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July 15, 2015, 07:01:08 PM
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I think people would play othello more easly without the absurd risk of botting, even if there is a chance for it to be done, it would be easier to play so it would be more fun.
whats the point of doing that? almost all thinking games can be botted, what would lead to people getting mad about it, i think there is no need to create such gambling websites
People always seeks for easy profit, you can't stop the idea of being rich doing nothing, nothing can stop a scammer to do so.
well yeah, thats why because such pvp sites should not be created as the fair game cant exist because of people greed, in my opinion it would be better to play against different levels of AI

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July 15, 2015, 07:05:21 PM
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Well a lot of people complain about bots in chess but isnt poker pvp the same thing? Arent there bots that know exactly what to play and when to play it? How come no one is bothered or affected by that?

I've never played a lot of poker personally, but I'm under the impression that bots are still somewhat limited in that game; something like, only able to win at one type of game, one player versus another, and with limited bets - has this changed?

limit holdem is considered a solved game
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/this-robot-is-the-best-limit-texas-holdem-player-in-the-world

no limit and other varients such as omaha are not "solved" yet
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July 15, 2015, 07:13:25 PM
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Well a lot of people complain about bots in chess but isnt poker pvp the same thing? Arent there bots that know exactly what to play and when to play it? How come no one is bothered or affected by that?

I've never played a lot of poker personally, but I'm under the impression that bots are still somewhat limited in that game; something like, only able to win at one type of game, one player versus another, and with limited bets - has this changed?

limit holdem is considered a solved game
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/this-robot-is-the-best-limit-texas-holdem-player-in-the-world

no limit and other varients such as omaha are not "solved" yet

Ah i see, pretty interesting but chess engines are not perfect either and they can win against humans, in the article it says that the robots would do pretty good in a no limit game against humans but doesnt specify how good, could they win in the long run against the top poker players?

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July 15, 2015, 07:15:07 PM
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I mean if there are chess engines strong enough to beat the best players at chess, a super complex game for engines and without using brutforce i figured that there must be engines to win at poker and any other game eventually but i have no idea about poker bots, thats why i asked

Hmm, but the problem is, as far as I understand it at least, that chess isn't a super complex game. By the nature of the game (all the board information being available to both players; relatively few movement options each turn; simple rules), it's ideal for computers to play using brute force; that is, checking a huge number of possible moves, and choosing the one that gives them the most advantage.

Poker, on the other hand, isn't a perfect information game (you don't know what cards the other players are holding, or what cards will be on the table), which makes it more complicated for a bot to play well. Of course, that isn't to say they won't be able to do so eventually, as hardware, and mainly the algorithms used to play the game, improve - but they're not there yet (except for one or two specific variants of the game).

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July 19, 2015, 06:15:09 AM
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If the owner finds a way to ensure the players that they are actually playing against humans then it could work.

If player can interact while playing on the site will assure somewhat that we are playing against humans..... video calling can be a good option

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July 19, 2015, 11:06:26 AM
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If the owner finds a way to ensure the players that they are actually playing against humans then it could work.

If player can interact while playing on the site will assure somewhat that we are playing against humans..... video calling can be a good option

I suppose it would also be necessary for the site to have a view of both players' screens, for that to have a chance of working - but even then, that wouldn't really prevent a scenario where a cheater would have an accomplice watching the game, and using a chess engine to then show the best moves to the first.

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July 19, 2015, 12:03:04 PM
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i just created an account there, very simple site and looks nice.
but is there any possibility to create a bot player , so we can play anytime,
no need to wait another player online, because now i see just one player online.
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July 19, 2015, 04:41:56 PM
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i dont know how to play in chess
i dont have skill for it, because we need a strategy to win.
but i want to try it to learn about chess.

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July 19, 2015, 05:01:08 PM
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i dont know how to play in chess
i dont have skill for it, because we need a strategy to win.
but i want to try it to learn about chess.

it requires tremendous amount of time to master chess. tactics, strategy, practice etc..

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July 19, 2015, 05:34:06 PM
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i dont know how to play in chess
i dont have skill for it, because we need a strategy to win.
but i want to try it to learn about chess.

You need skills to get your strategy, and thatis not one time show and you can master it all. You need to play longer time to learn the tactics because there are so many tactics in chess, one wrong move you will end up losing. And playing chess to earn bitcoin? I dont think that is a good choice because you need to consume so much time just to win one game against whoever it is
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July 20, 2015, 04:38:55 AM
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play chess for bitcoins, better then betting
chess4coin.com

i didn't quite understand how it works. are you affiliated with them or just informing others. i think you should make an announcement page in this section advertising the site or even make a signature campaign.

anyways i wanted to know if it is playing against a bot or can i play chess against other humans (PvP) and bet against each other?

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July 21, 2015, 03:32:47 PM
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play chess for bitcoins, better then betting
chess4coin.com

oh realy?i love chess, but I've never played for money/btc... i must try:)

edit: yupi!! i have account. very interesting idea;)
yes site is ready, it is still to simple , i dnt yet done search enigine optimization and other seo, still i get good response i am looking to make it more easy one ,
if any one have any issue about deposit and withdraw can PM me
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July 21, 2015, 03:40:56 PM
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play chess for bitcoins, better then betting
chess4coin.com

i didn't quite understand how it works. are you affiliated with them or just informing others. i think you should make an announcement page in this section advertising the site or even make a signature campaign.

anyways i wanted to know if it is playing against a bot or can i play chess against other humans (PvP) and bet against each other?
players vs players only.
i do not think playing against computer is easy one,
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July 21, 2015, 06:50:00 PM
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i don't know how to play i will train for free and then be prepared to lose  Grin Grin Grin Grin

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July 21, 2015, 08:07:04 PM
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play chess for bitcoins, better then betting
chess4coin.com

i didn't quite understand how it works. are you affiliated with them or just informing others. i think you should make an announcement page in this section advertising the site or even make a signature campaign.

anyways i wanted to know if it is playing against a bot or can i play chess against other humans (PvP) and bet against each other?
players vs players only.
i do not think playing against computer is easy one,


For the humans may be if the game difficult is adjusted, but it is much harder to make a decent computer intelligence to play.

And I see people using bots to play against players and win, if the site becomes successful

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July 22, 2015, 04:28:19 AM
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play chess for bitcoins, better then betting
chess4coin.com

i didn't quite understand how it works. are you affiliated with them or just informing others. i think you should make an announcement page in this section advertising the site or even make a signature campaign.

anyways i wanted to know if it is playing against a bot or can i play chess against other humans (PvP) and bet against each other?
players vs players only.
i do not think playing against computer is easy one,


very good.
i like playing chess , i might pay it a visit and play some matches there if i have time later on.

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July 23, 2015, 03:30:20 PM
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play chess for bitcoins, better then betting
chess4coin.com

i didn't quite understand how it works. are you affiliated with them or just informing others. i think you should make an announcement page in this section advertising the site or even make a signature campaign.

anyways i wanted to know if it is playing against a bot or can i play chess against other humans (PvP) and bet against each other?
players vs players only.
i do not think playing against computer is easy one,


very good.
i like playing chess , i might pay it a visit and play some matches there if i have time later on.
yes you will find it intresting:)
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July 25, 2015, 05:54:34 PM
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play chess for bitcoins, better then betting
chess4coin.com

i didn't quite understand how it works. are you affiliated with them or just informing others. i think you should make an announcement page in this section advertising the site or even make a signature campaign.

anyways i wanted to know if it is playing against a bot or can i play chess against other humans (PvP) and bet against each other?
players vs players only.
i do not think playing against computer is easy one,


very good.
i like playing chess , i might pay it a visit and play some matches there if i have time later on.
yes you will find it intresting:)
Yes the site and idea is really cool but still players will use chess algorithms and will play according to it

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July 25, 2015, 10:53:11 PM
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Yes the site and idea is really cool but still players will use chess algorithms and will play according to it

yes maybe you are right , but it's still really great to play chess and to throw some coins
there are some skilled players that won't mind even if they are playing against bot moves so maybe they will throw some mbtc and try to beat that bots

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July 27, 2015, 06:12:30 PM

Yes the site and idea is really cool but still players will use chess algorithms and will play according to it

yes maybe you are right , but it's still really great to play chess and to throw some coins
there are some skilled players that won't mind even if they are playing against bot moves so maybe they will throw some mbtc and try to beat that bots

Yes a good chess player has always got a fair and good chance to beat a bot... never matter how good the bot is

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