DASH Collapsing Monero UP

[generalizethis]

profound...

Hey - don't overstretch yourself.

There's a long day ahead  

Maybe you can start your day with answering these straight forward questions:

--If the instamine doesn't matter to potential investors, why does your ANN say, "Dash has no premine and was fairly and transparently launched" The difference between an instamine to someone trying to avoid a premine is similar to the difference of someone trying to avoid simple carbs, but thinking that the manufacturer includes high fructose corn syrup when they list the product as sugar-free. It's greasy advertising at best, and a bait and switch at worst.

--Why do you use x11 as an algo when experts (actual crytographers) agree that every algo you add weakens the whole?

--Why should we trust Evan to get privacy at the protocol level correct, when he either botched the launch or lied?

--Why is there no peer review of Evan's plans for evolution? My guess is he wants to keep moving the target before his ineptitude is realized by the seemingly cultish dash community.

 

[onemorexmr]

People are righteously affraid because Ewan can decide anytime to get out and become ultra-rich. That instamine "glitch" is costing and gonna cost Dash in the future, by now, because of the best fundamentals among other coins, it should've replaced Litecoin, but it's not happening and the big question is if it will. Thing is, and maybe it sounds insane, but if Ewan destroyed most of his stash, that would launch Dash to like 100-200x the price now. Maybe a smart move to do - that would end this "instamine" drama once and forever.

The problem with your idea is Evan does not have a huge stash to destroy. There were a lot of coins mined by whoever was there mining they did not go to him in particular, just a portion. The largest holders are all investors that bought in exchanges.

please provide proof!

i dont believe that for a second... i was there in the first minutes of xcoin and saw the chaos.
it was not easy (nearly impossible) to mine it.
i know that he mined it and had thousands of coins shortly after launch.

[illodin]

i know that he mined it and had thousands of coins shortly after launch.

Everyone who mined had thousands of coins shortly after launch.

And everyone who bothered paying 0.1 BTC for them in the first weeks also got thousands of coins.

[generalizethis]

--Why do you use x11 as an algo when experts (actual crytographers) agree that every algo you add weakens the whole?

If a weakness is found in one of the algos it can simply be removed, enter X10.

Wrong. courtesy of anonymint/tptb_need_war:


"If any one of the hashes in the chain of 11 hashes has a lower entropy then the entire chain does. Say you found this vulnerability and didn't announce it. Instead you could use it to amplify your hashrate. With that you could take unfair levels of mining rewards, or potentially launch double-spend attacks.

Fixing it after the fact also probably means the inability to unwind the damage already done if it had gone on a long time undetected.

So 11 hashes is 11 times more likely to have a vulnerability than 1 hash."

[onemorexmr]

i know that he mined it and had thousands of coins shortly after launch.

Everyone who mined had thousands of coins shortly after launch.

And everyone who bothered paying 0.1 BTC for them in the first weeks also got thousands of coins.

i only know that he has thousands. he may have more...
the instamine was very huge.

but i see: you have no proof that evan hasnt much coins ;-)

[smoothie]

i know that he mined it and had thousands of coins shortly after launch.

Everyone who mined had thousands of coins shortly after launch.

And everyone who bothered paying 0.1 BTC for them in the first weeks also got thousands of coins.

i only know that he has thousands. he may have more...
the instamine was very huge.

but i see: you have no proof that evan hasnt much coins ;-)

Dealing in facts has not been their strong point for some time.

Saying things like "Evan doesn't have lots of Dash"

and

"If you want to know about Evolution go read up about it".....with no link to white paper nor peer review....just vaporware and claims based on what evan has SAID, not on what evan has DONE.

[generalizethis]

In self-moderated threads, Deleted posts are usually the most useful ones.

And so are the questions that go ignored.  

profound...

Hey - don't overstretch yourself.

There's a long day ahead  

Maybe you can start your day with answering these straight forward questions:

--If the instamine doesn't matter to potential investors, why does your ANN say, "Dash has no premine and was fairly and transparently launched" The difference between an instamine to someone trying to avoid a premine is similar to the difference of someone trying to avoid simple carbs, but thinking that the manufacturer includes high fructose corn syrup when they list the product as sugar-free. It's greasy advertising at best, and a bait and switch at worst.

--Why do you use x11 as an algo when experts (actual crytographers) agree that every algo you add weakens the whole?

--Why should we trust Evan to get privacy at the protocol level correct, when he either botched the launch or lied?

--Why is there no peer review of Evan's plans for evolution? My guess is he wants to keep moving the target before his ineptitude is realized by the seemingly cultish dash community.

 

[DrkLvr_]

100% pure bullshit.

Still waiting Minotaur. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1220204

How is it that you can sell coins OTC while Evan advertises that he's buying on exchanges? Did you contact designerusa to apologize and reimburse him for the terrible trading advice you gave him? Are you even licensed to give trading advice? 

[DrkLvr_]

i know that he mined it and had thousands of coins shortly after launch.

Everyone who mined had thousands of coins shortly after launch.

And everyone who bothered paying 0.1 BTC for them in the first weeks also got thousands of coins.

i only know that he has thousands. he may have more...
the instamine was very huge.

but i see: you have no proof that evan hasnt much coins ;-)

try hundreds of thousands. remember that 500,000 DASH were mined in the first 1 hour alone. 1.5 million in the first 8 hours. The vast majority of that was "Evan and friends"

[iCEBREAKER]

the questions that go ignored.  

--Why do you use x11 as an algo when experts (actual crytographers) agree that every algo you add weakens the whole?

--Why should we trust Evan to get privacy at the protocol level correct, when he either botched the launch or lied?

--Why is there no peer review of Evan's plans for evolution?
 

Will the whitepaper(s) provide guidance on these important, yet heretofore unanswered, questions?

[smoothie]

People are righteously affraid because Ewan can decide anytime to get out and become ultra-rich. That instamine "glitch" is costing and gonna cost Dash in the future, by now, because of the best fundamentals among other coins, it should've replaced Litecoin, but it's not happening and the big question is if it will. Thing is, and maybe it sounds insane, but if Ewan destroyed most of his stash, that would launch Dash to like 100-200x the price now. Maybe a smart move to do - that would end this "instamine" drama once and forever.

The problem with your idea is Evan does not have a huge stash to destroy. There were a lot of coins mined by whoever was there mining they did not go to him in particular, just a portion. The largest holders are all investors that bought in exchanges.

LOL @ THIS:

[luigi1111]

I am a paid shill? Prove it.

For a guy who claims to have lost his wallets and therefore has no current holdings in dash, you are doing a lot of prove it talk.

You lost your wallets? Prove it. Because the tone and amount of post you do defending dash makes it seem like you are still holding a lot of dash.

And this coming from a guy who claims to troll DASH only for altruistic reasons himself. I guess the same applies to you:

What you hope is DASH to go away so your Monero bags could go to m0000n.

I hold monero (as well as aeon) and never claimed my reasons for criticizing dash were wholly altruistic. But if the the criticism fits, you wear it whether it is coming from a saint or a sinner.

Now how about that proof of losing your wallets? Also, how would dash's market cap equal a moon shot--a moonshot is billions beyond where Bitcoin currently is. So we should be criticizing Bitcoin for its lack of fungibility in moneroland (which we do) and digital fiat for its lack of privacy (which everyone does). Criticism are either valid, invalid or opinion and dash's instamine is valid, x11's weakness as an algo is valid, and darksend's second rate privacy is valid as attested by Evan himself (finally).

It's not possible to prove the loss of something digital. Aside from that, that looks like pretty classic trolling; he didn't really lose his wallet(s), guys.

[gnargnar]

So much trolling going on, as always
But regarding the thread title, the charts speak :
DASH is starting to go up and up, while monero not sure where it's going.
Expecting dash back to 0.008++ by the weekend.

[smoothie]

So much trolling going on, as always
But regarding the thread title, the charts speak :
DASH is starting to go up and up, while monero not sure where it's going.
Expecting dash to 0.008++ by the weekend.

It takes a keen eye to sift through all the shit being thrown by the dash-peeps and people who are calling out their shady actions.

Lots of facts have been presented from one side and the other side likes to just ignore the facts and tough questions and then sling shit at those tho ask the questions.

Childish tactics.

[connexus]

Dash and Monero are down right now. Maybe we should blame Bitcoin for the price slump.

[illodin]

LOL @ THIS:

https://i.imgur.com/uoKRgd6.png

Looks like back then DASH was $2.76 a piece, and today it's down 15% from that. I've seen worse. Actually if he had sold a few weeks after he would've gotten 15% profits! If you hold any asset long enough it's likely at some point it's going to be lower than you bought.

On the other hand, I just checked coinmarketcap, and it looks like Monero has been in descent its whole existence $2.50 => $0.42.

[DrkLvr_]

LOL @ THIS:

https://i.imgur.com/uoKRgd6.png

tireless defending

Where are you getting the $2.50 figure for Monero?

[DrkLvr_]

LOL @ THIS:

https://i.imgur.com/uoKRgd6.png

Looks like back then DASH was $2.76 a piece, and today it's down 15% from that. I've seen worse. Actually if he had sold a few weeks after he would've gotten 15% profits! If you hold any asset long enough it's likely at some point it's going to be lower than you bought.

On the other hand, I just checked coinmarketcap, and it looks like Monero has been in descent its whole existence $2.50 => $0.42.

By the way spinmaster illodin, the scandalous part isn't just that the price is lower than it was before. It's that a DASH core team member Minotaur26 is blatently promoting unlicensed securities (his own shitcoin), and dispensing trading/investment advice. Conflict of interest much?  

I hope Minotaur seeks legal counsel if he hasn't already.

[illodin]

By the way spinmaster illodin, the scandalous part isn't just that the price is lower than it was before. It's that a DASH core team member Minotaur26 is blatently promoting unlicensed securities (his own shitcoin), and dispensing trading/investment advice. Conflict of interest much?  

What a scandal indeed, never seen before behaviour! Did you arrive here yesterday?

Btw you don't want to throw rocks when living in a glass house.

I hope

What you hope is DASH to go away so your Monero bags could go to m0000n.

[DrkLvr_]

It has been seen before.. on countless other pump and dump shitcoins. Thanks for confirming DASH is no better.

Still waiting on where you got that $2.50 figure for Monero. Seems you just make shit up then ignore whatever inconvenient questions arise.