Usagi: falsifying NAVs, manipulating share prices and misleading investors.

[BCB]

usagi

I don't read your posts.  They make no sense.  You repeat things you said before.  You post links to links to links all in an effort to obfuscate.

I don't believe you, I don't trust you and you have zero credibility with me and many in this community.

If you post facts, statements made, payments received and payments made then maybe we could come to some resolution.  Math does not lie.

However you do not.  It has been show time and time again that you are dishonest and duplicitous.  If that is how you choose to run you businesses that is you choice.  I, for one would prefer you not run this type of business in the bitcoin community.

Look at the thread of a business like Tangible Cryptology, probably one of the most trusted and respected business in the community. There are always some complaints but there is also post after post of satisfied customers.  Then look at any one of your threads.  They are train wreck.  You are accused again and and again in thread after thread. 

Then you supply a list anonymous list of "Satisified User" quotes.  NOBODY believes you. 

Why would you detractors make these complaints up??  Yes there are HUGE personality conflicts in this community all the time.  And it is easy to see where pissed off people make complaints.  Look at any of the Mt Gox threads.  Look at the some of the  Bitinstant threads.  However in these threads the owners do not attack their customers, (unless it is phantomcircuit of Intersango - another clusterfuck) they explain the situation causing any problem and resolve the disputes and these business continue.

It is clear from the many complaints in your many threads and you responses to complaints in your threads that you are incompetent, dishonest, duplicitous and I believe committing fraudulent activity and that you should be tagged a SCAMMER.

If anyone in the community would like to support you or  feels that I am being unfair to you please post here or pm me directly.

I have  locked my thread to prevent you incessant sperging which only serves to cloud any issue being debated.   I will post any PM that I receive in your defense.   I will NOT post any of your PM's until you supply me specific facts that refute any of the claims being made.

Also that fact that you deleted over 1000 of your posts and your wordpress site only lend credence to your lack of honesty and credibility. 

[augustocroppo]

The events in discussion:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112443.msg1225553#msg1225553

The value of the hardware is what we paid for it, which includes shipping. Bitpay invoice numbers are listed. Not a scam.

Shipping costs are an ASSET now?
ROFL.
Maybe you should put your electricity costs in there too to boost your NAV!

The spreadsheet uses a formula which uses the average of the 24h and 5 day averages* Not a scam.
*=max(fetchTicker(concatenate(A13), "t5davg"), fetchTicker(concatenate(A13), "t24havg"))/100000000

How come it produces some prices that are way higher than even 3 month highs then?
How come it produces results that are 20+% above mine?
I checked my numbers against GLSBE website, and unlike yours, mine seem correct. Do you see anything wrong with them?

Sorry puppet, you lose. And for god's sake make your own thread.

Maged specifically asked, Im happy to oblige.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=113708.msg1228703#msg1228703

Well I was preparing some documentation, and I didn't have enough time to prepare.. But since puppet posted, I'll release my accusation of usagi's lies:

Exhibit

The spreadsheet uses a formula which uses the average of the 24h and 5 day averages* Not a scam.
*=max(fetchTicker(concatenate(A13), "t5davg"), fetchTicker(concatenate(A13), "t24havg"))/100000000

The above formula isn't average, it returns the largest of two averages.

http://kongzi.ca/BCB/misrepresent1/

Comment: This was at 10:22. This is where I posted the formula for it to be advertised to all investors. Now please go back up and look at Vampire's quote: Quote from: usagi on September 27, 2012, 04:24:25 PM.

In other words, before I posted that, I had already begun advertising the proper formula on the webage and spreadsheet.

Proofing the events (since I witnessed the events while in Brazil, the conversion is made from BRT to PST):

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=01%3A24%3A25+PM+BRT+27+September+2012+to+PST

1. Usagi publish the formula in a post: 9:24:25 am PDT  |  Thursday, September 27, 2012

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=01%3A35%3A21+PM+BRT+27+September+2012+to+PST

2. Puppet post accusing Usagi: 9:35:21 am PDT  |  Thursday, September 27, 2012

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=10%3A22%3A00+AM+PDT+27+September+2012+to+PST

3. Usagi publish the formula in the spreedsheet: 10:22:00 am PDT  |  Thursday, September 27, 2012

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=01%3A55%3A42+PM+BRT+28+September+2012+to+PST

4. Vampire post accusing Usagi: 9:55:42 am PDT  |  Friday, September 28, 2012


Discussing the proven events:

To determine if the above evidence indicates that Usagi was lying (and trying to defraud his potential investors) it is essential to understand what the world "lie" means:

http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/lie--2

lie
noun
an intentionally false statement

If Usagi was really lying, there must be an intention to produce a 'false statement'. The primary evidence used in the accusation against Usagi is a spreadsheet formula used to inform potential investors of the fund's NAV (Net Asset Value). So, in accordance with the definiton of "lie" and the primary evidence provided, the accusation is based on the premise that Usagi defrauded his investors with the incorrect use of a formula.

Vampire claimed that Usagi was lying because Usagi used the term "average", and not "max of two averages". This implies that Usagi was trying to trick the investors into believing that he was using a formula calculating "average" and not "max of two averages". However, in the event 2 and 4, there is no mention of which correct formula Usagi should use. Usagi did not change the formula in the event 1 and 3. Therefore, it's reasonable to conclude that the formula was at no time manipulated.

Vampire and Puppet had not demonstrated Usagi's intention to produce a 'false statement'. Puppet did not indicate what should be the correct formula. Vampire merely made a question insinuating that the statement was incorrect, not the formula. Neither produced any evidence to determine the correct formula.

So it is obvious that Usagi did not attempt to defraud any potential investors. That would only be possible if Usagi had consecutively advertised the formula as "average" and not "max of two averages" after the event 1. Moreover, if Usagi had the intention to defraud his investors, he would change the formula from "max of two averages" to "average" to fit his supposedly 'false statement' in the evidence 1. That, of course, is  NOT what happened. The evidence 1 and 3 indicates that Usagi had already planned to use his formula before Puppet and Vampire accused him of attempting fraud in the event 2 and 4.


Comparing the proven events with other claims:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133823.msg1425098#msg1425098

Usgai deleted the agreements and all statements.
Vampire claims to  prove that the financial statements are fraudulent.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=113708.msg1228703#msg1228703

This is evidence of a "Cover Up"

BCB claimed that the event 4 is 'evidence of a' "cover up" of 'agreements' and 'statements'.

The evidence provided in the event 1 is one of the alleged statements. This is a priori from the fact that Vampire claimed that Usagi was advertising a false formula to defraud potential investors:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=113708.msg1367800#msg1367800

For fraud check the statement #1 which you avoided. AVG and MAX are two different functions. That's fraud.

However, Vampire's claim was never proven to be true. Usagi did not change the planned formula after the supposedly false statement. So whatever posts Usagi deleted, it was not evidence of fraud, but statements which users used to falsely accuse Usagi.


Conclusion

The evidence shows that Usagi committed a mistake when he proposed the NAV formula. Then Puppet attempted to use the mistake to accuse Usagi of falsifying the NAV results to defraud investors. After realizing his mistake, Usagi did not persiste in the error and edited the spreadsheet to demonstrate his honest intentions. Later along came Vampire with another false accusation, claiming that Usagi was intentionally defrauding the potential investors to believing the NAV formula was showing "average", not "max of two averages". After this, Usagi deleted all his posts. However, Puppet and Vampire did not prove what would be the correct formula. They also did not determine how Usagi intentionally defrauded the investors.

Therefore Usagi did not defraud any potential investor with his formula.

Hence, the events prove that Puppet and Vampire were casting aspersions on Usagi.

[KWH]

Interesting but deleting 100's of posts, (potential evidence for or against), is pretty damning in of itself. Also, all the thread and post spamming, name calling, bad attitude and general bully tactics does not speak well either. Massive thread and post spamming of duplicate and triplicate information over and over is a red flag as well, makes one not want to read anything. TLDR syndrome.
There are quite a few that despise Usagi and want him purged no matter what. From what I have read, it seems to be self inflicted.
So, who has the final say in these matters?

[BCB]

Interesting but deleting 100's of posts, (potential evidence for or against), is pretty damning in of itself. Also, all the thread and post spamming, name calling, bad attitude and general bully tactics does not speak well either. Massive thread and post spamming of duplicate and triplicate information over and over is a red flag as well, makes one not want to read anything. TLDR syndrome.
There are quite a few that despise Usagi and want him purged no matter what. From what I have read, it seems to be self inflicted.
So, who has the final say in these matters?

Only theymos the site administrator can apply a scammer tag.

[BCB]

UPDATED:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133823.msg1429366#msg1429366

[vampire]

The events in discussion:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112443.msg1225553#msg1225553

The value of the hardware is what we paid for it, which includes shipping. Bitpay invoice numbers are listed. Not a scam.

Shipping costs are an ASSET now?
ROFL.
Maybe you should put your electricity costs in there too to boost your NAV!

The spreadsheet uses a formula which uses the average of the 24h and 5 day averages* Not a scam.
*=max(fetchTicker(concatenate(A13), "t5davg"), fetchTicker(concatenate(A13), "t24havg"))/100000000

How come it produces some prices that are way higher than even 3 month highs then?
How come it produces results that are 20+% above mine?
I checked my numbers against GLSBE website, and unlike yours, mine seem correct. Do you see anything wrong with them?

Sorry puppet, you lose. And for god's sake make your own thread.

Maged specifically asked, Im happy to oblige.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=113708.msg1228703#msg1228703

Well I was preparing some documentation, and I didn't have enough time to prepare.. But since puppet posted, I'll release my accusation of usagi's lies:

Exhibit

The spreadsheet uses a formula which uses the average of the 24h and 5 day averages* Not a scam.
*=max(fetchTicker(concatenate(A13), "t5davg"), fetchTicker(concatenate(A13), "t24havg"))/100000000

The above formula isn't average, it returns the largest of two averages.

http://kongzi.ca/BCB/misrepresent1/

Comment: This was at 10:22. This is where I posted the formula for it to be advertised to all investors. Now please go back up and look at Vampire's quote: Quote from: usagi on September 27, 2012, 04:24:25 PM.

In other words, before I posted that, I had already begun advertising the proper formula on the webage and spreadsheet.

Proofing the events (since I witnessed the events while in Brazil, the conversion is made from BRT to PST):

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=01%3A24%3A25+PM+BRT+27+September+2012+to+PST

1. Usagi publish the formula in a post: 9:24:25 am PDT  |  Thursday, September 27, 2012

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=01%3A35%3A21+PM+BRT+27+September+2012+to+PST

2. Puppet post accusing Usagi: 9:35:21 am PDT  |  Thursday, September 27, 2012

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=10%3A22%3A00+AM+PDT+27+September+2012+to+PST

3. Usagi publish the formula in the spreedsheet: 10:22:00 am PDT  |  Thursday, September 27, 2012

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=01%3A55%3A42+PM+BRT+28+September+2012+to+PST

4. Vampire post accusing Usagi: 9:55:42 am PDT  |  Friday, September 28, 2012


Discussing the proven events:

To determine if the above evidence indicates that Usagi was lying (and trying to defraud his potential investors) it is essential to understand what the world "lie" means:

http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/lie--2

lie
noun
an intentionally false statement

If Usagi was really lying, there must be an intention to produce a 'false statement'. The primary evidence used in the accusation against Usagi is a spreadsheet formula used to inform potential investors of the fund's NAV (Net Asset Value). So, in accordance with the definiton of "lie" and the primary evidence provided, the accusation is based on the premise that Usagi defrauded his investors with the incorrect use of a formula.

Vampire claimed that Usagi was lying because Usagi used the term "average", and not "max of two averages". This implies that Usagi was trying to trick the investors into believing that he was using a formula calculating "average" and not "max of two averages". However, in the event 2 and 4, there is no mention of which correct formula Usagi should use. Usagi did not change the formula in the event 1 and 3. Therefore, it's reasonable to conclude that the formula was at no time manipulated.

Vampire and Puppet had not demonstrated Usagi's intention to produce a 'false statement'. Puppet did not indicate what should be the correct formula. Vampire merely made a question insinuating that the statement was incorrect, not the formula. Neither produced any evidence to determine the correct formula.

So it is obvious that Usagi did not attempt to defraud any potential investors. That would only be possible if Usagi had consecutively advertised the formula as "average" and not "max of two averages" after the event 1. Moreover, if Usagi had the intention to defraud his investors, he would change the formula from "max of two averages" to "average" to fit his supposedly 'false statement' in the evidence 1. That, of course, is  NOT what happened. The evidence 1 and 3 indicates that Usagi had already planned to use his formula before Puppet and Vampire accused him of attempting fraud in the event 2 and 4.


Comparing the proven events with other claims:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133823.msg1425098#msg1425098

Usgai deleted the agreements and all statements.
Vampire claims to  prove that the financial statements are fraudulent.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=113708.msg1228703#msg1228703

This is evidence of a "Cover Up"

BCB claimed that the event 4 is 'evidence of a' "cover up" of 'agreements' and 'statements'.

The evidence provided in the event 1 is one of the alleged statements. This is a priori from the fact that Vampire claimed that Usagi was advertising a false formula to defraud potential investors:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=113708.msg1367800#msg1367800

For fraud check the statement #1 which you avoided. AVG and MAX are two different functions. That's fraud.

However, Vampire's claim was never proven to be true. Usagi did not change the planned formula after the supposedly false statement. So whatever posts Usagi deleted, it was not evidence of fraud, but statements which users used to falsely accuse Usagi.


Conclusion

The evidence shows that Usagi committed a mistake when he proposed the NAV formula. Then Puppet attempted to use the mistake to accuse Usagi of falsifying the NAV results to defraud investors. After realizing his mistake, Usagi did not persiste in the error and edited the spreadsheet to demonstrate his honest intentions. Later along came Vampire with another false accusation, claiming that Usagi was intentionally defrauding the potential investors to believing the NAV formula was showing "average", not "max of two averages". After this, Usagi deleted all his posts. However, Puppet and Vampire did not prove what would be the correct formula. They also did not determine how Usagi intentionally defrauded the investors.

Therefore Usagi did not defraud any potential investor with his formula.

Hence, the events prove that Puppet and Vampire were casting aspersions on Usagi.

So puppet didn't accuse usagi right here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112443.60 ?

Now personally, I wouldnt give someone a scammer tag over something like this.
However, if you are looking for a better reason, I would  suggest you look at this post:

The NAV of BMF is approximately 0.50. We will be placing aggressive bids at .45 to .50.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112734.0

Those are demonstrably lies. First of all, the highest bid is currently 0.4104.

Secondly, if you calculate the NAV using usagi's published asset list here:
http://tsukino.ca/bmf/holdings-nav/
After you correct the prices and you list the fpga and asics at actual list value and not 20% above BFLs listprice,  I got to  0.262 BTC per share at the time it was posted:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112734.msg1219660#msg1219660

It's prior to any of your timeline, therefor you can stick your logical conclusions you know where.

[vampire]

Vampire and Puppet had not demonstrated Usagi's intention to produce a 'false statement'.

As of right now my intention is prove that the false statements happened. Are you denying that they did? Yes or No?

The intention was proved separately here, as defined by law in United States:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133819.msg1424900#msg1424900

I'll quote it for you:

The relationship between parties can make a difference in determining whether a statement is fraudulent. A misleading statement is more likely to be fraudulent when one party has superior knowledge in a transaction, and knows that the other is relying on that knowledge, than when the two parties possess equal knowledge. For example, if the seller of a car with a bad engine tells the buyer the car is in excellent running condition, a court is more likely to find fraud if the seller is an auto mechanic as opposed to a sales trainee. Misleading statements are most likely to be fraudulent where one party exploits a position of trust and confidence, or a fiduciary relationship. Fiduciary relationships include those between attorneys and clients, physicians and patients, stockbrokers and clients, and the officers and partners of a corporation and its stockholders.

Directly from: http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/fraud

Also he's guilty of http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/extrinsic%20fraud

By destroying the evidence, he's guilty of extrinsic fraud.

[BCB]

[snip]
It's 2:44am in Japan now. All the NYAN and BMF spreadsheets were shown with last update times in JST. I've mentioned dozens of times I live in asia.
[/snip]

usagi,  you state the time in Japan.  Then you say that you live in Asia.

Could you please confirm that you are currently locate in Japan, please.

Thank you.

[repentance]

One question which I believe needs addressing is what people believe usagi needs to do to fix things.

I think that usagi will probably reject proposed remedies because he doesn't believe he's done anything wrong in the first place, but it would be helpful to get a clear picture of what people actually want usagi to do to address their grievances.

Also, does anyone have a rough idea of the total amount of funds people are currently waiting to have returned to them by usagi?  Are we talking a few hundred BTC here or tens of thousands of BTC?

[BCB]

Updated with some deleted posts.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133823.msg1429761#msg1429761

[usagi]

One question which I believe needs addressing is what people believe usagi needs to do to fix things.

I think that usagi will probably reject proposed remedies because he doesn't believe he's done anything wrong in the first place, but it would be helpful to get a clear picture of what people actually want usagi to do to address their grievances.

Also, does anyone have a rough idea of the total amount of funds people are currently waiting to have returned to them by usagi?  Are we talking a few hundred BTC here or tens of thousands of BTC?

This is, I believe, an important idea.

I feel like vampire (and others before him) are simply layering accusation after accusation. I feel it will take months if not years to properly respond, however BCB states he doesn't read my posts so I fear there is in fact no way for me to respond to his allegations.

I fear three things will occur:

1. That the accusations alone (without evidence) will cause people to avoid me. This has already happened, demonstrably, and I have lost money from it, demonstrably.
2. That I be given a scammer tag "because usagi". Example; BCB has posted that I have misappropriated company funds but not linked any evidence to support that statement. I'm not sure where he's going with that one (or six of the other dozen+ he's accused me of).
3. That I be labeled a scammer for something inadvertent but I ended up deserving, with no way to make amends.

The rough estimate of what my companies owe is the assets we held. These are being discussed in the post 'final claims process' on the securities forum.

Now here's my idea of what can/should be done.
1. In the case where I'm found guilty of something which requires a scammer tag, we need to put a bitcoin value on it. That is the primary complaint, right?
2. I then propose I pay this amount back to shareholders. I will agree to what the shareholders want. Also, I will not vote in any such motion with company shares or management shares. I reserve the right to vote with personal shares as is my right as a paying shareholder. Conflict of interest? No, I paid for my personal shares.

For example. Let's say I was found guilty of the bmf/cpa contract thing. (Please note I can prove I paid 100 BTC of personal money to BMF, that I returned 100 or 200 shares to BMF from CPA, and that I donated the output of a BFL single to BMF -- so I am not admitting anything till I get a chance to fully respond later). In that case I would propose a fine of 100 BTC to be paid directly to BMF shareholders. That is honest and realistic. I would propose that it be put to shareholder vote.

If that is not acceptable, provided I have a guarantee that I will be treated fairly, I will agree that such a case could be decided by the community (example: BCB). Since BCB has agreed to be a central clearing house for all complaints against me, if BCB states he will drop the charge I will agree to pay the shareholders the 100 BTC (for example). 100 btc in this case, because that is the amount stated in the contract.

Please note -- this would be a personal payment and would not, in this case, affect CPA. For example.

Another way this could be resolved, is if I offer to cancel some or all of my personal holdings in my companies --  thus increasing the value of the remaining company shares. As long as the penalty would be handled fairly and equitablty I would agree to it. I.E. no "dump it all" crap. I put a lot of personal money into this and I lost almost all of it trying to "sweeten the deal" by (example) gifting 100 BTC to BMF investors in motion 80, or donating 4,000 of my personal shares to NYAN.B to put a smile on .C shareholder's faces. I feel that should be taken into account by a fair arbiter.

What do you think of an idea like that, repentance? In return... I want peace. That's it. I want peace from these accusations, forever.

Actually I will be honest with you about something. At this point, looking down the new year 2013, and realizing I will have to spend the next six months of my life fighting BCB, I am actually willing to agree to something like this right now. When I said I was sick earlier I meant it. I have some very important things to take care of in my life this year, like my kids growing up, that I don't want to miss. When I worked on BMF, NYAN, and CPA I threw my whole heart into it and I spent 10 hours a day or more on the computer trading and talking to asset issuers. I actually don't want to go back to that place even if it's reasonably successful. I just want the accusations to stop and to get on with my life. So actually if BCB is open to something like this maybe we can start moving in that direction.

Let's be honest. There are dozens of accusations. What will probably happen is many will be found without merit (i.e. kongzi.ca/BCB/misrepresent1) and some will end up at the very least unprovable. Given how I've been dogged seeking a resolution in that manner is probably better than wasting my life responding to allegations no one can prove but everyone believes anyways. So that's my idea.

[vampire]

One question which I believe needs addressing is what people believe usagi needs to do to fix things.

I think that usagi will probably reject proposed remedies because he doesn't believe he's done anything wrong in the first place, but it would be helpful to get a clear picture of what people actually want usagi to do to address their grievances.

Also, does anyone have a rough idea of the total amount of funds people are currently waiting to have returned to them by usagi?  Are we talking a few hundred BTC here or tens of thousands of BTC?

Return of the investment of course. But he refused to do so far. Usagi doesn't understand that even if he didn't do anything criminal (he's an idiot that doesn't know to calculate) he's still liable for damages. I am implying that he's criminally liable.

[usagi]

One question which I believe needs addressing is what people believe usagi needs to do to fix things.

I think that usagi will probably reject proposed remedies because he doesn't believe he's done anything wrong in the first place, but it would be helpful to get a clear picture of what people actually want usagi to do to address their grievances.

Also, does anyone have a rough idea of the total amount of funds people are currently waiting to have returned to them by usagi?  Are we talking a few hundred BTC here or tens of thousands of BTC?

Return of the investment of course. But he refused to do so far. Usagi doesn't understand that even if he didn't do anything criminal (he's an idiot that doesn't know to calculate) he's still liable for damages. I am implying that he's criminally liable.

Vampire part of your going through BCB is that the community seems to have agreed he will be the arbiter. It's probably in your best interest now to stop making wild accusations, and give the evidence you have to BCB.

I will not have time or energy to respond to 5 different people anymore. Go through him... just a thought.

[vampire]

Vampire part of your going through BCB is that the community seems to have agreed he will be the arbiter. It's probably in your best interest now to stop making wild accusations, and give the evidence you have to BCB.

I will not have time or energy to respond to 5 different people anymore. Go through him... just a thought.

If you accept that BCB's decision is binding I'll stop making posts.

[repentance]

What do you think of an idea like that, repentance? In return... I want peace. That's it. I want peace from these accusations, forever.

I think your proposals are a good starting point.  While they might not be acceptable to your shareholders, I think it's reasonable that if they're not acceptable people make a counter-proposal of their own.  I believe it's up to your shareholders to assess each proposal on its merits so I'm not going to comment on any of the proposals themselves other than to say that I think that discussing proposals and counter-proposals is something I view as the only productive way forward in this mess.

[vampire]

Vampire part of your going through BCB is that the community seems to have agreed he will be the arbiter. It's probably in your best interest now to stop making wild accusations, and give the evidence you have to BCB.

I will not have time or energy to respond to 5 different people anymore. Go through him... just a thought.

Are you threatening me? LOL.

Or what usagi? May be I'll file a criminal complaint against you in Ontario?

Here is a hint:

Sale of illegal securities.
Fraud
Failure to pay canadian tax income

[BCB]

Usagi

Could you please confirm that you live in Japan. 

[Deprived]

Usagi

Could you please confirm that you live in Japan. 

Usagi doesn't live in Japan - he just likes to claim to be a Japanese female.  He's in Republic of China (Taiwan).

[BCB]

Usagi

Could you please confirm that you live in Japan.  

Usagi doesn't live in Japan - he just likes to claim to be a Japanese female.  He's in Republic of China (Taiwan).

Is that in the same time zone as JST?

[BCB]

Usgai

Why is it that you can sperg pages and pages of useless nonsense but you can not answer a simple question?