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September 12, 2012, 02:18:52 PM
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I can't blame pirate for my stupidity, and neither can you.

Uh, so this mentality is supposed to disincentivize scammers? *scratches head*

EDIT: Let me elaborate. Anyone can get scammed, depending on the resourcefulness of the scammer. No sort of research will guarantee an investment. This doesn't mean that thorough research doesn't help, but you want to develop the means to go after scammers as well. For example, why do you trust a person with validated identity more than an anonymous guy, other than it making it easier for you to after them? It all takes a very resourceful sociopath to make it impossible to do any business across borders with Bitcoin, if all you will do is to blame the victims. What if BFL just decides to take the money and disappear tomorrow (stupid example I know, but some people think it's likely)? I'm sure some people will be dancing around the forum blaming the "suckers".

If a trusted member of the forum takes on the task to hire a private investigator, I'd chip in. Goat isn't suitable for this for obvious reasons.
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September 12, 2012, 02:20:50 PM
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http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/linkscopy/silenttruth.html

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September 12, 2012, 02:36:00 PM
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Sorry the third tag was not ment for blindness and stupidity, cause thats too relative but for groupthink and ignorance

which applies for the above ! and is off topic !

Again, this thread is called :    Going after Trendon Shavers, Pirateat40, BTCST

Everybody who wants that the traces of his loot remain uncovered open their own thread please as:

I want twiddle thumps because the wonderful humpty - dumpty of Bitcointrust is going to be put together by himself

Thanks Zyk
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September 12, 2012, 05:45:40 PM
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I can't blame pirate for my stupidity, and neither can you.

Uh, so this mentality is supposed to disincentivize scammers? *scratches head*

EDIT: Let me elaborate. Anyone can get scammed, depending on the resourcefulness of the scammer. No sort of research will guarantee an investment. This doesn't mean that thorough research doesn't help, but you want to develop the means to go after scammers as well. For example, why do you trust a person with validated identity more than an anonymous guy, other than it making it easier for you to after them? It all takes a very resourceful sociopath to make it impossible to do any business across borders with Bitcoin, if all you will do is to blame the victims. What if BFL just decides to take the money and disappear tomorrow (stupid example I know, but some people think it's likely)? I'm sure some people will be dancing around the forum blaming the "suckers".

If a trusted member of the forum takes on the task to hire a private investigator, I'd chip in. Goat isn't suitable for this for obvious reasons.


Still the problem of this forum is, that there is no tag for groupthink and ignorance, at least you seem to be able to learn thinking for yourself by wanting to chip in privat

investigation. But rather to let it be done by a "trusted member" (cause we know what that OTC ratings and groupthinkshit is worth now)  may I advice you, to just PM

or propose the member in this forum you would trust most ? The most suited member for me would be BinaryMage....hopefully that won´t get him the ignorance tag Wink

Any volunteers , anyone connected in McKinney ?
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September 12, 2012, 05:58:40 PM
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Did you miss the "ObviousSock" part?  That's the sign to click "Ignore". :-)

Did I miss a useful post of you or is it deleted ? Are connected to Vegas....forgot your socks there?

So everything else you took from there including yourself is useless ?  I knew already!

Cheers Zyk

P.S This is the chance, sweetie reeses, to hand Zyk his ass back to him Wink
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September 13, 2012, 12:15:34 PM
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You are putting words in my mouth, of course, like a true troll...

I am advocating for a radical change in direction, far far away from any of these so called "investments".

And whiners who lost money in the latest scam, should eat their losses, and accept that they too were conspirators of an obvious ponzi scheme.

This is all of course if they truly care about Bitcoin and would like to see it succeed.  

If people want to go on a virtual witch hunt, I honestly couldn't think of anything more detrimental to Bitcoin.

It will just prolong this entire incident, and cause even more pain and losses.

IF they don't care about Bitcoin, then I really am not interested in giving those type of people even one minute of my time.

The reality is that people will do what they feel they need to do, whether you are talking about cash, gold or Bitcoins. Lives have been lost over gold and cash, yet it doesn't invalidate them. The Bitcoin "community" already extends far beyond this forum. You can't expect to control what people do and don't do with their coins, just like you can't tell people what to do with their gold and cash.

What nonsense.
A lot of people would want hang pirate, but i don't see them doing what they feel they need to do.
Meanwhile, pirate was very prolific at telling people what to do with their coins.
What you write about is not how reality is unfolding.
Human interactions just don't work that superficially.
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September 13, 2012, 12:19:06 PM
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Another pirate thread devolved into useless blather

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September 13, 2012, 12:20:45 PM
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I can't blame pirate for my stupidity, and neither can you.

Uh, so this mentality is supposed to disincentivize scammers? *scratches head*

EDIT: Let me elaborate. Anyone can get scammed, depending on the resourcefulness of the scammer. No sort of research will guarantee an investment. This doesn't mean that thorough research doesn't help, but you want to develop the means to go after scammers as well. For example, why do you trust a person with validated identity more than an anonymous guy, other than it making it easier for you to after them? It all takes a very resourceful sociopath to make it impossible to do any business across borders with Bitcoin, if all you will do is to blame the victims. What if BFL just decides to take the money and disappear tomorrow (stupid example I know, but some people think it's likely)? I'm sure some people will be dancing around the forum blaming the "suckers".

If a trusted member of the forum takes on the task to hire a private investigator, I'd chip in. Goat isn't suitable for this for obvious reasons.


Still the problem of this forum is, that there is no tag for groupthink and ignorance, at least you seem to be able to learn thinking for yourself by wanting to chip in privat

investigation. But rather to let it be done by a "trusted member" (cause we know what that OTC ratings and groupthinkshit is worth now)  may I advice you, to just PM

or propose the member in this forum you would trust most ? The most suited member for me would be BinaryMage....hopefully that won´t get him the ignorance tag Wink

Any volunteers , anyone connected in McKinney ?

No, the problem with this board is that it is being used in ways it should not be used.
No ammount of tagging will help that.
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September 13, 2012, 05:47:02 PM
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Another pirate thread devolved into useless blather


Thanks to you !!

Cheers Zyk
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September 16, 2012, 09:54:25 AM
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Here is one related post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=109363.0 (thanks Joric from IRC)
Hopefully it gets moved to a proper forum. 

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September 17, 2012, 12:38:40 AM
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Here is one related post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=109363.0 (thanks Joric from IRC)
Hopefully it gets moved to a proper forum. 

+1. I think his advice was very helpful, as well.

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September 18, 2012, 12:06:04 AM
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WTF happened to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108657.0 ? Was that the info consolidation thread that BA was running? I can't find that thread either..

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September 18, 2012, 12:15:02 AM
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WTF happened to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108657.0 ? Was that the info consolidation thread that BA was running? I can't find that thread either..

It was deleted.

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September 18, 2012, 12:34:02 AM
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WTF happened to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108657.0 ? Was that the info consolidation thread that BA was running? I can't find that thread either..

It was deleted.

Why? By whom?

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September 18, 2012, 12:55:47 AM
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WTF happened to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108657.0 ? Was that the info consolidation thread that BA was running? I can't find that thread either..

It was deleted.

Why? By whom?

By BA himself.

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September 18, 2012, 01:04:55 AM
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Well, that's half an answer.

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September 18, 2012, 01:15:17 AM
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Well, that's half an answer.
Why? Probably because of pirate threatning the ones who sued him would not see a dime.

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September 18, 2012, 01:30:49 AM
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Well, that's half an answer.
Why? Probably because of pirate threatning the ones who sued him would not see a dime.

I must have missed this. Whoever believes it is a damn fool.

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September 18, 2012, 02:19:14 AM
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Well, that's half an answer.
Why? Probably because of pirate threatning the ones who sued him would not see a dime.

I must have missed this. Whoever believes it is a damn fool.

Well, if you put your money in BS&T...you sort of are to begin with.
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September 18, 2012, 03:07:52 AM
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Considering he's offered no evidence of his ability to pay In Oct or any other time, there's nothing to be scared of. Why take the word of a liar now?

The one mistake (imo only) that's being made is publishing all this, plans need to be quiet and confidential. When we used to plan the takeover of software companies, we never put the thinking into the newspaper so they could poison pill themselves.
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