Why is there such an insurgence of flat-earthers in 2015?

[BlitzandBitz]

It would be cool to figure out for sure its round by going out into space and looking down.

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[criptix]

It would be cool to figure out for sure its round by going out into space and looking down.

well in 5 years for 100.000 $ you are in.

(spaceX ticket if my memory is correct)

[Gyfts]

Looks pretty round to me.

I think half of these flat earthers are just trolling. Or maybe like Alex Jones and David Icke they don't believe half of the shit they say but can make money off peddling the paranoia and fear to the gullible. I mean, somebody is always buying their books.

Yeah, it does look pretty round.

I'm not a believer in the "flat earth" bullshit, but, for discussion's sake I'll entertain the idea. The "flat earth believers" think the idea of NASA and space exploration is a front for money (go figure). Therefore, any and all evidence that has a Space reference to it (like a photo from a satellite) is dismissed in its entirety. It's hilarious actually. It shows the resilience these people show no matter the evidence thrown to them which is why this topic is still up for debate.

For comedy: http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/
https://www.reddit.com/r/flatearthsociety/

[BLKBITZ]

Looks pretty round to me.

I think half of these flat earthers are just trolling. Or maybe like Alex Jones and David Icke they don't believe half of the shit they say but can make money off peddling the paranoia and fear to the gullible. I mean, somebody is always buying their books.

Yeah, it does look pretty round.

I'm not a believer in the "flat earth" bullshit, but, for discussion's sake I'll entertain the idea. The "flat earth believers" think the idea of NASA and space exploration is a front for money (go figure). Therefore, any and all evidence that has a Space reference to it (like a photo from a satellite) is dismissed in its entirety. It's hilarious actually. It shows the resilience these people show no matter the evidence thrown to them which is why this topic is still up for debate.

For comedy: http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/
https://www.reddit.com/r/flatearthsociety/

Well to be fair the last photo is fake.

[BLKBITZ]

It would be cool to figure out for sure its round by going out into space and looking down.

well in 5 years for 100.000 $ you are in.

(spaceX ticket if my memory is correct)

Wow that's cool I didn't know about that.

[notbatman]

I'm sorry but spinning globe Earth theory is absolutely ridiculous, all you need a telescope to prove that it's the biggest crock of shit ever.

[Buffer Overflow]

If you check out the videos, far more videos are recent videos, and the top viewed video about the subject has 6,187,528 views and was released only 7 months ago. If this was not something people (on both sides) were interested in, why would it have so much activity recently?

The same reason people go on YouTube and watch fluffy kittens fall off sofas videos or people making fools out of themselves on talent shows.
They watch them for entertainment purposes.

With 6+ million views, the author must be making good money with that one. So he then makes another video......

[jaysabi]

I've spoken up in other threads, that I think debate is great. You learn something new everyday. Though most laugh at this immediately, I find the debates going on fascinating.

There comes a time when debate is pointless. The Earth is not flat. Debate on the topic is not great, it's evidence of either stupidity, trolling, or subversion for personal gain (money, attention, notoriety; whatever your currency of choice).

There are certain topics where I wouldn't characterize debate as "great", and this is one of them. Not to say people aren't free to be stupid, but celebrating it is going too far.

As for the evidence it suggests, most of the people trying to prove the Earth is flat, are not getting any money, and are being ridiculed. I will give you trolling, it could be a reason, but I don't think it's stupidity, as they are attempting to disprove a theory that is heavily regarded. If they are going to be successful, they will have to work harder than many to come up with a proof that is accepted. You may consider a waste of time because you think they will not succeed. But I believe working for something, even if proven wrong, still teaches you something.

Also, looking at the world in ways others don't consider, well, this is how inventions are made. Just look throughout history, there are examples of inventions that were made from things that had no relation. You never know when a positive will come out of scientific work.

They are attempting to disprove a fact, not a theory that is heavily regarded. To say it as such is to criminally mischaracterize the merit of the "debate" they are trying to have. Anyone who does not accept facts is just too determined to be stupid to be salvageable. We have seen the planet from space. It is round. End of discussion.

You've been in space?

To those who disbelieve the Earth is a sphere, they're obviously going to say it's a theory that the Earth is a sphere, that the images are pictures, and CGI effects, etc. You have to put yourself in the other person's shoes to see this. There's a video linked in the OP, that is a man claiming to have drawn the Earth from space for NASA, remember? Lots of people have been saying the moon landing was faked for a lot longer too.

No, I have not been to space.   But I also don't doubt that hundreds have been, and I further don't need to thanks to the wonders of technology. This is too big of an issue to fake and keep faking for hundreds of years. All our technology and understanding of physics only works with a spherical planet. And it's verifiable for the whole world, it's not like such a huge conspiracy could be perpetrated. To believe so is to be especially removed reality. To be so ignorant of all the proof to cling to a disproven "theory" is a level of stupidity I don't need to engage. While they're free to "debate" (that word is being used as derisively as possible), it's not a delusion anyone should feel compelled to coddle because "debate is always good." No, sometimes it's just useless drivel.

Lots of people have been saying the moon landing was faked for a lot longer too.

And I wish Buzz Aldrin could punch every one of them in the face!

[MakingMoneyHoney]

All our technology and understanding of physics only works with a spherical planet. And it's verifiable for the whole world, it's not like such a huge conspiracy could be perpetrated. To believe so is to be especially removed reality. To be so ignorant of all the proof to cling to a disproven "theory" is a level of stupidity I don't need to engage.

I recently posted this thread, based on this article: NASA scientist says we may be living in a Matrix-like digital imprisonment designed by Aliens .

NASA scientist says we're living in a Matrix-like digital imprisonment, because "The idea that our Universe is a fiction generated by computer code solves a number of inconsistencies and mysteries about the cosmos."

There are a number of inconsistencies and mysteries about the cosmos.

"Another mystery explained by Dr Bostrom’s Matrix-like theory is the role of Dark Matter.
US theoretical cosmologist Michael Turner has called the hypothetical material “the most profound mystery in all of science”.

Dark Matter is one of many hypothetical materials used to explain a number of anomalies in the Standard Model – the all-encompassing theory science has used to explain the particles and forces of nature for the last 50 years."

There are a number of anomalies.

"If it exists, it would explain why galaxies spin at the speed they do – something which remains unexplained based only on what we can currently observe.

The Standard Model does not yet hold an explanation for the force of gravity."

This information is from May 13, 2015, and from a NASA scientist. They don't even know why gravity works the way it does. They're still trying to explain the mysteries away.

[MakingMoneyHoney]

Flat-earthers say there is a dome above the Earth, that people can not go through. This is why other countries were not able to go to the moon, and the one country that did was a country that is large in motion pictures productions. The claim is we cannot go through the Van Allen Radiation Belts.

Man in space says we can only fly in Earth orbit - NASA Admits They Can't Send Humans Through The Van Allen Radiation Belts

There's an interesting video here: 6/22/2015 -- NASA 'accidentally' DRAINS the Van Allen Belts -- STS-75 'Tether Incident'

This new video makes it look like NASA has been attempting to get rid of the Van Allen Belt in an attempt to get through it, by destroying the Belt. Question is, did it create Global Warming?

From the caption from that video:

"Published on Jun 22, 2015

It appears that NASA actually DRAINED one of the protective Van Allen Radiation belts surrounding Earth.

This experiment was done, and was successful. No doubt, this could easily cause "climate change" , since the Van Allen Belts protect us from solar radiation , high electron voltage.

During the experiment, after deploying the tether in space, they say the tether "broke" and floated away into Earth's orbit.

They were never able to retrieve the floating tether, which worked exactly as expected, and became a glowing bright object in space for several weeks (3 months).

They do not say whether the Tether fell back to Earth, however the height of the experiment leans towards the fact that the tether is still up in space , along with the satellite carrying it.

The projected timeframe for REMOVING the inner van allen belt was 2 months time. This all occurred in 1996, and for sure was up THREE months.... thus we can begin to see that the same time we started seeing major "climate change" is the same time they removed one of the Van Allen belts.

If you remove a protective layer of the upper ionosphere , which shields us from the Sun, then you should expect the Sun to have a greater impact on the Earth below once the shield is gone.

That is exactly what happened. Global spikes in Temperatures, Earthquakes, and Volcanic eruptions began in earnest after the year 1996.

Now we know the culprit."

[BombaUcigasa]

Flat-earthers say there is a dome above the Earth, that people can not go through.

The claim is we cannot go through the Van Allen Radiation Belts.

Pick one and stick with it? Can you go above the Earth or not? Are there "belts" outside the Earth, and if so, how was this found?

[MakingMoneyHoney]

Flat-earthers say there is a dome above the Earth, that people can not go through.

The claim is we cannot go through the Van Allen Radiation Belts.

Pick one and stick with it? Can you go above the Earth or not? Are there "belts" outside the Earth, and if so, how was this found?

The Van Allen Radiation Belts would be right before the dome. If you can't get past the radiation belts, you can't hit the top of the dome. That isn't contradictory.

Van Allen radiation belt

[BombaUcigasa]

Flat-earthers say there is a dome above the Earth, that people can not go through.

The claim is we cannot go through the Van Allen Radiation Belts.

Pick one and stick with it? Can you go above the Earth or not? Are there "belts" outside the Earth, and if so, how was this found?

The Van Allen Radiation Belts would be right before the dome. If you can't get past the radiation belts, you can't hit the top of the dome. That isn't contradictory.

Van Allen radiation belt

So you can't get past the dome, but you can't also get past some radiation? How do they know you can't get past the dome if they didn't get past the radiation belts? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[jaysabi]

All our technology and understanding of physics only works with a spherical planet. And it's verifiable for the whole world, it's not like such a huge conspiracy could be perpetrated. To believe so is to be especially removed reality. To be so ignorant of all the proof to cling to a disproven "theory" is a level of stupidity I don't need to engage.

I recently posted this thread, based on this article: NASA scientist says we may be living in a Matrix-like digital imprisonment designed by Aliens .

NASA scientist says we're living in a Matrix-like digital imprisonment, because "The idea that our Universe is a fiction generated by computer code solves a number of inconsistencies and mysteries about the cosmos."

There are a number of inconsistencies and mysteries about the cosmos.

"Another mystery explained by Dr Bostrom’s Matrix-like theory is the role of Dark Matter.
US theoretical cosmologist Michael Turner has called the hypothetical material “the most profound mystery in all of science”.

Dark Matter is one of many hypothetical materials used to explain a number of anomalies in the Standard Model – the all-encompassing theory science has used to explain the particles and forces of nature for the last 50 years."

There are a number of anomalies.

"If it exists, it would explain why galaxies spin at the speed they do – something which remains unexplained based only on what we can currently observe.

The Standard Model does not yet hold an explanation for the force of gravity."

This information is from May 13, 2015, and from a NASA scientist. They don't even know why gravity works the way it does. They're still trying to explain the mysteries away.

So you're suggesting that one theory that is not by any means respected as "likely" by anything approaching a majority of scientific peers, and that happens to solve some inconsistencies without addressing all inconsistencies, should be considered credible enough to be assumed valid?

[jaysabi]

Flat-earthers say there is a dome above the Earth, that people can not go through. This is why other countries were not able to go to the moon, and the one country that did was a country that is large in motion pictures productions. The claim is we cannot go through the Van Allen Radiation Belts.

If this was true, then the Soviets would have exposed our lies during the Cold War for a badly needed public victory and to prove how evil the United States was, which they were unconvincingly preaching to the rest of the world for several decades in an attempt to prove the ideological superiority of communism.

But I'm sure some idiot has a half-baked conspiracy theory about why the Soviets colluded, right? I mean, there would have to be, because we wouldn't want any reality to seep in to puncture that cocoon of delusion.

Honestly, living in such a delusional world must be absolutely exhausting because every fact that contradicts the false reality has to be explained away with another conspiracy theory. Coming up with counter-reasons for all the facts is a never-ending prospect. I can't imagine the effort required!

[MakingMoneyHoney]

All our technology and understanding of physics only works with a spherical planet. And it's verifiable for the whole world, it's not like such a huge conspiracy could be perpetrated. To believe so is to be especially removed reality. To be so ignorant of all the proof to cling to a disproven "theory" is a level of stupidity I don't need to engage.

I recently posted this thread, based on this article: NASA scientist says we may be living in a Matrix-like digital imprisonment designed by Aliens .

NASA scientist says we're living in a Matrix-like digital imprisonment, because "The idea that our Universe is a fiction generated by computer code solves a number of inconsistencies and mysteries about the cosmos."

There are a number of inconsistencies and mysteries about the cosmos.

"Another mystery explained by Dr Bostrom’s Matrix-like theory is the role of Dark Matter.
US theoretical cosmologist Michael Turner has called the hypothetical material “the most profound mystery in all of science”.

Dark Matter is one of many hypothetical materials used to explain a number of anomalies in the Standard Model – the all-encompassing theory science has used to explain the particles and forces of nature for the last 50 years."

There are a number of anomalies.

"If it exists, it would explain why galaxies spin at the speed they do – something which remains unexplained based only on what we can currently observe.

The Standard Model does not yet hold an explanation for the force of gravity."

This information is from May 13, 2015, and from a NASA scientist. They don't even know why gravity works the way it does. They're still trying to explain the mysteries away.

So you're suggesting that one theory that is not by any means respected as "likely" by anything approaching a majority of scientific peers, and that happens to solve some inconsistencies without addressing all inconsistencies, should be considered credible enough to be assumed valid?

No. I'm simply saying that there are inconsistencies that the scientists are still trying to figure out. Which would mean everything (about the globe earth and galaxy) can still be considered a theory if you allow for the theory this NASA scientist has, that the world we live in is nothing but a matrix imprisonment.

Either way, the reality is, we can never know for certain, unless you, yourself go and see space and look down on the Earth, but even then, it could all be a part of a matrix simulation, like the holodeck world in the Star Trek TNG.

[MakingMoneyHoney]

Flat-earthers say there is a dome above the Earth, that people can not go through. This is why other countries were not able to go to the moon, and the one country that did was a country that is large in motion pictures productions. The claim is we cannot go through the Van Allen Radiation Belts.

If this was true, then the Soviets would have exposed our lies during the Cold War for a badly needed public victory and to prove how evil the United States was, which they were unconvincingly preaching to the rest of the world for several decades in an attempt to prove the ideological superiority of communism.

But I'm sure some idiot has a half-baked conspiracy theory about why the Soviets colluded, right? I mean, there would have to be, because we wouldn't want any reality to seep in to puncture that cocoon of delusion.

Honestly, living in such a delusional world must be absolutely exhausting because every fact that contradicts the false reality has to be explained away with another conspiracy theory. Coming up with counter-reasons for all the facts is a never-ending prospect. I can't imagine the effort required!

Ah, yeah, the NWO theory. That the leaders in power want a new world order, a one world government, most likely the UN (you know the ones with the flat earth map on their logo?), and want the individual people to believe there could be aliens, and an alien threat, and then start a NWO to save us from it.

Former President Clinton: "If we were visited someday I wouldn't be surprised," Clinton said. "I just hope it's not like 'Independence Day.'"

Clinton went on to discuss some of the potential benefits to an alien invasion, framing his argument around the 1996 sci-fi disaster movie.

"It may be the only way to unite this increasingly divided world of ours … think about all the differences among people of Earth would seem small if we feel threatened by a space invader," Clinton said."

That's a common theme among presidents.

More info on the UN.

[MakingMoneyHoney]

This is a pretty long video, but very interesting listen, if you're into these theories.

Flat Earth Clues Interview 12 - Canary Cry Radio via Skype Audio


This is a map with info from the national weather service:

http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/equirectangular

From the about page:

earth

a visualization of global weather conditions

forecast by supercomputers

updated every three hours

 

ocean surface current estimates

updated every five days

 

ocean surface temperatures and

anomaly from daily average (1981-2011)

updated daily

 

ocean waves

updated every three hours

If you click on the "Earth" name on the left hand side, you can change the settings. You can grab the globe and turn it around 3 dimensionally. You can change temperatures. You can flip back and forth between the map types.

The Globe is the letter 'O' under the Projection option.

The Flat Earth is the 'AE' stands for Azimuthal equidistant projection

I encourage everyone to check it out, it's pretty cool.

Edit: I just noticed Antartica has some really cold temps! Nowhere near as warm as it is on the North Pole. The North Pole is .6 degrees Celsius.... it's -52 degrees Celsius in Antartica.

[Okurkabinladin]

I think some people have way to much spare time on their hands for their own good.

Its funny, when you think how deluded these people are.

So how does the internet work, huh? Since the Earth is flat, the satellite network cannot exist, there is no signal broadcast and no internet!

[notbatman]

I think some people have way to much spare time on their hands for their own good.

Its funny, when you think how deluded these people are.

So how does the internet work, huh? Since the Earth is flat, the satellite network cannot exist, there is no signal broadcast and no internet!

The internet is carried over fiber optic cables not bounced off the ionosphere with microwaves (satellite).