TOWN HALL (prep) Meeting: Butterfly Labs

[davidspitzer]

I read the account and it was well drafted. One can never be certain of every detail, but I have enjoyed the Singles I have now and if the the new gear performs on par or better, within its given specs, I will be completely satisfied.  My personal opinion is that BFL is legitimate. I will hold that opinion until they prove otherwise. We can speculate and bandy about all sorts of theories, but only time will be a vindication of the truth.

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[psilan]

Hey guys, maybe we should have some technical questions, so we don't turn this session into a 100% witch hunting meeting.

I would like to know:

1. Details on the delivery of first ASICs
- are they still scheduled for end of October?
- what are the risks to delivery dates? (i.e. we are waiting for some shipments that might or might not come) and what's the impact (will put us 2 weeks/months/years behind schedule)
- is there a "cut-off" date for pre-orders? (aka a date after which the 1/3 shipping rule will no longer apply and is basically first come first served?)

2. Details on the future plans and products
- what's the warranty period for the SCs? (I really hope there is one ...)
- any ASIC v.2 planned in near future or full focus on production?

Thanks.

Your answers can be found everywhere with a tool called search . They have been answered multiple times.

[Transisto]

Hey guys, maybe we should have some technical questions, so we don't turn this session into a 100% witch hunting meeting.

I would like to know:

1. Details on the delivery of first ASICs
- are they still scheduled for end of October?
- what are the risks to delivery dates? (i.e. we are waiting for some shipments that might or might not come) and what's the impact (will put us 2 weeks/months/years behind schedule)
- is there a "cut-off" date for pre-orders? (aka a date after which the 1/3 shipping rule will no longer apply and is basically first come first served?)

2. Details on the future plans and products
- what's the warranty period for the SCs? (I really hope there is one ...)
- any ASIC v.2 planned in near future or full focus on production?

Thanks.

Your answers can be found everywhere with a tool called search . They have been answered multiple times.

5 question, Could you give me the 5 search term to enter were these are answered clearly in the first few results ?

Thanks, not everyone is reading all BFL related threads.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

I would like to know what specific functions Sonny carries out within BFL. Is he a director, president, owner, CEO, founder, employee, or a combination of some or all of the above? Also, what is the history of his involvement with BFL?

It's pretty clear from Sonny's message, "I am not a majority owner." (emphasis added), that he is not just an employee (as frequently implied by Inaba), but is actually an owner of the company.

...but the majority owner was kind enough to let me use my uncle's address in KC on some corporation papers for bitforce.com BF Labs. Speaking of my uncle, he's a sweet guy, and I'll never forget the day he and wife posted the $200K USD bond as my get out of jail card, allowing me to revisit Costa Rica and see how my house is doing. Yes, I was allowed to leave the country. Google it if you don't believe me. Don't read too much into the crossout above, because the erase key seems to be missing on this laptop of mine. I'm pretty new to this forum talk thingy. I remember when we were discussing what to name this company at the beginning: Bitforce or Butterfly Labs. We almost when with the former, but darn--bitforce.com was already taken. Look it up if you don't believe me. You'll be shocked at what'll you learn.

That's it for now, for I gotta get back to penning cool responses to all the questions and concerns addressed thus far. Indy, Christie, and cousin Andrew say, "Hey!"

With warm regards,

Sonny KV (got to find that erase key)
BF Labs Group LLC


Address used for Uncle Chris's and cousin Andrew's various domains names.

[Kaliecious]

is that google maps? thats a damn good pic.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

is that google maps? thats a damn good pic.

Yes. Now I'm going to bed, hopefully to dream about Maria.

~Bruno~

[RHA]

(...)
With warm regards,
Sonny KV (got to find that erase key)
BF Labs Group LLC

Hey, Phinnaeus Gage, do most of your earlier "findings" are just similar fabrications?
Don't you think someone can take it seriously?

[bobitza]

Hey guys, maybe we should have some technical questions, so we don't turn this session into a 100% witch hunting meeting.

I would like to know:

1. Details on the delivery of first ASICs
- are they still scheduled for end of October?
- what are the risks to delivery dates? (i.e. we are waiting for some shipments that might or might not come) and what's the impact (will put us 2 weeks/months/years behind schedule)
- is there a "cut-off" date for pre-orders? (aka a date after which the 1/3 shipping rule will no longer apply and is basically first come first served?)

2. Details on the future plans and products
- what's the warranty period for the SCs? (I really hope there is one ...)
- any ASIC v.2 planned in near future or full focus on production?

Thanks.

Your answers can be found everywhere with a tool called search . They have been answered multiple times.

I have read a lot of forum posts related to BFL and their ASICs but none has the info I'm looking for; most of the posts are people questioning if BFL can/will deliver. Are you telling me that BFL representatives responded with details on risk factors for delivery, pre-order details and info on future plans? Like with the current pre-orders and planned capacity we'll be shipping the 10,000 jalapeno by X date, etc.

Yes, I know the official date is late October, early November.
Yes, I read that they plan to ship all pre-orders before Christmas.
Not very useful info if you ask me.

I think it would be useful if the town hall meeting would give us answers on something product related, not just answers on the past and experiences of Soony V since childbirth.

For now, this really looks like a witch hunt to me. They already got our money, not much we can do now but wait. I'm more interested in hearing exact details on what, when and how they would deliver and what can go wrong.

[Bogart]

They already got our money, not much we can do now but wait.

You can insure against a loss, or double down.

"Butterfly Labs will not ship ASIC-based Bitforce SC products before April 2013":
http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=701

 

[Syke]

What a lousy bet. BFL has promised shipments in Oct.

[Rassah]

They already got our money, not much we can do now but wait.

You can also get your money back, as apparently 3 people have asked for refunds and have received them.

[BitcoinINV]

I'm still trying to get why not pictures yet? I mean they have to be done with 1 right? Supposed to ship next month with out 1 being done to show? Maybe a proto-type or something? It's just too shady I would not pre-order anything without a picture or something along those lines first. The conference would have been a perfect place for a display but instead they brought last years models? What company does that? Most of the time they display stuff you can not get for months yet....

[bobitza]

I'm still trying to get why not pictures yet?

The whole "who gets the asics out first gets rich" could be one of the reasons why BFL is not showing or talking too much about their devices. Let the competition think that they don't have anything ready ...

Or they could be a scam 

I guess we'll find out pretty soon.

[greyhawk]

I found one

[Bitinvestor]

I found one

Aww

[Desolator]

yes, because this reveals ALL their secrets:


(from their own facebook page, people)

btw they're yet to adopt my vastly superior logo:

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Has Josh ever published his last name? The reason I'm asking is because I found a dated connection between a Josh and Bitforce and want to doubly make sure that what I discovered jives or, if the case may be, doesn't connect.

~Bruno~

[psilan]

It's all over the net, I don't think he's hiding one little bit.

[mufa23]

Has Josh ever published his last name? The reason I'm asking is because I found a dated connection between a Josh and Bitforce and want to doubly make sure that what I discovered jives or, if the case may be, doesn't connect.

~Bruno~

I don't think he has. Unless his last name is Inaba? Joshua Inaba?

[RHA]

It is known to customers of BFL, who communicate by e-mail, because Josh answers with his full name.
If you don't know it you probably are not a customer.