunately, this happens, but such is the nature of certain irresphonsible people who, having solved their problem and knowing how to do it, do not want to share information with others. However, according to my observations, there are probably more responsible people in this sense and they still write about the way to solve the problem here on the forum.

I usually find this case in new users making accusations of scams, sometimes they make accusation reports without clear report details and evidence of reports that are not concrete, but I salute BTT users who are still looking for solutions to deal with cases that have been reported and they have taken the time to investigate the casino to find the right solution. However, OP did not confirm the reply about the progress of the reported case and they did not take responsibility for the reported complaint, even though they simply gave a reply "the problem has been resolved, thank you very much for your contribution", just one sentence but it means a lot to appreciate the efforts of others who have helped handle their case.

[virasog]

This was when I realized that not every accusations against casinos we see online are true and legitimate, specially the ones where op after creating the accusation, will automatically disappear from that thread, only maybe coming around to read but never replying to any of the comments.

It is very true and that makes some players lose Credibility when they really have a Problem that needs the required attention, sometimes because of one person's mistake everyone Pays , and it is something that may seem very Unfair , I think that to make an accusation of fraud or Something that has to do with a casino of complaints here in the forum, the one who demands must make and comply with a scheme , something that certifies that their Accusation is Valid , in order to not have false positives or vice versa, and that this format that is fulfilled before being Sent is sent for review and later it will be Published.

Unfortunately there is no way to know that if a person who has put a scam accusations that whether the person asking for the decision has the real issue or is just defaming the casino.

Anyways if anyone puts scam acquisition it is very quickly known by everyone that it is fake or real by the discussion of the members and the OP fail to provide the valid proofs of scam.

Sometime that casino representative also response with the valid evidence telling and proving that it is the player who is at fault and not the casino.

[stomachgrowls]

I agree, indeed, a person whose problem is solved with the help of tips written by other BTT users, He can then decide that he has no time and desire to spend time informing about the solution to his problem on the forum. Well, indeed, many people disappear from the forum and we do not know whether their problem has been solved or not. Unfortunately, this happens, but such is the nature of certain irresphonsible people who, having solved their problem and knowing how to do it, do not want to share information with others. However, according to my observations, there are probably more responsible people in this sense and they still write about the way to solve the problem here on the forum.

I usually find this case in new users making accusations of scams, sometimes they make accusation reports without clear report details and evidence of reports that are not concrete, but I salute BTT users who are still looking for solutions to deal with cases that have been reported and they have taken the time to investigate the casino to find the right solution. However, OP did not confirm the reply about the progress of the reported case and they did not take responsibility for the reported complaint, even though they simply gave a reply "the problem has been resolved, thank you very much for your contribution", just one sentence but it means a lot to appreciate the efforts of others who have helped handle their case.

On the moment that they have been busted up by the house or platform that they had violated something on their terms and conditions then the community will really be just that simply tell that its a lesson learn for that complainant. It is really just that normal that platforms will really be having that kind of step or actions in towards to those who do violates their terms and conditions. Usually newbie accounts arent meaning always that they are old time members of this forum but rather they are really that first time on seeing or searched up this forum and see out various information in connection into the site that they are dealing on with. This is why different situations or possibilities that could be drawn out and its really important that the community will really be assessing out the situation whether on which one is true or not.

It will really be that understandable that there would really be doubts and this is why we would really be asking out some solid proof about into the claims because if they cant be able to provide
then just like been said by others that it will really be just ignored and moved on.

[Crypt0Gore]

Just like in the real world, it is very hard for humans to accept the fact that they are wrong; you will even see people putting their blame on others to avoid getting punished; in this gambling space, gamblers are most of the time ready to put their blame on the casinos.

They get mad for their own mistakes and go out online to find crazy people like them to tackle the casino upon fake claims. Although sometimes online casinos are not always fair to their customers, this could fuel some rage in some gamblers, but most of the time, it is always the gambler's fault.

Before you support any gambler who has lost money, make sure it is the right course, or else they will drag you through the mud. Most gamblers are not loyal; they use lies to hide their mistakes, and in the end, they get leaked anyway.

The truth always prevails.

[Wakate]

Just like in the real world, it is very hard for humans to accept the fact that they are wrong; you will even see people putting their blame on others to avoid getting punished; in this gambling space, gamblers are most of the time ready to put their blame on the casinos.

They get mad for their own mistakes and go out online to find crazy people like them to tackle the casino upon fake claims. Although sometimes online casinos are not always fair to their customers, this could fuel some rage in some gamblers, but most of the time, it is always the gambler's fault.

Before you support any gambler who has lost money, make sure it is the right course, or else they will drag you through the mud. Most gamblers are not loyal; they use lies to hide their mistakes, and in the end, they get leaked anyway.

The truth always prevails.

Most time most gamblers will never admit their mistakes and all they will rather do is to make sure that they put the blame on the casino they are using to make it looks like they casino is responsible for their lost or getting restricted. This is why many of the casino accusations I do see need critical scrutiny before one finally taken side in any of the two parties. It is not good for one to side one party without hearing from the other party. Sometimes, the casino might be responsible and most time gamblers should be blame especially when they do not read the terms and conditions thah is need to understand the casino rules and regional restrictions.

[BABY SHOES]

Its true that there are certain users who do just simply vanish out on the time that their problems had been resolved out and dont mind to come back into this forum and would be
telling everyone in regarding the status. Thats why sometimes reading up information into this forum are somewhat incomplete on which it could cause up some potential confusion
just because you cant be sure whether the issue had been solved out or not.

Usually the user has gotten his winning money from the casino then the user no longer cares about the discussion of the accusation whether it has been resolved or not... The fact is that there are still many users who just leave without changing the title to “resolved”.

We know that newbie accounts can come with accusations with some screenshot evidence, after clarification from the casino they will still deny if they haven't gotten the money, if they have been claimed then they will leave silently.

[khaled0111]

Most time most gamblers will never admit their mistakes and all they will rather do is to make sure that they put the blame on the casino they are using to make it looks like they casino is responsible for their lost or getting restricted. This is why many of the casino accusations I do see need critical scrutiny before one finally taken side in any of the two parties.

Telling the truth and admitting your mistakes are the first steps towards resolving the issue.
Just recently, a member created a topic in which he appologized to the casino and admitted publicly that he tried to cheat them. It appeared this is all the casino needed to proceed to resolving his issue and letting him withdraw his money.

Usually the user has gotten his winning money from the casino then the user no longer cares about the discussion of the accusation whether it has been resolved or not... The fact is that there are still many users who just leave without changing the title to “resolved”.

The casino has to make sure the user locks all accusations threads he opened against them and mark them as resolved before they let him withdraw his money.

[delfastTions]

I agree, indeed, a person whose problem is solved with the help of tips written by other BTT users, He can then decide that he has no time and desire to spend time informing about the solution to his problem on the forum. Well, indeed, many people disappear from the forum and we do not know whether their problem has been solved or not. Unfortunately, this happens, but such is the nature of certain irresphonsible people who, having solved their problem and knowing how to do it, do not want to share information with others. However, according to my observations, there are probably more responsible people in this sense and they still write about the way to solve the problem here on the forum.

I usually find this case in new users making accusations of scams, sometimes they make accusation reports without clear report details and evidence of reports that are not concrete, but I salute BTT users who are still looking for solutions to deal with cases that have been reported and they have taken the time to investigate the casino to find the right solution. However, OP did not confirm the reply about the progress of the reported case and they did not take responsibility for the reported complaint, even though they simply gave a reply "the problem has been resolved, thank you very much for your contribution", just one sentence but it means a lot to appreciate the efforts of others who have helped handle their case.

On the moment that they have been busted up by the house or platform that they had violated something on their terms and conditions then the community will really be just that simply tell that its a lesson learn for that complainant. It is really just that normal that platforms will really be having that kind of step or actions in towards to those who do violates their terms and conditions. Usually newbie accounts arent meaning always that they are old time members of this forum but rather they are really that first time on seeing or searched up this forum and see out various information in connection into the site that they are dealing on with. This is why different situations or possibilities that could be drawn out and its really important that the community will really be assessing out the situation whether on which one is true or not.

It will really be that understandable that there would really be doubts and this is why we would really be asking out some solid proof about into the claims because if they cant be able to provide
then just like been said by others that it will really be just ignored and moved on.

Probably, a certain part of messages of the type written by OP has no real continuation and is simply lost later in the dying over time topics, created initially to solve this problem. Apparently, if you look at some of these dead topics, then you will find similar situations simply because the newbie, stating his problem, is simply unable to find old answers to solve his problem. But many old users of our forum can quite well suggest such topics to a newbie, since they, of course, remember better what has already been discussed.
And in this regard, I appeal to old users of the forum with a request to still try to at least help newbies with simple links. By this we all obviously create a very user-friendly atmosphere on the forum.

[Pandu Geddon]

Usually the user has gotten his winning money from the casino then the user no longer cares about the discussion of the accusation whether it has been resolved or not... The fact is that there are still many users who just leave without changing the title to “resolved”.

The casino has to make sure the user locks all accusations threads he opened against them and mark them as resolved before they let him withdraw his money.

that's a good suggestion and can clear the name of the casino. besides the accusation thread, sometimes there are problematic users who also make reviews and give bad ratings on review websites that include the casino's name.

casinos might be better off doing something like that to limit users who make accusations and then leave their accusations when the case is over without giving a final statement and then locking the thread.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Usually the user has gotten his winning money from the casino then the user no longer cares about the discussion of the accusation whether it has been resolved or not... The fact is that there are still many users who just leave without changing the title to “resolved”.

The casino has to make sure the user locks all accusations threads he opened against them and mark them as resolved before they let him withdraw his money.

that's a good suggestion and can clear the name of the casino. besides the accusation thread, sometimes there are problematic users who also make reviews and give bad ratings on review websites that include the casino's name.

casinos might be better off doing something like that to limit users who make accusations and then leave their accusations when the case is over without giving a final statement and then locking the thread.

As much as I agree that what the both of you suggested is right, you all should also understand that there is no business that can successfully satisfy all her customers, so, regardless of how reputable a casino is and tries to make sure there are no bad reviews about them any where online, there will always be two or more players that the casino can never satisfy and this ones will always have a negative rating for the casino some where.

So, in the end, it's better for the casino to focus more on offering a very good service for their real and true customers than go about chasing what I call clout, which is trying to make sure there are no bad reviews about them anywhere, which to me is absolutely an impossible goal to achieve.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

Currently, there's a pattern. A person makes a new account in BitcoinTalk, makes a topic/accuses a casino of scamming him/her, and because some users need to bump up their post count for their signature campaigns, the topic gets more attention than it should be during a normal situation.

OK, it's understandable that users need to bump up their post count, but we should also be responsible to find the truth, and merely not believing an accusation from a person who literally made a brand new account, nor discussing it with the person like something wrong actually happened. Because actual scammers themselves will take advantage of us.

         -      Most complainants who accuse a casino do not have enough proof to prove that they are true to a casino, and many makers of newbies just to defeat a reputed and large casino in this crypto field space.

But some accuser is telling the truth because there are legitimate proofs that they are saying are true, but often the casinos they complain about are known to the Crypto Gambling space.

[tvplus006]

-      Most complainants who accuse a casino do not have enough proof to prove that they are true to a casino, and many makers of newbies just to defeat a reputed and large casino in this crypto field space.

But some accuser is telling the truth because there are legitimate proofs that they are saying are true, but often the casinos they complain about are known to the Crypto Gambling space.

In any case, any charges will not be considered unless evidence is presented confirming the fact of violation of obligations on the part of the casino. And if such evidence is really available, then such disputes are always resolved in favor of the player.

[Mahanton]

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I agree, indeed, a person whose problem is solved with the help of tips written by other BTT users, He can then decide that he has no time and desire to spend time informing about the solution to his problem on the forum. Well, indeed, many people disappear from the forum and we do not know whether their problem has been solved or not. Unfortunately, this happens, but such is the nature of certain irresphonsible people who, having solved their problem and knowing how to do it, do not want to share information with others. However, according to my observations, there are probably more responsible people in this sense and they still write about the way to solve the problem here on the forum.

It's always commendable for those who are mindful about giving out updates into the community basing up into the condition or status of his/her current issue on which it could give out benefit into those people who might be able to experience on the same issue or act as a reference just in case that it might happen into someone in the future.
It is really just that important that on the time or moment that your issue got resolved then it's always best or commendable that you should at least tell up the community in regard on the updates.

Situations will really vary into each individual on which we know that when it comes into this aspect that problems and solutions will differ.As for issues thrown at this forum then not the community will be that easily believes for it to be true until if there's a solid evidence or proof on which this is primarily the things that bring seek upon on the time or moment that issues been raised up..