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It doesn't seem like a very good idea to ignore too many people IMHO. You would run the risk of repeating something that someone else posted in the same thread which is generally frowned upon. Other users would have no way of knowing whether you did it to boost your post count or if you genuinely couldn't see their (the ignored user's) response since ignore lists aren't publicly viewable.
And it's not nice -- that's worse Only meanies with no sense of humor ignore people, I feel you Blind. Biz you say how you shouldn't have to many people ignored because you run the risk of repeating something someone else has already said! If you look at every thread on this forum and I mean every thread, you will see people must do a lot of frowning because it is all repeated sometimes with different wording but still repeating like a parrot on every thread.
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May 09, 2015, 10:06:24 AM Last edit: May 28, 2015, 10:55:54 AM by macsga |
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It doesn't seem like a very good idea to ignore too many people IMHO. You would run the risk of repeating something that someone else posted in the same thread which is generally frowned upon. Other users would have no way of knowing whether you did it to boost your post count or if you genuinely couldn't see their (the ignored user's) response since ignore lists aren't publicly viewable.
"Too many people", gratifies a personal opinion (in this case yours) against my initiative to post my ignore list in the public. Yes, the specific risk is there but it's an acceptable one; it's a common phrase: "don't quote the trolls". Other users? I don't follow. You mean provocable ones? Someone would've say the same for everybody with an ad campaign undersigned his posts. The point is that (and let me bold it, because it's the 3rd or 4th time I'm writing it): THE LIST IS NOT MANDATORYYou can choose to use it or not, you can choose to ignore the whole pack, or not. You can even choose NOT to be here in the first place. The reason I posted it is written in the OP and I'd indulge you to re-read it. Maybe you will find a noble cause there, like so many others did, instead of posting your (IMHO) prejudiced opinion "just to boost your post count" like you said. Besides, you can always say that I began as a troll here (I have been accused of that too). You may as well be right. Remember: The worst enemies of smoking are the ones who once were smokers. Cheers.
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May 09, 2015, 10:14:50 AM |
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It doesn't seem like a very good idea to ignore too many people IMHO. You would run the risk of repeating something that someone else posted in the same thread which is generally frowned upon. Other users would have no way of knowing whether you did it to boost your post count or if you genuinely couldn't see their (the ignored user's) response since ignore lists aren't publicly viewable.
And it's not nice -- that's worse Only meanies with no sense of humor ignore people, I feel you Blind. Biz you say how you shouldn't have to many people ignored because you run the risk of repeating something someone else has already said! If you look at every thread on this forum and I mean every thread, you will see people must do a lot of frowning because it is all repeated sometimes with different wording but still repeating like a parrot on every thread. The worse part is when you try reading a long thread to get some info about the price and all you get is irritating pictures of any kind of abnormality the human brain has ever came up with, instead of the info you want. This noise to signal ratio since NLC (don't fool ourselves, the list is all about him and his sockpuppets) came along has been boosted to enormous levels. Like I said, you can accuse me of anything and I will gladly take it (meanie, no sense of humor, etc). You can also help make this list better. You can also read my replies in this thread, many of your questions might as well been answered. Also remember: This list wouldn't be here if it wasn't necessary. But that means you wouldn't be able to post here as well... think about it.
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May 09, 2015, 10:59:00 AM Last edit: May 09, 2015, 11:16:46 AM by Bizmark13 |
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"Too many people", gratifies a personal opinion (in this case yours) against my initiative to post my ignore list in the public. Yes, the specific risk is there but it's an acceptable one; it's a common phrase: "don't quote the trolls". Other users? I don't follow. You mean provocable ones? Someone would've say the same for everybody with an ad campaign undersigned his posts. The point is that (and let me bold it, because it's the 3rd or 4th time I'm writing it):
To clarify, I was thinking along the lines of a situation where someone might post a question and some of the replies are from ignored users (possibly mixed in with non-ignored users). If I wanted to answer the thread starter's question and I had a large ignore list, I could either choose to submit an answer with the risk that others might think that I am parroting what has already been said (which I'm sure most people wouldn't think too positively of) or read the ignored users' posts which kind of defeats the purpose of having an ignore list. It's not a huge problem if most of my list consisted of trolls since they're not likely to contribute intelligently to discussions but a much more comprehensive list that encompasses a wider variety of users could eventually cause problems. I don't recognize any of the names in your list and it isn't very long so it's probably fine. DannyHamilton's list goes a bit too far in my opinion since it includes posters like redsn0w, bryant.coleman, and Muhammid Zakir who tend to make highly constructive posts and are an integral part of this community. Only meanies with no sense of humor ignore people, I feel you Blind. Biz you say how you shouldn't have to many people ignored because you run the risk of repeating something someone else has already said! If you look at every thread on this forum and I mean every thread, you will see people must do a lot of frowning because it is all repeated sometimes with different wording but still repeating like a parrot on every thread.
It's pretty common, yeah.
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May 09, 2015, 11:06:21 AM |
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It doesn't seem like a very good idea to ignore too many people IMHO. You would run the risk of repeating something that someone else posted in the same thread which is generally frowned upon. Other users would have no way of knowing whether you did it to boost your post count or if you genuinely couldn't see their (the ignored user's) response since ignore lists aren't publicly viewable.
And it's not nice -- that's worse Only meanies with no sense of humor ignore people, I feel you Blind. Biz you say how you shouldn't have to many people ignored because you run the risk of repeating something someone else has already said! If you look at every thread on this forum and I mean every thread, you will see people must do a lot of frowning because it is all repeated sometimes with different wording but still repeating like a parrot on every thread. The "parroting" is mostly done by those with a signature ad.
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May 09, 2015, 02:13:27 PM |
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To clarify, I was thinking along the lines of a situation where someone might post a question and some of the replies are from ignored users (possibly mixed in with non-ignored users). If I wanted to answer the thread starter's question and I had a large ignore list, I could either choose to submit an answer with the risk that others might think that I am parroting what has already been said (which I'm sure most people wouldn't think too positively of) or read the ignored users' posts which kind of defeats the purpose of having an ignore list. It's not a huge problem if most of my list consisted of trolls since they're not likely to contribute intelligently to discussions but a much more comprehensive list that encompasses a wider variety of users could eventually cause problems.
I don't recognize any of the names in your list and it isn't very long so it's probably fine. DannyHamilton's list goes a bit too far in my opinion since it includes posters like redsn0w, bryant.coleman, and Muhammid Zakir who tend to make highly constructive posts and are an integral part of this community.
This is why I keep a strict list instead of a more wide one. I've often been accused that this is a "bear" list. I can assure you; it's not. The main problem with adding a person that: a. Has a newbie account b. Posts vague and/or irrelevant things c. Kills his time against a known sockpuppet account, is that's not always clear. As I've stated before, I constantly update this list and move people out of it if they follow my 3 over 3 rule (ie: 3 out of 3 posts are not trolling). It's not THE golden rule, but surely kicks some people like BlindMayorBitcorn out of this list as he posted constructively for 3 times in a row, no matter if he was rude and offended me in one of his previous ones. Being provocative in a public forum is not tolerable. It feels safe, but it's not noble, nor sane. If you want to be provocative and offensive to someone, IMHO you should have the guts to look him in the eye when you do it and not from your couch comfort, behind a screen and a keyboard. Again, I'm not claiming the infallible. I know that someone can do this job better than me. If you're that specific someone, please make it happen and I will blindly follow. As a side note, I'd judge your comment of the chance missing some post as a collateral damage. Nevertheless, if that poster follows my 3-3 rule he will be probably out of the list sooner than that happens. Cheers.
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How to know that someone is a clone account or not
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How to know that someone is a clone account or not There's a very specific modus operandi. It usually becomes clear that it's the same person within a post or two. They use the same graphics, tactics and phraseology almost every time without fail.
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How to know that someone is a clone account or not With good judgement. Sometimes it's obvious, sometimes it's less obvious. The majority of the time you won't know. From my perspective there is nothing with alternate accounts. It gives people the freedom to give an opinion or view from a identity that isn't their 'main'. The accounts which are malcious are the ones that give themselves trust, spam etc. Whoever posts on an alternative account regular normally slips up eventually. You'll see blatent obvious ones which speak the same and use the same vocabulary and structure.
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May 11, 2015, 12:39:10 PM Last edit: May 11, 2015, 01:01:20 PM by LaudaM |
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This is why I keep a strict list instead of a more wide one. I've often been accused that this is a "bear" list. I can assure you; it's not. The main problem with adding a person that:
a. Has a newbie account b. Posts vague and/or irrelevant things c. Kills his time
against a known sockpuppet account, is that's not always clear. As I've stated before, I constantly update this list and move people out of it if they follow my 3 over 3 rule (ie: 3 out of 3 posts are not trolling). It's not THE golden rule, but surely kicks some people like BlindMayorBitcorn out of this list as he posted constructively for 3 times in a row, no matter if he was rude and offended me in one of his previous ones.
Being provocative in a public forum is not tolerable. It feels safe, but it's not noble, nor sane. If you want to be provocative and offensive to someone, IMHO you should have the guts to look him in the eye when you do it and not from your couch comfort, behind a screen and a keyboard. Again, I'm not claiming the infallible. I know that someone can do this job better than me. If you're that specific someone, please make it happen and I will blindly follow.
As a side note, I'd judge your comment of the chance missing some post as a collateral damage. Nevertheless, if that poster follows my 3-3 rule he will be probably out of the list sooner than that happens.
Cheers.
What is your stance in regards to bought accounts? Although some are decent, most of them deserve to be on the ignore list. They often write up nonsense, mostly because of being in a signature campaign. Update: I was asking if they go on the list as well?
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May 11, 2015, 12:57:00 PM |
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Thanks for your question. I don't have anything against a poster that is using a bought account in order to make some money, as long as he is not offensive or provocative to others.
I agree with you afaic the non-constructive posts of many posters but (thankfully) It's not my job to test their posts for quality. That's the job of the man/woman who runs the campaign.
Most of the serious campaigns here check their posters for constructive comments. If they don't comply they simply don't get paid. I bet that when this behavior becomes the new standard, we will have nothing to hold against a person who has an undersigned campaign under his posts.
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last updated list for alphabetical order ababab1 Ababab2 addmetoTHELIST AlmostThere881 Alt Accounts Unlimited And Toto 2? And Toto too? AnotherAccount? AnotherIgnore4u Anotherthing asda2 Ask Ken About Hate Ask Ken About Love Auntie Em Auntie EmXXX AWAKE!! Basta101 BITIsHere!!!! bitards BitcoinFan101 bitcointoda0 Blood Of The Lamb Boooooooooring bromide btcponzieeg BullTardLogic ButVentureCapitaaaaaaal BUY now SELL never Cassandra_PR CatFromhere43 Cattery Redux cEI14b cfdtm Chaosoahc ChildPr0nzUsers China! closed today Cloven Count Chocula ctnhc DecentralizeAllThePosts!! dfsdfs Dolores Haze DOX4BTC DoxThatTroll Ergodan Errydayrally EVOLUTION_A*D*M*I*N fakecovers Fanbx FatherBob Fawn 66 -- Bambi Reloaded Foilking fonzie ftftftt fuckoffstolfi Gentle Ben Glinda 3 GlindaX Gnppnx Going Greek Grizzliest Adams Grizzly Adams has a posse Hellomoon HemostatX Hfertig hgfhf885x hndgy Hpzew IDKwhatisgoinon indicabob Jammalan the Prophet JihadCoinz JohnPercent Julie Naaiers kenr12 LEOCoin Revolution luckygenough56 Mayer Amschel MightAsWellIgnore mmitech n00bjailnevergonnahappe NewbieJailIsBadMmkay? NewPoverty niiisj Not a cop not10kyet NotHatinAndNotEvenTrollin NotHatinJustTrollin NotLambchop oWLrAcEz Paranoia-meter ricmi rmbku RWeItc s_barhotski Salamanderer sAt0sHiFanClub screengrid Shameless! ShroomsKit Shtang SilenceOfTheLamb Silverspoon sishendaoye slowerloris SlowNinja smile_baby Son0fLamb Sponsored by sporket stepthroat stoick Surrender, Dorothy!!1! The Voice of Reason trelelel TulipMania Troll uderuser UnholyTrinity Uyfkk Wandererfromabroad Warren Buffert WECsvv Wicked Witch widd William Henry Gates XVn2xW Your other friend YourMother zyklonbob
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last updated list for alphabetical order <updated list>
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May 13, 2015, 09:36:56 PM Last edit: May 14, 2015, 01:58:39 PM by macsga |
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Sockpuppet's galore last night. I think I got them all. Please update your lists. Latest additions to The List as of 2015-05-14:Shameless! AWAKE!! Cloven Salamanderer Hpzew slowerloris
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May 17, 2015, 06:03:33 PM Last edit: May 17, 2015, 07:59:34 PM by macsga |
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Latest additions to The List as of 2015-05-17:DOX4BTC zyklonbob Sponsored by WECsvv
Four more in The List, please update.
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my last post updated for alphabetical order. i recommend all to use list. this really help for scammers.
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List updated with 2 more sockpuppets... Latest additions to The List as of 2015-05-21:atrocity shit coin
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May 27, 2015, 06:55:09 AM Last edit: May 28, 2015, 10:45:09 AM by macsga |
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After the short break of bitcointalk.org forum due to a hacker attack, it seems we're back in business (together with the sockpuppets). Three nailed down for the last couple of days. If you have something to add please be my guest. Don't forget to update. Latest additions to The List as of 2015-05-27:seveneyes Pooh wTg0co
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May 28, 2015, 10:46:31 AM |
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After observing his posts and certified passing my "3 over 3" rule, (ie: 3 posts without trolling / or 3 useful posts) I decided to remove him from The List. Removed from The List as of 2015-05-28:luckygenough56
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One of my all time favourite things to happen on this forum Hey macsga good work my friend, there is another obe just popped up in the Wall Observer Soec thread. Just giving you a heads up, we can't rest, they're creating socks all the time. We must stay vigiliant to remove them from our forum feed. Haha keep up the great service you're providing genuine bitcoin enthusiasts.
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