New York Times identifies Nick Szabo as Satoshi Nakamoto

[Gleb Gamow]

The New York Times thinks it's identified mysterious bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto
-snip-

This is nothing but a marketing move by NYT. Nice to see that they think Bitcoin sales better than babes. The NewsWeek story had more substance than this.

This is also a tactical move by Vaurum, which is backed Tim Draper and recruited Nick Szabo. If they can push that Szabo is Nakamoto, then they'll have a say that Founder of Bitcoin is working with us. So, we are better than others.

Tim Draper: Satoshi works for us.
Other Bitcoin Entities: No problem! We'll just fork Satoshi six ways.
Tim Draper: I see what you did there!

[RitzBitzz]

I don't believe its him I still believe its that guy a couple years back who's last name is nakamoto.

[Gleb Gamow]

If the relevant authorities did find the creator of bitcoin could they make him / her or them destroy bitcoin?

I don't know enough about the technical side but was wondering if it could all come to an end if the people in the know were made to do so?

the bitcoin code exists on thousands of users computers. there is no central location..
in short there is no 'off switch' unless authorities could systematically find every single bitcoin-core user and destroy the bitcoin code on everyones computer..

if the government had any monetary destruction agenda.. they would find it far easier to destroy FIAT banks.. to wipe off the trillion dollar world debt

<start post> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_kill_switch </end post>

PS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Schneier#Cryptography

Any person can invent a security system so clever that he or she can't imagine a way of breaking it.

[franky1]

if the media actually bothered to spend any time properly researching they would find that nick szabo, hal finney and a few others all contributed to bitcoin.

lets use a cake analogy..
satoshi is the cake maker
nick the egg farmer
hal finney the flour mill owner
other people provided the vanilla and chocolate flavouring..

satoshi then mixed the ingrediants together and baked the cake..

and now gavin and the other devs are adding the icing and candles..

so yea nick had something to do with it.. but he didnt put all the ingredients together...

... all im waiting for is the entertainment to begin where the world goes nuts like they did during the dorian saga.. followed or previous to a tsunami of scammers making fake nickszabo accounts and saying they will do interviews if they get prepaid large amounts of money.

either way people will realise the main creator is not that important.. after all do any of you know the name of the first person who created a bank note.. (without googling it)

[franky1]

If the relevant authorities did find the creator of bitcoin could they make him / her or them destroy bitcoin?

I don't know enough about the technical side but was wondering if it could all come to an end if the people in the know were made to do so?

the bitcoin code exists on thousands of users computers. there is no central location..
in short there is no 'off switch' unless authorities could systematically find every single bitcoin-core user and destroy the bitcoin code on everyones computer..

if the government had any monetary destruction agenda.. they would find it far easier to destroy FIAT banks.. to wipe off the trillion dollar world debt

<start post> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_kill_switch </end post>

PS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Schneier#Cryptography

Any person can invent a security system so clever that he or she can't imagine a way of breaking it.

the question was can authorities make satoshi kill bitcoin.... answer is still no.
the authorities themselves could as i explained systematically weed out all users of bitcoin-core.. or as you point out nuke the entire internet.. but in both cases, satoshi needs no part of it, thus no need to find him

[hedgy73]

if the media actually bothered to spend any time properly researching they would find that nick szabo, hal finney and a few others all contributed to bitcoin.

lets use a cake analogy..
satoshi is the cake maker
nick the egg farmer
hal finney the flour mill owner
other people provided the vanilla and chocolate flavouring..

satoshi then mixed the ingrediants together and baked the cake..

and now gavin and the other devs are adding the icing and candles..

so yea nick had something to do with it.. but he didnt put all the ingredients together...

... all im waiting for is the entertainment to begin where the world goes nuts like they did during the dorian saga.. followed or previous to a tsunami of scammers making fake nickszabo accounts and saying they will do interviews if they get prepaid large amounts of money.

either way people will realise the main creator is not that important.. after all do any of you know the name of the first person who created a bank note.. (without googling it)

Like it!

Don't know who made the first bank not without googling by the way.....

[JAW]

I always wonder how much BTC he would have mined in good times

[goosoodude]

It seems that the NYT is not quite as confident about the identity of Satoshi as Newsweek was early last year. They likely do not want to get the same kind of bad reputation that Newsweek got when they doxed the wrong satoshi.

Based on what I have read about Nick and based on what is in the article, I don't think that Nick is satoshi, however it seems that Nick may know who satochi is, possibly working with him in the past, possibly at bit gold

[coinableS]

Not the first time Szabo has been speculated as Satoshi. Nothing original here NYT. Also I don't believe Szabo is Satoshi.

[Slark]

Unless real Satoshi will disclose his/her/their identity we are in the same spot. Time passed, and 5 years after bitcoin was created we still know nothing certain about its creator.
Even if Szabo is really Satoshi there is not enough proofs to confirm this revelation. We don't have anything solid here.
Unless NYT digged out some groundbreaking facts I will still think that this Szabo=Satoshi sensational news is just a publicity stunt.

[Gleb Gamow]

if the media actually bothered to spend any time properly researching they would find that nick szabo, hal finney and a few others all contributed to bitcoin.

lets use a cake analogy..
satoshi is the cake maker
nick the egg farmer
hal finney the flour mill owner
other people provided the vanilla and chocolate flavouring..

satoshi then mixed the ingrediants together and baked the cake..

and now gavin and the other devs are adding the icing and candles..

so yea nick had something to do with it.. but he didnt put all the ingredients together...

... all im waiting for is the entertainment to begin where the world goes nuts like they did during the dorian saga.. followed or previous to a tsunami of scammers making fake nickszabo accounts and saying they will do interviews if they get prepaid large amounts of money.

either way people will realise the main creator is not that important.. after all do any of you know the name of the first person who created a bank note.. (without googling it)

Like it!

Don't know who made the first bank not without googling by the way.....

First blockchain:

By the early 12th century, the amount of banknotes issued in a single year amounted to an annual rate of 26 million strings of cash coins.

First Altcoins:

It was recorded that each year before 1101 AD, the prefecture of Xinan (modern Xi-xian, Anhui) alone would send 1,500,000 sheets of paper in seven different varieties to the capital at Kaifeng.

[Gleb Gamow]

Unless real Satoshi will disclose his/her/their identity we are in the same spot. Time passed, and 5 years after bitcoin was created we still know nothing certain about its creator.
Even if Szabo is really Satoshi there is not enough proofs to confirm this revelation. We don't have anything solid here.
Unless NYT digged out some groundbreaking facts I will still think that this Szabo=Satoshi sensational news is just a publicity stunt.

As I had these conversations with the programmers and entrepreneurs who are most deeply involved in Bitcoin, I encountered a quiet but widely held belief that much of the most convincing evidence pointed to a reclusive American man of Hungarian descent named Nick Szabo.

I concur. Them Hungarians will do anything for attention.

[Gleb Gamow]

Unless real Satoshi will disclose his/her/their identity we are in the same spot. Time passed, and 5 years after bitcoin was created we still know nothing certain about its creator.
Even if Szabo is really Satoshi there is not enough proofs to confirm this revelation. We don't have anything solid here.
Unless NYT digged out some groundbreaking facts I will still think that this Szabo=Satoshi sensational news is just a publicity stunt.

http://web.archive.org/web/20120117011806/http://vaurum.com/



Obviously, something's been in the works for a while now.

[franky1]

the overwhelming evidence that satoshi is british ( british spellings and grammer, plus british newspaper reference in genesis) always gets ignored when they try to convince people that satoshi is american.....

[Gleb Gamow]

the overwhelming evidence that satoshi is british ( british spellings and grammer, plus british newspaper reference in genesis) always gets ignored when they try to convince people that satoshi is american.....

I call, and raise you a post depicting Curtis Green referring to himself as an African American.

[Gleb Gamow]

Unless real Satoshi will disclose his/her/their identity we are in the same spot. Time passed, and 5 years after bitcoin was created we still know nothing certain about its creator.
Even if Szabo is really Satoshi there is not enough proofs to confirm this revelation. We don't have anything solid here.
Unless NYT digged out some groundbreaking facts I will still think that this Szabo=Satoshi sensational news is just a publicity stunt.

http://web.archive.org/web/20120117011806/http://vaurum.com/



Obviously, something's been in the works for a while now.

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For those aware that Satoshi loved using the word "Karma": https://www.facebook.com/karmacoin.me/info?tab=page_info

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340 S Lemon Ave #7926 Walnut CA United States
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There sure the hell is a lot of Bitcoin-related biz associated with that Lemon Ave address, eh?

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:1ilKGNG5mHgJ:howtologinto.com/%3Fd%3Dbitcoinmagazine.com+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

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[nutildah]

I always wondered if S.N. was an anagram for something (not the initials, the full name. I've just seen it spelled out enough for today).

Good thing there's this:

http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=satoshi+nakamoto&t=1000

Here's some of my favorite of the first 1000 results:

Anatomists Hooka
Satanist Amok Ooh
Asia Tomato Honks
Samoa Taint Hooks

Aha Masons It Took

!!!

I think I cracked the code. It was invented by the freemasons. Makes perfect conspiratorial sense.

[Gleb Gamow]

http://counterpartyfoundation.org/celebrating-the-one-year-anniversary-of-the-counterparty-project/

340 S. Lemon Ave #2333
Walnut, CA 91789
+1 925-954-9473

How is that an address associated with Satoshi(?) via Vaurum also be associated with CounterParty, GAW, among other Bitcoin-themed entities?

http://www.toshidesk.com/

340 S LEMON AVE #2779 WALNUT, CA 91789

http://www.didsimple.com/

DIDSimple™

340 S LEMON AVE #6343
WALNUT, CA 91789
+1 469-552-7434

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Phone: (844) TOP-BLOCK

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This too: https://mawords.com/darkwallet.com

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[tspacepilot]

I read this article on my lunch today and I have to point out that I wouldn't say that the article actually identifies Szabo as Satoshi.  Definitely not the way that Newsweek did with that fellow last year.  Instead, this article merely highlights the fact that Szabo is among a small group of (known) people who have the potential to be Satoshi, and it talks about the evidence for that.  From my reading of it, I think saying that they "identify" Szabo as Satoshi Nakamoto is going too far.

[franky1]

How is that an address associated with Satoshi(?) via Vaurum also be associated with CounterParty, GAW, among other Bitcoin-themed entities?

if you look hard enough you will find links to everything.. (6th degree of separation philosophy)
keep looking you might find a link between satoshi and brock pierce..
via some coin protocols, bitcoin foundation and vaurum......

.. all it means is that in a pool of not very many people, you will always find familiar connections.

my previous posts were to highlight that the real satoshi never shouted out that he was british, thus not making it a direct ploy to confuse people. but from the manner in which he posted messages on forums, gits and emails he is definetly british.

yet the only thing that links nick and satoshi. is that they are both interested in an alternative currency (just like hal finney, brock, gavin, andreas, sirrius and millions of others) and the fact that he used a few common words.... which thousands of people say..

thus there is just as much evidence that your best friend brock pierce could be satoshi
thus there is just as much evidence that Hal finney could be satoshi
thus there is just as much evidence that theymos could be satoshi
thus there is just as much evidence that sirrius could be satoshi