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There are a lot of people that want to get to Mars and if Mars One shows they are capable of organizing the whole thing they will get a ton of donations from many companies. No one company will be able to get to Mars. It will require the cooperation of many companies and probably governments.
First of all, let the Mars Rover get back to earth safely, then let NASA think to land the human there. It is not as such as easy to land in Mars and start a life from the day one, No one cannot predict that, what will the dangerous effect will happen to the skins once they touch those planets. It is indeed a hazardous adventures and no one dare to dreamed off such scenario.
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June 21, 2015, 05:42:16 PM |
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how it is a scam if they are not requesting any money, but they are offering everything? i can't see as a scam sincerely Yup, I think someone already in the forum shown that this project was indeed a scam but i don't remember who it was but just googling it the Mars One project there are so many valid scam accusations about it. Yes, it is a scam. We do not have the technology to create a self supporting biosphere system on Mars. Neither to jump start any industrial or maintenance of Earth built equipment. Think in terms of how to make a fabric, a brick, a metal rod, basic stuff... well we don't have it yet, but in 10 years something will change, i presume The only person Who really has the capability to put humans on mars and create a stable civilization is Elon Musk. Other than that, I have heard about an experiment done on earth itself to create an alternate biosphere and around 500,million dollars were spent on it but it was a huge failure. This 'non-profit organisation' is led by a CEO I have never heard before much about, in space world and I don't know if I would sit on that seat to mars which is led by someone I have never even heard about ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I totally agree with you, sir. Elon Musk is the perfect man to send humanity right up in space. All his ventures, all of his work for humanity is commendable. That's the right way to go, the Elon Musk route. And talking about Mars one? Delayed their timeline, corruption crawling inside the system, rumors of seats being 'bought'. Come on. BS.
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June 21, 2015, 06:40:48 PM |
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REASON NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT IT IS BECAUSE IT IS A FUCKING CRASH PROJECT. They delayed their timeline, killed their own hype and then people say the seats were sold. What's the whole point of sending the most qualified first civilization to populate mars then? Same genes which feel they can buy everything with money. Sadly, they'd be right...
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June 21, 2015, 08:48:46 PM Last edit: June 21, 2015, 09:34:53 PM by pedrog |
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how it is a scam if they are not requesting any money, but they are offering everything? i can't see as a scam sincerely It's probably more of a publicity stunt or attention seeking by the fantasist who created it than a traditional scam, but I think they might have charged people a fee to review their applications and they're selling merchandise etc but regardless of their motives one thing is for sure it's not going to happen as there's not the money or technology for it. Well, we don't know that for sure as of now. It's what will happen over the span of the next 10 years that will dictate whether this mission will become a reality or a complete fail. It will never happen, it will keep being delayed over and over again, it already was postponed, initial schedule was to get humans on Mars by 2023, IIRC.
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June 21, 2015, 09:01:26 PM |
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Yup, I think someone already in the forum shown that this project was indeed a scam but i don't remember who it was but just googling it the Mars One project there are so many valid scam accusations about it. Yes, it is a scam. We do not have the technology to create a self supporting biosphere system on Mars. Neither to jump start any industrial or maintenance of Earth built equipment. Think in terms of how to make a fabric, a brick, a metal rod, basic stuff...i agree completely if we cannot even get the basic necessities how is the settlement suppose to be successful its not surprising though that a scam like these gets attention because who wouldn't want to go live on mars It wouldn't surprise me one bit if someone or some group took this challenge on, and flat out announced their goal was to put people on the Red Planet. They could then announce progress on the various necessary tasks and ISRU (in situ resource utilization). If people funded that, it is not impossible that one, two or three decades later the answer to the questions of necessities is "Yes, yes and yes." At such a point in time, then they'd say - "Now all we need is rockets." That's NOT the difficult part of the equation.
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June 21, 2015, 09:47:25 PM |
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how it is a scam if they are not requesting any money, but they are offering everything? i can't see as a scam sincerely It's probably more of a publicity stunt or attention seeking by the fantasist who created it than a traditional scam, but I think they might have charged people a fee to review their applications and they're selling merchandise etc but regardless of their motives one thing is for sure it's not going to happen as there's not the money or technology for it. Well, we don't know that for sure as of now. It's what will happen over the span of the next 10 years that will dictate whether this mission will become a reality or a complete fail. It will never happen, it will keep being delayed over and over again, it already was postponed, initial schedule was to get humans on Mars by 2023, IIRC. It could be a way they can get more funds to fund their personal needs. I think this not a government project but i private company is the one responsible for this shenanigans and they have been asking for donations and asking participants to pay when they have passed some tests/interviews.
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June 21, 2015, 11:53:21 PM |
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if mars is real and human could live in mars, and if its better than living in this earth i bet that the only human could live there must reach,have power (goverment,military,etc) and famous ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) so what about poor people?
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June 22, 2015, 12:03:58 AM |
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if mars is real and human could live in mars, and if its better than living in this earth i bet that the only human could live there must reach,have power (goverment,military,etc) and famous ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) so what about poor people? If people were to successfully populate Mars, probably it will be a Mars Vs Earth could lead to a planetary war.
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June 22, 2015, 02:07:56 AM |
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if mars is real and human could live in mars, and if its better than living in this earth i bet that the only human could live there must reach,have power (goverment,military,etc) and famous ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) so what about poor people? If people were to successfully populate Mars, probably it will be a Mars Vs Earth could lead to a planetary war. Because life on Mars would be a life of extreme, unimaginable poverty. Think in terms of trucking a couple thousand cubic meters of rock and dirt and sand 200 miles inland at the South Pole, giving a couple people about 2000 lb of supplies and a small habitat, and telling them that's where they will live out their lives. Anything they have to have, they must make from that raw material.
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June 22, 2015, 02:35:59 AM |
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Isnt that great going to mars. But government should only take some steps ahead
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June 22, 2015, 09:27:55 AM |
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June 22, 2015, 09:53:17 AM |
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Isnt that great going to mars. But government should only take some steps ahead
Its nothing to do with gov afaik. Wasnt it going to be a private company and they fund the opperation via donations and making it a kind of reality show during the process and make advert revenue?
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June 22, 2015, 10:20:16 AM |
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Is this the Mars Journey where people to be sent to Mars will live there forever?
Two women from my country are part of that team.
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June 22, 2015, 10:26:56 AM |
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REASON NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT IT IS BECAUSE IT IS A FUCKING CRASH PROJECT. They delayed their timeline, killed their own hype and then people say the seats were sold. What's the whole point of sending the most qualified first civilization to populate mars then? Same genes which feel they can buy everything with money. Sadly, they'd be right...
They delayed their timeline because expansion of the project base, though. And I think the seats weren't sold, but traded for something better than money. The CEO says that the plan will be bigger, better and smoother than before. All it will take is some time. Bullshit, I say. Another 'technical delay' coming soon. Meanwhile, the hype dies.
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June 22, 2015, 12:35:25 PM |
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Just the idea of laying down chilling on mars looking at earth, i would feel sad and awesome.
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June 22, 2015, 07:08:53 PM |
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REASON NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT IT IS BECAUSE IT IS A FUCKING CRASH PROJECT. They delayed their timeline, killed their own hype and then people say the seats were sold. What's the whole point of sending the most qualified first civilization to populate mars then? Same genes which feel they can buy everything with money. Sadly, they'd be right...
They delayed their timeline because expansion of the project base, though. And I think the seats weren't sold, but traded for something better than money. The CEO says that the plan will be bigger, better and smoother than before. All it will take is some time. Bullshit, I say. Another 'technical delay' coming soon. Meanwhile, the hype dies. What is something better than money on earth right now? The technical delays have already happened so i dont really think it might happen again, and if the hype was dead, they wouldn't manage to still be in the news. They somehow seem to be doing really well, and are well funded too.
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September 01, 2015, 01:12:51 AM |
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You may think getting and living on mars is dream come true. thinks again.
First mars has a thin atmosphere so mars has a very weak agains meteorites and asteroids.
Second mars has a weak magnetic field, unlike earth being protected by its huge magnetic field. mars has a very small and weak one. having a magnetic field protects us from solar flares and solar radiation sun produces. and when mars got hit by a solar radiation even with the most advance protection agains radiation we have it will be useless resulting to instant death.
Third is the gravity, sure mars has a weak gravitational force but be warned. because of it your body will try and adopt to the new enviroment. your bones will weaken then your body will start to change. i know it sounds like a science fiction but our body adopt to new inviroments.
im sure you`ll learn a lot but learning what your going to face outside earth and go the unknown and deathtrap place i`ll be happy staying here. hearing they`re progress. and if they`re expedition is successful and manage to return to earth or not they`ll be known as a heroes.
on the science industry and to those who are eager to learn about this universe. It is scary but to them its worth a risk.
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Second mars has a weak magnetic field, unlike earth being protected by its huge magnetic field. mars has a very small and weak one. having a magnetic field protects us from solar flares and solar radiation sun produces. and when mars got hit by a solar radiation even with the most advance protection agains radiation we have it will be useless resulting to instant death.
Doesn't Mars have some areas that are better protected than others? I think the idea was that they were going to use one of those to settle in since it provided adequate protection.
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September 01, 2015, 07:32:23 AM |
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You may think getting and living on mars is dream come true. thinks again.
First mars has a thin atmosphere so mars has a very weak agains meteorites and asteroids.
Second mars has a weak magnetic field, unlike earth being protected by its huge magnetic field. mars has a very small and weak one. having a magnetic field protects us from solar flares and solar radiation sun produces. and when mars got hit by a solar radiation even with the most advance protection agains radiation we have it will be useless resulting to instant death.
Third is the gravity, sure mars has a weak gravitational force but be warned. because of it your body will try and adopt to the new enviroment. your bones will weaken then your body will start to change. i know it sounds like a science fiction but our body adopt to new inviroments.
im sure you`ll learn a lot but learning what your going to face outside earth and go the unknown and deathtrap place i`ll be happy staying here. hearing they`re progress. and if they`re expedition is successful and manage to return to earth or not they`ll be known as a heroes.
on the science industry and to those who are eager to learn about this universe. It is scary but to them its worth a risk.
Seems like it might be a better idea to colonise cold and warm parts of the earth + work on living on sea plus underground. Then there is also working on building upwards. Long time before with are able to live on mars imo.
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September 01, 2015, 08:00:22 AM |
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REASON NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT IT IS BECAUSE IT IS A FUCKING CRASH PROJECT. They delayed their timeline, killed their own hype and then people say the seats were sold. What's the whole point of sending the most qualified first civilization to populate mars then? Same genes which feel they can buy everything with money. Sadly, they'd be right...
They delayed their timeline because expansion of the project base, though. And I think the seats weren't sold, but traded for something better than money. The CEO says that the plan will be bigger, better and smoother than before. All it will take is some time. Bullshit, I say. Another 'technical delay' coming soon. Meanwhile, the hype dies. They're only delaying it because it's a scam and they have no intention of going to mars. It's not even feasible at all. Even NASA would struggle to get the funding for this.
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