EvilPanda (
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=134217) - organizer of shill campaign (not talking about the sig campaign), critic extortion collaborator, dedicated to silencing GAW critics at all costs.
Juicier parts are in bold.
Subject: Re: daily report
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 10:30:36 -0400
From: Josh Garza <
josh@gaw.com>
To: EP <
xoanek@o2.pl>
Send your goons in to help pls
On Wednesday, August 13, 2014, EP <
xoanek@o2.pl <mailto:xoanek@o2.pl>>
wrote:
Hit up all the threads publicly
Contact each person through pm
Do what ever it takes to make them happy
Then get them to go delete modify old response
Very important, let me know if you need help
On Wednesday, August 13, 2014, Amber Messer <
amber@gawminers.com> wrote:
I am on it. Smiley
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Josh Garza <
josh@gaw.com> wrote:
I need you front and center on these today. They are getting out of control. Please stay on them
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From: EP <
xoanek@o2.pl>
Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2014
Subject: daily report
To:
josh@gaw.com There's a number of live threads about GAW at the moment. We have a lot of people posting good things there, but there are also people doing the opposite.
I'm doing my best to balance it.
The recent increase in the negativity may have something to do with our friend waldohoover, who is a friend of reactor. You did a good job suppressing them but i'm almost certain they are still working against you on the forum.
One of the last messages by reactor was that you threatened his business associate, this might have been mr. hoover.
He recently made a new account and is advertising his business , which is a mining store and hosting company.
http://www.coiningsolutions.com/shop/ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=728773.new#new He's doing exactly the same thing as you just on a smaller scale, so the newbie accounts writing crap about you might belong to him or his friend reactor, as they can't use their own accounts to attack you.
Here's a thread where someone asked about you, one troll came and immediately said not to buy from you while another posted links to hoover's site.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=736291.msg8329414#msg8329414 There's a guy here asking if you will give refunds for people who ordered SP30 before the specs changed.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731537.msg8327733#msg8327733 And of course the thread I gave you yesterday, we have our people posting positive comments there, if it goes hot again we'll react.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731771.40 All over the forums people are worried about decreasing profits from mining. Someone in the genesis thread posted this graph:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602022.msg8328623#msg8328623 New hosting company offering bitcoin contracts backed by silver.
Right now they are using KNC hardware, I asked about it and they said they won't buy from them. They are planning to buy some directly from China.
Maybe you could strike a deal and supply their data center if you could offer them a good contract.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=732733.msg8330882#msg8330882 KNC changed the Titan photo on their site. The miner looks similar to Neptune ( same case) and completely different from what they advertised.
They either have them in stock and the photo is real or just repainted one of the Neptunes Cheesy
https://www.kncminer.com/categories/litecoin-mining-hardware AMT still trying to wholesale their miners despite scamming people on preorders and not delivering. They chose to sell in bulk instead of sending the orders to people who already paid.
Unbelievable!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=584891.msg8317798#msg8317798 --
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Time for a road trip. I have found our man
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Luke Rusten <
lrusten@gawminers.com> wrote:
Even though I have serious doubts it is this user please investigate Alex Wong (
alex.m.wong@gmail.com). He has been pretty supportive of us on hashtalk and there are definitely some things that don't match up but out of the 200+ Founders I have reviewed orders for week 4 Furies he was the only one that came even remotely close to fitting the bill. Find anything and everything you can on him!
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Carlos Garza <
carlos@geniusesatwork.com> wrote:
I am getting 24 hour access from zenDesk today. Just awaiting an email from their financial dept.
I will let you know when it starts Luke so we can search the tickets.
Tonight we dine on Suchmoon's BLOOOOD!!!!!!
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Carlos <
carlos@geniusesatwork.com> wrote:
She has a partner as well.
Another customer who fit multiple descriptions is Andrey Nikolayev.
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Luke Rusten <
lrusten@gawminers.com> wrote:
> Stacey Tenen?
>
> If so that is not the culprit I can almost guarantee that.
>
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> On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Carlos <
carlos@geniusesatwork.com> wrote:
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> That Stacey woman made two purchases in the same day. I have it all in my notes. This was in March when the complaints started.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Sep 4, 2014, at 9:48 AM, Josh Garza <
josh@btc.com> wrote:
>
>> guys whats up?
>>
>> Here is what my PI said
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>> [9/4/14, 9:44:10 AM] Evil BTC: you should easily get his name just compare these 2 dates I gave you
>> [9/4/14, 9:44:31 AM] Evil BTC: he made 2 purchases and we know when you won't have many clients who both on the same dates
>> [9/4/14, 9:45:18 AM] Evil BTC: then out of these 2 exclude people who never sent a single complaint and focus on those who sent more than 5 tickets right after buying the hardware
>> [9/4/14, 9:46:11 AM] Evil BTC: and exclude people who were outside the US and Canada, hes definetely in North America
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>>
>> Josh Garza
>> CEO
>> GAW Corp
>> 34 E. Dudley Town Rd.
>> Bloomfield, CT 06002
>>
>> Direct Line: 413-206-2500
>>
Josh@gaw.com>>
>>
www.GAW.com>>
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>> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Carlos Garza <
carlos@geniusesatwork.com> wrote:
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>> Luke,
>>
>> I am looking into a guy name Bill Luo. He seems to fit the immigrant part, and the hosted blade complaints. The only thing is that he dates back to May and I can't find anything dated back to March about the following:
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>> On March 27th he said he received his gridseed miners but they came without usb cables and filed a complaint on the site.
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>>
>> Can you dig anything up? Lets get this MOFO
>>
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>> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Carlos Garza <
carlos@geniusesatwork.com> wrote:
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>>
I can't waitttt, I will go on the road trip with you to show up at his door. >>
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>> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Josh Garza <
josh@geniusesatwork.com> wrote:
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>> Luke, You have no idea, I will bring the God of Thunder in once you figure this out!
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Luke Rusten <
lrusten@gawminers.com> wrote:
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>> I will investigate this throughly!
>> On Sep 1, 2014 11:08 AM, "Josh Garza" <
josh@geniusesatwork.com> wrote:
>>
>> Luc, there is nothing you could do that would deb more helpful then to track such moon down!
>>
>> This company will be forever in your debt!
>>
>>
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>> From: EP <xoanek@o2.pl>
>> Date: Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 10:30 AM
>> Subject: Daily report
>> To: josh@geniusesatwork.com
>>
>>
>> Important things I managed to find in suchmoon's posts:
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>>
>> On March 27th he said he received his gridseed miners but they came without usb cables and filed a complaint on the site.
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>> On April 1st he wrote this:
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>> Besides, my own miners are running 24/7, and the hosted ones have been down multiple times since they went live less than a week ago.
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>> Which means he had hosted miners activated somewhere around March 24-26
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>> He also said My hosted miners from Tuesday are finally up and running. Looking good so far.
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>> This sugests March 25 as the activation date. If you have logs you could check whose miners were activated on that date. The same person would then file more than one support ticket in the folowing days. Maybe there are some personal details in these tickets, maybe you could locate his ISP through that.
>>
>> Said he filed a lot of tickets since activation, so therre should be a lot of these from the same user between March 24th and April 1st. You should have his Ip if your software provides this this.
>>
>> He bought a hosted blade blade from you when the activation was scheduled for 11 April and few days later was changed to 16th.
>> He said he ordered about "a week ago" so this was around April 10th.
>>
>> I ordered one where it said "4/11",
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>> On May 14 he wrote
>> I have submitted a ticket asking to ship the blades to me, no response of course. I'm contemplating a credit card chargeback..
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>> So you should have a ticket from him with that date, and we know he bought the blades with a credit card. (more than one unit)
>>
>> On May 18th he wrote English is not my first language either. This would suggest he's an immigrant.
>> He also wrote something about having to learn 3 languages (since 2 are used in Canada he might be living there but that's just an assumption).
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>> On May 30 he wrote: At the last count I had 32 tickets with support and I think that is way way too much.
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>> He said he had a "founder" status on your site on June 14th
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>> On June 25th he said: I got my Week 4 Fury yesterday and somehow it still has the same shitty 5A power brick as blizzards.
>> So he got it on June 24th this should be easy to track.
>>
>>
>> His BTC addresses:
>> 19NuNNeN2Ee9k854G57VTD6XBbxK6ZSJ2c
>> 1A8DePhATaFEyNBJpuybCA8oYUUZEgUraP
>> 1BhvKqYiew1ofQPg8L2QdN1W713oPScNG7
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>> If you can't find him with this info (which IMO should be enough provided you have some kind of client database) you can have your lawyers issue a formal leter to the forum owner. He said multiple times that he'll give out personal info like email and ip if the law requires it.
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>> --
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Carlos Garza
>> Lead Account Executive
>> (774)303-9578
>> GAWMiners
>> 34 East Dudley Town Rd.
>> Bloomfield CT. 06002
>>
http://www.gawminers.com/>> Advancing the Public Adoption of Digital Currency Through Integrity and Professionalism
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Carlos Garza
>> Lead Account Executive
>> (774)303-9578
>> GAWMiners
>> 34 East Dudley Town Rd.
>> Bloomfield CT. 06002
>>
http://www.gawminers.com/>> Advancing the Public Adoption of Digital Currency Through Integrity and Professionalism
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Luke Rusten
> Hosted Tech Support
> GAW Miners Team
--
Cheers,
Carlos Garza
Lead Account Executive
(774)303-9578
GAWMiners
34 East Dudley Town Rd.
Bloomfield CT. 06002
http://www.gawminers.com/ Advancing the Public Adoption of Digital Currency Through Integrity and Professionalism
--
Luke Rusten
Hosted Tech Support
GAW Miners Team
--
Cheers,
Carlos Garza
Lead Account Executive
(774)303-9578
GAWMiners
34 East Dudley Town Rd.
Bloomfield CT. 06002
http://www.gawminers.com/Advancing the Public Adoption of Digital Currency Through Integrity and Professionalism
Subject: daily report
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 15:33:23 +0100
From: EP <
xoanek@o2.pl>
To:
josh@btc.comStill leaving positive feedback in the threads.
Hopefully we'll have something more to say to them besides recalling those good old days when you could ROI with hashlets in 3 months Wink
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=720844.msg9468168#msg9468168Some positive comments in this thread, that hater is still trying to leave an impression of GAW being a ponzi:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=835464.msg9467421#msg9467421They were quoting this article of course calling the guy hardcore follower and so on.
http://cloudminernews.com/the-words-josh-wont-let-me-say/This is the main hate thread on reddit:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2l7myv/can_we_talk_about_gaw/To sum up the claims are as follows:
-hashlets were falsely advertised as "always profitable"
-there was no vaultbreaker
-the profits dropped and only people who invested early got their returns
-there's a risk hashcoin will be pumped and dumped
-hashcoin investment is a gamble and the coin itself was done too fast, so it may have a lot of bugs
-claims of talks with amazon and other companies that weren't proved
-you showed less miners and tdata centers than needed to prove you have as much hash power as you said you have, most of them accepted the photos as proof, but are still saying there was not enough miners.
-they don't think shops will be interested in hashcoin if they aren't interested in bitcoin
So the main problem is they get their hopes up, because we have a lot of advertising, people recomending, promotional campaigns, blogs, news sites and so on, but there's no real profitable product.
That's why more and more people every day are skeptical.
The haters that were banned on hashtalk are a margin, maybe 10 -15 people out of hundreds that invested.
Somebody posted a daily payout comment:
Prices on Prime Hashlets continued to fall throughout the past day. After polling sellers, it’s clear that they have a variety of reasons for selling. 40% responded that they were converting assets to lock in profits and provide disposable income. 14% sold to cover basic family needs and lifestyle changes. 26% are not clear on the future benefits of HashCoin and the remaining 20% had other specific reasons for selling their Primes.Prime HashletsPrime Hashlet prices fell back several dollars yesterday due to continued selling pressure. Best available price for a single 1 MH Prime is $36.75. Lowest unit price on a larger block is currently $35.30. We believe Primes are substantially undervalued at these prices. This morning 453 Prime Hashlet blocks are listed for sale.Market Sense: Hold until HashCoin release, many deals available below $40.Zen HashletsZen Hashlet prices are stable with the floor at $12.50. Best price for a single 1 MH Zen is $12.49. Lowest unit price on a large block is currently $11.91. This morning 1,334 Zen Hashlet blocks are listed for sale.Market Sense: Buy below $13.00 and hold until HashCoin release.Genesis HashletsGenesis prices continue to be stable on the Zencloud resale market, currently it’s the best choice if you’re looking for Bitcoin payouts. The floor is maintaining at about the $5.50 mark. Best price for a single 10 GH Genesis unit is currently $5.77, lowest unit price on a large block is $5.16. This morning 580 Genesis Hashlet blocks are listed for sale.Market Sense: A good value below $6.00.Other HashletsRecent price drops on Multi, Clever & Waffle Hashlets make them more attractive, but they offer little return with BTC below $400. The Expected Value (EV) is still significantly less than cost, unless you find liquidation prices on the open market.
A thread about Vaultbreakers, some guy was asking why they weren't delivered and if the zenminer - pi compatibility is being improved.
If one of your tech guys could answer them it would have been great.
https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=22017.msg217073#msg217073New thread about KNC titans on litecointalk, seems like their miners are burning out in just few weeks.
https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=22895.0Subject: Re: I have a job for you
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 17:00:14 +0100
From: EP <
xoanek@o2.pl>
To: Josh Garza <
josh@btc.com>
Every post? They can sometimes make a 100 posts a day, iI don't think we can handle every single one.
I'll let them know and start doing it at once, I'll give you a sample how we handled this tomorrow and let you decide if that's satisfactory.
If I had ~3 BTC for my guys per month (1 BTC each) they could probably spend 2x more time on this than they are doing now. Don't send me anything yet until you see the results in the next 1-2 days and then decide.
On 25 11 2014 16:38 Josh Garza <
josh@btc.com> wrote:
I don't care if people know, all their job is is ask for evidence. That's it. They say nothing else.
The point is not for the trolls. It's for new people looking.
I want every post a troll has made responded to. It's easy money, so there should no issues.
Let me know how much you need.
Sent from my mobile phone
On Nov 25, 2014 10:34 AM, "EP" <
xoanek@o2.pl> wrote:
I'll do what I can, but it's really hard to get people for such job, because we can't risk them going public with this offer.
I'm sure I can get 2 or 3 guys that are posting for us at the moment to focus on asking for proof. We already did that in the reddit thread and the threads I showed you today in my previous email.
If they agree to do it we won't need much cash, as they are taking just 0.5 BTC/a month for this (each). It's not a full time job for them they are posting for maybe 2 h a day at the moment.
Also let me know what to do with people asking for a spot in the campaign and those asking if they should sign up after the 1st of December. If we continue in January I can sign them up, if not I'll just inform them that December is our last month and close down after Dec 31st.
Dnia 25 11 2014 15:43 Josh Garza <
josh@btc.com> wrote:
I want you to start a campaign. I want to hire people whose only job is to follow trolls around and ask for proof. That's it, they will not be a shill, as they do not need to talk good about us. The only thing I want them to do is ask for evidence.
I want this to happen for every single comment/claim a troll makes. And I want to go back to all the comments they have already made and do the same thing.
Call them truth seekers, does not matter to me. They only need to do one thing, ask for evidence.
Whatever you need for a budget, it's yours. Just tell me the number.
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Subject: update
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2015 18:44:03 +0100
From: EP <
xoanek@o2.pl>
To:
josh@gaw.comI haven't got cash for another month of the campaign, and no response to my previous emails, so I guess we'lll be closing down this month. We still have ~80 members, so if you want to do anything just let me know.
I got another resignation today due to "ethical reasons".
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=530420.msg10010963#msg10010963I will be DISCONTINUING your well run GAW tag line campaign, with regrets (no reflection on Evil Panda or others here)
I can do virtual cloud mining (people can make choices)...I can do say show a Gambling tag line (ditto people are adults can make choices)
But I CAN'T do a paybase (paycoin) Tag line in that I am of the view it is not an ethical campaign (folks can do their own research on other threads and make their
own conclusions on GAW and Paybase etc...don't want to dirty up the thread here)
This guy here said that he earned money investing in GAW projects but has some concerns and would like to contact you if possible.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=537912.msg10003396#msg10003396Today I read that GAW_CEO is claiming that many are dumping their coins and he warned them. I know Josh and Hashtalk community do not post or come to bitcointalk, but Josh if you read this, answer me. I asked you some questions in my tickets, you did not reply any of them. You can write me a PM or to my email registered on ZenCloud if you want to discuss my issues with GAW.Hope my report will help communtiy to make right decision and on other side GAW can maybe see that there are some very important points which have to redesigned so everybody can be happy.I wish you all best in 2015.
Posted a bit in this thread, but some people are spamming from multiple accounts. Since paybase started having problems there's so much spam the thread is basically unreadable. Below is just a sneak peak.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg10008004#msg10008004https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg10008017#msg10008017Quote from: cazalla on Today at 06:01:05
Hey shit cunt, what happened to you asking BitFury about the ASIC Garza said they were developing for him. Remember that? You said you would ask and then when I reminded you on twitter, you straight up blocked me.
If somebody blocked you, troll, we should all buy him a beer. As for the cunt, it's a shame you came out of one.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg10008249#msg10008249https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg10008284#msg10008284These off the wall hate posts are so over the top it makes me wonder if they are not actually some sick Cointelpro from the GAW camp to discredit what is being said here in this thread.
Yup, we are hate posters and came to derail the thread Cheesy You must have missed a few pages of sockpuppets posting gifs and laughing at disabilities.
At least we aren't making new accounts every day.
I have reported a lot of posts, mostly by this hater https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=407916
Most of them were deleted according to the forum logs:
Delete reply: Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) in topic #857670 by member #407916
Delete reply: Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) in topic #857670 by member #407916
Delete reply: Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) in topic #857670 by member #407916
Delete reply: Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) in topic #857670 by member #407916
We added some posts into the paycoin thread.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=900970.msg10005265#msg10005265A new paycoin thread, people are calling it a failure, some are defending:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=911070.msg10005050#msg10005050Seriously, its not looking good. Hashtalk is melting down ... people are really getting riled up ... now its offline.
Gaw needs to do something if they want to restore some faith and, above all, trust. They made promises and now they pull back. Not good.
Paycoin made a name for itself in few days. I can't think of any coin that has done it in such short time. Call it ponzi, call it scam or whatever you want but it has achieved what all crypto can only wish for in such short amount of time.
Added a comment.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=911070.msg10013656#msg10013656People are asking in this thread how much GAW made on paycoin. Adding comments:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=911853.msg10013838#msg10013838I think Gaw developed a loyal following in the early days by selling hardware and cloud mining.
Apparently he treated his customers well and many will attest to making money.
Declining prices pretty much made hardware and cloud mining a losing proposition. That's when the Paycoin idea was hatched.
Was it a grand exit plan? Who knows.
They will think of something. They have the money to do it and they aren't people who pack their bags and run.
The facts are that people, who bought hashlets from GAW early made a lot of money, those who didn't because bitcoin went down and mined hashpoints instead, also made money.
If you mined paycoin you also made money, so IMO GAW is a succesful company.
If you came to the party to sell early and bail without profit, don't blame them, blame yourself.
The overal attitude remains negative and people are recomending to dump it.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=900970.msg10007756#msg10007756This paycoin thread went completely off topic.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=896893.msg10007791#msg10007791
