pirate payments list -- accounts paid: 23/459

[bg002h]

Interesting.

Looks like Mr. Shavers was having money issues.

It is labor day which is a bank holdiay.  That must be the reason.  I am sure the big payments are coming tomorrow.

We shall see...

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[coin_toss]

Would be good to see some progress on the payouts front. Why have things stalled at 23?

[burnside]

Would be good to see some progress on the payouts front. Why have things stalled at 23 1?

FTFY

[SysRun]

boatstat taken down "because of all the mean people in the IRC." I'm guessing.

[ErebusBat]

boatstat taken down "because of all the mean people in the IRC." I'm guessing.

Or because of the compulsive need for people to call it every five minutes even though it never changes.

[myrkul]

boatstat taken down "because of all the mean people in the IRC." I'm guessing.

Or because of the compulsive need for people to call it every five minutes even though it never changes.

I just like Matt's funny replies:

%n pirate sockpuppets have forgotten their GLBSE passwords.

[ObviousSock]

boatstat taken down "because of all the mean people in the IRC." I'm guessing.

Or pirate finally packed his computer and is heading out...

[myrkul]

boatstat taken down "because of all the mean people in the IRC." I'm guessing.

Or pirate finally packed his computer and is heading out...

He's still logged in, but the botscript seems to have hung or something.

[Bitcoin Oz]

Would be good to see some progress on the payouts front. Why have things stalled at 23?

There never was 23 payouts.

[ElectricMucus]

boatstat taken down "because of all the mean people in the IRC." I'm guessing.

Or pirate finally packed his computer and is heading out...

He's still logged in, but the botscript seems to have hung or something.

You know what would be hilarious?

If pirateat40 turns out to be just an ELIZA bot with a few scripted events and responses since the default.  

[ObviousSock]

What doesn't make sense to me is:

Lets assume:
That it is a ponzi; and
Pirate knew it was winding down; then:

Why drag it out like this?
Pirate obviously had the trendon shavers ID setup so I don't by the 'time to packup' guise.

I get the argument of getting a list of marks (asking for account info); however if he wanted to do that to begin with then why even allow the PPT? Why not just open up the sub-accounts sooner?  Also is it really needed?

There is just a bunch of things that don't add up to the 'HE TOOK OUR COINS!' argument (do that in the south park accent).

[DeathAndTaxes]

You assume Pirate is smart.
You assume Pirate had a plan from the beginning.
You assume Pirate planed a fake identity out there.

You assume a lot of things.

[finkleshnorts]

You assume Pirate is smart.
You assume Pirate had a plan from the beginning.
You assume Pirate planed a fake identity out there.

You assume a lot of things.

+1

[finkleshnorts]

why even allow the PPT? Why not just open up the sub-accounts sooner?

To divert blame to the PPT operators, it's already started.

[ObviousSock]

You assume Pirate is smart.
You assume Pirate had a plan from the beginning.
You assume Pirate planed a fake identity out there.

You assume a lot of things.

Other than the almost obvious fact that he is a thief, why do you not think he is smart?

He was smart enough to steal 5mil, that isn't kindergarten work.

I am just saying that somethings don't add up... you can't say pirate was stupid and will get caught just because you want him to be.

The more you think about it the more things don't add up.

why even allow the PPT? Why not just open up the sub-accounts sooner?

To divert blame to the PPT operators, it's already started.

While possible, it is unneeded.  It isn't like it is a secret where the coins are.  So if you objective were to obtain as much coin as possible then why not do it directly?

[Bitcoin Oz]

I wonder what the next scam will be now that he got away with this one. Perhaps this was a test to see how much they can get away with. I dont know if I really want to stick around and find out.

If you can steal 5 million with relative ease why not keep coming back to the easy marks like a blackmailer does.

[finkleshnorts]

He was smart enough to steal 5mil, that isn't kindergarten work.

It is on this forum. For instance, RustyRyan has ~600 BTC and counting.

I am just saying that somethings don't add up... you can't say pirate was stupid and will get caught just because you want him to be.

Historically, stealing bitcoins has no consequences. Either way, thieves steal now and worry about the consequences later.

While possible, it is unneeded.  It isn't like it is a secret where the coins are.

It kind of is, though. Nobody knows where Pirate is right now, and nobody knows whether he has bitcoins or USD.

So if you objective were to obtain as much coin as possible then why not do it directly?

Convenience, laziness. People were lining up in droves to pour bitcoins into his scheme, why not let others handle the legwork?

[finkleshnorts]

And I don't believe it for a second, but payb.tc has already been accused of running his own Ponzi with bitcoinmax. It draws attention away from Pirate. Goat's noble refusal to hand over personal info to Pirate has also earned him some flak.

[JoelKatz]

What doesn't make sense to me is:

Lets assume:
That it is a ponzi; and
Pirate knew it was winding down; then:

Why drag it out like this?

He's still making money, why would he stop? Pirate debt still has a non-zero value. He can continue to trade his debt for Bitcoins.

Pirate obviously had the trendon shavers ID setup so I don't by the 'time to packup' guise.

I don't either. I think it's most likely time to make more money. Much less likely, it's time to buy his own debt at a low price to perhaps try to make it all work out in the end (which I don't think will work).

I get the argument of getting a list of marks (asking for account info); however if he wanted to do that to begin with then why even allow the PPT? Why not just open up the sub-accounts sooner?  Also is it really needed?

He miscalculated how much time he had. He was in the process of doing that when things collapsed.

There is just a bunch of things that don't add up to the 'HE TOOK OUR COINS!' argument (do that in the south park accent).

Please name one such thing if you can.

[finkleshnorts]

I would be very wary of ANYONE on this forum who was in control of X00,000 BTC. It's so easy to run away with. That's why sites like betsofbitco.in are starting to scare me. betcoin.eu already ran with their money.