MARS one on 2025

[BADecker]

This Mars mission is a suicide mission. The safety of the crew to be sent there is not guaranteed....

Actually it's possible to create a sustainable habitat for humans on Mars, but no body has done this.  It's not a matter of just sending one or two supply ships before the manned expedition goes.  Think in terms of a hundred ships before the people go there.

You'd need to prospect, and find sources of many elements and materials.  For example, you would need to find a local source of copper, then mine it. 

Think in terms of large numbers of robots, industrial processes, fabrication in operation before people. 

Realistically this is a fifty to hundred year project, but it definitely should be done. 

I agree with regard to the sustainability. Here on earth, the few sealed habitats that we have built, have not lasted long enough, sealed, to see if they would work as long as they would have to on Mars. I don't think we are or will be prepared enough by 2025 to attempt a Mars mission safely.

Has God created Mars 6000 years ago?

The Bible shows a literal system of dates that shows that the creation was accomplished something less than 6,200 years ago. You can see it here http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm.

I suspect that Mars was created back then, on the 4th day of creation, along with the sun, moon, and stars. But it isn't known for a fact that it wasn't the result of some space collision, or coming together of space rocks, some time after the creation.

[Gasturcas]

Mars is the most habitable planet in our solar system because of the following:

1. Mars soil contains water to extract.
2. Temperature was so good same like Planet Earth. It isn’t too cold or too hot.
3. Solar panels can gather enough of Sunlight to produce Solar Energy.
4. Gravity is adoptable and its 38% that of Earth's gravity which is believed by many to be sufficient for the human body to adapt to
5. The atmosphere offers protection from cosmic and Sun's radiation.
6.The day/night rhythm is very similar to Earth: a Mars day is 24 hours, 39 minutes and 35 seconds

[BADecker]

Mars is the most habitable planet in our solar system because of the following:

1. Mars soil contains water to extract.
2. Temperature was so good same like Planet Earth. It isn’t too cold or too hot.
3. Solar panels can gather enough of Sunlight to produce Solar Energy.
4. Gravity is adoptable and its 38% that of Earth's gravity which is believed by many to be sufficient for the human body to adapt to
5. The atmosphere offers protection from cosmic and Sun's radiation.
6.The day/night rhythm is very similar to Earth: a Mars day is 24 hours, 39 minutes and 35 seconds

2. Temperature is far colder than Earth in places, and never nearly as warm as Earth is in some places.

4. We don't really know if Mars gravity will be good for people in the long run.

5. The atmosphere offers a little radiation protection, but far less than we need, or other forms of life need.

7. There is no recorded life of any sort on Mars... that we know of. Plants can only grow in the presence of humus. At least small amounts of living bacteria of the kind that form humus must be present for plants to live and survive. Naturally, solar radiation would kill off any humus bacteria living near the surface of the soil.

8. There is essentially no natural magnetic field on Mars as there is on Earth. We haven't lived outside of a magnetic field, so we don't know if we would be harmed without one. Certainly the tiny magnetic field on Mars isn't enough to ward of space radiation like it does on Earth.

It will be a far harder job to make Mars habitable than we imagine. We might live within enclosed habitats, but it will take decades or centuries to make Mars naturally habitable.

[BADecker]

This Mars mission is a suicide mission. The safety of the crew to be sent there is not guaranteed....

Actually it's possible to create a sustainable habitat for humans on Mars, but no body has done this.  It's not a matter of just sending one or two supply ships before the manned expedition goes.  Think in terms of a hundred ships before the people go there.

You'd need to prospect, and find sources of many elements and materials.  For example, you would need to find a local source of copper, then mine it. 

Think in terms of large numbers of robots, industrial processes, fabrication in operation before people. 

Realistically this is a fifty to hundred year project, but it definitely should be done. 

I agree with regard to the sustainability. Here on earth, the few sealed habitats that we have built, have not lasted long enough, sealed, to see if they would work as long as they would have to on Mars. I don't think we are or will be prepared enough by 2025 to attempt a Mars mission safely.

Has God created Mars 6000 years ago?

The Bible shows a literal system of dates that shows that the creation was accomplished something less than 6,200 years ago. You can see it here http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm.

I suspect that Mars was created back then, on the 4th day of creation, along with the sun, moon, and stars. But it isn't known for a fact that it wasn't the result of some space collision, or coming together of space rocks, some time after the creation.

So, can you confirm that you were dropped on your head when you were a child?  4th day of creation?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTKnU9zzf-s

I don't recall my parents ever saying I was dropped. How about you?

Actually, I'm not really interested about if you were dropped. But why did you even bring this idea up?

[BADecker]

This Mars mission is a suicide mission. The safety of the crew to be sent there is not guaranteed....

Actually it's possible to create a sustainable habitat for humans on Mars, but no body has done this.  It's not a matter of just sending one or two supply ships before the manned expedition goes.  Think in terms of a hundred ships before the people go there.

You'd need to prospect, and find sources of many elements and materials.  For example, you would need to find a local source of copper, then mine it. 

Think in terms of large numbers of robots, industrial processes, fabrication in operation before people. 

Realistically this is a fifty to hundred year project, but it definitely should be done. 

I agree with regard to the sustainability. Here on earth, the few sealed habitats that we have built, have not lasted long enough, sealed, to see if they would work as long as they would have to on Mars. I don't think we are or will be prepared enough by 2025 to attempt a Mars mission safely.

Has God created Mars 6000 years ago?

The Bible shows a literal system of dates that shows that the creation was accomplished something less than 6,200 years ago. You can see it here http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm.

I suspect that Mars was created back then, on the 4th day of creation, along with the sun, moon, and stars. But it isn't known for a fact that it wasn't the result of some space collision, or coming together of space rocks, some time after the creation.

So, can you confirm that you were dropped on your head when you were a child?  4th day of creation?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTKnU9zzf-s

I don't recall my parents ever saying I was dropped. How about you?

Actually, I'm not really interested about if you were dropped. But why did you even bring this idea up?

So you were dropped!!!  Sorry man.  I cannot pick on you.  I don't kick the handicapped.

Well, thank you very much, af_newbie. I didn't really want to call you a troll, but you have saved me the trouble by showing us all that you are one. In addition, thanks for helping to prove other things that I talk about, by opposing them, but not being able to rebut them.

[iluvbitcoins]

Didn't Mars One turn out as a scam?

http://heavy.com/news/2015/03/mars-one-scam-scheme-fraud-money/

http://www.iflscience.com/space/whats-going-mars-one/

http://www.businessinsider.com/mars-one-mit-students-mission-not-feasible-debate-2015-8

http://metro.co.uk/2015/03/18/is-the-mars-one-mission-the-biggest-hoax-in-history-5109527/

[Hiren74]

I doubt we ever make it to mars properly at least, well not in any of our life times.

Would be very happy if am wrong though.

[Gyro]

Mars is a sure thing for us humans. Its the next natural step towards colonising other planets. After Mars its one of the earth like planets discovered by NASA. Exciting times we live in! I think this will happen in our life time.

[canah17]

why no one is talking about this, i find it a great project

the roadmap summary


2015

a training to help all partecipants to deal better with the conditions climatic of Mars, they will probably simulate it, in in some facility


2020

a demostration mission will begin along with a launch of a communication satellite


2022

an intelligent rover will lend on mars, to help the future lenders, to find the best place to establish their new outpost

the rover will help it by removing unnecessary thing in that area

a second satellite will be launched, for a better communication 24/7


2024

a second rover, two living units, two life support systems, and a supply unit are sent to Mars in 2024. In 2025, all units land on Mars using a rover signal as a beacon. - See more at: http://www.mars-one.com/mission/roadmap#sthash.bqoJlXFP.dpuf


2025

the six cargo that will host the civilians will lend on Mars, ata a distance of 10km from the outpost, they will use sonal pannel for energy

everything will be settled before by the rover robot before the arrival for the lenders, so they will have water and oxygen


2026

the crew one will be launched on the orbit, travelling to Mars, and a months after the first crew is settled, there will be a second launch for the second crew

bears in mind that there is no return to earth, for those people


2027

after the first day, the crew will be moved to their living zone, they will be picked up by the rover for this, when they will arrive to their units, they will set up everything for their future life on mars, foods is the canned type and nothing else

Redundancy is extremely important because, unlike the crew aboard the International Space Station, the Mars One crew can't abandon their mission in case of an emergency. When the first crew lands they will find the habitat with a good level of redundancy. The established habitat will, by this time, include two living units, each large enough to house the crew of four, and two life support units which are capable of providing enough water, power, and breathable air for the entire crew. When the hardware for the second crew is incorporated to the settlement, it will feature four living units and four life support units, which are enough to sustain a crew of 16 astronauts


2028

the second crew will be launched, every crew from now will consist of 10 individual, the first one is an exception, and it was 100 individuals


reference http://www.mars-one.com/mission/roadmap

Well yeah.. its a great project but the year man.. -_- it seems earlier than i thought and i thought about year of 9015 like that i mean earth dies in i don't know a billion years or so, but each of us are really known to the story of we get evac on mars but we need to clean mars first before we enter its planet and mars is very small and don't have any water we can't live that long and its hot its closest to the sun its just only my idea but if you don't agree or its a bad idea just feel free to reply and so lets go back to the topic then mars is a wonderful planet i really think that mars is not we would be going if earth dies but we need to explore the solar system or out and get to know the other earth or the weird creatures of the outer space! Have Good day! to you!!

[popcorn1]

why no one is talking about this, i find it a great project

the roadmap summary


2015

a training to help all partecipants to deal better with the conditions climatic of Mars, they will probably simulate it, in in some facility


2020

a demostration mission will begin along with a launch of a communication satellite


2022

an intelligent rover will lend on mars, to help the future lenders, to find the best place to establish their new outpost

the rover will help it by removing unnecessary thing in that area

a second satellite will be launched, for a better communication 24/7


2024

a second rover, two living units, two life support systems, and a supply unit are sent to Mars in 2024. In 2025, all units land on Mars using a rover signal as a beacon. - See more at: http://www.mars-one.com/mission/roadmap#sthash.bqoJlXFP.dpuf


2025

the six cargo that will host the civilians will lend on Mars, ata a distance of 10km from the outpost, they will use sonal pannel for energy

everything will be settled before by the rover robot before the arrival for the lenders, so they will have water and oxygen


2026

the crew one will be launched on the orbit, travelling to Mars, and a months after the first crew is settled, there will be a second launch for the second crew

bears in mind that there is no return to earth, for those people


2027

after the first day, the crew will be moved to their living zone, they will be picked up by the rover for this, when they will arrive to their units, they will set up everything for their future life on mars, foods is the canned type and nothing else

Redundancy is extremely important because, unlike the crew aboard the International Space Station, the Mars One crew can't abandon their mission in case of an emergency. When the first crew lands they will find the habitat with a good level of redundancy. The established habitat will, by this time, include two living units, each large enough to house the crew of four, and two life support units which are capable of providing enough water, power, and breathable air for the entire crew. When the hardware for the second crew is incorporated to the settlement, it will feature four living units and four life support units, which are enough to sustain a crew of 16 astronauts


2028

the second crew will be launched, every crew from now will consist of 10 individual, the first one is an exception, and it was 100 individuals


reference http://www.mars-one.com/mission/roadmap

Well yeah.. its a great project but the year man.. -_- it seems earlier than i thought and i thought about year of 9015 like that i mean earth dies in i don't know a billion years or so, but each of us are really known to the story of we get evac on mars but we need to clean mars first before we enter its planet and mars is very small and don't have any water we can't live that long and its hot its closest to the sun its just only my idea but if you don't agree or its a bad idea just feel free to reply and so lets go back to the topic then mars is a wonderful planet i really think that mars is not we would be going if earth dies but we need to explore the solar system or out and get to know the other earth or the weird creatures of the outer space! Have Good day! to you!!

Yes i disagree..Earth is closer to the sun

[Drowzy]

I doubt we ever make it to mars properly at least, well not in any of our life times.

Would be very happy if am wrong though.

It seems like a far off dream going to mars. I don't think we will accomplish this task.

[Basimon]

I will buy 100BTC starting from now so that nearly 10 years later
I could travel to this Mars. That's so funny , guys.

[juras54]

fly to Mars before, and land, and then the rocket will explode even come at the start of the ground

[iluvbitcoins]

Although a scam (as I posted earlier)
This is something men should do

The problem with capitalism and space exploration is we are not allowed to go to space and use it for profit
Which automatically takes away anyones interest to do that (besides the goverments) and I admire this because it is what free market economy should do
And that is explore and eventually profit from something that is good for all mankind!

[Spoetnik]

I am highly skeptical this can all be done in a realistic time frame.

Hell we don't even know if humans can survive on Mars for any length of time.
I mean the whole effect on the human body stuff.

The logistics of it is also staggering.
What always comes to mind when i think of this concept is.. meteors.

I seen a science show the other day where an astronomer caught on camera a massive cloud of maybe water or something shooting off like 150 miles off the surface of the planet.
No one has any clue what it could have been.. except for a comet impact.
I can't put into words how fucking big the mess was it was simply fucking nuts !

And what i always think of is Mars is a target hit more often i think then we are here. (because of it's location)
Worse is that it has fuck all for an atmosphere.

Chelyabinsk meteor = Imagine 29 nuke's going off.
THEN imagine NOT having an atmosphere !

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelyabinsk_meteor

The bulk of the object's energy was absorbed by the atmosphere, with a total kinetic energy before atmospheric impact equivalent to approximately 500 kilotons of TNT (about 1.8 PJ), about 29 times the energy released from the atomic bomb detonated at Hiroshima.

Then think of all those shooting stars and constant meteor showers we get.
Check out Spaceweather.com to see which meteor shower we are hit with right now..
We are ALWAYS flying into one all year round pretty much.

THEN think of all those shooting stars we see.. i heard they are suppose to be like a grain of sand usually.

THEN.. think of no atmosphere !
Each grain of sand would be a high speed cannon blast that rips through anything on the surface of Mars.

Meteors can be shot into us on Earth at 72 km/s.
Not sure what the average max is on Mars would be ..maybe higher.
A sample of a speeding bullet is about 4500 km/h
Take not the difference between hours and SECONDS.

Earth average max meteor speed = 259,200 km/h
Earth's Average max bullet speed =    4,500 km/h

Meaning ?
What ever type of habitat or support is laid out on Mars it is going to be highly vulnerable.
Such as an inflated green house that would explode if a grain of sand was shot through it.
Wind storms ? Yup.. Mars is known for them and tornado's.

Sorry i just think the reality here is colonizing Mars is going to be far harder and more expensive than people thought.

Wrap your head around this little fun fact.
It costs something like $10,000.00 usd to put 1 single pound into orbit of Earth.
Then factor in that you would need to send 3 or more people to Mars all requiring food for the trip.
If all three eat 1 pound of food per day and it takes them say a year to get there..
AND they will have to take another period of time to make a green house and grow food.
Then do the math  
What is needed would also be more costly because the food stored would need to be "pushed" to Mars.
Not just Earth's orbit.
And yup it's going to cost a lot more to send 1 pound of something to Mars than it is to float in close orbit here.

It's a bloody miracle we made it to the moon.
Only reason the US did it was because they were given a blank check and infinite man power.
NASA people said if they had to do it today it would be impossible because of the cost.
The first couple Moon missions cost a staggering amount of money and required hundreds of thousands of workers.
That was ALL paid for by taxing the public to foot the bill.

Yup.. i'm skeptical