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June 01, 2015, 01:40:30 PM
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No it's not looking good for heroin addicts in the West, I remember watching a speech from the ex UK ambassador to Uzbekistan (think it was on the Real News Network) and he reported see dozens of US military trucks fully loaded with opium. Kind of flies in the face of the official War on Drugs.

The Russian sources have always claimed that besides helping the poppy cultivators in Afghanistan (by providing equipment, fertilizer and pesticide), the NATO also helps the smugglers to transport the opium across the international borders. They transport the opium either North-ward (through Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, to Russia), or West-ward (to Iran and Azerbaijan).

Doesn't surprise me at all. Not a bad earner for NATO really, get paid $7 billion for pretending to "eradicate" opium whilst getting paid to help smuggle it out of Afghanistan.
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June 01, 2015, 02:42:38 PM
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I just finished watching the Deep Web documentary. I wasn't really familiar with the story until now.
Have they revealed how they located servers that were supposedly very hard to find because of TOR?
I'm quite interested.

The more information that I find, the more it becomes clear that they accumulated most of the information in illegal means. They actually prosecute people for doing what they did in the Silk Road case.

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June 01, 2015, 04:36:27 PM
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I've been self employed for a decade, didn't "cut corners" and wasn't "priced out".  Maybe your experience tells you something different.
That's great, and useless information. Anecdotes are fun, but data paints the real picture. Anti-competitive practices by rent-seeking billion dollar transnationals and hardcore corruption are the name of the game for modern capitalism. Democracy languishes.

Justice is thoroughly anti-social and largely farcical. This system is well beyond reform.

Not quite sure what that has to do with karma but thanks for sharing.

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June 01, 2015, 07:24:14 PM
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June 03, 2015, 07:42:50 AM
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this is a stupidly long sentence that even overshoots what the prosecution wanted, and will likely be appealed and reduced. he won't spend life
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June 03, 2015, 08:27:15 AM
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I just finished watching the Deep Web documentary. I wasn't really familiar with the story until now.
Have they revealed how they located servers that were supposedly very hard to find because of TOR?
I'm quite interested.


The more information that I find, the more it becomes clear that they accumulated most of the information in illegal means. They actually prosecute people for doing what they did in the Silk Road case.


No, and that's what's alarming about the whole thing. To me it seems very reasonable they got the info by hacking. If that is true who knows what evidence they could have planted on the servers or even Ross' laptop. I'm not saying that did happen but it also wouldn't surprise me if someone in the FBI used dirty tricks. We already know there was two dirty cops working undercover and they were the ones that set the whole murder for hire charge up in the first place so what else did they do to get the charges to stick.
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June 03, 2015, 08:30:50 AM
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This is fucked, personally I think he should get let off the hook...

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June 03, 2015, 09:42:06 AM
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Does somebody know, why Ross has given the passwords to his Bitcoin wallets to the feds?

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June 03, 2015, 09:52:34 AM
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Does somebody know, why Ross has given the passwords to his Bitcoin wallets to the feds?

He didn't. I believe they cracked them (or GCHQ did).
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June 03, 2015, 09:57:42 AM
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Does somebody know, why Ross has given the passwords to his Bitcoin wallets to the feds?

He didn't. I believe they cracked them (or GCHQ did).

Bruteforce? Rly?

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June 03, 2015, 10:04:14 AM
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This will be looked back on just like we perceive witch hunts today. Smiley

The same way the fall of gox gave way for more professional attempts, the fall of SR pushed darknet markets to the next level.
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June 03, 2015, 10:22:04 AM
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Does somebody know, why Ross has given the passwords to his Bitcoin wallets to the feds?

He didn't. I believe they cracked them (or GCHQ did).

Bruteforce? Rly?

I doubt his passwords were that complex. It only takes computers minutes to bruteforce dictionary passwords though. I'm sure they also had access to his web passwords stored in his browser so that may have given them a head start. I'd like to know if they managed to get every single one of his coins. If not I wonder what Ross plans to do with the others? If he had back ups somewhere he could have got a friend or family member to transfer them to another wallet or he could have done this whilst he was arrested. Surely he wasn't dumb enough to just have one copy on his laptop.
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June 03, 2015, 10:23:18 AM
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Does somebody know, why Ross has given the passwords to his Bitcoin wallets to the feds?

He didn't. I believe they cracked them (or GCHQ did).

Bruteforce? Rly?

A reddit posts says they arrested him when his laptop was open and he had his wallet on there unencrypted. If it's true then he took almost no precautions to secure his 150k Bitcoins, and there was no need to bruteforce crack a password.

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June 03, 2015, 10:55:54 AM
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Does somebody know, why Ross has given the passwords to his Bitcoin wallets to the feds?

He didn't. I believe they cracked them (or GCHQ did).

Bruteforce? Rly?

A reddit posts says they arrested him when his laptop was open and he had his wallet on there unencrypted. If it's true then he took almost no precautions to secure his 150k Bitcoins, and there was no need to bruteforce crack a password.

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I heard his laptop had been open and his wallet unencrypted when they arrested him.

He didn't learn anything from his mentor Variety Jones.

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June 03, 2015, 10:56:57 AM
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Does somebody know, why Ross has given the passwords to his Bitcoin wallets to the feds?

He didn't. I believe they cracked them (or GCHQ did).

Bruteforce? Rly?

A reddit posts says they arrested him when his laptop was open and he had his wallet on there unencrypted. If it's true then he took almost no precautions to secure his 150k Bitcoins, and there was no need to bruteforce crack a password.

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I heard his laptop had been open and his wallet unencrypted when they arrested him.

I know Ross did some pretty stupid things but I doubt he was stupid enough to leave his wallets unencrypted on a computer. The inital money the feds took was directly from the SR's escrow funds, however it took them quite some time to get his personal funds from what I gather: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/oct/07/fbi-bitcoin-silk-road-ross-ulbricht
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June 03, 2015, 11:02:12 AM
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Does somebody know, why Ross has given the passwords to his Bitcoin wallets to the feds?

He didn't. I believe they cracked them (or GCHQ did).

Bruteforce? Rly?

A reddit posts says they arrested him when his laptop was open and he had his wallet on there unencrypted. If it's true then he took almost no precautions to secure his 150k Bitcoins, and there was no need to bruteforce crack a password.

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I heard his laptop had been open and his wallet unencrypted when they arrested him.

I know Ross did some pretty stupid things but I doubt he was stupid enough to leave his wallets unencrypted on a computer. The inital money the feds took was directly from the SR's escrow funds, however it took them quite some time to get his personal funds from what I gather: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/oct/07/fbi-bitcoin-silk-road-ross-ulbricht
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FBI struggles to seize 600,000 Bitcoins from alleged Silk Road founder
Having seized 26,000 Bitcoins belonging to site users, authorities battle to control Ross Ulbricht's personal wallet

So it really does seem like they had to bruteforce the passwords ... which if they could means Ross' OpSec was really that bad. (No offense to him though, I really feel for the guy.)

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June 03, 2015, 11:27:12 AM
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Does the money confiscated go into some anti drug charity or something? Hmm, dumb question, I see.

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June 03, 2015, 11:32:07 AM
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Does the money confiscated go into some anti drug charity or something? Hmm, dumb question, I see.

I believe they sold the bitcoin and it was applied to his debt. Sad part is he still owes a lot of money.
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June 03, 2015, 12:14:31 PM
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Does the money confiscated go into some anti drug charity or something? Hmm, dumb question, I see.

I believe they sold the bitcoin and it was applied to his debt. Sad part is he still owes a lot of money.

Yeah, they sold the Bitcoins, but where is the money going to?

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