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May 28, 2011, 06:43:10 AM
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This happen often?
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May 28, 2011, 06:44:52 AM
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confirmed, they are off!

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May 28, 2011, 06:45:18 AM
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Strange..
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May 28, 2011, 06:49:29 AM
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Server mightave overloaded, but then it should've switched to backup, DDoS?
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May 28, 2011, 06:52:03 AM
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they are back! horay!

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May 28, 2011, 06:53:24 AM
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Yep, back.
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May 28, 2011, 09:51:47 AM
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Thankfully it didn't last long Smiley

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May 29, 2011, 10:14:13 PM
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Is deepbit offline again? Both my miners are not connecting, and when I visit deepbit I get this msg:

The page you are looking for is temporarily unavailable.
 Please try again later.
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May 29, 2011, 10:15:43 PM
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I guess so. They're out for me too.

I guess this goes to show ya -- better have accounts set up with more than one pool, so you don't waste valuable mining time.
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May 29, 2011, 10:25:39 PM
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deepbit is offline for me  Undecided

set my miners to mining.bitcoin.cz till they're back again.
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May 29, 2011, 10:31:22 PM
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Bet btc guild is going to get overloaded :P

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May 29, 2011, 10:31:47 PM
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Yep offline for me too Sad  Good time to change to swepool.

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May 29, 2011, 10:34:27 PM
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BTCMine, here we go!!!!!

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May 29, 2011, 10:48:04 PM
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there goes slushpool

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May 29, 2011, 10:50:09 PM
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Deepbit down,

Slush's website is reporting Bad Gateway, but mining still works.  Looks as if the website is getting hammered from people trying to switch.

Looks like its time to do some dust cleaning Tongue

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May 29, 2011, 10:53:04 PM
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http://kradminer.com works Cheesy

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May 29, 2011, 10:54:06 PM
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Slushs pool (the website) is also offline. But the mining still works. Got one accepted block since I cant reach the page any more.
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May 29, 2011, 11:04:50 PM
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well a ddos attack.. we could have expected this to happen sooner or later

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May 29, 2011, 11:05:13 PM
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Decided it was a good time to permanently switch my 1.7GH to BTCMine...  Wink  I wonder how much deepbit's overall pool will drop because of this downtime?
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May 29, 2011, 11:08:02 PM
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So far I have been happy using this pool. The only thing we need to know is who is DDOS attacking Deepbit and why?
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May 29, 2011, 11:09:04 PM
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Oh well, btcguild here we cum.

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May 29, 2011, 11:10:12 PM
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i like!

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May 29, 2011, 11:13:59 PM
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I just took my 1.2G hashes to BTC Guild.  So far so good. Smiley

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May 29, 2011, 11:20:11 PM
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Any guess on the major pools that make up OTHER?
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May 29, 2011, 11:21:37 PM
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Any guess on the major pools that make up OTHER?

Not pools.  Solo mining mostly I think.
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May 29, 2011, 11:22:36 PM
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no way most of other is slush and deepbit.
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May 29, 2011, 11:24:01 PM
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i wonder if deepbit being down will cause a huge difficulty decrease. if enough people don't switch there miners to different pools i could happen. 
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May 29, 2011, 11:26:04 PM
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it looks like the overall speed hasnt decreased much yet. so seems like most are staying on top of things.

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May 29, 2011, 11:30:46 PM
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i like!
slush down too?
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May 29, 2011, 11:35:57 PM
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yep.

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May 29, 2011, 11:37:18 PM
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slush down too?

The website is.  Miners are still getting work.

The interesting question is whether the parts that acknowledge that work and account for it are down with the website or if they are separate.

I was a few confirmations away from receiving a payout at Slush's pool.

I'm leaving the miners up until I see if that comes through or not.

EDIT: And just after posting this the website is back up.  The work of my miners was recorded during the website outage, and two blocks were found since the time of the last successful refresh.
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May 29, 2011, 11:37:38 PM
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I hope btcmine or any other pool wont be next
someone is really pissed ... or just bored.


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May 29, 2011, 11:38:59 PM
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perhaps a well equipped hacker or dos kiddie got sick of seeing bitcoin being monopolized.


It does not bother me one bit. my 1 g/hash + is happy over at btcmine.com
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May 29, 2011, 11:39:45 PM
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I hope btcmine or any other pool wont be next
someone is really pissed ... or just bored.



ya cause bidding pond is also down. maybe there were hoping to decrease the difficulty at least for a while
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May 29, 2011, 11:46:53 PM
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perhaps a well equipped hacker or dos kiddie got sick of seeing bitcoin being monopolized.


It does not bother me one bit. my 1 g/hash + is happy over at btcmine.com

mine was happy at deepbit, until it got attacked, so.. ;]

I hope pool owners will take some precautions now..
btw. how can one stop a ddos attack? or defend against it?

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May 29, 2011, 11:58:37 PM
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firewalls can be optimized and improved to prevent denial of service attacks, perhaps bitcoind could be improved a bit too to decipher good from bad tcp packets on port 8332
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May 30, 2011, 12:00:38 AM
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I see deepbit as down... now mining @ http://bitclockers.com/ up and running
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May 30, 2011, 12:16:13 AM
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It's a clever idea to DDOS the major pools in order to decrease difficulty.  However, is that sustainable?  A DDOS would have to continue for a day or more in order to impact difficulty, I'm guessing.  Can anyone provide some math to show how difficulty would be impacted by 50% of the miners were offline for 1 hour, 12 hours, 24 hours, 48 hours, etc?

After difficulty decreases, watch to see which major new miner or pool comes online.  Perhaps they were responsible.

I always thought an easier way to manipulate difficulty would be:  Legitimately take yourself offline, let difficulty decrease, then come back online to generate more coins at lower difficulty.  When difficulty raises, take yourself offline again.  An entire mining pool could do this.  Again, math would be needed to reveal the profitability of such a move.  Mining time lost while offline during high difficulty could be made up by increased profits while online during low difficulty?

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May 30, 2011, 12:28:19 AM
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It's a clever idea to DDOS the major pools in order to decrease difficulty.  However, is that sustainable?  A DDOS would have to continue for a day or more in order to impact difficulty, I'm guessing.  Can anyone provide some math to show how difficulty would be impacted by 50% of the miners were offline for 1 hour, 12 hours, 24 hours, 48 hours, etc?

That should not be a problem. Often, botnets are used to facilitate DDoS attacks. Since the infected computers are most likely spread all around the world, there will always be enough of them online to continue the attack.


After difficulty decreases, watch to see which major new miner or pool comes online.  Perhaps they were responsible.

Well, that would be too obvious. I don't think anyone would be this stupid, but I have underestimated people's stupidity before...


I always thought an easier way to manipulate difficulty would be:  Legitimately take yourself offline, let difficulty decrease, then come back online to generate more coins at lower difficulty.  When difficulty raises, take yourself offline again.  An entire mining pool could do this.  Again, math would be needed to reveal the profitability of such a move.  Mining time lost while offline during high difficulty could be made up by increased profits while online during low difficulty?

But why would you take yourself offline? Even if the increased profits during low-difficulty phases would make up for the profits lost while being offline, it would be more profitable to take out another pool. If another pool goes down, you still benefit from decreased difficulty, but you do not have to stop mining.
And since you can buy access to botnets, there just has to be somebody who is convinced that the additional bitcoins he creates will be worth more than the dollars he paid for the botnet. Or maybe he even paid for the botnet in bitcoins...


Anyway, I will check on deepbit tomorrow. Had my laptop mining for them and was less than 0.011 bitcoins away from payout Sad
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May 30, 2011, 12:32:38 AM
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I am happily mining @ Bitcoins.lc  Grin

If this leads to difficulty decrees, then AWESOME!

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May 30, 2011, 12:42:18 AM
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 You don't have to think that far ahead to realize that even if you get difficulty down for one retarget, it will bounce back with a vengeance when the network compensates with the retarget after that – with the lowered difficulty it would take very few days for the 2K blocks between those retargets to be generated, so there would not be much time to reap any great benefits from the attack.

Not that I would put it beyond anyone to try, but I think this is because someone has decided to prove the much-discussed point that having so much of the network's power tied to a few entities is a less than optimal for the health of bitcoin.

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May 30, 2011, 12:57:35 AM
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They were working fine earlier today... I hope they will be back up. Or if they could post some news? Anyone got any tweets or something from the official deepbit.net?
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May 30, 2011, 01:15:02 AM
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I did some posts on this situation in my thread and in IRC channels.

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May 30, 2011, 01:25:16 AM
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I did some posts on this situation in my thread and in IRC channels.
So whats the scoop?

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May 30, 2011, 01:36:42 AM
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Is anyone elses eyebrow a little cocked at the fact that "other" is  75% of hash distribution?(bitcoinwatch.com)  Do we think it is just solo miners or a secret pool of cia super computers trying to destroy the block chain?

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May 30, 2011, 01:37:08 AM
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You don't have to think that far ahead to realize that even if you get difficulty down for one retarget, it will bounce back with a vengeance when the network compensates with the retarget after that – with the lowered difficulty it would take very few days for the 2K blocks between those retargets to be generated, so there would not be much time to reap any great benefits from the attack.

What about the opposite attack?

Since people like to speculate about governments' displeasure with bitcoin, couldn't they play by the rules, add tons of hashing power to the network, get the difficulty sky-high and then just pack up their marbles and go home?

Block generation time then sky-rockets and thus the elapsed time until a difficulty reset.

Not that I think this scenario likely, but attack motivation may be more than directly economic.
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May 30, 2011, 01:41:25 AM
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Is anyone elses eyebrow a little cocked at the fact that "other" is  75% of hash distribution?(bitcoinwatch.com)  Do we think it is just solo miners or a secret pool of cia super computers trying to destroy the block chain?
Other is everything else that bitcoinwatch isn't directly getting hashrates from. Includes smaller/newer pools that haven't contacted bitcoinwatch to have their pool added yet, solo miners, and, at the moment, it's not calculating slush and deepbit because of various reasons.

There's at least 3 or 4 pools that have popped up recently that bitcoinwatch doesnt track, continuum, bitcoins.lc or whatever, and bitclockers to name a few. The site has no way of knowing about every pool in existence until those pool operators contact bitcoinwatch with a hashrate address for their pool.

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Is anyone elses eyebrow a little cocked at the fact that "other" is  75% of hash distribution?(bitcoinwatch.com)  Do we think it is just solo miners or a secret pool of cia super computers trying to destroy the block chain?

Thats a good point.

All this attention on deepbit, and their nearly half stake in the total hash rate.... not too many people seem to point out that "other" is just as big, and even more scary than deepbit. At least with the hash rate for deepbit, we know *who* that is.... "other" could be 90% 1 person as far as anybody knows.

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May 30, 2011, 01:49:26 AM
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Has a cyberwar just started or something?

While the pools are off, you guys are doing solo mining, right?   You don't just have your computers wait doing nothing, do you?
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Has a cyberwar just started or something?

While the pools are off, you guys are doing solo mining, right?   You don't just have your computers wait doing nothing, do you?
Solo mine if viable, or switch to a different pool until pool of preference is back and stable.

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May 30, 2011, 01:50:45 AM
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Eh? Slush mining pool has been up and serving work continuously. But the web front end is getting hammered hard.

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Has a cyberwar just started or something?

While the pools are off, you guys are doing solo mining, right?   You don't just have your computers wait doing nothing, do you?

Grondilu! I'm ashamed of you! You don't expect others to secure the network for you, do you?  Get your pick and get down and dirty with us!  Grin
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Has a cyberwar just started or something?

While the pools are off, you guys are doing solo mining, right?   You don't just have your computers wait doing nothing, do you?

Grondilu! I'm ashamed of you! You don't expect others to secure the network for you, do you?  Get your pick and get down and dirty with us!  Grin

You're kidding but it's a serious question you're asking.

I buy bitcoins so I support the market and thus give you some incentive to mine.  Isn't that good enough?
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Has a cyberwar just started or something?

While the pools are off, you guys are doing solo mining, right?   You don't just have your computers wait doing nothing, do you?

Grondilu! I'm ashamed of you! You don't expect others to secure the network for you, do you?  Get your pick and get down and dirty with us!  Grin

You're kidding but it's a serious question you're asking.

I buy bitcoins so I support the market and thus give you some incentive to mine.  Isn't that good enough?

Yeah, I'm just poking fun.  Smiley The French are poor miners anyway. Stick to grapes!
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Is anyone elses eyebrow a little cocked at the fact that "other" is  75% of hash distribution?(bitcoinwatch.com)  Do we think it is just solo miners or a secret pool of cia super computers trying to destroy the block chain?

Thats a good point.

All this attention on deepbit, and their nearly half stake in the total hash rate.... not too many people seem to point out that "other" is just as big, and even more scary than deepbit. At least with the hash rate for deepbit, we know *who* that is.... "other" could be 90% 1 person as far as anybody knows.

The reason I prefer pie charts over regular pies is the wonderful fact that even if I eat more than half the slices the rest of them will magically grow to make sure the pie chart dish always is full...

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You're kidding but it's a serious question you're asking.


Although from slush's thread, it looks like slush just went down as well. Maybe you want to hit the "Generate Coins" button, just in case!
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You're kidding but it's a serious question you're asking.


Although from slush's thread, it looks like slush just went down as well. Maybe you want to hit the "Generate Coins" button, just in case!

Nope, the mining pool is mostly up, though the website is mostly down.

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You're kidding but it's a serious question you're asking.


Although from slush's thread, it looks like slush just went down as well. Maybe you want to hit the "Generate Coins" button, just in case!

Nope, the mining pool is mostly up, though the website is mostly down.

I see. The last two posts in his thread say mining is down as well. I just assumed they were correct.
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Is anyone elses eyebrow a little cocked at the fact that "other" is  75% of hash distribution?(bitcoinwatch.com)  Do we think it is just solo miners or a secret pool of cia super computers trying to destroy the block chain?

Thats a good point.

All this attention on deepbit, and their nearly half stake in the total hash rate.... not too many people seem to point out that "other" is just as big, and even more scary than deepbit. At least with the hash rate for deepbit, we know *who* that is.... "other" could be 90% 1 person as far as anybody knows.

The reason I prefer pie charts over regular pies is the wonderful fact that even if I eat more than half the slices the rest of them will magically grow to make sure the pie chart dish always is full...

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Even before today, "other" was approximately equal in size to deepbit.

Do you know each and every entity that comprises "other"? Nope, neither do I.

So, all I was saying is that people are so focused on deepbit getting close to this magical 51% number, while "other" is a non-negligible chunk of the network. And, unlike deepbit, "other" could be largely composed of a single person or legal entity with malicious intentions, as far as anyone knows.

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I see. The last two posts in his thread say mining is down as well. I just assumed they were correct.

my miner was down. Diable kept repeating "unable to connect"....

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May 30, 2011, 02:24:39 AM
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does anyone think this outage will drive the price of btc up. Since i assume all of us have btc in our deepbit account that has not been paid yet that will decrease the amount of coins that will go to market to sell decreasing supply. at least in the short term, and it is possible that we will not get the coins for a long time if not ever.
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The reason I prefer pie charts over regular pies is the wonderful fact that even if I eat more than half the slices the rest of them will magically grow to make sure the pie chart dish always is full...

 Wink

Even before today, "other" was approximately equal in size to deepbit.

Do you know each and every entity that comprises "other"? Nope, neither do I.

So, all I was saying is that people are so focused on deepbit getting close to this magical 51% number, while "other" is a non-negligible chunk of the network. And, unlike deepbit, "other" could be largely composed of a single person or legal entity with malicious intentions, as far as anyone knows.

Just pointing out that at the moment "other" looks about as large as I would expect it to be after you take deepbit and slush out of the stats. And I also know that there are several known entities that don't have their own slices, including a few smaller pools that are on the forums, the xkcd and reddit pools, and a bunch of solo miners with multi-gigahash setups.

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May 30, 2011, 02:26:29 AM
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does anyone think this outage will drive the price of btc up. Since i assume all of us have btc in our deepbit account that has not been paid yet that will decrease the amount of coins that will go to market to sell decreasing supply. at least in the short term, and it is possible that we will not get the coins for a long time if not ever.

I know there are reasons for people leaving a lot of btc in their deepbit accounts, but im sure most people have the default payout at 10 or even less.

Frankly, I think it's stupid to leave your btc there
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Never again gonna give a shit about which pools I get into,  Solo FTW. !!!

I suggest you do the same to protect the network.
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Never again gonna give a shit about which pools I get into,  Solo FTW. !!!

I suggest you do the same.

lol... with my amazing 85 megahash/sec I'd totally NOT find a block  Grin

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Never again gonna give a shit about which pools I get into,  Solo FTW. !!!

I suggest you do the same.

lol... with my amazing 85 megahash/sec I'd totally NOT find a block  Grin
Could theoretically find one on your first hash Tongue

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Never again gonna give a shit about which pools I get into,  Solo FTW. !!!

I suggest you do the same.

lol... with my amazing 85 megahash/sec I'd totally NOT find a block  Grin
Could theoretically find one on your first hash Tongue

I could also, theoretically, die of old age before I find one Tongue Grin

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Never again gonna give a shit about which pools I get into,  Solo FTW. !!!

I suggest you do the same.

lol... with my amazing 85 megahash/sec I'd totally NOT find a block  Grin

Think long term buddy,  the downside is that you end up losing time every time you check if you've won a block.
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Never again gonna give a shit about which pools I get into,  Solo FTW. !!!

I suggest you do the same.

lol... with my amazing 85 megahash/sec I'd totally NOT find a block  Grin

Think long term buddy,  the downside is that you end up losing time every time you check if you've won a block.


Speaking of long term...

Since slush is down, I switched over to BTC Guild... 0% fees.... assuming I was a jack ass and didn't want to donate to BTC Guild.... wouldn't their 0% fee statistically be identically payout to solo mining, just levelized?

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You won't get transaction fees from a pool, at least not yet. But transaction fees are still so miniscule this early in bitcoins life. Also, "from a pool" might not be accurate, since I'm not sure if any of the newer pools that have popped up payout transaction fees too yet.

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I'm surprised bitcoinpool.com isn't in those charts, there running at around 130 ghashes/s atm.
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deepbit was back up up for a few minutes, but is back down again.
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Never again gonna give a shit about which pools I get into,  Solo FTW. !!!

I suggest you do the same.

lol... with my amazing 85 megahash/sec I'd totally NOT find a block  Grin

Think long term buddy,  the downside is that you end up losing time every time you check if you've won a block.


Speaking of long term...

Since slush is down, I switched over to BTC Guild... 0% fees.... assuming I was a jack ass and didn't want to donate to BTC Guild.... wouldn't their 0% fee statistically be identically payout to solo mining, just levelized?

yes if your not paying a fee then pooled mining would be just like solo mining without having to wait for the full 50.

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deepbit was back up up for a few minutes, but is back down again.
yes, it`s back down... Cry
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Its back up, but payout isn't working...
Edit: I also can't change my payment address
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The upside to deepbit dying is that the chain isn't so heavily dominated by one pool anymore. The more smaller pools there are the better.
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The upside to deepbit dying is that the chain isn't so heavily dominated by one pool anymore. The more smaller pools there are the better.
I dont think it will die, just like how Slush's pool didnt die when it went down
Just get smaller.

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right now deep bit is saying it has 0 gh/s. that has to be some kind of error
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right now deep bit is saying it has 0 gh/s. that has to be some kind of error

Might be down again while he fixes payouts.
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Everything seems to be working now, but pool hash rate is down to 680GH/s.  It'll be interesting to see how much it recovers to original numbers.
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does anyone think this outage will drive the price of btc up.

It damn well ought to.  From a business perspective, anyone mining with one of the affected pools (regardless of their reasoning) had their cost of doing business go up severely (akin to breakage/spillage/etc. from a manufacturer's perspective).  Those outages, from my vantage point, have affected operations for a quarter to half of a day.  Said another way, a quarter to a half of a day's production has been lost by people using those pools.  Furthermore, difficulty is such that it is statistically unfeasible for those miners to have switched their hardware over to solo mining, as you can't make up the difference in half a day assuming an average mining setup (average in my mind is 1 or 2 GH/sec).  Even if you had (what I consider to be) an "above average" setup with 15 Ghash/sec or so, your average block generation time running solo is still a day or more.  So yes it should drive the price up.

Although your question was not should it, but will it.  The problem is miners are essentially kids.  Note that I didn't say minors, I said kids.  As in, someone with the mentality of a child.  That's the only way to explain the kind of irrational exuberance that you see with people dumping gobs of money into mining.  It looks like the kiddies will continue to sell their bitcoins at the severely undervalued price of $8.30ish.  I say severely undervalued because I believe bitcoins will go to $1000 in 2 or 3 years, and the kiddies will realize they could've been millionaires by holding on to what they minted with spare video cards and free electricity in mom's basement.  I can't help but think of the story of Easu, the guy who sold his birthright for a bowl of soup.  But I digress..
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Lol @ Esau.


You can definitely tell that deepbit went offline by looking at the difficulty charts.  Wink


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It damn well ought to.
Yup, keep trying to drive up the price of Bitcoins.  You'll have to sling a lot of propaganda to make them worth $1000 though.

"Cost of doing business" was minimally impacted with Deepbit and slush's pool offline.  Miners simply switched to a new, unaffected pool, even if temporarily.  Nobody in their right mind would try solo mining when they can easily join a new pool for a consistent pay out.

An easier way to drive up the value of Bitcoin is to educate new users about it and offer compelling products/services for sale, creating a market where Bitcoins can have actual value.  Or set up a money laundering operation.  That'll get your $1000 valuation, guaranteed.

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Nobody in their right mind would try solo mining when they can easily join a new pool for a consistent pay out.
/meaningless/

Note : Payout was not so consistent in the last hours for those in a pool.
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Getting a lot of "Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC", even though the site seems to be up and everyone else says it's working.
I'm also seeing a much lower hashrate on the site than I should be.

Is it just me or is the site still fritzing?

Edit:
Doesn't seem to be happening with any other pools so I'll just assume it's a problem on their end.
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Getting a lot of "Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC", even though the site seems to be up and everyone else says it's working.
I'm also seeing a much lower hashrate on the site than I should be.

Is it just me or is the site still fritzing?

Edit:
Doesn't seem to be happening with any other pools so I'll just assume it's a problem on their end.

getting it too and i think its killing my hash rate im 1/2 the avg i was be for this mess
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why I always have the “Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC”  problem? Huh

what‘s the bitcoin RPC used for?

is it only used for computing the average speed in last 10 minutes?

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Well, RPC connection problem refers to problem communication with your pool. It loss of data occured when your miner send result of his work, there is a chance, that work is wasted. I am not sure wich miners engines failsave in that situation.

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May 30, 2011, 08:56:34 AM
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You can definitely tell that deepbit went offline by looking at the difficulty charts.  Wink
Yes and IMHO this is a good sign - it shows that non-professional miners still make up for a large part of the hashing power. It seems mining is not yet as monopolized as I had thought.

I hope it will stay that way because that's very good for the bitcoin ecosystem.

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Deepbit's hashing power is now 1251 GH/s.  I think it was around 1600GH/s before the downtime.  So about 22% of people moved on to other pools?
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0% proportional fee for a few days, I like!!!!!


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0% proportional fee for a few days, I like!!!!!



Gee, how many pools have had this for ages now? 
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Oh, I completely missed this thread. Yes, my pool was DDoSed - around 100Mbit/s of incomming traffic between 2am - 4am UTC. Then it went back to normal operation.

Btw Bitcoincharts.com is using hashrate from pools websites to draw chart. So when website is down/DDoSed and Bitcoincharts show zero % of some pool, that does not necessary mean that all pool hashpower is gone...

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0% proportional fee for a few days, I like!!!!!



Gee, how many pools have had this for ages now? 

Ya, but their payout is not as high

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Btw Bitcoincharts.com is using hashrate from pools websites to draw chart. So when website is down/DDoSed and Bitcoincharts show zero % of some pool, that does not necessary mean that all pool hashpower is gone...
Wish more people would understand that  Wink

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0% proportional fee for a few days, I like!!!!!



Gee, how many pools have had this for ages now? 

Ya, but their payout is not as high

Are you on drugs?
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DDOS again.

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0% proportional fee for a few days, I like!!!!!



Gee, how many pools have had this for ages now? 

Ya, but their payout is not as high

Are you on drugs?

Are you?

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0% proportional fee for a few days, I like!!!!!



Gee, how many pools have had this for ages now?  

Ya, but their payout is not as high

Are you on drugs?

Are you?

Mining on BTCMine (0% fee) for 24 hours = 1.17 BTC
Mining on Deepbit for 24 hours, during the 0% fee period = 1.55 BTC

So one pool had better luck than the other pool? ok
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24 hours is not enough time to determine whether one pool is "better" than another. You need at least 72 hours. Maybe a week if it's a newer pool (presuming the new pool is stable).

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0% proportional fee for a few days, I like!!!!!



Gee, how many pools have had this for ages now? 

Ya, but their payout is not as high

Are you on drugs?

Are you?

Mining on BTCMine (0% fee) for 24 hours = 1.17 BTC
Mining on Deepbit for 24 hours, during the 0% fee period = 1.55 BTC
I had almost 5 BTC for a 24 hr period from BTCMine.  With deepbit, the most I saw at the current difficulty level was 4.45 BTC.

*shrug*

YMMV.
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Some pools get "lucky" on certain days.  Statistically it's just not possible for one pool to consistently "pay more", all things being equal.
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0% proportional fee for a few days, I like!!!!!



Gee, how many pools have had this for ages now?  

Ya, but their payout is not as high

Are you on drugs?

Are you?

Mining on BTCMine (0% fee) for 24 hours = 1.17 BTC
Mining on Deepbit for 24 hours, during the 0% fee period = 1.55 BTC

So one pool had better luck than the other pool? ok

I don't know about you, but personally I want to mine on the pool with the highest payout.

I have factual evidence that deepbit pays out higher, while you are just here arguing that the pool is "luckier." Alright.

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I add another me 2 to the chorus.

 ERROR: Can't connect to Bitcoin: Server redirected too many  times


that's what I get for my troubles Sad...


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0% proportional fee for a few days, I like!!!!!



Gee, how many pools have had this for ages now?  

Ya, but their payout is not as high

Are you on drugs?

Are you?

Mining on BTCMine (0% fee) for 24 hours = 1.17 BTC
Mining on Deepbit for 24 hours, during the 0% fee period = 1.55 BTC

So one pool had better luck than the other pool? ok

Oh also, since BTCMine has a 0% fee then why isn't EVERYONE mining on BTCMine? Because other pools have a higher payout (deepbit, in this case).

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I add another me 2 to the chorus.

 ERROR: Can't connect to Bitcoin: Server redirected too many  times


that's what I get for my troubles :(...
There is a little problem with DiabloMiner - it triggers the DDoS protection.
This will be fixed when i'll switch to another one. Other miners are working.

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0% proportional fee for a few days, I like!!!!!



Gee, how many pools have had this for ages now?  

Ya, but their payout is not as high

Are you on drugs?

Are you?

Mining on BTCMine (0% fee) for 24 hours = 1.17 BTC
Mining on Deepbit for 24 hours, during the 0% fee period = 1.55 BTC

So one pool had better luck than the other pool? ok

Oh also, since BTCMine has a 0% fee then why isn't EVERYONE mining on BTCMine? Because other pools have a higher payout (deepbit, in this case).
0% fees = 100% payout.   Roll Eyes

Deepbit pays out more than 100%, but less than 103% (101% to 102.7%), so it's still not as good as a 0%, straight-forward pool, statistically.
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I don't know about you, but personally I want to mine on the pool with the highest payout.

I have factual evidence that deepbit pays out higher, while you are just here arguing that the pool is "luckier." Alright.

You don't understand variance. That's OK, some do.
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Mining on BTCMine (0% fee) for 24 hours = 1.17 BTC
Mining on Deepbit for 24 hours, during the 0% fee period = 1.55 BTC

So one pool had better luck than the other pool? ok

I don't know about you, but personally I want to mine on the pool with the highest payout.

I have factual evidence that deepbit pays out higher, while you are just here arguing that the pool is "luckier." Alright.

I don't think you understand how the Bitcoin system works. In some 24 hour periods on BTCmine I will make double what I would have made on Deepbit. This is simply due to variance.

EDIT - rezin777 beat me to it
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May 31, 2011, 06:55:34 PM
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Offline again!

1:55 PM CDT

This time even the website's toast.

Good thing I have a backup pool -- and that I work from home so I noticed it after I got 0 hashes/s for 15 minutes!
15 minutes is bad, but a few hours would be worse!
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GAH!!! Smiley
 I am down here as well, and I cant access my rig since I forgot to set the IP as static, and of course it grabs another one while I am here at work so the SSH I had setup in my firewall is no worky.   So I will be SOL until I get home to switch it over to my backup pool.
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GAH!!! Smiley
 I am down here as well, and I cant access my rig since I forgot to set the IP as static, and of course it grabs another one while I am here at work so the SSH I had setup in my firewall is no worky.   So I will be SOL until I get home to switch it over to my backup pool.

http://www.dyndns.com/

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May 31, 2011, 07:10:20 PM
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As of 12:08 PM (actually the last 12 minutes):

pit.deepbit.net (72.8.190.23) not pingable from two different networks
website also appears to be down.


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pit.deepbit.net back up.
I am going to switch to another pool for a while, while deepbit gets its network back on line.


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GAH!!! Smiley
 I am down here as well, and I cant access my rig since I forgot to set the IP as static, and of course it grabs another one while I am here at work so the SSH I had setup in my firewall is no worky.   So I will be SOL until I get home to switch it over to my backup pool.

http://www.dyndns.com/

You're welcome Cool

Well, I personally use www.no-ip.com since dyndns.com left a bad taste several years back.   But dynamic DNS wont fix my problem.  Since this new ubuntu install is DHCP, everytime i reboot it, my freaking router assigns it a different IP.  I forgot to change it to static.  I have port forwarding setup on my router to forward a certain port to that specific IP for SSH.   If DHCP hands the machine a different IP, my port forwarding rules no worky.  lack of sleep and to many beers this weekend left my mind in a fog, and I didnt think to set ubuntus IP static. LOL.
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Now Slush's website is down.
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Now Slush's website is down.


It was down for a moment because of migration to better server. Now it should be stable and much faster.

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^ Trying to steal forum accounts. Do not login at that address.
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^ Trying to steal forum accounts. Do not login at that address.
What address?  Who are you talking about?
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slush is stealing peoples info dont use his pool this one is the safist imo
fail
Looks like you're the one trying to steal people's info, not slush...
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slush is stealing peoples info dont use his pool this one is the safist imo
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Looks like you're the one trying to steal people's info, not slush...
That was the link I originally was referencing.
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seems like deepbit is offline again... 
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Im still up here. Just checked all the workers on my rig and I am hashing as we speak.
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seems like deepbit is offline again...
No, it's not. You can check the pie chart here: http://bitcoinwatch.com

If you experience any connection problems, please tell me your IP address and try to traceroute to deepbit.net so we can see where it's blocked.

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I may have to rescind my statement. Something is going on.  My rig is still running and computing hashes without any problems.  I even restarted the miners just to be sure, but all of my stats on deepbit.net account page is showing them as dead and not receiving any shares.  
Looks like I am switching over to BTCGuild full time after this.
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Hey Tycho,
Do you want to check mine out? for some reason my account page is showing my miners as inactive, even though they are getting work and hashing.
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Hmmm, it's down for me too right now.  The pool rate says "0" right now.
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I may have to rescind my statement. Something is going on.  My rig is still running and computing hashes without any problems.  I even restarted the miners just to be sure, but all of my stats on deepbit.net account page is showing them as dead and not receiving any shares.  
Looks like I am switching over to BTCGuild full time after this.

I realized about 10 minutes ago this was happening to me as well. I was hashing away but the site wasn't showing any shares being generated by me and even ended up showing my worker being inactive. I switched pools. Now it looks like deepbit's pool hashing power is at 0, down again I guess?

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I just checked and although they seem to still be mining I have the following for my 400Mh/s, probably not right

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Pool rate: 0 Gh/s
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I see this problem now, working on it.

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Tycho to the rescue.

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cool - seems to be working for me now.   Smiley
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Is there someone who still can't reach the website ?

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Is there someone who still can't reach the website ?
i can reach it, but my stats missing some shares, while stats page was showing 0% for me, i clearly sow guiminer reported accepted shares, i keep reloading profile stats page, but those shares are lost somewhere.  every other time i've tried reloading page after seeing shares added in guiminer it always showed increased number on the site in the past.
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I sent a payment of 1.67 BTC to my wallet and only received partial credit for it.
When I go into my payment history, it shows that it was processed, but when I click on the date to see the blockexplorer data, it comes back as invalid. 
Tycho, should I send this transaction data to you?
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I sent a payment of 1.67 BTC to my wallet and only received partial credit for it.
When I go into my payment history, it shows that it was processed, but when I click on the date to see the blockexplorer data, it comes back as invalid. 
Tycho, should I send this transaction data to you?
What is a "partial credit" ?
If the data in payments table is correct then you should receive this payment (may take some time to be confirmed).

Blockexplorer can show it only after the transaction is included in some block.

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I requested the payout a while ago, but I will check again in the morning.
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I requested the payout a while ago, but I will check again in the morning.
I see 3 payouts of 1.67 BTC in last days and they all are already delivered.
Are you sure that all the blockchain is downloaded by your client ?

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wow this is weird are ISP's starting to block deepbit?? I can check my stuff on my phone 3G but none of my computers will connect to the web site nor the server.
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wow this is weird are ISP's starting to block deepbit?? I can check my stuff on my phone 3G but none of my computers will connect to the web site nor the server.

I don't think anyone's blocking deepbit.  Rather, deepbit is blocking people, probably part of some DoS protection scheme.  One of my miners is blocked as well.

I'm not quite sure why none of Bitcoin's "critical infrastructure" employs a vast network of proxies, rather than "DoS protection" which is usually problematic.
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All working fine for my worker, and transactions Smiley I was gonna create a worker for each miner (Cool, but I think I'll leave it, as it is working nicely.

So, Deepbit is now safe guarded against DDoS attacks ?

Someone on another thread mentioned taking down a certain pool via DDoS means, obviously this one, which would kind of annoy me, seeing as most of my miners use this pool. I've also got some on BTC Guild. If one pool is down then at least some of my miners are working Smiley

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wow this is weird are ISP's starting to block deepbit?? I can check my stuff on my phone 3G but none of my computers will connect to the web site nor the server.

FWIW I am experiencing the same issue.  I don't think it has anything to do with ISP blocking and more to do with some form of DDoS protection.
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 Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
I'm getting that on some of my miners - not all just the ones that I want to work  Sad

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this is getting really old really fast...... i still can't connect and its almost been 24hrs........
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I have 2 of my miners (on two different Internet IPs) still blocked.  Such a shame too, I like deepbit better than any of the other pools I've looked at.
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Please, check my thread instead of this one.
I'm not updating all the threads, sorry.

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[btw. how can one stop a ddos attack? or defend against it?]

I have a script I use on all my major websites to prevent a DDoS attack. Basically it forwards flooding connections to fbi.gov the issue usually...well resolves itself.
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I'm getting:

Windows cannot find '--host=pit.deepbit.net". Make sure you typed the name correctly, and then try again.

What am I doing wrong? Or is Deepbit stuffed?

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I'm getting:
Windows cannot find '--host=pit.deepbit.net". Make sure you typed the name correctly, and then try again.
What am I doing wrong? Or is Deepbit stuffed?
I gave you a complete answer in my thread. Why don't you want to read it ?

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