[ANN] SpreadCoin | Decentralize Everything (decentralized blockexplorer coming)

[GilAlexander]

I personally hate the idea of having to run a bitcoin full node. I really don't want to download 20GB.

40GB ATM.

33Gb

https://blockchain.info/de/charts/blocks-size

38, I have synced wallet.

Bitcoin dev said about pruning some time ago: https://twitter.com/pwuille/status/591527686117466113 But full blockchain is still needed for first-time syncing.

[georgem]

I personally hate the idea of having to run a bitcoin full node. I really don't want to download 20GB.

40GB ATM.

33Gb

https://blockchain.info/de/charts/blocks-size

38, I have synced wallet.

Bitcoin dev said about pruning some time ago: https://twitter.com/pwuille/status/591527686117466113 But full blockchain is still needed for first-time syncing.

Interesting.
I think I will start a full node right now myself.
Haven't done that in a while.

[defunctec]

I personally hate the idea of having to run a bitcoin full node. I really don't want to download 20GB.

40GB ATM.

33Gb

https://blockchain.info/de/charts/blocks-size

38, I have synced wallet.

Bitcoin dev said about pruning some time ago: https://twitter.com/pwuille/status/591527686117466113 But full blockchain is still needed for first-time syncing.

Interesting.
I think I will start a full node right now myself.
Haven't done that in a while.

I like the ideas that are jumping about, no shortage around here!

Can we just release a working SN network first, then add these extra layers as we go?

[AnotherNode]

I personally hate the idea of having to run a bitcoin full node. I really don't want to download 20GB.

40GB ATM.

33Gb

https://blockchain.info/de/charts/blocks-size

38, I have synced wallet.

Bitcoin dev said about pruning some time ago: https://twitter.com/pwuille/status/591527686117466113 But full blockchain is still needed for first-time syncing.

Interesting.
I think I will start a full node right now myself.
Haven't done that in a while.

I like the ideas that are jumping about, no shortage around here!

Can we just release a working SN network first, then add these extra layers as we go?

Sounds to me like thats whats going on.

Georgem said he was going to have SNs up by the end of the month, with an easy to deploy service to get things going.

btw love the idea of starting with bitcoin nodes. someone pm when the bitcoin foundation posts in the thread offering some financial support.

[georgem]

I like the ideas that are jumping about, no shortage around here!

Can we just release a working SN network first, then add these extra layers as we go?

Absolutely, it's just that we can't have servicenodes without atleast 1 service running on them, or else we can't have scores/kicking etc....

And all points to this:  The first service is going to be the running / supervision of a full bitcoin node.

Stay tuned.

[AnotherNode]

links on  https://chainz.cryptoid.info/spr/#!crypto looks like it needs an official request to get it updated.

[georgem]

links on  https://chainz.cryptoid.info/spr/#!crypto looks like it needs an official request to get it updated.

oh, this reminds me...
I need to tell coinmarketcap to update both the new official website and ANN thread:

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/spreadcoin/

[coins101]

I thought I had taken an image of the bitcoin nodes map and numbers last year

Bitcoin Nodes


...

In 9-10 months, the downward trend is pretty big

[entropycoin]

I've mulled it over for a day and I'm now totally on board and excited at the prospect of running full bitcoin nodes as spread's first service

[e1ghtSpace]

I like the ideas that are jumping about, no shortage around here!

Can we just release a working SN network first, then add these extra layers as we go?

Absolutely, it's just that we can't have servicenodes without atleast 1 service running on them, or else we can't have scores/kicking etc....

And all points to this:  The first service is going to be the running / supervision of a full bitcoin node.

Stay tuned.

Are they going to be mixing coins, or no?

[coins101]

I like the ideas that are jumping about, no shortage around here!

Can we just release a working SN network first, then add these extra layers as we go?

Absolutely, it's just that we can't have servicenodes without atleast 1 service running on them, or else we can't have scores/kicking etc....

And all points to this:  The first service is going to be the running / supervision of a full bitcoin node.

Stay tuned.

Are they going to be mixing coins, or no?

Hold that thought for another week, then post a bump to remind us to discuss it again!

[AnotherNode]

I've mulled it over for a day and I'm now totally on board and excited at the prospect of running full bitcoin nodes as spread's first service

I like the approach as well.

I think the dev already said it better than me. bitcoin is important for all alts. If it fails alts fail.

this is a good first service for spreadcoin and bitcoin. it also sounds like it is easier and quicker to deploy than any other service that has been discussed.

[coins101]

If we are going to do this service, even if its on trial for 3, 6, 12, 600 months, I guess it should have a project name, like all big and important projects  



Project Atlas, anyone?

 

[georgem]

If we are going to do this service, even if its on trial for 3, 6, 12, 600 months, I guess it should have a project name, like all big and important projects  



Project Atlas, anyone?

 

lol, and then maybe Kristov Atlas can be our speaksperson?

But wait, there is an important distinction: Atlas had to carry the world on his shoulders as a punishment,
but we are doing it voluntarily. So...

That's why I start all projects with "spread the .... something"
Spread some love once in a while, why not...

Spread the nodes.

[e1ghtSpace]

If we are going to do this service, even if its on trial for 3, 6, 12, 600 months, I guess it should have a project name, like all big and important projects  



Project Atlas, anyone?

 

lol, and then maybe Kristov Atlas can be our speaksperson?

But wait, there is an important distinction: Atlas had to carry the world on his shoulders as a punishment,
but we are doing it voluntarily. So...

That's why I start all projects with "spread the .... something"
Spread some love once in a while, why not...

Spread the nodes.

Spread the punishment. No but seriously, how are the bitcoin nodes going to be validated?
So basically the only reason we're doing this is for publicity?

"Hey everyone, heres a servicenode service. We're going to help another coin that has less features than us survive, at the cost of 40GB of HDD space for everyone who wants to help"

The idea for servicenodes is to create a platform for people to create things. All I see right now is us helping an old, clunky (40gb) service that we already have survive. So I guess this is just for the money.

[georgem]

so my bitcoin node finally synced after about 15 hours.

.bitcoin folder (blockchain etc) is 39 GByte big. (at Block 354914)

or 40095376 Bytes.

While I was at it, I also installed a full spreadcoin node which has now 40 connections with the network.
I will hardcode its IP into the wallet, should make the sync process faster.

[georgem]

Spread the punishment. No but seriously, how are the bitcoin nodes going to be validated?

That's what we have to find out. And that's where the fame will come from, IF we find out.

Cryptoland has a problem, who will find a solution?
That's a recurring theme around these parts.

So basically the only reason we're doing this is for publicity?

Ofcourse not.


If we can't find a way to validate/secure this (or any future) service, then the service will simply not go public, and be put away into the "bad ideas basket".

Then the next idea will be tried.

I thought that would be obvious?

[coins101]

Spread the punishment. No but seriously, how are the bitcoin nodes going to be validated?

That's what we have to find out. And that's where the fame will come from, IF we find out.

Cryptoland has a problem, who will find a solution?
That's a recurring theme around these parts.

So basically the only reason we're doing this is for publicity?

Ofcourse not.


If we can't find a way to validate/secure this (or any future) service, then the service will simply not go public, and be put away into the "bad ideas basket".

I thought that would be obvious?

Actually, I too have been thinking about this again after reading a couple of posts above.

Whether we like it or not, nearly $1bn of VC money has gone into Bitcoin. Yet the node count is falling and heading into risky territory.

It's actually in all our interests, all alt coins, to support Bitcoin until there is sufficient public recognition of crypto being more than Bitcoin.

I guess this is an example of selfish cooperation. 'I will help not because I want to, but because your success helps me.'

There is also the practical aspect that nearly all alts are traded in BTC pairs.  If you want to exchange your SPR for $, you have to go via BTC. The entire crypto infrastructure currently relies on Bitcoin transactions financing it.

Will it get some publicity? Who knows. The underlying issue is that Bitcoin needs full nodes to secure it before negative press starts to impact everyone.

[georgem]

The idea for servicenodes is to create a platform for people to create things. All I see right now is us helping an old, clunky (40gb) service that we already have survive. So I guess this is just for the money.

The idea behind servicenodes is to "decentralize everything",
not "create a platform for people to create things"...
what do you even mean by that? A decentralized programming language? Sounds like ethereum to me!

I am thinking about decentralizing things that are now centralized (or whose decentralization is under attack!)

Helping the main force behind cryptocurrencies (bitcoin) getting more decentralized is well within those parameters.

Creating a decentralized search engine is too.

[coins101]

......not "create a platform for people to create things"...
what do you even mean by that? A decentralized programming language? Sounds like ethereum to me!
...

Actually, I was thinking more like a services App store. No need for a new programming language.

Anyone can create a service provided they work on making it compatible to run on the network and servicenodes want to run it. But I guess that feature is way in the future.