Flat Earth

[exemplaar]

Not only does the Bible state specifically and in no in certain terms that the Earth is covered by a dome but it also says point blank that the Earth is motionless in multiple passages.

Biblical references:
   1 Chronicles 16:30
   Psalm 93:1
   Psalm 96:10
   Psalm 104:5
   Isaiah 45:18


Empirical proof the Earth is motionless:
   1. Michaelson & Morley Experiment with proof of aether from the Sagnac Experiment.
   2. Airy's Experiment.  

The bible begs to differ...

1 Chronicles 16:30 - http://biblehub.com/1_chronicles/16-30.htm
It does NOT say it's motionless - it just says that it will never pass away. It will remain in its place (within the solar system / galaxy / universe) for ever.

Psalm 93:1 - http://biblehub.com/psalms/93-1.htm
Same here. God promises that his creation (being the world or the earth or whatever he created basically) will never pass away. No mention of or any kind of reference to motion.

Psalm 96:10 - http://biblehub.com/psalms/96-10.htm
Same here...

Psalm 104:5 - http://biblehub.com/psalms/104-5.htm
...and here...

Isaiah 45:18 - http://biblehub.com/isaiah/45-18.htm
'For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.'
Where has ANYONE seen that it says here the earth is flat OR motionless.

It is easy for anyone to make ANY bold claim. The idea is for the same person to be able to back it up...
Any other bible passages we should know about?

I have plenty of passages in store that literally obliterate spinning ball earth in imaginary outer space.

Here are just some of them, that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever if you believe in heliocentric fakery. So it is on you to start thinking. Don't be ignorant. Have a great day.

Gen 7:10,11
Gen 11:2-8
Gen 19:23-25
Gen 28:12
Jos 10:12,13
Isa 38:8
Ps.19:1-6
Mt.24:29

And remember:

[requitix]

How as an individual can I know if the Earth is a sphere or a flat disc? What experiment can I do that doesn't involve trusting information from a 3rd party that would prove what the geometry really is?

The earth is flat... On paper...

[Astargath]

Not only does the Bible state specifically and in no in certain terms that the Earth is covered by a dome but it also says point blank that the Earth is motionless in multiple passages.

Biblical references:
   1 Chronicles 16:30
   Psalm 93:1
   Psalm 96:10
   Psalm 104:5
   Isaiah 45:18


Empirical proof the Earth is motionless:
   1. Michaelson & Morley Experiment with proof of aether from the Sagnac Experiment.
   2. Airy's Experiment.  

The bible begs to differ...

1 Chronicles 16:30 - http://biblehub.com/1_chronicles/16-30.htm
It does NOT say it's motionless - it just says that it will never pass away. It will remain in its place (within the solar system / galaxy / universe) for ever.

Psalm 93:1 - http://biblehub.com/psalms/93-1.htm
Same here. God promises that his creation (being the world or the earth or whatever he created basically) will never pass away. No mention of or any kind of reference to motion.

Psalm 96:10 - http://biblehub.com/psalms/96-10.htm
Same here...

Psalm 104:5 - http://biblehub.com/psalms/104-5.htm
...and here...

Isaiah 45:18 - http://biblehub.com/isaiah/45-18.htm
'For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.'
Where has ANYONE seen that it says here the earth is flat OR motionless.

It is easy for anyone to make ANY bold claim. The idea is for the same person to be able to back it up...
Any other bible passages we should know about?

I have plenty of passages in store that literally obliterate spinning ball earth in imaginary outer space.

Here are just some of them, that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever if you believe in heliocentric fakery. So it is on you to start thinking. Don't be ignorant. Have a great day.

Gen 7:10,11
Gen 11:2-8
Gen 19:23-25
Gen 28:12
Jos 10:12,13
Isa 38:8
Ps.19:1-6
Mt.24:29

And remember:

Ah yes, the classical youtube videos research + a few meme photos AND last but not least, the bible.    Why should anyone listen to what the bible has to say?

''An unproven invisible force'' Jump from a bridge and you will feel the force

''Curve water upside down'' Well, where to start here, first of all there is no upside down in space, I don't know if you knew that.

''Globe earth math 100% debunked.'' By youtube videos?

https://www.astro.umd.edu/~richard/ASTRO340/eratosthenes.pdf

[notbatman]

...
https://www.astro.umd.edu/~richard/ASTRO340/eratosthenes.pdf

This is Eratosthenes:





This is Eratosthenes theory:


Source: https://www.astro.umd.edu/~richard/ASTRO340/eratosthenes.pdf


This is a still-frame from a video recorded aboard an airplane:





This is a comparison of a flat and motionless Earth vs. Eratosthenes theory (the globe):


...

[notbatman]

I believe this is a real photograph:


Source: https://www.dreamstime.com/stock-image-sun-rays-shining-clouds-image11302331

[Astargath]

I believe this is a real photograph:

This is math. https://www.astro.umd.edu/~richard/ASTRO340/eratosthenes.pdf

Pointless images are pointless, stay in school kids, learn math.

[BADecker]

I believe this is a real photograph:


Source: https://www.dreamstime.com/stock-image-sun-rays-shining-clouds-image11302331

This is a partial panoramic view. It may not be a full 360 degree view, or even a complete 180 degree view, but it shows exactly what a GE picture should show in a partial panoramic view.

[Astargath]

I believe this is a real photograph:


Source: https://www.dreamstime.com/stock-image-sun-rays-shining-clouds-image11302331

This is a partial panoramic view. It may not be a full 360 degree view, or even a complete 180 degree view, but it shows exactly what a GE picture should show in a partial panoramic view.

I would also like to ask our friend what are his parameters to determine whether an image is real or not, something like:

If it shows the earth is not flat it has to be false otherwise it has to be true, right?

[notbatman]

Q: "determine whether an image is real or not"

A: "A digital camera equipped with a processor for authentication of images produced from an image file taken by the digital camera is provided. The digital camera processor has embedded therein a private key unique to it, and the camera housing has a public key that is so uniquely related to the private key that digital data encrypted with the private key may be decrypted using the public key. The digital camera processor comprises means for calculating a hash of the image file using a predetermined algorithm, and second means for encrypting the image hash with the private key, thereby producing a digital signature. The image file and the digital signature are stored in suitable recording means so they will be available together. Apparatus for authenticating the image file as being free of any alteration uses the public key for decrypting the digital signature, thereby deriving a secure image hash identical to the image hash produced by the digital camera and used to produce the digital signature. The authenticating apparatus calculates from the image file an image hash using the same algorithm as before. By comparing this last image hash with the secure image hash, authenticity of the image file is determined if they match. Other techniques to address time-honored methods of deception, such as attaching false captions or inducing forced perspectives, are included." -- http://www.patents.com/us-5499294.html

Canon and Nikon use this encryption technology to digitally sign their photographs.


edit:

Shame, it's been cracked.
https://blog.elcomsoft.com/2011/04/nikon-image-authentication-system-compromised/

[BADecker]

Q: "determine whether an image is real or not"

A: "A digital camera equipped with a processor for authentication of images produced from an image file taken by the digital camera is provided. The digital camera processor has embedded therein a private key unique to it, and the camera housing has a public key that is so uniquely related to the private key that digital data encrypted with the private key may be decrypted using the public key. The digital camera processor comprises means for calculating a hash of the image file using a predetermined algorithm, and second means for encrypting the image hash with the private key, thereby producing a digital signature. The image file and the digital signature are stored in suitable recording means so they will be available together. Apparatus for authenticating the image file as being free of any alteration uses the public key for decrypting the digital signature, thereby deriving a secure image hash identical to the image hash produced by the digital camera and used to produce the digital signature. The authenticating apparatus calculates from the image file an image hash using the same algorithm as before. By comparing this last image hash with the secure image hash, authenticity of the image file is determined if they match. Other techniques to address time-honored methods of deception, such as attaching false captions or inducing forced perspectives, are included." -- http://www.patents.com/us-5499294.html

Canon and Nikon use this encryption technology to digitally sign their photographs.

I suspect that you could find and post all kinds of technical info for all kinds of equipment if you really wanted to.

[Astargath]

Q: "determine whether an image is real or not"

A: "A digital camera equipped with a processor for authentication of images produced from an image file taken by the digital camera is provided. The digital camera processor has embedded therein a private key unique to it, and the camera housing has a public key that is so uniquely related to the private key that digital data encrypted with the private key may be decrypted using the public key. The digital camera processor comprises means for calculating a hash of the image file using a predetermined algorithm, and second means for encrypting the image hash with the private key, thereby producing a digital signature. The image file and the digital signature are stored in suitable recording means so they will be available together. Apparatus for authenticating the image file as being free of any alteration uses the public key for decrypting the digital signature, thereby deriving a secure image hash identical to the image hash produced by the digital camera and used to produce the digital signature. The authenticating apparatus calculates from the image file an image hash using the same algorithm as before. By comparing this last image hash with the secure image hash, authenticity of the image file is determined if they match. Other techniques to address time-honored methods of deception, such as attaching false captions or inducing forced perspectives, are included." -- http://www.patents.com/us-5499294.html

Canon and Nikon use this encryption technology to digitally sign their photographs.

So then: https://twitter.com/astro_timpeake/status/736926801830744068?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpetapixel.com%2F2016%2F06%2F01%2Fastronaut-shares-photo-nikon-dslr-kits-iss%2F

All the photos this guy made have to be real, right?

[BADecker]

Q: "determine whether an image is real or not"

A: "A digital camera equipped with a processor for authentication of images produced from an image file taken by the digital camera is provided. The digital camera processor has embedded therein a private key unique to it, and the camera housing has a public key that is so uniquely related to the private key that digital data encrypted with the private key may be decrypted using the public key. The digital camera processor comprises means for calculating a hash of the image file using a predetermined algorithm, and second means for encrypting the image hash with the private key, thereby producing a digital signature. The image file and the digital signature are stored in suitable recording means so they will be available together. Apparatus for authenticating the image file as being free of any alteration uses the public key for decrypting the digital signature, thereby deriving a secure image hash identical to the image hash produced by the digital camera and used to produce the digital signature. The authenticating apparatus calculates from the image file an image hash using the same algorithm as before. By comparing this last image hash with the secure image hash, authenticity of the image file is determined if they match. Other techniques to address time-honored methods of deception, such as attaching false captions or inducing forced perspectives, are included." -- http://www.patents.com/us-5499294.html

Canon and Nikon use this encryption technology to digitally sign their photographs.

So then: https://twitter.com/astro_timpeake/status/736926801830744068?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpetapixel.com%2F2016%2F06%2F01%2Fastronaut-shares-photo-nikon-dslr-kits-iss%2F

All the photos this guy made have to be real, right?

Oh, so good. Outdid yourself this time.     

[notbatman]

Q: "determine whether an image is real or not"

A: "A digital camera equipped with a processor for authentication of images produced from an image file taken by the digital camera is provided. The digital camera processor has embedded therein a private key unique to it, and the camera housing has a public key that is so uniquely related to the private key that digital data encrypted with the private key may be decrypted using the public key. The digital camera processor comprises means for calculating a hash of the image file using a predetermined algorithm, and second means for encrypting the image hash with the private key, thereby producing a digital signature. The image file and the digital signature are stored in suitable recording means so they will be available together. Apparatus for authenticating the image file as being free of any alteration uses the public key for decrypting the digital signature, thereby deriving a secure image hash identical to the image hash produced by the digital camera and used to produce the digital signature. The authenticating apparatus calculates from the image file an image hash using the same algorithm as before. By comparing this last image hash with the secure image hash, authenticity of the image file is determined if they match. Other techniques to address time-honored methods of deception, such as attaching false captions or inducing forced perspectives, are included." -- http://www.patents.com/us-5499294.html

Canon and Nikon use this encryption technology to digitally sign their photographs.

So then: https://twitter.com/astro_timpeake/status/736926801830744068?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpetapixel.com%2F2016%2F06%2F01%2Fastronaut-shares-photo-nikon-dslr-kits-iss%2F

All the photos this guy made have to be real, right?

That link doesn't have any pictures, just a bunch of smart remarks.







edit:

Nikon has been cracked. -- https://blog.elcomsoft.com/2011/04/nikon-image-authentication-system-compromised/

[newboi]

Are any of you flat earth nutters gonna explain why things fall to the ground, or are you just gonna keep changing the subject and shifting the burden of proof?

[notbatman]

Are any of you flat earth nutters gonna explain why things fall to the ground, or are you just gonna keep changing the subject and shifting the burden of proof?

I've answered the question many times.


Edit:

I'll recap for you...

The reason objects fall is because they're denser than the air or whatever substance surrounds them. The object displaces the air and the air reacts by pushing the object down. It's more complex than just the air pushing on things but that's the basics of why things fall.

[danmoris]

Hey people can we talk about something that really happened...like the MOON LANDING !
Come on people!

Apparently, the moon landings are all faked, and were filmed in Hollywood Studios, directed by Stanley Kubrick !!!

Have you heard the latest? Hurricane Maria is a false flag event, with all the damage depicted of the entire island nothing more than CGI. And, there was no earthquake in Mexico City, again, all staged-cum-CGI.

Hell, I'll go one even better - BobLaw is a white straight male living in Cleveland, Ohio, with the only horses in his life consisting of cum-stained My Little Pony dolls.

What if the hurricane and earthquake were triggered by people with an agenda and the technological means to do so? What's your point here trying to mock this shit, the Moon landing is so fucking obviously fake you're a fool if you're trying to defend it. You're not backing a scam are you?

You'll go on my naughty list with Vod...

Everyone talks of people with agendas and in reality, that might be true, but my question is, why don't people who know about it - such as yourself - attack and destroy them instead of attacking innocent people here in the forum? They are united - we are divided. They win, we lose.

[Astargath]

Q: "determine whether an image is real or not"

A: "A digital camera equipped with a processor for authentication of images produced from an image file taken by the digital camera is provided. The digital camera processor has embedded therein a private key unique to it, and the camera housing has a public key that is so uniquely related to the private key that digital data encrypted with the private key may be decrypted using the public key. The digital camera processor comprises means for calculating a hash of the image file using a predetermined algorithm, and second means for encrypting the image hash with the private key, thereby producing a digital signature. The image file and the digital signature are stored in suitable recording means so they will be available together. Apparatus for authenticating the image file as being free of any alteration uses the public key for decrypting the digital signature, thereby deriving a secure image hash identical to the image hash produced by the digital camera and used to produce the digital signature. The authenticating apparatus calculates from the image file an image hash using the same algorithm as before. By comparing this last image hash with the secure image hash, authenticity of the image file is determined if they match. Other techniques to address time-honored methods of deception, such as attaching false captions or inducing forced perspectives, are included." -- http://www.patents.com/us-5499294.html

Canon and Nikon use this encryption technology to digitally sign their photographs.

So then: https://twitter.com/astro_timpeake/status/736926801830744068?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpetapixel.com%2F2016%2F06%2F01%2Fastronaut-shares-photo-nikon-dslr-kits-iss%2F

All the photos this guy made have to be real, right?

That link doesn't have any pictures, just a bunch of smart remarks.

The link is to prove he takes his photos with a nikon, he has plenty of photos in his profile:

https://twitter.com/astro_timpeake/status/876437156352446464

https://twitter.com/astro_timpeake/status/855781447659081729

https://twitter.com/astro_timpeake/status/832684613294182400

https://twitter.com/astro_timpeake/status/827619432398745600

[serbad]

Hey people can we talk about something that really happened...like the MOON LANDING !
Come on people!

Apparently, the moon landings are all faked, and were filmed in Hollywood Studios, directed by Stanley Kubrick !!!

Have you heard the latest? Hurricane Maria is a false flag event, with all the damage depicted of the entire island nothing more than CGI. And, there was no earthquake in Mexico City, again, all staged-cum-CGI.

Hell, I'll go one even better - BobLaw is a white straight male living in Cleveland, Ohio, with the only horses in his life consisting of cum-stained My Little Pony dolls.

What if the hurricane and earthquake were triggered by people with an agenda and the technological means to do so? What's your point here trying to mock this shit, the Moon landing is so fucking obviously fake you're a fool if you're trying to defend it. You're not backing a scam are you?

You'll go on my naughty list with Vod...

Everyone talks of people with agendas and in reality, that might be true, but my question is, why don't people who know about it - such as yourself - attack and destroy them instead of attacking innocent people here in the forum? They are united - we are divided. They win, we lose.

There is no Justice here in this place anymore....None ....corruption everywhere..
After the revelation tho...Purely for entertainment purposes we are going to get cricket bats and make a game show out of these lying scheming corrupt bastards.!!! Where wrong answers means seconds and we get celebrities on like Ian Botham to crack fuck out  their asses..
So stay tuned for that.

[Astargath]

<snip>

Don't get caught up in his Reductio ad absurdum.

It's my quest from now on to convince notbatman to stop believing in nonsense and accept that the earth is not flat.

[notbatman]

<snip>

Don't get caught up in his Reductio ad absurdum.

It's my quest from now on to convince notbatman to stop believing in nonsense and accept that the earth is not flat.

OK you can start by proving the Sun's rays hit the Earth in parallel. You claim Eratosthenes theory is correct, now fucking prove it!