Absolute nonsense. It's strictly inferior for human verification than JD-style provably fair. It's strictly inferior than moneypot-style for machine verification.
Instead you introduce a huge amount of needles complexity and ambiguity involving day server side changes which would allow you to cheat. Also, giving everyone the same client seed is hilariously stupid...
I'd really like to hear in your own words how this is an improvement over the status-quo.
I was hoping that someone would ask us about this! Thank you! Our provable fair system is what we are most proud of, and we LOVE talking about it. Seriously, we love it. Stop by our chat any time, but I will attempt to explain it here.
Absolute nonsense. It's strictly inferior for human verification than JD-style provably fair. It's strictly inferior than moneypot-style for machine verification.
I can see how you might have missed this, but I believe that we made it very easy for "humans" to verify every bet, ever made on our site. Check here...
You can click on any bet ID and get this information. Pretty simple for "human verification". This verifier (program that does all the complicated checking for you) is hosted on our site, as well as 2 other peoples servers that are not associated with cryptobetfair. Some could argue that’s not good enough, because we could conspire with these other people to cheat, and produce false information in the verifier. That’s not an issue... Here is our verifier!
https://cryptobetfair.com/d/i/verifybet.php?showyourself=pygmentizeWe would be happy for anyone to host this for us. The more people that host, the better! We welcome and encourage anyone that understands this code to look it over and review it.
BUT this is only one of the advantages of our system, made for people that might not understand all the complexities of a provable fair system.
Instead you introduce a huge amount of needles complexity and ambiguity involving day server side changes which would allow you to cheat.
A true provably fair system, a verifiably provable system, can not be summed up with 2-3 lines of code. Sorry, it is more complicated than that. We spent months thinking through the process and trying to find any
hole in the system, and fixing them. If you want to use a site that only has a few lines of code, and claims that makes them "provably fair" We may not be the site for you.
Our system IS more complicated than most other sites, and we are proud of that. Our system is also transparent. We welcome and encourage coders, and trusted members of the crypto community to look over our entire process, and review it. Dooglus I’m looking at you. Here is an explanation of our system
https://cryptobetfair.com/provably-fair.html Anyone that wants to talk about it more, please join us in our lounge, or our IRC channel on freenode #cryptobetfair.
Also, giving everyone the same client seed is hilariously stupid...
Is it? We think that giving everyone a "supposedly" random client seed is a very easy way for a corrupt casino owner to cheat its users. We could have generated a "random" client seed when you signed up, and that seed
could have been designed to rob you blind, and you would have never known. The fact that everyone has the same starting client seed means that we could not have possibly rigged that seed from the start. Also, you can easily
change your seed at any time, under your "fair?" tab. What you call "hilariously stupid" is actually a very well thought out measure to prevent cheating. Ill try and explain it to you.
Client seed is ONLY one part of the process. Your username is a factor, the daily seed is a factor (made 356K days in advance), server seed, etc...
I admit, it is hard for a non coder to understand fully, and this is why we welcome review from trusted members of the community, that understand the code. It is all there, everything is transparent. It just can not be summed up by hitting one button, and seeing the light is green, so everything must be fair. Crypto and provably fair just isn’t that easy, not if you do it right.
I'd really like to hear in your own words how this is an improvement over the status-quo.
I think I have explained a good bit of the improvements we have made. Again, I understand it is complicated, but to sum this up...
Other sites could possibly change seeds and cheat. We can not.
This is a big claim I know... But we welcome coders to look over our system. We love open and honest discussion. We are willing to make changes IF anyone can show us a way to improve, and hope other sites to adopt the advancements that we have made. The crypto world is full of scammers, the casino scene especially. We are trying to make this a better, fairer place for everyone.
