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[georgem]

If I'm wrong, I will be the first to admit it.

It's not your decision, the truth is in the blockchain, we don't need to care if you admit something or not, sigh.

[stonehedge]

If I'm wrong, I will be the first to admit it.

the truth is in the blockchain

Probably why you split your SPR holdings into smaller quantities and addresses.

To be fair, I did the same when I had a large wallet for privacy reasons.

[georgem]

Probably why you split your SPR holdings into smaller quantities and addresses.

To be fair, I did the same when I had a large wallet for privacy reasons.

Are you kidding me, I clearly remember you recommending to me that I do that splitting, lol...

And I was all like: "oh, is that what I am supposed to do now... ok, if you say so...."

In the end my plan was to split those 100k SPR into 4 paperwallets, it had nothing to do with "privacy reasons".

Seriously, I need someone to take a look at where those 100k originated from.
Shouldn't transparency work both ways?

[stonehedge]

Probably why you split your SPR holdings into smaller quantities and addresses.

To be fair, I did the same when I had a large wallet for privacy reasons.

Are you kidding me, I clearly remember you recommending to me that I do that splitting, lol...

And I was all like: "oh, is that what I am supposed to do now... ok, if you say so...."

In the end my plan was to split those 100k SPR into 4 paperwallets, it had nothing to do with "privacy reasons".

Seriously, I need someone to take a look at where those 100k originated from.
Shouldn't transparency work both ways?

I remember that conversation clearly too.

Is it only 4 wallets? Thought it was more than that.  Sorry, its taking me quite a while to work through this.

[stonehedge]

Even though georgem says nobody cares about an apology, I like to apologise when I am wrong.

*most* of the coins that I donated Georgem made it to the Shutup wallet.  I didn't see this originally because it was done in 7 transactions from an address that I did not know about (or at least had not seen since 2015).

I apologise for being incorrect.

EDIT:  Although none of my other donations to Georgem are in that list of transactions.  I'll go back to my old SPR wallets and see if I can shed light on this.

[georgem]

EDIT:  Although none of my other donations to Georgem are in that list of transactions.  I'll go back to my old SPR wallets and see if I can shed light on this.

Why not just paste all addresses you ever used to make a donation to me?

Transaction-IDs please.

*most* of the coins that I donated Georgem made it to the Shutup wallet.  

*most* meaning *all* right?
You have to consider fungibility too.
Sometimes when I moved SPR to bittrex to pay some bills I didn't care to specifically choose inputs that were NOT from those 100k.
Sometimes I just let the tool choose the inputs automatically.

You would need to create a balance sheet where all inputs and outputs are correlated, and in the end it will show the balance that is currently in the ShutUp-Address.

[georgem]

I apologise for being incorrect.

Ok, apology accepted, but... I am not even sure what the "accusation" is?

[stonehedge]

I apologise for being incorrect.

Ok, apology accepted, but... I am not even sure what the "accusation" is?

Well, there wasn't really an accusation.

I just observed, incorrectly, that some coins were missing from your balance where you claimed they were all in that address.

I did say at the time that you could have sold them, which is of course completely fine.  They're your coins.  As it happened, I was incorrect, and did not spot the 7 step link between my donation and your current wallet.

[AnotherNode]

Nice price activity. SPR is going places.

Time for another hardware purchase I guess.  

I put 10k SPR on 6100 Satoshis.

I finally want to invest in a Pascal Architecture GPU, an Nvidia GTX 10XX (not sure which model yet),
and also upgrade PSU etc...

I really don't think you should be trying to claim any credit for the ATH. the market is showing support for a direction we should have gone down a long time ago. We've seen the price depressed for so long it's truly been depressing. but we are now seeing a good price move AND it's not because of you.

But I'm glad you've been able to benefit from the price rise. Imagine how much we would have all benefited if you had helped the project do well, and I don't just mean financially benefited. we've had lots of new miners, new faces, increased optimism. I'm sure that would have also translated into lots more patreons.

[stonehedge]

Nice price activity. SPR is going places.

Time for another hardware purchase I guess.  

I put 10k SPR on 6100 Satoshis.

I finally want to invest in a Pascal Architecture GPU, an Nvidia GTX 10XX (not sure which model yet),
and also upgrade PSU etc...

I really don't think you should be trying to claim any credit for the ATH. the market is showing support for a direction we should have gone down a long time ago. We've seen the price depressed for so long it's truly been depressing. but we are now seeing a good price move AND it's not because of you.

But I'm glad you've been able to benefit from the price rise. Imagine how much we would have all benefited if you had helped the project do well, and I don't just mean financially benefited. we've had lots of new miners, new faces, increased optimism. I'm sure that would have also translated into lots more patreons.

The interesting thing will be what happens when the HLM swap happens.  Will SPR keep up with the price of Helium?

[georgem]

The interesting thing will be what happens when the HLM swap happens.  Will SPR keep up with the price of Helium?

Yes, it will be interesting to see.
It's not just a fork in the usual sense, it's also a philosophical fork.

Decentralization vs Centralization.
Permissionless System vs having to ask for permission

Spreadcoin and HLM will not just be different, they will be opposite to each other.
We are both talking about servicenodes, yet we mean so completely different things.

I actually hope that HLM is successful, you have my blessings..., it's just that I want it to be clearly separated from Spreadcoin.

I don't know what an "economic fork" is. I don't know what a Swap is. These are all just buzzwords.
People have already voiced very contrasting opinions about all this.
I am speaking for myself when I say that it doesn't sound like anything that I would want to take part in.

But nonetheless I am kinda glad that HLM comes into existence.
I really want to know what a lawyer has to say about trying to apply a patent on something that is already based on open source and free software,
and whether a public database (like a blockchain) can even be "copyrighted" in the usual sense.

I am not sure how far you guys are willing to go with this, but I have ordered a very large supply of popcorn.

[georgem]

I really don't think you should be trying to claim any credit for the ATH.

WTF are you talking about... we are mostly witnessing the side effects of a bitcoin price boost and nothing else.
Pretend all you like but how stupid do you think people are?

[AnotherNode]

I really don't think you should be trying to claim any credit for the ATH.

WTF are you talking about... we are mostly witnessing the side effects of a bitcoin price boost and nothing else.
Pretend all you like but how stupid do you think people are?

Dream on.

Good luck with your

my favorite hobby (spreadcoin).

Says it all. But well done on getting random people on the internet to pay for what you call your hobby.

DASH is nearly $400m and has benefited considerably from stuff that looks like it came from ideas that could have happened here first. but no instead spreadcoin is a rounding error on DASH prices. Let us see if HELIUM can catch DASH, and even if it only gets to 10% at least it is going to give it a try.

[georgem]

DASH is nearly $400m and has benefited considerably from stuff that looks like it came from ideas that could have happened here first. but no instead spreadcoin is a rounding error on DASH prices. Let us see if HELIUM can catch DASH, and even if it only gets to 10% at least it is going to give it a try.

Come on man, think for yourself.
Don't just parrot what other people put in your head.

Remember that PM you sent to me about 6 months ago:



The same people that told you to invest in crowncoin back then, are telling you now that HELIUM will be the next big thing.

You have your own brain and are entitled to your own opinion.
But you have to...

USE IT!

... or else others will ...

USE YOU!

[e1ghtSpace]

DASH is nearly $400m and has benefited considerably from stuff that looks like it came from ideas that could have happened here first. but no instead spreadcoin is a rounding error on DASH prices. Let us see if HELIUM can catch DASH, and even if it only gets to 10% at least it is going to give it a try.

Come on man, think for yourself.
Don't just parrot what other people put in your head.

Remember that PM you sent to me about 6 months ago:



The same people that told you to invest in crowncoin back then, are telling you now that HELIUM will be the next big thing.

You have your own brain and are entitled to your own opinion.
But you have to...

USE IT!

... or else others will ...

USE YOU!

Not all the same people, just some. And these people didn't just switch to helium, they support both, afaik.

C'mon now georgem, are you trying to say these people are using AnotherNode?

[stonehedge]

 Another node, could you PM me and let me know who was encouraging you to dump your SPR for CRW?  I don't have a problem with that but I'd like to know who it was. That's not something we have discussed as a team. Indeed, about 1/3rd of crw supporters hold SPR too I think.

Also, CRW did have plans for PoBN but abandoned them last autumn because we know another project is doing it and we couldn't find a way to do it perfectly.

I don't know if Helium will be a success but I support it because Coins101 has a track record of delivering what he says, when he says he'll do it.

[Bimmerhead]

WTF are you talking about... we are mostly witnessing the side effects of a bitcoin price boost and nothing else.
Pretend all you like but how stupid do you think people are?

Really? The price of Spread in bitcoin more than doubles and it's because bitcoin is going up? Indeed, "how stupid do you think people are?"

I don't know any of the backstory here but I'll say this: coins101 exited this thread with complete class. He did no slagging of Spreadcoin. I hope you show the same class towards Helium, but I'm not optimistic based on your opening comments about that project.

[duboisi]

WTF are you talking about... we are mostly witnessing the side effects of a bitcoin price boost and nothing else.
Pretend all you like but how stupid do you think people are?

Really? The price of Spread in bitcoin more than doubles and it's because bitcoin is going up? Indeed, "how stupid do you think people are?"

I don't know any of the backstory here but I'll say this: coins101 exited this thread with complete class. He did no slagging of Spreadcoin. I hope you show the same class towards Helium, but I'm not optimistic based on your opening comments about that project.

We should not deny people's right to believe that the price and network hash increase is due BTC price, do we 

[Lernerz]

DASH is nearly $400m and has benefited considerably from stuff that looks like it came from ideas that could have happened here first. but no instead spreadcoin is a rounding error on DASH prices. Let us see if HELIUM can catch DASH, and even if it only gets to 10% at least it is going to give it a try.

Come on man, think for yourself.
Don't just parrot what other people put in your head.

Remember that PM you sent to me about 6 months ago:



The same people that told you to invest in crowncoin back then, are telling you now that HELIUM will be the next big thing.

You have your own brain and are entitled to your own opinion.
But you have to...

USE IT!

... or else others will ...

USE YOU!

Please, give us the release date of software developments of which screenshots you posted in the topic.

[entropycoin]

The interesting thing will be what happens when the HLM swap happens.  Will SPR keep up with the price of Helium?

Yes, it will be interesting to see.
It's not just a fork in the usual sense, it's also a philosophical fork.

Decentralization vs Centralization.
Permissionless System vs having to ask for permission

Spreadcoin and HLM will not just be different, they will be opposite to each other.
We are both talking about servicenodes, yet we mean so completely different things.

I actually hope that HLM is successful, you have my blessings..., it's just that I want it to be clearly separated from Spreadcoin.

I don't know what an "economic fork" is. I don't know what a Swap is. These are all just buzzwords.
People have already voiced very contrasting opinions about all this.
I am speaking for myself when I say that it doesn't sound like anything that I would want to take part in.

But nonetheless I am kinda glad that HLM comes into existence.
I really want to know what a lawyer has to say about trying to apply a patent on something that is already based on open source and free software,
and whether a public database (like a blockchain) can even be "copyrighted" in the usual sense.

I am not sure how far you guys are willing to go with this, but I have ordered a very large supply of popcorn.

The method for distribution will be clearly laid out as hlm's release approaches. What is clear is you will obtain equal part hlm for the spr you're holding in your wallet. Since it's not something you're wanting to take part in, I'll propose this: When hlm launches, I'll trade you 30k spr for 30k hlm. This is irrespective of each coin's valuation at launch. This will allow you not to take part in this project, and will give you a larger stake in the project you're primarily associated with. Sound good to you?