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July 14, 2015, 04:37:32 PM
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Chess for bitcoins? Isn't Chess a little too exploitable as a game? I mean you could just have pretty strong Chess program running in the background and just copy moves from it.


Yeah, this is exactly what I was thinking.  Even my old copy of chessmaster, which is not supposed to have the best engine out there from what I understand, could beat 99% of human players I think.

What the heck, I might as well fire up the old beast of a game lol.
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July 14, 2015, 04:51:10 PM
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If the owner finds a way to ensure the players that they are actually playing against humans then it could work.

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July 14, 2015, 05:20:03 PM
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If the owner finds a way to ensure the players that they are actually playing against humans then it could work.

People have talked about how impossible that is for 3 pages now. It is clear that the owner doesn't care. And why should he care? Since it is p2p, he gets his house cut regardless of whether bots are used.

Stay away if you're an honest player.

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July 14, 2015, 09:39:16 PM
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Great games concept, but any new update from op about real live players vs players??

Actually i dont care if i must play again others else that have both anatoly karpov and garry Kasparov brain running beside him  Cheesy

Btw anyone have any side for playing chess base on bitcoin??

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July 14, 2015, 10:08:09 PM
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I love playing chess. And If the owner cared to make his game more trustable I would have surely played. Its a nice concept but owner should really pay attention to comments and take action.

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July 14, 2015, 10:36:05 PM
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I love playing chess. And If the owner cared to make his game more trustable I would have surely played. Its a nice concept but owner should really pay attention to comments and take action.

Well, to be fair, there is only so much anyone can do under the circumstances - there probably is no realistic way to stop players from cheating at these types of online games, and rewarding them with money for their efforts will only make it worse.

Still, the developers do seem to be paying attention to comments and, at least, trying to take action:

i am sure it will be not easy for some one to run a bot on this site. i wll keep capture each match and will analyisis players moves, and will make sign up system we hard so it will be not easy for a bot to log in in this site

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July 14, 2015, 10:41:36 PM
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Does anyone play on here yet? I checked on the site a couple times recently and there were no games to join. I understand I run a risk of playing against a bot but I would like to give it a shot either way.

                                 
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July 15, 2015, 12:10:40 AM
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Does anyone play on here yet? I checked on the site a couple times recently and there were no games to join. I understand I run a risk of playing against a bot but I would like to give it a shot either way.

not enough traffic for the site thats why there are no games to be found.
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July 15, 2015, 02:14:28 PM
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Does anyone play on here yet? I checked on the site a couple times recently and there were no games to join. I understand I run a risk of playing against a bot but I would like to give it a shot either way.

not enough traffic for the site thats why there are no games to be found.

Yes the site yet doesn't have much traffic , i too had checked on site many times but did not find games to join....

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July 15, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
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I'm a chess player myself and if we aren't playing with bots here, there is a higher chance of winning if you are good with chess.
I sure would be playing such if someone could just confirm users playing with users here in bitcoin community. Smiley

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July 15, 2015, 03:37:12 PM
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I'm a chess player myself and if we aren't playing with bots here, there is a higher chance of winning if you are good with chess.
I sure would be playing such if someone could just confirm users playing with users here in bitcoin community. Smiley

How? I say "hi enhu, let's play a game".
You play against "jambola2" on the website.
I open up a chess program in the background, type in every move you play, and destroy you.
You might decide to put negative trust on me for botting.
But what proof do you have? I may be a GM level player.
The only thing you could do is decide to play with people you trust a lot. Then it becomes more of a question of why are you using this website? Play on a free website and directly play the person you're playing with. You won't have to even pay the house rake.

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Hi,

I had a Chess game installed on my PC (not there now), but still have another one on my mobile.
When mimicking the plays of the PvE, taking black in the PvP game has the advantage, unless the move is the same.

The fairness of the game is challenged, and you will never know whether you are playing against a bot in reality or not, and soon you will start using it too (esp. if you lose Wink).

Well, my app supports handicaps, so the best way is to change the game, literally. Smiley

Switch the positions of the Bishop and Knight in the chessboard, and Voila! you get a chess game that you can play with real opponents!

Just invented Anti-Bot Chess (ABC), the PvP version of the Chess. Grin
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I think people would play othello more easly without the absurd risk of botting, even if there is a chance for it to be done, it would be easier to play so it would be more fun.

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July 15, 2015, 06:26:49 PM
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I think people would play othello more easly without the absurd risk of botting, even if there is a chance for it to be done, it would be easier to play so it would be more fun.
whats the point of doing that? almost all thinking games can be botted, what would lead to people getting mad about it, i think there is no need to create such gambling websites

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Hi,

I had a Chess game installed on my PC (not there now), but still have another one on my mobile.
When mimicking the plays of the PvE, taking black in the PvP game has the advantage, unless the move is the same.

The fairness of the game is challenged, and you will never know whether you are playing against a bot in reality or not, and soon you will start using it too (esp. if you lose Wink).

Well, my app supports handicaps, so the best way is to change the game, literally. Smiley

Switch the positions of the Bishop and Knight in the chessboard, and Voila! you get a chess game that you can play with real opponents!

Just invented Anti-Bot Chess (ABC), the PvP version of the Chess. Grin

You do realize that most chess programs allow you to set the starting positions of the pieces in the board, right? Tongue

Other than that, that change would probably make the moves of the opening book irrelevant, but would otherwise not make much of a difference, I suppose: the difference in abilities between human and computer players would still be the same. And indeed, as long as the game's rules are fairly similar (in this case, as long as they amount to a perfect information game with relatively few possible moves), bots will still have the advantage.

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July 15, 2015, 06:52:06 PM
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I think people would play othello more easly without the absurd risk of botting, even if there is a chance for it to be done, it would be easier to play so it would be more fun.
whats the point of doing that? almost all thinking games can be botted, what would lead to people getting mad about it, i think there is no need to create such gambling websites
People always seeks for easy profit, you can't stop the idea of being rich doing nothing, nothing can stop a scammer to do so.

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Well a lot of people complain about bots in chess but isnt poker pvp the same thing? Arent there bots that know exactly what to play and when to play it? How come no one is bothered or affected by that?

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July 15, 2015, 06:58:29 PM
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Well a lot of people complain about bots in chess but isnt poker pvp the same thing? Arent there bots that know exactly what to play and when to play it? How come no one is bothered or affected by that?
Because most people plays freerolls. or low stakes so they aren't bothered by that.
Even if you are Ivey or someone else, you just play your best to win pennies.
The problem comes when the player in question plays a big guaranteed.
There people would be bothered, but until now I saw noone complain.

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July 15, 2015, 06:59:00 PM
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Well a lot of people complain about bots in chess but isnt poker pvp the same thing? Arent there bots that know exactly what to play and when to play it? How come no one is bothered or affected by that?

I've never played a lot of poker personally, but I'm under the impression that bots are still somewhat limited in that game; something like, only able to win at one type of game, one player versus another, and with limited bets - has this changed?

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July 15, 2015, 07:00:58 PM
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Well a lot of people complain about bots in chess but isnt poker pvp the same thing? Arent there bots that know exactly what to play and when to play it? How come no one is bothered or affected by that?

I've never played a lot of poker personally, but I'm under the impression that bots are still somewhat limited in this game: something like only able to win at one type of game, one player versus another, and with limited bets. Has this changed?

I mean if there are chess engines strong enough to beat the best players at chess, a super complex game for engines and without using brutforce i figured that there must be engines to win at poker and any other game eventually but i have no idea about poker bots, thats why i asked

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