Someone should make agar.io for bitcoins

[WhatTheGox]

Okay, I got sucked in and lost like 4 hours of my day the other day to this game.  I got to like 3rd at one point and oh my god.

But one thing I couldn't really figure out was how there doesn't end up being one blob that eats like the whole game.  Since I never got to 1st, I don't know, but how is it that one blob doesn't get to 1st and then become unbeatable and basically own the board?  Maybe it's because eventually one of those green things will appear in your stomach and burst you?

The are a few things which keep the big cells in check:

Every blob loses a small percentage of its mass each second. This becomes significant for large blobs.

The bigger you get, the slower you travel.

If you 'feed' a virus 8 (?) times, it will spit out a new virus. Small players can take advantage of this to shoot a new virus into you, blowing you into small pieces which they (or a friend) proceeds to eat.

I didn't realize about the shrinking---I figured that's the most logical way to keep the big guys from ruling forever, but I hadn't noticed the shrinking in playing.  I definitely didn't realize about the feeding a virus 8 times thing.  I saw the "spit out some mass" instruction but didn't know why it would be useful.  What a fun game anyway, I had a blast with it.

There must be somewhere that people are talking about tricks and strategies and whanot.

There are plenty of tips and tricks on youtube, i might put up one myself but i really should stop playing this game until its for real money.

I don't know how I missed this thread before but ... Yeah and it's going to be made seems like => https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1089536.msg11613163 , I gave that guy the link to the Agar.io source code (a clone not the real version) and now he is looking for developpers to make it with Bitcoins just like you said 

Cool, looks like the budget seems low though? not that i have much experience.   Hope it works out.

[deadlyunknown]

I don't know how I missed this thread before but ... Yeah and it's going to be made seems like => https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1089536.msg11613163 , I gave that guy the link to the Agar.io source code (a clone not the real version) and now he is looking for developpers to make it with Bitcoins just like you said 

Now kids will bet with BTC because of this game.

[WhatTheGox]

I don't know how I missed this thread before but ... Yeah and it's going to be made seems like => https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1089536.msg11613163 , I gave that guy the link to the Agar.io source code (a clone not the real version) and now he is looking for developpers to make it with Bitcoins just like you said 

Now kids will bet with BTC because of this game.

Just like taking candy from a baby  i will take all their dinner money like a playground bully MUHAHAHAHA

[siwakotisaurav]

Someone should make agar.io for bitcoins

That's funny, I've been thinking the exact same thing every time I play it.

Same here as well, would love to give fees for playing if only I could get that feel of winning btcs just by playing a simple(hard and addictive) game xD. Someone make this fast.

[XinXan]

It would be really cool if something like that was implemented and anyone could create a room where other people can come but have to pay the fee the owner of the room makes, say i want to make a room with 0.001 fee and the winner gets everything, maybe let everyone have more than 1 life, maybe 2 or 3, anyhow this is a really cool idea.

[shanem]

I don't know how I missed this thread before but ... Yeah and it's going to be made seems like => https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1089536.msg11613163 , I gave that guy the link to the Agar.io source code (a clone not the real version) and now he is looking for developpers to make it with Bitcoins just like you said 

Now kids will bet with BTC because of this game.

Just like taking candy from a baby  i will take all their dinner money like a playground bully MUHAHAHAHA

I can forsee that a few 'experts' will dominate the game and take away btc from everyone else.

[shulio]

It would be really cool if something like that was implemented and anyone could create a room where other people can come but have to pay the fee the owner of the room makes, say i want to make a room with 0.001 fee and the winner gets everything, maybe let everyone have more than 1 life, maybe 2 or 3, anyhow this is a really cool idea.

The concept of peer game betting is almost like Poker I guess. If someone make this game for bitcoin , you can market it like poker which has some GTD room and also freerolls. Much better is that the site owner could get a profit from people purchasing an extra life , extra life will keep your blob to not lose its mass

[BetterBets.io]

We looked into this as well the problem is making it provably fair when skill based games are clearly not. It is great for pvp based betting but then all the highly skilled players just destroy the newbies usually turning them away from the game. For us it was one of those "We would love to make this, but in time who will really play when it is dominated by those with god-like skill and/or extreme bots?" Making a game provably fair often takes some or much of the fun factor away from gaming, it is one of those deals where fairness and skill do not intertwine very well or easily.

[WhatTheGox]

I don't know how I missed this thread before but ... Yeah and it's going to be made seems like => https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1089536.msg11613163 , I gave that guy the link to the Agar.io source code (a clone not the real version) and now he is looking for developpers to make it with Bitcoins just like you said  

Now kids will bet with BTC because of this game.

Just like taking candy from a baby   i will take all their dinner money like a playground bully MUHAHAHAHA

I can forsee that a few 'experts' will dominate the game and take away btc from everyone else.

Yes but like poker right, the players at the very top of the game are basically unbeatable, they dont play against eachother without a fish in the game to feed off of.

We looked into this as well the problem is making it provably fair when skill based games are clearly not. It is great for pvp based betting but then all the highly skilled players just destroy the newbies usually turning them away from the game. For us it was one of those "We would love to make this, but in time who will really play when it is dominated by those with god-like skill and/or extreme bots?" Making a game provably fair often takes some or much of the fun factor away from gaming, it is one of those deals where fairness and skill do not intertwine very well or easily.

Let look at 2 things seperate a minute:

God like skill is great for the games and will attract even more players.  All other games where humans can show a great deal of skill works out very well.

Bots may or may not be a problem, i've still yet to see any bots for this game which are any good.  Please link them up anyone.

I think the game is mabye too complex for someone with a bot to dominate and be unbeatable (maybe thats just atm).  They said that bots would dominate NL poker and 10 years later the games still run and bots cant dominate in the NL format since its still too complex.  Software in poker can give an advantage.

To give a practical example how would you code a bot to auto dodge a virus being shot at them in this game?

[davey111111]

Guys! I'm almost finished with my version of this.
I'll make a thread about it when i'm ready to launch.

Right now its setup like this...
[1] Generate unique BTC address for users to send to
[2] Click the "Play with BTC" button and there is a client + server side check to make sure the required amount of btc has been deposited in the address
[3] If the check passes then put the user in the game.

This is all I have so far, so the next thing is to keep track of the user's kills and process their withdraws.

This is what i'm thinking:
It costs 0.001 BTC to enter the game. (~$0.25)
When you eat another player you gain their 0.001 BTC buy-in AND 50% of the kills they earned.
When you want to withdraw you must be in the top 10 players AND after requesting a withdraw you have to stay alive for 30 seconds. (to prevent frequent combat logging)

So if you are in the game and eat 10 people you could potentially earn... 0.01 BTC - 0.03 BTC+ or higher depending on their kills.
However, if you die you walk away with nothing.

Here's a little more info..
I'm running the server on a pc that i revived from my basement (not too bad).
It'll be hosted out of west coast Canada.
If I start earning decent money with this I will look into hosting in other areas and upgrading my internet speed to improve your user experience.

I think I want to add some type of in-game chat system to keep everything a little more lively.
The source code I used for this is basically an exact replica of the original game.

If anyone wants custom skins in the game LMK!

[Slark]

Guys! I'm almost finished with my version of this.
I'll make a thread about it when i'm ready to launch.

Right now its setup like this...
[1] Generate unique BTC address for users to send to
[2] Click the "Play with BTC" button and there is a client + server side check to make sure the required amount of btc has been deposited in the address
[3] If the check passes then put the user in the game.

This is all I have so far, so the next thing is to keep track of the user's kills and process their withdraws.

This is what i'm thinking:
It costs 0.001 BTC to enter the game. (~$0.25)
When you eat another player you gain their 0.001 BTC buy-in AND 50% of the kills they earned.
When you want to withdraw you must be in the top 10 players AND after requesting a withdraw you have to stay alive for 30 seconds. (to prevent frequent combat logging)

So if you are in the game and eat 10 people you could potentially earn... 0.01 BTC - 0.03 BTC+ or higher depending on their kills.
However, if you die you walk away with nothing.

Here's a little more info..
I'm running the server on a pc that i revived from my basement (not too bad).
It'll be hosted out of west coast Canada.
If I start earning decent money with this I will look into hosting in other areas and upgrading my internet speed to improve your user experience.

I think I want to add some type of in-game chat system to keep everything a little more lively.
The source code I used for this is basically an exact replica of the original game.

If anyone wants custom skins in the game LMK!

I like Agar.io and I was hoenstlu suprised that someone here alredy thought of bitcoin version of that game. It is very interesting news.
So you want to profit from this, but from what I could see you won't take fees from the players. How do you want earn? Ads revenue?
Will there be a testing mode where you can play without entry fee?

[davey111111]

I like Agar.io and I was hoenstlu suprised that someone here alredy thought of bitcoin version of that game. It is very interesting news.
So you want to profit from this, but from what I could see you won't take fees from the players. How do you want earn? Ads revenue?

I will profit from the game. No straight fees but rather I will earn from the death of the players.
When you kill someone you earn their 0.001 BTC fee + 50% of their kills.
The other 50% of the their kills will be lost and go to me.

So, if you kill someone that has 4 kills, you earn...

- their 0.001 entry fee
- 0.002 (50% of their kills)

That other 0.002 will go to me, partially to help improve the stability and performance of the servers.
Its not a straight out % fee, but I think it'll be better this way. I don't think it will be worthwhile to put ads on the site so i'm not going to bother.

[tspacepilot]

I like Agar.io and I was hoenstlu suprised that someone here alredy thought of bitcoin version of that game. It is very interesting news.
So you want to profit from this, but from what I could see you won't take fees from the players. How do you want earn? Ads revenue?

I will profit from the game. No straight fees but rather I will earn from the death of the players.
When you kill someone you earn their 0.001 BTC fee + 50% of their kills.
The other 50% of the their kills will be lost and go to me.

So, if you kill someone that has 4 kills, you earn...

- their 0.001 entry fee
- 0.002 (50% of their kills)

That other 0.002 will go to me, partially to help improve the stability and performance of the servers.
Its not a straight out % fee, but I think it'll be better this way. I don't think it will be worthwhile to put ads on the site so i'm not going to bother.

But agar.io's base unit doesn't seem to be "kills" but mass.  In your system, killing a fresh guy who just bought in is worth as much as a giant.  And not all giants got big from kills.  You can get reasonbly large from consuming the food the appears. I really think you want to consider kills to be an artifact and consider mass as the real unit for calculation.

[WhatTheGox]

Something i was thinking about IF.... bots became a huge problem in the future (im still not sure) then you could just not allow instant cash out and review some actions.  Obviously the site would have to become popular to justify time and enery policing games and to even have a review feature.  Again with poker, you dont get instant cash outs (on fiat sites at least) and actions can be reviewed. 

Certain bots/software could be ok and others not. We just need a game where skill is the #1 weapon, doesnt have to be perfect.

[CrimeDice]

Go to www.agar.io and after the page loads completply type the following into your URL field (manually): javascript:connect("ws://194.63.143.136:443") and press enter, then choose a nickname.

This is our Free for All Server

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if this wallet balance reaches 0.1 BTC i will launch a Fresh Agar gameserver and after 24h, the first 3 people in leaderboard get prices

1# will get 0.05 BTC
2# will get 0.03 BTC
3# will get 0.01 BTC

[SyGambler]

We looked into this as well the problem is making it provably fair when skill based games are clearly not. It is great for pvp based betting but then all the highly skilled players just destroy the newbies usually turning them away from the game. For us it was one of those "We would love to make this, but in time who will really play when it is dominated by those with god-like skill and/or extreme bots?" Making a game provably fair often takes some or much of the fun factor away from gaming, it is one of those deals where fairness and skill do not intertwine very well or easily.

it's normal thing , in many games skills play part of the game
in agar yes maybe it's all about being good at the game without luck involved
but there are many players and ready to compete with others even if they are not very good at the game
and you can see here a lot of people are interested in this game and they will for sure throw some coins
by the way I suck at agar but I find this idea of making it as a gambling platform really great and unique 

[rexxarofmoknathal]

Love the idea, definitely something I would play tons! The gambling aspect can make a lot of great games even more fun, if there are proper anti-cheat measures taken.

[WhatTheGox]

I like Agar.io and I was hoenstlu suprised that someone here alredy thought of bitcoin version of that game. It is very interesting news.
So you want to profit from this, but from what I could see you won't take fees from the players. How do you want earn? Ads revenue?

I will profit from the game. No straight fees but rather I will earn from the death of the players.
When you kill someone you earn their 0.001 BTC fee + 50% of their kills.
The other 50% of the their kills will be lost and go to me.

So, if you kill someone that has 4 kills, you earn...

- their 0.001 entry fee
- 0.002 (50% of their kills)

That other 0.002 will go to me, partially to help improve the stability and performance of the servers.
Its not a straight out % fee, but I think it'll be better this way. I don't think it will be worthwhile to put ads on the site so i'm not going to bother.

But agar.io's base unit doesn't seem to be "kills" but mass.  In your system, killing a fresh guy who just bought in is worth as much as a giant.  And not all giants got big from kills.  You can get reasonbly large from consuming the food the appears. I really think you want to consider kills to be an artifact and consider mass as the real unit for calculation.

This is a good point to consider.  Rewarding kills will make the game play differently for sure but that might not be a bad thing, who knows until we see it in action.   It wont be worth killing anyone blob who is small (not with 4 kills) in this version appart from making yourself bigger in mass to kill other bigger blobs, maybe that could help stop super teams dominating and not even letting the little guys get going.

Again you could always have options to play either a mass rewarding game or the kill rewarding game.  I'm really happy if anyone is making any version so we can make suggestions after its up.

Make it possible for skilled players to be +ev with a fair fees and there is tons of money for the right developers to make here.  

[sgk]

Looks like someone started working on it after all:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1102055.0

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