SgtSpike
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September 20, 2012, 07:50:38 PM |
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Why is allowing people to bet on the outcome of lotteries illegal? Because the government said so? Do you also consider it morally wrong? Why?
I wouldn't expect such an outcry from people who are actively making use of similar illegal services (betsofbitco.in). This is fascinating.
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psilan (OP)
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September 20, 2012, 07:52:34 PM |
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Why is allowing people to bet on the outcome of lotteries illegal? Because the government said so? Do you also consider it morally wrong? Why? Please read everything. |
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bigasic
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September 20, 2012, 08:37:15 PM |
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See, I told you that there are 2 sides to every argument. And i was also right that he accepted the deal because of the possibility of getting screwed totally, even if he was not guilty....
I would consider the matter closed.. I accept his answer and will continue to support BFL 100 percent..
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September 20, 2012, 09:20:37 PM |
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Thanks for the response BFL. I liked what I read and you still have my confidence and paid orders.
Did you read the public documents describing the crime he was convicted of? It doesn't seem to match Sonny's description at all, and it is truly heinous. A good place to start is the affidavit here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=110805.msg1207144#msg1207144Mr. Vleisides, are you saying that all of that evidence was fabricated? |
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repentance
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September 20, 2012, 09:22:56 PM |
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Good to see the community is finally starting to look out for itself.
It's a pity that this due diligence wasn't done until after BFL took so many pre-orders. This community needs to learn to do its research before blindly handing over money to new players. |
All I can say is that this is Bitcoin. I don't believe it until I see six confirmations.
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blakdawg
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September 20, 2012, 10:11:10 PM |
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It is totally fucking unreasonable to expect the BTC community to overlook the giant gaps between the indictment and affidavits and Sonny's story unless he posts at least one picture of a puppy or a kitten; preferably in a sock, hanging from a clothesline.
Does he have no respect for us at all? Does he think we are just a bunch of morons who will fall for a sappy story WITH NO ANIMAL PICTURES?
No $ from me until I see some baby animals.
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September 20, 2012, 10:12:32 PM |
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Good to see the community is finally starting to look out for itself.
It's a pity that this due diligence wasn't done until after BFL took so many pre-orders. This community needs to learn to do its research before blindly handing over money to new players. BFL_Josh repeatedly said pre-orders could be cancelled and money paid returned. Don't think many will ask. You? Did you order there? |
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September 20, 2012, 10:17:17 PM |
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If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it. There was never anything there in the first place.
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September 20, 2012, 10:23:19 PM |
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Cute pic! Ii thought it was a new concept for pig in aa second there.
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Inaba
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September 20, 2012, 10:30:22 PM |
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Two for one!  |
If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it. There was never anything there in the first place.
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MrTeal
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September 20, 2012, 10:45:17 PM |
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Is the town hall meeting still being planned, or is the statement given by Sonny going to be BFL's response to this?
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blakdawg
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September 20, 2012, 11:22:43 PM |
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Two for one! A cute baby wearing a pig beanie? I'm ready to set Charles Manson free. Open the gates! |
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psilan (OP)
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September 21, 2012, 05:59:10 AM |
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Questions not going ahead? Just that post? Or preparing to answer?
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September 21, 2012, 06:05:35 AM |
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Questions not going ahead? Just that post? Or preparing to answer?
I think is a good time for BFL to start releasing some information about their ASICs... we when asking for months and got nothing... I think people wouldn't be as worried if they at least comunicate properly the progress & expected delivery day of their new products. |
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September 21, 2012, 06:13:59 AM |
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why even pre order when they're like 5k behind?
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September 21, 2012, 07:09:48 AM |
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Thanks for the response BFL. I liked what I read and you still have my confidence and paid orders.
Did you read the public documents describing the crime he was convicted of? It doesn't seem to match Sonny's description at all, and it is truly heinous. A good place to start is the affidavit here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=110805.msg1207144#msg1207144I have read everything and drawn my own business conclusion that I won't cancel my orders at this time. Everything in life involves a certain risk and I only invest money I can afford to loose (even if I don't like to loosing money and I would imagine nobody does). Everyone must make up their own mind how to proceed. I have done so. |
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SgtSpike
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September 21, 2012, 03:19:42 PM |
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why even pre order when they're like 5k behind?
I certainly wouldn't right now. |
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RUM AND CARROTS: A PIRATE LIFE FOR ME
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September 21, 2012, 04:43:47 PM |
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I like what I have read and I'm satisfied as well.
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Bogart
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September 21, 2012, 04:51:47 PM |
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I like what I have read and I'm satisfied as well.
Just curious, do you have a vested interest in BFL successfully shipping an ASIC mining solution? IOW, did you preorder from them, and if so how heavily? |
"All safe deposit boxes in banks or financial institutions have been sealed... and may only be opened in the presence of an agent of the I.R.S." - President F.D. Roosevelt, 1933
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September 21, 2012, 05:29:48 PM |
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I like what I have read and I'm satisfied as well.
Just curious, do you have a vested interest in BFL successfully shipping an ASIC mining solution? IOW, did you preorder from them, and if so how heavily? Realistically I don't think you're going to find any miner currently who doesn't have at least some bias on their stance with BFL delivering or not. Those that pre-ordered of course have a bias (especially related to the amount they pre-ordered), as well as those heavily invested in non-ASIC mining not wanting their mining profits to drop. I think all of the additional attention that's being brought to BFL is due to FUD on their delivery, and unfortunately we'll just have to wait to see how it pans out. (For the record I have pre-ordered from BFL - so there's my bias on the situation) |
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