DEA Agents in Silk Road Case Face Fraud Charges

[Blackbird0]

  it looks that that temptations are hard even for agents.

Did these agents give any declaration in the case?

No.

And that declaration are still valid even after what happened?
I don't know if they would be trustable people

It is highly unlikely that the government would ever attempt to introduce the fruits of their evidence or their testimony ever. Frankly, I don't see how it would be possible even, without an immunity order, because the agents would take the Fifth.

[bryant.coleman]

My thought on all this yes silk road was a dark market but im pretty sure this agents made users do even worst stuff from what their normal operations where at some point.

Cops and federal agents have been framing fake charges from time immemorial. The same has happened in the case of Silk Road as well.

[shogdite]

My thought on all this yes silk road was a dark market but im pretty sure this agents made users do even worst stuff from what their normal operations where at some point.

Cops and federal agents have been framing fake charges from time immemorial. The same has happened in the case of Silk Road as well.

There was another case recently (think I saw it on reddit) where undercover feds set up a honeypot selling arms on a dark market. The buyer ended up going getting arrested (though there was no talk of entrapment).

Framing, entrapment and corruption seem to be the hallmarks of modern day federal agents.

Who's watching the watchmen? 

[gugel8989]

The journal and the chat logs were not "generated and supplied" by the two officers and the decision to "kill" instead of "beating up" was Ross' very own idea. Just having the opportunity to pay a hitman was enough for him to actually do this. Not a hero at all to me...

[AGD]

The journal and the chat logs were not "generated and supplied" by the two officers and the decision to "kill" instead of "beating up" was Ross' very own idea. Just having the opportunity to pay a hitman was enough for him to actually do this. Not a hero at all to me...

Next time you quote my posts instead of simply stealing them, please ...

The journal and the chat logs were not "generated and supplied" by the two officers and the decision to "kill" instead of "beating up" was Ross' very own idea. Just having the opportunity to pay a hitman was enough for him to actually do this. Not a hero at all to me...

[shogdite]

The journal and the chat logs were not "generated and supplied" by the two officers and the decision to "kill" instead of "beating up" was Ross' very own idea. Just having the opportunity to pay a hitman was enough for him to actually do this. Not a hero at all to me...

Next time you quote my posts instead of simply stealing them, please ...

The journal and the chat logs were not "generated and supplied" by the two officers and the decision to "kill" instead of "beating up" was Ross' very own idea. Just having the opportunity to pay a hitman was enough for him to actually do this. Not a hero at all to me...

lol that's the second time today I've seen members copy pasting previous comments, really hope this isn't the start of a new trend of shitposting! sig campaigners already get enough flak without spammers duplicating other people's posts.

[hilariousandco]

Happens from time to time but someone usually spots them soon enough. Who was the other person doing it?

[bryant.coleman]

lol that's the second time today I've seen members copy pasting previous comments, really hope this isn't the start of a new trend of shitposting! sig campaigners already get enough flak without spammers duplicating other people's posts.

This sort of activity brings bad name for the honest posters. Banning will do no good. These people will soon buy another account and continue their activity.

There was another case recently (think I saw it on reddit) where undercover feds set up a honeypot selling arms on a dark market. The buyer ended up going getting arrested (though there was no talk of entrapment).

Framing, entrapment and corruption seem to be the hallmarks of modern day federal agents.

Who's watching the watchmen? 

Are you referring to this incident?

http://www.coindesk.com/federal-agents-arrest-boston-bitcoin-gun-buyer-in-sting-operation/

People who are residing in the United States needs to be extra vigilant when they use dark markets. Either be careful, or avoid using them. If you are careless and still want to buy guns / ammo, then get a Dominican citizenship and get the hell out of USA.

[QuestionAuthority]

lol that's the second time today I've seen members copy pasting previous comments, really hope this isn't the start of a new trend of shitposting! sig campaigners already get enough flak without spammers duplicating other people's posts.

This sort of activity brings bad name for the honest posters. Banning will do no good. These people will soon buy another account and continue their activity.

There was another case recently (think I saw it on reddit) where undercover feds set up a honeypot selling arms on a dark market. The buyer ended up going getting arrested (though there was no talk of entrapment).

Framing, entrapment and corruption seem to be the hallmarks of modern day federal agents.

Who's watching the watchmen? 

Are you referring to this incident?

http://www.coindesk.com/federal-agents-arrest-boston-bitcoin-gun-buyer-in-sting-operation/

People who are residing in the United States needs to be extra vigilant when they use dark markets. Either be careful, or avoid using them. If you are careless and still want to buy guns / ammo, then get a Dominican citizenship and get the hell out of USA.

That's different though. He was a felon trying to buy a firearm. It's easy to buy guns in the U.S. if you're not an ex-con. This country has no shortage of guns for sale. There are many times more guns in this country than there are people. Couldn't he just find a dirty pawn shop operator and pay 3x what the guns worth or buy one off the street in the ghetto like every other felon? The penalty isn't any worse and there's less chance of getting caught. What an imbecile. lol

[sAt0sHiFanClub]

That's different though. He was a felon trying to buy a firearm. It's easy to buy guns in the U.S. if you're not an ex-con. This country has no shortage of guns for sale. There are many times more guns in this country than there are people. Couldn't he just find a dirty pawn shop operator and pay 3x what the guns worth or buy one off the street in the ghetto like every other felon? The penalty isn't any worse and there's less chance of getting caught. What an imbecile. lol

Another lost soul who believed that complex technology could overcome basic stupidity.

[Its About Sharing]

This case is like made for TV movie.

Could the Crimes of Two Corrupt Agents Free Ross Ulbricht?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahjeong/2015/04/17/could-the-crimes-of-two-corrupt-agents-free-ross-ulbricht/

[sAt0sHiFanClub]

This case is like made for TV movie.

Could the Crimes of Two Corrupt Agents Free Ross Ulbricht?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahjeong/2015/04/17/could-the-crimes-of-two-corrupt-agents-free-ross-ulbricht/

. There’s a strange logic at work here. Even if it were possible to do so through chat transcripts that don’t implicate Force or Bridges, and even if a court were to find that no entrapment occurred, it doesn’t change the fact that none of this would have happened without Bridges’s misconduct

I think I made that point earlier on in this thread, but legal opinion seemed to discount it. How bizarre.

[bryant.coleman]

This case is like made for TV movie.

Could the Crimes of Two Corrupt Agents Free Ross Ulbricht?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahjeong/2015/04/17/could-the-crimes-of-two-corrupt-agents-free-ross-ulbricht/

And I am sure that this show will never be allowed to be aired in the Cable TV. Even if they allow it, it will be the heavily-censored version. May be they should upload it to YouTube or some other video-sharing site.

[dwma]

This case is like made for TV movie.

Could the Crimes of Two Corrupt Agents Free Ross Ulbricht?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahjeong/2015/04/17/could-the-crimes-of-two-corrupt-agents-free-ross-ulbricht/

And I am sure that this show will never be allowed to be aired in the Cable TV. Even if they allow it, it will be the heavily-censored version. May be they should upload it to YouTube or some other video-sharing site.

While the US government restricts a lot of freedoms I find it doubtful this would ever be censored by cable TV.

[Its About Sharing]

This case is like made for TV movie.

Could the Crimes of Two Corrupt Agents Free Ross Ulbricht?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahjeong/2015/04/17/could-the-crimes-of-two-corrupt-agents-free-ross-ulbricht/

. There’s a strange logic at work here. Even if it were possible to do so through chat transcripts that don’t implicate Force or Bridges, and even if a court were to find that no entrapment occurred, it doesn’t change the fact that none of this would have happened without Bridges’s misconduct

I think I made that point earlier on in this thread, but legal opinion seemed to discount it. How bizarre.

Not to discount what any legal experts here said, but it all comes down to subjective interpretation to a point. Yeah, the laws might be quite "objective" but how the judge, prosecution and defense interpret them are quite otherwise. I brought up a bit of the same as you and the legal experts discounted it.

Regardless, it is nice to see legal experts who see things the way most on this thread have as well.

[guybrushthreepwood]

This case is like made for TV movie.

Could the Crimes of Two Corrupt Agents Free Ross Ulbricht?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahjeong/2015/04/17/could-the-crimes-of-two-corrupt-agents-free-ross-ulbricht/

Haha. It really is. They're actually making a film about Silk Road which the screenplay is being written now by Dennis Lehane (Shutter Island / The Drop). I wonder if they'll include this latest revelation. I've always thought it would make great story for a film but wondered how they could make it work seeing as it will be mostly based on 'online activity'.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3271820/?ref_=nm_dev_5

[Its About Sharing]

This case is like made for TV movie.

Could the Crimes of Two Corrupt Agents Free Ross Ulbricht?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahjeong/2015/04/17/could-the-crimes-of-two-corrupt-agents-free-ross-ulbricht/

Haha. It really is. They're actually making a film about Silk Road which the screenplay is being written now by Dennis Lehane (Shutter Island / The Drop). I wonder if they'll include this latest revelation. I've always thought it would make great story for a film but wondered how they could make it work seeing as it will be mostly based on 'online activity'.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3271820/?ref_=nm_dev_5

I really hope they wait for the Ross outcome (re-trial hopefully and then he is off  )
These types of movies can have a significant affect on people (which is but 1 reason with the government is going to all measures to make sure Ross is not let off the hook. They want to make a HUGE example of him of course.)

[duckydonald]

This case is like made for TV movie.

Could the Crimes of Two Corrupt Agents Free Ross Ulbricht?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahjeong/2015/04/17/could-the-crimes-of-two-corrupt-agents-free-ross-ulbricht/

Haha. It really is. They're actually making a film about Silk Road which the screenplay is being written now by Dennis Lehane (Shutter Island / The Drop). I wonder if they'll include this latest revelation. I've always thought it would make great story for a film but wondered how they could make it work seeing as it will be mostly based on 'online activity'.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3271820/?ref_=nm_dev_5

I really hope they wait for the Ross outcome (re-trial hopefully and then he is off  )
These types of movies can have a significant affect on people (which is but 1 reason with the government is going to all measures to make sure Ross is not let off the hook. They want to make a HUGE example of him of course.)

Fuck the US GoV I lost all hope in good no matter DEM or REPUB they are both corupt and faster people realize this and our army, is time to overthrow these fuck faces.  That now only put men and women in harms way but also do harm just to protect themselves.  From Snowden to Ross.  This shows how the Gov works against anything that is threat to them


Briing the P2P dark Markets, and I mean a shit load of them.  Lets see how many FBI, DEA can cover all of them, and keep making more and switching them and make new names.  fuck there Evidence lies, fuck you Obaba, I voted for you and now I see, that no matter your skin color, your the same piece of shit like the rest of them.  A PUPPET with Strings.

[duckydonald]

This case is like made for TV movie.

Could the Crimes of Two Corrupt Agents Free Ross Ulbricht?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahjeong/2015/04/17/could-the-crimes-of-two-corrupt-agents-free-ross-ulbricht/

Haha. It really is. They're actually making a film about Silk Road which the screenplay is being written now by Dennis Lehane (Shutter Island / The Drop). I wonder if they'll include this latest revelation. I've always thought it would make great story for a film but wondered how they could make it work seeing as it will be mostly based on 'online activity'.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3271820/?ref_=nm_dev_5

I think they need to wait for the final conclusion I really believe the hitman shit was made up just to build a case out of Ross.

[duckydonald]

Yeah I guess Mark had no reason to hand over the MTGOX bitcoins to the government, did you already forgot about the corruption?  

I dont see him in prison and bet you if Ross was in Japan they would have still put the blame on him.

Mark Karpeles is the guy who single-handedly destroyed the reputation of Bitcoin. The negativity which Bitcoin received after the Mt Gox scandal is going to stay for many years to come. Also, Karpeles destroyed the life savings of tens of thousands of people, some of who were among the earliest adapters of Bitcoin.

So in short, Karpeles is the no.1 enemy of Bitcoin, which makes him a friend of the bankers and oligarchs.

Ive been trying to educate people on bitcoin since I knew about bitcoin. I explained to my uncle, who is an attorney, and when we talked 6 months or so ago, the only thing he can remember about bitcoin is the mtgox scam. So, it totally turned him off to bitcoin. Im sure it turned millions off as well. Those that  understand it, are used to the scams, unfortunately. but bitcoin is going to be hard to go mainstream with so much bad publicity. plus the mt gox deal wasnt small, hundreds of millions are missing...I feel bad for those that lost money on mtgox, but I saw the writing on the wall way before they went under and was lucky to get all my coins off it. I dont understand why so many people didnt see the signs?

Yes I saw the signs as well when I heard how long it took to withdraw and exchange, I already new they were doing things wrong.  I warned people, I should have came on here to warn, everyone to get your money off, but then it would came to, "Where is the Proof"  line.  So the people who lost, had to learn from it.  Remember, is a new kind of bike to ride and people need to learn.  but fuck mad this guy got rich in the expenses of others, would be really nice he was in prison.   Im sure he paid the gov off, like Lynn Ulbericht mentioned.