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The Flat Earth model is an archaic conception of Earth's shape as a plane or disk. Many ancient cultures subscribed to a flat Earth cosmography, including Greece until the classical period, The Bronze Age and Iron Age civilizations of the Near East until the Hellenistic period, India until the Gupta period (early centuries AD), and China until the 17th century. That paradigm was also typically held in the aboriginal cultures of the Americas, and the notion of a flat Earth domed by the firmament in the shape of an inverted bowl was common in pre-scientific societies. The idea of a spherical Earth appeared in Greek philosophy with Pythagoras (6th century BC), although most pre-Socratics (6th – 5th century BC) retained the flat Earth model. Aristotle provided evidence for the spherical shape of the Earth on empirical grounds by around 330 BC. Knowledge of the spherical Earth gradually began to spread beyond the Hellenistic world from then on. in the 6th-century BC and Parmenides in the 5th-century stated that the Earth is spherical, the spherical view spread rapidly in the Greek world. Around 330 BC, Aristotle maintained on the basis of physical theory and observational evidence that the Earth was spherical, and reported on an estimate on the circumference. The Earth's circumference was first determined around 240 BC by Eratosthenes. By the second century AD, Ptolemy had derived his maps from a globe and developed the system of latitude, longitude, and climes. His Almagest was written in Greek and only translated into Latin in the 11th century from Arabic translations. The Terrestrial Sphere of Crates of Mallus (c. 150 BC) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F1%2F14%2FCrates_Terrestrial_Sphere.png%2F800px-Crates_Terrestrial_Sphere.png&t=665&c=_X9iMPb-DYgiqg) In the 2nd century BC, Crates of Mallus devised a terrestrial sphere that divided the Earth into four continents, separated by great rivers or oceans, with people presumed living in each of the four regions. Opposite the oikumene, the inhabited world, were the antipodes, considered unreachable both because of an intervening torrid zone ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F1%2F13%2FOrlando-Ferguson-flat-earth-map_edit.jpg%2F1280px-Orlando-Ferguson-flat-earth-map_edit.jpg&t=665&c=KJNHb2Mi03RVSQ) Flat Earth map drawn by Orlando Ferguson in 1893. The map contains several references to biblical passages as well as various jabs at the "Globe Theory".
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October 08, 2017, 05:01:18 PM |
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#1 - That's a fucking bowl, it's not flat; the Bible says God stretched a flat and level line across the Earth during its construction. -- Job 38:5 #2 - The Sun's rays don't hit the Earth in parallel, that's a theory breaking assumption that has to be made if one accepts Aristotle's evidence. You're a bowl.
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October 08, 2017, 05:15:31 PM |
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#1 - That's a fucking bowl, it's not flat; the Bible says God stretched a flat and level line across the Earth during its construction. -- Job 38:5 #2 - The Sun's rays don't hit the Earth in parallel, that's a theory breaking assumption that has to be made if one accepts Aristotle's evidence. Correction that was Eratosthenes not Aristotle.#2 - Aristotle used the curved mirror surface of the dome and projected his observation of the stars onto the Earth, this is the same bullshit trick used today with Earth geoid mapping.
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October 08, 2017, 07:33:27 PM |
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#1 - That's a fucking bowl, it's not flat; the Bible says God stretched a flat and level line across the Earth during its construction. -- Job 38:5
You're about as gravitationally compromised (dense) as they come. Did you ever see anyone stretch a measuring line across something? Look at the cross-country power lines. They sag, like a bowl. Your rendering of the Bible passage in Job doesn't have anything to do with flat. It has to do with God's ability, alone, to measure the earth, whatever its shape. Take a look at some of the Job versions of the passage you quote. No "flat" in them: New International Version Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it?
New Living Translation Who determined its dimensions and stretched out the surveying line?
English Standard Version Who determined its measurements—surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it?
New American Standard Bible Who set its measurements? Since you know. Or who stretched the line on it?
King James Bible Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
Holman Christian Standard Bible Who fixed its dimensions? Certainly you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it?
International Standard Version Who set its measurement? Am I to assume you know? Who stretched a boundary line over it?
NET Bible Who set its measurements--if you know--or who stretched a measuring line across it?
New Heart English Bible Who determined its measures, if you know? Or who stretched the line on it?
GOD'S WORD® Translation Who determined its dimensions? Certainly, you know! Who stretched a measuring line over it?
JPS Tanakh 1917 Who determined the measures thereof, if thou knowest? Or who stretched the line upon it?
New American Standard 1977 Who set its measurements, since you know? Or who stretched the line on it?
Jubilee Bible 2000 Who ordered its dimensions, if thou knowest? Or who has stretched the line upon it?
King James 2000 Bible Who has determined the measures thereof, if you know? or who has stretched the line upon it?
Read more at http://biblehub.com/job/38-5.htm.![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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October 08, 2017, 07:44:45 PM |
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#1 - That's a fucking bowl, it's not flat; the Bible says God stretched a flat and level line across the Earth during its construction. -- Job 38:5
You're about as gravitationally compromised (dense) as they come. Did you ever see anyone stretch a measuring line across something? Look at the cross-country power lines. They sag, like a bowl. Your rendering of the Bible passage in Job doesn't have anything to do with flat. It has to do with God's ability, alone, to measure the earth, whatever its shape. Take a look at some of the Job versions of the passage you quote. No "flat" in them: New International Version Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it?
New Living Translation Who determined its dimensions and stretched out the surveying line?
English Standard Version Who determined its measurements—surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it?
New American Standard Bible Who set its measurements? Since you know. Or who stretched the line on it?
King James Bible Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
Holman Christian Standard Bible Who fixed its dimensions? Certainly you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it?
International Standard Version Who set its measurement? Am I to assume you know? Who stretched a boundary line over it?
NET Bible Who set its measurements--if you know--or who stretched a measuring line across it?
New Heart English Bible Who determined its measures, if you know? Or who stretched the line on it?
GOD'S WORD® Translation Who determined its dimensions? Certainly, you know! Who stretched a measuring line over it?
JPS Tanakh 1917 Who determined the measures thereof, if thou knowest? Or who stretched the line upon it?
New American Standard 1977 Who set its measurements, since you know? Or who stretched the line on it?
Jubilee Bible 2000 Who ordered its dimensions, if thou knowest? Or who has stretched the line upon it?
King James 2000 Bible Who has determined the measures thereof, if you know? or who has stretched the line upon it?
Read more at http://biblehub.com/job/38-5.htm.![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Show me where does it say the dome was polarized before the water was removed? Without the polarization there is no up and down and nothing to push on God's stretched out measuring line.
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October 08, 2017, 07:57:24 PM |
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#1 - That's a fucking bowl, it's not flat; the Bible says God stretched a flat and level line across the Earth during its construction. -- Job 38:5
You're about as gravitationally compromised (dense) as they come. Did you ever see anyone stretch a measuring line across something? Look at the cross-country power lines. They sag, like a bowl. Your rendering of the Bible passage in Job doesn't have anything to do with flat. It has to do with God's ability, alone, to measure the earth, whatever its shape. Take a look at some of the Job versions of the passage you quote. No "flat" in them: New International Version Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it?
New Living Translation Who determined its dimensions and stretched out the surveying line?
English Standard Version Who determined its measurements—surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it?
New American Standard Bible Who set its measurements? Since you know. Or who stretched the line on it?
King James Bible Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
Holman Christian Standard Bible Who fixed its dimensions? Certainly you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it?
International Standard Version Who set its measurement? Am I to assume you know? Who stretched a boundary line over it?
NET Bible Who set its measurements--if you know--or who stretched a measuring line across it?
New Heart English Bible Who determined its measures, if you know? Or who stretched the line on it?
GOD'S WORD® Translation Who determined its dimensions? Certainly, you know! Who stretched a measuring line over it?
JPS Tanakh 1917 Who determined the measures thereof, if thou knowest? Or who stretched the line upon it?
New American Standard 1977 Who set its measurements, since you know? Or who stretched the line on it?
Jubilee Bible 2000 Who ordered its dimensions, if thou knowest? Or who has stretched the line upon it?
King James 2000 Bible Who has determined the measures thereof, if you know? or who has stretched the line upon it?
Read more at http://biblehub.com/job/38-5.htm.![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Show me where does it say the dome was polarized before the water was removed? Without the polarization there is no up and down and nothing to push on God's stretched out measuring line. Show me where the measuring line was a bungie cord. You can stretch anything unless it is elastic. The point? The meaning is that God does it in ways that people cannot fathom. It doesn't have anything to do with the shape. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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October 08, 2017, 08:05:49 PM |
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#1 - That's a fucking bowl, it's not flat; the Bible says God stretched a flat and level line across the Earth during its construction. -- Job 38:5
You're about as gravitationally compromised (dense) as they come. Did you ever see anyone stretch a measuring line across something? Look at the cross-country power lines. They sag, like a bowl. Your rendering of the Bible passage in Job doesn't have anything to do with flat. It has to do with God's ability, alone, to measure the earth, whatever its shape. Take a look at some of the Job versions of the passage you quote. No "flat" in them: New International Version Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it?
New Living Translation Who determined its dimensions and stretched out the surveying line?
English Standard Version Who determined its measurements—surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it?
New American Standard Bible Who set its measurements? Since you know. Or who stretched the line on it?
King James Bible Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
Holman Christian Standard Bible Who fixed its dimensions? Certainly you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it?
International Standard Version Who set its measurement? Am I to assume you know? Who stretched a boundary line over it?
NET Bible Who set its measurements--if you know--or who stretched a measuring line across it?
New Heart English Bible Who determined its measures, if you know? Or who stretched the line on it?
GOD'S WORD® Translation Who determined its dimensions? Certainly, you know! Who stretched a measuring line over it?
JPS Tanakh 1917 Who determined the measures thereof, if thou knowest? Or who stretched the line upon it?
New American Standard 1977 Who set its measurements, since you know? Or who stretched the line on it?
Jubilee Bible 2000 Who ordered its dimensions, if thou knowest? Or who has stretched the line upon it?
King James 2000 Bible Who has determined the measures thereof, if you know? or who has stretched the line upon it?
Read more at http://biblehub.com/job/38-5.htm.![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Show me where does it say the dome was polarized before the water was removed? Without the polarization there is no up and down and nothing to push on God's stretched out measuring line. Show me where the measuring line was a bungie cord. You can stretch anything unless it is elastic. The point? The meaning is that God does it in ways that people cannot fathom. It doesn't have anything to do with the shape. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Also how would you raise a dome without inflating it? My theory is God heated and softened the domes nickel-iron steel via magnetic induction and inflated the dome. When the magnetic flux was removed an electrically polarized reflective oxide layer was left on the interior of the domes hardened surface. I'll have to give it some thought as to what God used as a measuring line, whatever it was clearly had "tension". Tension is also used as a term for voltage from polarized surfaces and the electric field is linear in nature. God would defiantly have the most technologically advanced surveying equipment in existence.
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October 08, 2017, 08:13:43 PM |
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#1 - That's a fucking bowl, it's not flat; the Bible says God stretched a flat and level line across the Earth during its construction. -- Job 38:5
You're about as gravitationally compromised (dense) as they come. Did you ever see anyone stretch a measuring line across something? Look at the cross-country power lines. They sag, like a bowl. Your rendering of the Bible passage in Job doesn't have anything to do with flat. It has to do with God's ability, alone, to measure the earth, whatever its shape. Take a look at some of the Job versions of the passage you quote. No "flat" in them: New International Version Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it?
New Living Translation Who determined its dimensions and stretched out the surveying line?
English Standard Version Who determined its measurements—surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it?
New American Standard Bible Who set its measurements? Since you know. Or who stretched the line on it?
King James Bible Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
Holman Christian Standard Bible Who fixed its dimensions? Certainly you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it?
International Standard Version Who set its measurement? Am I to assume you know? Who stretched a boundary line over it?
NET Bible Who set its measurements--if you know--or who stretched a measuring line across it?
New Heart English Bible Who determined its measures, if you know? Or who stretched the line on it?
GOD'S WORD® Translation Who determined its dimensions? Certainly, you know! Who stretched a measuring line over it?
JPS Tanakh 1917 Who determined the measures thereof, if thou knowest? Or who stretched the line upon it?
New American Standard 1977 Who set its measurements, since you know? Or who stretched the line on it?
Jubilee Bible 2000 Who ordered its dimensions, if thou knowest? Or who has stretched the line upon it?
King James 2000 Bible Who has determined the measures thereof, if you know? or who has stretched the line upon it?
Read more at http://biblehub.com/job/38-5.htm.![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Show me where does it say the dome was polarized before the water was removed? Without the polarization there is no up and down and nothing to push on God's stretched out measuring line. Show me where the measuring line was a bungie cord. You can stretch anything unless it is elastic. The point? The meaning is that God does it in ways that people cannot fathom. It doesn't have anything to do with the shape. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Also how would you raise a dome without inflating it? My theory is God heated and softened the domes nickel-iron steel via magnetic induction and inflated the dome. When the magnetic flux was removed an electrically polarized reflective oxide layer was left on the interior of the domes hardened surface. I'll have to give it some thought as to what God used as a measuring line, whatever it was clearly had "tension". Tension is also used as a term for voltage from polarized surfaces and the electric field is linear in nature. God would defiantly have the most technologically advanced surveying equipment in existence. God uses things other than technology, even though He can use anything. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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October 08, 2017, 09:13:23 PM |
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#1 - That's a fucking bowl, it's not flat; the Bible says God stretched a flat and level line across the Earth during its construction. -- Job 38:5
You're about as gravitationally compromised (dense) as they come. Did you ever see anyone stretch a measuring line across something? Look at the cross-country power lines. They sag, like a bowl. Your rendering of the Bible passage in Job doesn't have anything to do with flat. It has to do with God's ability, alone, to measure the earth, whatever its shape. Take a look at some of the Job versions of the passage you quote. No "flat" in them: New International Version Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it?
New Living Translation Who determined its dimensions and stretched out the surveying line?
English Standard Version Who determined its measurements—surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it?
New American Standard Bible Who set its measurements? Since you know. Or who stretched the line on it?
King James Bible Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
Holman Christian Standard Bible Who fixed its dimensions? Certainly you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it?
International Standard Version Who set its measurement? Am I to assume you know? Who stretched a boundary line over it?
NET Bible Who set its measurements--if you know--or who stretched a measuring line across it?
New Heart English Bible Who determined its measures, if you know? Or who stretched the line on it?
GOD'S WORD® Translation Who determined its dimensions? Certainly, you know! Who stretched a measuring line over it?
JPS Tanakh 1917 Who determined the measures thereof, if thou knowest? Or who stretched the line upon it?
New American Standard 1977 Who set its measurements, since you know? Or who stretched the line on it?
Jubilee Bible 2000 Who ordered its dimensions, if thou knowest? Or who has stretched the line upon it?
King James 2000 Bible Who has determined the measures thereof, if you know? or who has stretched the line upon it?
Read more at http://biblehub.com/job/38-5.htm.![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Show me where does it say the dome was polarized before the water was removed? Without the polarization there is no up and down and nothing to push on God's stretched out measuring line. Show me where the measuring line was a bungie cord. You can stretch anything unless it is elastic. The point? The meaning is that God does it in ways that people cannot fathom. It doesn't have anything to do with the shape. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Also how would you raise a dome without inflating it? My theory is God heated and softened the domes nickel-iron steel via magnetic induction and inflated the dome. When the magnetic flux was removed an electrically polarized reflective oxide layer was left on the interior of the domes hardened surface. I'll have to give it some thought as to what God used as a measuring line, whatever it was clearly had "tension". Tension is also used as a term for voltage from polarized surfaces and the electric field is linear in nature. God would defiantly have the most technologically advanced surveying equipment in existence. God uses things other than technology, even though He can use anything. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) How could he use anything other than technology to engineer and build the Earth? Maybe you think God just made a giant wish and it came true?
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October 08, 2017, 10:00:24 PM |
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#1 - That's a fucking bowl, it's not flat; the Bible says God stretched a flat and level line across the Earth during its construction. -- Job 38:5
You're about as gravitationally compromised (dense) as they come. Did you ever see anyone stretch a measuring line across something? Look at the cross-country power lines. They sag, like a bowl. Your rendering of the Bible passage in Job doesn't have anything to do with flat. It has to do with God's ability, alone, to measure the earth, whatever its shape. Take a look at some of the Job versions of the passage you quote. No "flat" in them: New International Version Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it?
New Living Translation Who determined its dimensions and stretched out the surveying line?
English Standard Version Who determined its measurements—surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it?
New American Standard Bible Who set its measurements? Since you know. Or who stretched the line on it?
King James Bible Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
Holman Christian Standard Bible Who fixed its dimensions? Certainly you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it?
International Standard Version Who set its measurement? Am I to assume you know? Who stretched a boundary line over it?
NET Bible Who set its measurements--if you know--or who stretched a measuring line across it?
New Heart English Bible Who determined its measures, if you know? Or who stretched the line on it?
GOD'S WORD® Translation Who determined its dimensions? Certainly, you know! Who stretched a measuring line over it?
JPS Tanakh 1917 Who determined the measures thereof, if thou knowest? Or who stretched the line upon it?
New American Standard 1977 Who set its measurements, since you know? Or who stretched the line on it?
Jubilee Bible 2000 Who ordered its dimensions, if thou knowest? Or who has stretched the line upon it?
King James 2000 Bible Who has determined the measures thereof, if you know? or who has stretched the line upon it?
Read more at http://biblehub.com/job/38-5.htm.![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Show me where does it say the dome was polarized before the water was removed? Without the polarization there is no up and down and nothing to push on God's stretched out measuring line. Show me where the measuring line was a bungie cord. You can stretch anything unless it is elastic. The point? The meaning is that God does it in ways that people cannot fathom. It doesn't have anything to do with the shape. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Also how would you raise a dome without inflating it? My theory is God heated and softened the domes nickel-iron steel via magnetic induction and inflated the dome. When the magnetic flux was removed an electrically polarized reflective oxide layer was left on the interior of the domes hardened surface. I'll have to give it some thought as to what God used as a measuring line, whatever it was clearly had "tension". Tension is also used as a term for voltage from polarized surfaces and the electric field is linear in nature. God would defiantly have the most technologically advanced surveying equipment in existence. God uses things other than technology, even though He can use anything. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) How could he use anything other than technology to engineer and build the Earth? Maybe you think God just made a giant wish and it came true? You use all this wonderful ability to think, just to determine that the earth is flat, but you can't think about how God is way beyond technology? Consider simple cause and effect. Science knows that cause and effect plays a role in everything that they have discovered. The also know that they have not factually found anything that does not operate through cause and effect... although they have their guesses about some things. Knowing this, select an electron that was set in place in the beginning by God. God sent this electron out so that it reacts with other things in the universe... sorta like a pool shark hits that cue ball. That electron hits other material, and goes on to do whatever it is going to do next by bouncing off the other material, and making a change to the other material at the same time. Now, consider that God did that with countless chunks of material all over the universe, and with the energy waves, as well. Some thousands of years later, all this bumping around is still producing life in abundance, people in abundance, intelligence in abundance, emotion in abundance, and all kinds of other things in abundance. And you want to call this technology? Try throwing a handful of sand in the air and getting this kind of reactivity. It's so far beyond technology that technology is like a microbe in the microscope. Technology is something that man invented to try to make sense of the things that God made without technology. God is allowing us to have some success, a tiny, little bit. We aren't capable of understanding what God did and does. The closest that we can come is to listen to what He is telling us. The Job passage you mentioned says nothing about flat earth. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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October 09, 2017, 12:31:51 AM |
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How as an individual can I know if the Earth is a sphere or a flat disc? What experiment can I do that doesn't involve trusting information from a 3rd party that would prove what the geometry really is? https://i.imgur.com/O8IpMmi.jpgI have actually read an article that the earth is not really flat. And it is scientifically proven. Don't you see NASA's program where they capture pictures of EARTH from space? It's really a sphere but not a perfect one. It looks like a deformed sphere at all. Yes I see the liars and hoaxers at NASA and they're full of shitty CGI images. BTW do you have a reading comprehension problem? You still haven't explained how perspective stops lighting from reaching us when you claim the sun is so close, you always ignore things that you can't answer, why are you like this, you might have a real problem, go get checked bro.
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October 09, 2017, 10:40:22 AM |
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How's Flat earth bob getting on with his gofundme page lol
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October 09, 2017, 11:03:08 AM |
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Long time ago our ancestors believe that Earth is flat so no one dare to go to the farthest corner of earth.
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October 09, 2017, 04:05:00 PM |
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How as an individual can I know if the Earth is a sphere or a flat disc? What experiment can I do that doesn't involve trusting information from a 3rd party that would prove what the geometry really is? https://i.imgur.com/O8IpMmi.jpgI have actually read an article that the earth is not really flat. And it is scientifically proven. Don't you see NASA's program where they capture pictures of EARTH from space? It's really a sphere but not a perfect one. It looks like a deformed sphere at all. Yes I see the liars and hoaxers at NASA and they're full of shitty CGI images. BTW do you have a reading comprehension problem? You still haven't explained how perspective stops lighting from reaching us when you claim the sun is so close, you always ignore things that you can't answer, why are you like this, you might have a real problem, go get checked bro. I'm sorry that you believe the oncoming train is the light at the end of the tunnel.
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October 09, 2017, 04:10:50 PM |
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#1 - That's a fucking bowl, it's not flat; the Bible says God stretched a flat and level line across the Earth during its construction. -- Job 38:5
You're about as gravitationally compromised (dense) as they come. Did you ever see anyone stretch a measuring line across something? Look at the cross-country power lines. They sag, like a bowl. Your rendering of the Bible passage in Job doesn't have anything to do with flat. It has to do with God's ability, alone, to measure the earth, whatever its shape. Take a look at some of the Job versions of the passage you quote. No "flat" in them: New International Version Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it?
New Living Translation Who determined its dimensions and stretched out the surveying line?
English Standard Version Who determined its measurements—surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it?
New American Standard Bible Who set its measurements? Since you know. Or who stretched the line on it?
King James Bible Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
Holman Christian Standard Bible Who fixed its dimensions? Certainly you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it?
International Standard Version Who set its measurement? Am I to assume you know? Who stretched a boundary line over it?
NET Bible Who set its measurements--if you know--or who stretched a measuring line across it?
New Heart English Bible Who determined its measures, if you know? Or who stretched the line on it?
GOD'S WORD® Translation Who determined its dimensions? Certainly, you know! Who stretched a measuring line over it?
JPS Tanakh 1917 Who determined the measures thereof, if thou knowest? Or who stretched the line upon it?
New American Standard 1977 Who set its measurements, since you know? Or who stretched the line on it?
Jubilee Bible 2000 Who ordered its dimensions, if thou knowest? Or who has stretched the line upon it?
King James 2000 Bible Who has determined the measures thereof, if you know? or who has stretched the line upon it?
Read more at http://biblehub.com/job/38-5.htm.![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Show me where does it say the dome was polarized before the water was removed? Without the polarization there is no up and down and nothing to push on God's stretched out measuring line. Show me where the measuring line was a bungie cord. You can stretch anything unless it is elastic. The point? The meaning is that God does it in ways that people cannot fathom. It doesn't have anything to do with the shape. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Also how would you raise a dome without inflating it? My theory is God heated and softened the domes nickel-iron steel via magnetic induction and inflated the dome. When the magnetic flux was removed an electrically polarized reflective oxide layer was left on the interior of the domes hardened surface. I'll have to give it some thought as to what God used as a measuring line, whatever it was clearly had "tension". Tension is also used as a term for voltage from polarized surfaces and the electric field is linear in nature. God would defiantly have the most technologically advanced surveying equipment in existence. God uses things other than technology, even though He can use anything. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) How could he use anything other than technology to engineer and build the Earth? Maybe you think God just made a giant wish and it came true? You use all this wonderful ability to think, just to determine that the earth is flat, but you can't think about how God is way beyond technology? Consider simple cause and effect. Science knows that cause and effect plays a role in everything that they have discovered. The also know that they have not factually found anything that does not operate through cause and effect... although they have their guesses about some things. Knowing this, select an electron that was set in place in the beginning by God. God sent this electron out so that it reacts with other things in the universe... sorta like a pool shark hits that cue ball. That electron hits other material, and goes on to do whatever it is going to do next by bouncing off the other material, and making a change to the other material at the same time. Now, consider that God did that with countless chunks of material all over the universe, and with the energy waves, as well. Some thousands of years later, all this bumping around is still producing life in abundance, people in abundance, intelligence in abundance, emotion in abundance, and all kinds of other things in abundance. And you want to call this technology? Try throwing a handful of sand in the air and getting this kind of reactivity. It's so far beyond technology that technology is like a microbe in the microscope. Technology is something that man invented to try to make sense of the things that God made without technology. God is allowing us to have some success, a tiny, little bit. We aren't capable of understanding what God did and does. The closest that we can come is to listen to what He is telling us. The Job passage you mentioned says nothing about flat earth. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Stretch a measuring line across a sphere, for heavens sake no. God speaks of constriction and straight level lines he's not built a magic sphere with his mind, that's the devil that's gone and done that. You really need to piss off with you mythical magical bullshit, you're a crypto-jew!
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How as an individual can I know if the Earth is a sphere or a flat disc? What experiment can I do that doesn't involve trusting information from a 3rd party that would prove what the geometry really is? https://i.imgur.com/O8IpMmi.jpgI have actually read an article that the earth is not really flat. And it is scientifically proven. Don't you see NASA's program where they capture pictures of EARTH from space? It's really a sphere but not a perfect one. It looks like a deformed sphere at all. Yes I see the liars and hoaxers at NASA and they're full of shitty CGI images. BTW do you have a reading comprehension problem? You still haven't explained how perspective stops lighting from reaching us when you claim the sun is so close, you always ignore things that you can't answer, why are you like this, you might have a real problem, go get checked bro. I'm sorry that you believe the oncoming train is the light at the end of the tunnel. I'm sorry that you are comparing the lights from a train from the light from the sun, are you dumb? You cannot explain why the sun is not visible everywhere, you are a fraud.
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October 09, 2017, 06:29:56 PM |
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Oh, how I wish the Earth truly were flat.... Just to well and truly put the cat amongst the pigeons ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Is it not amazing? That in the sub-micro world of the atom, quantum physics requires the perpetual motion of particles with both spin and orbital motions. Yet in the macro world, mainstream science is based upon the law that a perpetual motion machine is absolutely impossible!
This is the embarrassing state of today's science...
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#1 - That's a fucking bowl, it's not flat; the Bible says God stretched a flat and level line across the Earth during its construction. -- Job 38:5
You're about as gravitationally compromised (dense) as they come. Did you ever see anyone stretch a measuring line across something? Look at the cross-country power lines. They sag, like a bowl. Your rendering of the Bible passage in Job doesn't have anything to do with flat. It has to do with God's ability, alone, to measure the earth, whatever its shape. Take a look at some of the Job versions of the passage you quote. No "flat" in them: New International Version Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it?
New Living Translation Who determined its dimensions and stretched out the surveying line?
English Standard Version Who determined its measurements—surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it?
New American Standard Bible Who set its measurements? Since you know. Or who stretched the line on it?
King James Bible Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
Holman Christian Standard Bible Who fixed its dimensions? Certainly you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it?
International Standard Version Who set its measurement? Am I to assume you know? Who stretched a boundary line over it?
NET Bible Who set its measurements--if you know--or who stretched a measuring line across it?
New Heart English Bible Who determined its measures, if you know? Or who stretched the line on it?
GOD'S WORD® Translation Who determined its dimensions? Certainly, you know! Who stretched a measuring line over it?
JPS Tanakh 1917 Who determined the measures thereof, if thou knowest? Or who stretched the line upon it?
New American Standard 1977 Who set its measurements, since you know? Or who stretched the line on it?
Jubilee Bible 2000 Who ordered its dimensions, if thou knowest? Or who has stretched the line upon it?
King James 2000 Bible Who has determined the measures thereof, if you know? or who has stretched the line upon it?
Read more at http://biblehub.com/job/38-5.htm.![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Show me where does it say the dome was polarized before the water was removed? Without the polarization there is no up and down and nothing to push on God's stretched out measuring line. Show me where the measuring line was a bungie cord. You can stretch anything unless it is elastic. The point? The meaning is that God does it in ways that people cannot fathom. It doesn't have anything to do with the shape. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Also how would you raise a dome without inflating it? My theory is God heated and softened the domes nickel-iron steel via magnetic induction and inflated the dome. When the magnetic flux was removed an electrically polarized reflective oxide layer was left on the interior of the domes hardened surface. I'll have to give it some thought as to what God used as a measuring line, whatever it was clearly had "tension". Tension is also used as a term for voltage from polarized surfaces and the electric field is linear in nature. God would defiantly have the most technologically advanced surveying equipment in existence. God uses things other than technology, even though He can use anything. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) How could he use anything other than technology to engineer and build the Earth? Maybe you think God just made a giant wish and it came true? You use all this wonderful ability to think, just to determine that the earth is flat, but you can't think about how God is way beyond technology? Consider simple cause and effect. Science knows that cause and effect plays a role in everything that they have discovered. The also know that they have not factually found anything that does not operate through cause and effect... although they have their guesses about some things. Knowing this, select an electron that was set in place in the beginning by God. God sent this electron out so that it reacts with other things in the universe... sorta like a pool shark hits that cue ball. That electron hits other material, and goes on to do whatever it is going to do next by bouncing off the other material, and making a change to the other material at the same time. Now, consider that God did that with countless chunks of material all over the universe, and with the energy waves, as well. Some thousands of years later, all this bumping around is still producing life in abundance, people in abundance, intelligence in abundance, emotion in abundance, and all kinds of other things in abundance. And you want to call this technology? Try throwing a handful of sand in the air and getting this kind of reactivity. It's so far beyond technology that technology is like a microbe in the microscope. Technology is something that man invented to try to make sense of the things that God made without technology. God is allowing us to have some success, a tiny, little bit. We aren't capable of understanding what God did and does. The closest that we can come is to listen to what He is telling us. The Job passage you mentioned says nothing about flat earth. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Stretch a measuring line across a sphere, for heavens sake no. God speaks of constriction and straight level lines he's not built a magic sphere with his mind, that's the devil that's gone and done that. You really need to piss off with you mythical magical bullshit, you're a crypto-jew! You are retarded enough to be debating against badecker which is a strong god believer, you both believe in god and you can't even agree on anything he did, the bible is full of shit, get over it and show real evidence.
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October 09, 2017, 11:23:03 PM Last edit: October 09, 2017, 11:39:51 PM by notbatman |
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How as an individual can I know if the Earth is a sphere or a flat disc? What experiment can I do that doesn't involve trusting information from a 3rd party that would prove what the geometry really is? https://i.imgur.com/O8IpMmi.jpgI have actually read an article that the earth is not really flat. And it is scientifically proven. Don't you see NASA's program where they capture pictures of EARTH from space? It's really a sphere but not a perfect one. It looks like a deformed sphere at all. Yes I see the liars and hoaxers at NASA and they're full of shitty CGI images. BTW do you have a reading comprehension problem? You still haven't explained how perspective stops lighting from reaching us when you claim the sun is so close, you always ignore things that you can't answer, why are you like this, you might have a real problem, go get checked bro. I'm sorry that you believe the oncoming train is the light at the end of the tunnel. I'm sorry that you are comparing the lights from a train from the light from the sun, are you dumb? You cannot explain why the sun is not visible everywhere, you are a fraud. You can't explain why the light at the end of the tunnel isn't visible throughout the entire length of a perfectly straight tunnel, if you could you'd have the answer you're looking for. You just fucking ignorant piece of crap, you're probably a shill and I don't appreciate the false accusation of dishonesty. You got anything else besides libel you turd? ... debating against badecker which is a strong god believer, ...
This is badecker's god, he doesn't believe in Jesus. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fz9Qp4Tt.jpg&t=665&c=UwIZCK3vncg55w)
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