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[BetterBetsDev]

as i understand that person asking for play as guest player/anonymous without any kind of registration like many dice sites has that features when any player visit that site his account automatically created and than he wish to enter password to make save or not it is all about on player's choice.

It is impossible to do so because they are integrated with moneypot and player needs to register at moneypot to be able to play at betterbets. Unless Lobos could make an auto registration in moneypot each time new players visit the site, this would help with the registration process though

P.S : registration is moneypot is actually simple, username and password only. Email is optional

Correct. We don't have the ability to auto-create user accounts on MoneyPot. Maybe that feature will come in the future but for now we have to accept the registration process for what it is.

You wanted fast betting, we delivered. Now, what else do you want? 

#1 Zig zag autobet feature, bet for H if lose/win change to L instead

#2 Ability to view the details of the X roll number such as multiplier, wagered, hashes etc

#3 Ability to check on other user profile.

This would be a nice addition though

#1: Noted

#2: On the todo list

#3: Noted

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[AltcoinRambo]

Just checked in tried the new speed-update you guys implemented. All I can say is WOW!!!!!!! I've never betted nearly as fast on any other site. Great stuff, you guys rock!

[srgkrgkj]

Just checked in tried the new speed-update you guys implemented. All I can say is WOW!!!!!!! I've never betted nearly as fast on any other site. Great stuff, you guys rock!

yep gotta say the site can be compared to the likes of coinichiwa and is much much faster for me than sites like Primedice which grind betting down when i play

[erwin45hacked]

Sorry to ask this, can you please clarify on this

Since you are using moneypot's balance for your bankroll, this means that you as an admin could play at the site as well and drain's moneypot balance isnt it since you know the server hash and could know whats the next roll will be?

No, this is not possible since our systems are more integrated than that. We don't generate the rolls (ie: server hash, salt & resulting roll) locally. Instead all of these are generated on the MoneyPot servers and we get them via an API call. So we have as much advance prior knowledge of future rolls as any other casual user of our site (ie: none).

Here are the the things we can't do:
- Pre-determine future rolls
- Manipulate rolls to influence their outcome
- Steal the MoneyPot bankroll assigned to our site
- etc.

Basically, by using our site you are guaranteed that we are unable to game the system in any way, shape or form.

Great question, they do use MoneyPot's balance as the bankroll and for that precise reason they don't have access to any privileged information. In fact, they know exactly as much as you know and you can actually create an app now ( https://www.moneypot.com/apps/new ) , and use the very same API that betterbets.io is using.

In the end will it be correct to assume that the owner of betterbets will be just like another normal user who play at the site since they will have no access to most things ? I assume the account thing is handled by moneypot as well since it is integrated with moneypot

Correct. The only thing we store locally which influence the behavior of your account/session, are the settings you can change in the "Your Account" section/sidebar which are:

1) Email Address (optional)
2) Client Seed
3) % of Raffle Tickets you wish to redeem

Of course we also keep some other data (rolls taken, wins, losses, amount wagered, etc) but these are purely for statistics purposes.

All other account fields (balance, server seed & bet generation, etc) are handled by Moneypot. We retrieve them via an API call and display them, but in terms of taking bets, we go through exactly the same process as any other/regular user. We have no inside knowledge of future bets and and thus are at no advantage whatsoever when compared to a regular user.

I see, then in the end everyone who use moneypot API will be building a gambling site with no risk at all correct? since you are using moneypot's bankroll and also that moneypot will handle user account and other things. Of course this is safer than any other new dice sites out there since moneypot wont be cheating the rolls

[BetterBets.io]

Just checked in tried the new speed-update you guys implemented. All I can say is WOW!!!!!!! I've never betted nearly as fast on any other site. Great stuff, you guys rock!

yep gotta say the site can be compared to the likes of coinichiwa and is much much faster for me than sites like Primedice which grind betting down when i play

Thank you for your review, hope you are having a good time.

Sorry to ask this, can you please clarify on this

Since you are using moneypot's balance for your bankroll, this means that you as an admin could play at the site as well and drain's moneypot balance isnt it since you know the server hash and could know whats the next roll will be?

No, this is not possible since our systems are more integrated than that. We don't generate the rolls (ie: server hash, salt & resulting roll) locally. Instead all of these are generated on the MoneyPot servers and we get them via an API call. So we have as much advance prior knowledge of future rolls as any other casual user of our site (ie: none).

Here are the the things we can't do:
- Pre-determine future rolls
- Manipulate rolls to influence their outcome
- Steal the MoneyPot bankroll assigned to our site
- etc.

Basically, by using our site you are guaranteed that we are unable to game the system in any way, shape or form.

Great question, they do use MoneyPot's balance as the bankroll and for that precise reason they don't have access to any privileged information. In fact, they know exactly as much as you know and you can actually create an app now ( https://www.moneypot.com/apps/new ) , and use the very same API that betterbets.io is using.

In the end will it be correct to assume that the owner of betterbets will be just like another normal user who play at the site since they will have no access to most things ? I assume the account thing is handled by moneypot as well since it is integrated with moneypot

Correct. The only thing we store locally which influence the behavior of your account/session, are the settings you can change in the "Your Account" section/sidebar which are:

1) Email Address (optional)
2) Client Seed
3) % of Raffle Tickets you wish to redeem

Of course we also keep some other data (rolls taken, wins, losses, amount wagered, etc) but these are purely for statistics purposes.

All other account fields (balance, server seed & bet generation, etc) are handled by Moneypot. We retrieve them via an API call and display them, but in terms of taking bets, we go through exactly the same process as any other/regular user. We have no inside knowledge of future bets and and thus are at no advantage whatsoever when compared to a regular user.

I see, then in the end everyone who use moneypot API will be building a gambling site with no risk at all correct? since you are using moneypot's bankroll and also that moneypot will handle user account and other things. Of course this is safer than any other new dice sites out there since moneypot wont be cheating the rolls

This is correct, we at BetterBets felt that to survive long term and dispel any doubts about our commitment to the Bitcoin Gambling industry it is the best route.
Our belief in Moneypot becoming a large company with much to offer made this decision easy, plus starting a business in this space isn't trivial and aligning
with already major players makes sense on too many levels to pass up. Hope you try our site, our community is beginning to grow and we have attracted some really good people
to converse with

[trafficolaa]

Just checked in tried the new speed-update you guys implemented. All I can say is WOW!!!!!!! I've never betted nearly as fast on any other site. Great stuff, you guys rock!

i also just tested this bet accelerator with auto-betting and it goes smoothly with super fast rolling dice, it has  similar rolling speed like fortunejack dice have, anyway this nice implementation to any dice site,
i think house edge for virtual racing is little high when a player has only 20% winning chance to reduce the house for horse racing to attract player for betting there.

[BetterBetsDev]

Just checked in tried the new speed-update you guys implemented. All I can say is WOW!!!!!!! I've never betted nearly as fast on any other site. Great stuff, you guys rock!

i also just tested this bet accelerator with auto-betting and it goes smoothly with super fast rolling dice, it has  similar rolling speed like fortunejack dice have, anyway this nice implementation to any dice site,
i think house edge for virtual racing is little high when a player has only 20% winning chance to reduce the house for horse racing to attract player for betting there.

It has the standard house edge of 1%, less during happy hour and active Luck Forging. Also, we're working on making the horse betting more varied, with varied odds, etc. but this will take a while ... but the horse game will improve dramatically in the future.

[Altcoin4life]

What is current max payout? I want to try some larger bets with luck forging activated.

[BetterBetsDev]

What is current max payout? I want to try some larger bets with luck forging activated.

May payout per bet right now is a little over 1BTC since we have a little over 100BTC in our bankroll (basically max-payout per bet is 1% of bankroll). We'll be talking to MoneyPot to increase this since with the heightened activity over the past few days, some players have come close to hitting that limit. We'll post here once we have an update on this.

[BetterBetsDev]

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Did you have a question? 

[bitstealth]

Just checked in tried the new speed-update you guys implemented. All I can say is WOW!!!!!!! I've never betted nearly as fast on any other site. Great stuff, you guys rock!

i also just tested this bet accelerator with auto-betting and it goes smoothly with super fast rolling dice, it has  similar rolling speed like fortunejack dice have, anyway this nice implementation to any dice site,
i think house edge for virtual racing is little high when a player has only 20% winning chance to reduce the house for horse racing to attract player for betting there.

It has the standard house edge of 1%, less during happy hour and active Luck Forging. Also, we're working on making the horse betting more varied, with varied odds, etc. but this will take a while ... but the horse game will improve dramatically in the future.

this nice news about horse betting i also like to put bets on them but the current graphics are not impressive and need much improvements there.

[BetterBetsDev]

Just checked in tried the new speed-update you guys implemented. All I can say is WOW!!!!!!! I've never betted nearly as fast on any other site. Great stuff, you guys rock!

i also just tested this bet accelerator with auto-betting and it goes smoothly with super fast rolling dice, it has  similar rolling speed like fortunejack dice have, anyway this nice implementation to any dice site,
i think house edge for virtual racing is little high when a player has only 20% winning chance to reduce the house for horse racing to attract player for betting there.

It has the standard house edge of 1%, less during happy hour and active Luck Forging. Also, we're working on making the horse betting more varied, with varied odds, etc. but this will take a while ... but the horse game will improve dramatically in the future.

this nice news about horse betting i also like to put bets on them but the current graphics are not impressive and need much improvements there.

To tell you the truth, we've debated about this internally quite a bit and came to the conclusion that we like the current 'cartoonish' (for lack of a better word) best. We had a more realistic set of graphics and we experimented with but it just didn't look right. We may revisit this issue at a later point in time, once the current madness of bug fixing and performance tuning subsides.

If anybody else has opinions about the horse race graphics (like them, hate them, ambivalent, etc.) I'd love to hear them.

[BetterBetsDev]

We rolled out another small update last night (see the dev post (2nd post of this thread) for details). A larger update with some new features will be pushed into production later today or tomorrow.

Now that our database is growing rather rapidly, we're busy performance testing/tuning and making sure that we deliver the best performance possible.

[AltcoinRambo]

Just checked in tried the new speed-update you guys implemented. All I can say is WOW!!!!!!! I've never betted nearly as fast on any other site. Great stuff, you guys rock!

i also just tested this bet accelerator with auto-betting and it goes smoothly with super fast rolling dice, it has  similar rolling speed like fortunejack dice have, anyway this nice implementation to any dice site,
i think house edge for virtual racing is little high when a player has only 20% winning chance to reduce the house for horse racing to attract player for betting there.

It has the standard house edge of 1%, less during happy hour and active Luck Forging. Also, we're working on making the horse betting more varied, with varied odds, etc. but this will take a while ... but the horse game will improve dramatically in the future.

this nice news about horse betting i also like to put bets on them but the current graphics are not impressive and need much improvements there.

To tell you the truth, we've debated about this internally quite a bit and came to the conclusion that we like the current 'cartoonish' (for lack of a better word) best. We had a more realistic set of graphics and we experimented with but it just didn't look right. We may revisit this issue at a later point in time, once the current madness of bug fixing and performance tuning subsides.

If anybody else has opinions about the horse race graphics (like them, hate them, ambivalent, etc.) I'd love to hear them.

I play the horse-race game from time to time and think it's fun. The graphics don't bother me, I actually think they're sort of cute (yeah, what a manly word to use from someone with my username  )

More options/choices/variations on the betting scenarios would be nice though.

[BetterBetsDev]

Just checked in tried the new speed-update you guys implemented. All I can say is WOW!!!!!!! I've never betted nearly as fast on any other site. Great stuff, you guys rock!

i also just tested this bet accelerator with auto-betting and it goes smoothly with super fast rolling dice, it has  similar rolling speed like fortunejack dice have, anyway this nice implementation to any dice site,
i think house edge for virtual racing is little high when a player has only 20% winning chance to reduce the house for horse racing to attract player for betting there.

It has the standard house edge of 1%, less during happy hour and active Luck Forging. Also, we're working on making the horse betting more varied, with varied odds, etc. but this will take a while ... but the horse game will improve dramatically in the future.

this nice news about horse betting i also like to put bets on them but the current graphics are not impressive and need much improvements there.

To tell you the truth, we've debated about this internally quite a bit and came to the conclusion that we like the current 'cartoonish' (for lack of a better word) best. We had a more realistic set of graphics and we experimented with but it just didn't look right. We may revisit this issue at a later point in time, once the current madness of bug fixing and performance tuning subsides.

If anybody else has opinions about the horse race graphics (like them, hate them, ambivalent, etc.) I'd love to hear them.

I play the horse-race game from time to time and think it's fun. The graphics don't bother me, I actually think they're sort of cute (yeah, what a manly word to use from someone with my username  )

More options/choices/variations on the betting scenarios would be nice though.

Yeah, we hear you. This will be happening, although when exactly is unclear at this point. We currently have a lot on our plate and already have definitive plans for some pretty cool site upgrades/additions.

[arallmuus]

I have been having this issue since the last 10 hours or so. I thought the problem would be because of my seedhash so I tried to change my seed hash but there is some error/bug there

It wont let me change my seed hash. I did input random number/words there and save it but after clicked save, the site automatically reload but my seedhash stayed the same . Even with the random generator button and saved it, the seedhash stayed the same and the site wont let me roll and it keeps showing

Code:

INVALID HASH

P.S : cant either play the horse race as well

[Altcoin4life]

I have been having this issue since the last 10 hours or so. I thought the problem would be because of my seedhash so I tried to change my seed hash but there is some error/bug there

It wont let me change my seed hash. I did input random number/words there and save it but after clicked save, the site automatically reload but my seedhash stayed the same . Even with the random generator button and saved it, the seedhash stayed the same and the site wont let me roll and it keeps showing

Code:

INVALID HASH

P.S : cant either play the horse race as well

Same thing happened to me I think their last update made a change to cookies. I just used ccleaner to clear all mine and haven't had an issue since. it was probably a security patch.

[BetterBetsDev]

I have been having this issue since the last 10 hours or so. I thought the problem would be because of my seedhash so I tried to change my seed hash but there is some error/bug there

It wont let me change my seed hash. I did input random number/words there and save it but after clicked save, the site automatically reload but my seedhash stayed the same . Even with the random generator button and saved it, the seedhash stayed the same and the site wont let me roll and it keeps showing

Code:

INVALID HASH

P.S : cant either play the horse race as well

Same thing happened to me I think their last update made a change to cookies. I just used ccleaner to clear all mine and haven't had an issue since. it was probably a security patch.

Yes, we did change something in the cookie management although I didn't think it would have such drastic consequences. In general, when you get persistent problems like this, the best source of action is to Logout and then log back in. That should resolve any issues.

[arallmuus]

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I have been having this issue since the last 10 hours or so. I thought the problem would be because of my seedhash so I tried to change my seed hash but there is some error/bug there

It wont let me change my seed hash. I did input random number/words there and save it but after clicked save, the site automatically reload but my seedhash stayed the same . Even with the random generator button and saved it, the seedhash stayed the same and the site wont let me roll and it keeps showing

Code:

INVALID HASH

P.S : cant either play the horse race as well

Same thing happened to me I think their last update made a change to cookies. I just used ccleaner to clear all mine and haven't had an issue since. it was probably a security patch.

Yes, we did change something in the cookie management although I didn't think it would have such drastic consequences. In general, when you get persistent problems like this, the best source of action is to Logout and then log back in. That should resolve any issues.

I did log out and it solved the error but another thing is I cant still change my seedhash , it stays the same although I have clicked on the save button (tried with both random generator and also manual input and it stays the same ) . FYI, I did erase the cookie already and tried with another browser. Perhaps you can take a look at this lobos or I could be the one having this issue though

P.S : actually not a big issue on my end since I dont really believe in "magic" seed hash or so

P.S 2 : a timestamp on the chat is a thing needed to add though

[BetterBetsDev]

-snip-
I have been having this issue since the last 10 hours or so. I thought the problem would be because of my seedhash so I tried to change my seed hash but there is some error/bug there

It wont let me change my seed hash. I did input random number/words there and save it but after clicked save, the site automatically reload but my seedhash stayed the same . Even with the random generator button and saved it, the seedhash stayed the same and the site wont let me roll and it keeps showing

Code:

INVALID HASH

P.S : cant either play the horse race as well

Same thing happened to me I think their last update made a change to cookies. I just used ccleaner to clear all mine and haven't had an issue since. it was probably a security patch.

Yes, we did change something in the cookie management although I didn't think it would have such drastic consequences. In general, when you get persistent problems like this, the best source of action is to Logout and then log back in. That should resolve any issues.

I did log out and it solved the error but another thing is I cant still change my seedhash , it stays the same although I have clicked on the save button (tried with both random generator and also manual input and it stays the same ) . FYI, I did erase the cookie already and tried with another browser. Perhaps you can take a look at this lobos or I could be the one having this issue though

P.S : actually not a big issue on my end since I dont really believe in "magic" seed hash or so

P.S 2 : a timestamp on the chat is a thing needed to add though

Yeah, I must have broken something, I'll take care of it tonight. Thanks for reporting.

Timestamp idea is noted. I'll take care of it.