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December 16, 2016, 07:50:45 PM
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People without any knowledge of anarchism equate anarchy with chaos and bloodshed, and I agree that such a thing would happen if governments just disappeared.
Anarchism is a political philosophy in which the members do away with all laws and governments. (At least, that's how I understand it.)

That's right, anarchism also has its own rules that must be strictly implement. It is not chaos, but has its own system with its own rules
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December 16, 2016, 08:47:38 PM
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The Seasteading Institute.



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December 18, 2016, 12:55:44 AM
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Call me paranoid but unless that design can float, it would be in danger of the polar icecaps melting or any number of natural disasters that occur fairly regularly...
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December 18, 2016, 01:18:49 AM
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Call me paranoid but unless that design can float, it would be in danger of the polar icecaps melting or any number of natural disasters that occur fairly regularly...

I think the walls are pretty high.
Tbh. I think instead of building walls the city should be able to submerge but then depending on the size of the city that would be very hard to do.

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December 18, 2016, 03:38:13 AM
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The Seasteading Institute.



http://www.seasteading.org/



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Call me paranoid but unless that design can float, it would be in danger of the polar icecaps melting or any number of natural disasters that occur fairly regularly...

I think the walls are pretty high.
Tbh. I think instead of building walls the city should be able to submerge but then depending on the size of the city that would be very hard to do.

It's a floating island. Look it up on the Net.    Cool
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December 18, 2016, 03:56:05 AM
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The Seasteading Institute.



http://www.seasteading.org/



Cool

Call me paranoid but unless that design can float, it would be in danger of the polar icecaps melting or any number of natural disasters that occur fairly regularly...

I think the walls are pretty high.
Tbh. I think instead of building walls the city should be able to submerge but then depending on the size of the city that would be very hard to do.

It's a floating island. Look it up on the Net.    Cool

i would suggest a ring road to link the islands at the outer perimeter because you dont want the congestion  of the whole island having to pass through the central  bottleneck for anyone to get anywhere
only having 1 route through the centre to get from a to b
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December 18, 2016, 11:36:39 AM
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OROBTC if you want to argue the position of an extreme mad max world into a bottomless pit, then I won't stand in your way. That is why we are also working on an anonymous Knowledge Age.

My point is assuming a world that still has some semblance of law, respect for international law which they explicitly ratified on a country-by-country basis, and respect for property rights then I offer a proposal.

Btw, there is an incredibly remote (no airplane service within 1000 kilometers) island nation with only 56 citizens (who will I presume likely be impoverished if cruise ships stop running in a global economic collapse) which will be ripe for buyout in the coming global economic collapse.


Would The Philippines respect your sovereignty if someone bought one of the islands on the "margin" (remote)?  Bet they would not, bet they would not respect UN rulez (technicalitiez) re "stateless people".

Only 56 people?  It's not Nauru (my first guess, 10,000 there (Wikipedia)).

Ahh, got it.  Pitcairn.   I wonder how much they would want (and we pay them to leave)?  It is (story link below) a British Overseas Territory, so might not be for sale.  Would guess NOT.

Here's a story with pictures for the readers of this thread on Pitcairn, no one wants to move there (wiki also has an article):

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/pitcairnislands/11418280/Why-will-nobody-move-to-Pitcairn-the-Pacific-island-with-free-land.html

Looks kind of nice actually...



My country can't even assert its sovereignty on its own islands. Those islands the Chinese took aren't going to be retaken any time soon. If an island-nation would suddenly pop into existence within our borders (well we don't have land borders so it's easier) I'd prefer that it don't have the capability to annex more islands. Who knows, if it develop into something like Singapore, then great, we have a nearby trade partner.
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December 18, 2016, 12:48:47 PM
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The Seasteading Institute.



http://www.seasteading.org/



Cool

Call me paranoid but unless that design can float, it would be in danger of the polar icecaps melting or any number of natural disasters that occur fairly regularly...

I think the walls are pretty high.
Tbh. I think instead of building walls the city should be able to submerge but then depending on the size of the city that would be very hard to do.

It's a floating island. Look it up on the Net.    Cool

i would suggest a ring road to link the islands at the outer perimeter because you dont want the congestion  of the whole island having to pass through the central  bottleneck for anyone to get anywhere
only having 1 route through the centre to get from a to b

Let them know at their website - http://www.seasteading.org/. Get on their email list. They like to hear all the suggestions that they can. You might even pre-purchase a spot for when they eventually get it going.

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December 18, 2016, 12:51:48 PM
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OROBTC if you want to argue the position of an extreme mad max world into a bottomless pit, then I won't stand in your way. That is why we are also working on an anonymous Knowledge Age.

My point is assuming a world that still has some semblance of law, respect for international law which they explicitly ratified on a country-by-country basis, and respect for property rights then I offer a proposal.

Btw, there is an incredibly remote (no airplane service within 1000 kilometers) island nation with only 56 citizens (who will I presume likely be impoverished if cruise ships stop running in a global economic collapse) which will be ripe for buyout in the coming global economic collapse.


Would The Philippines respect your sovereignty if someone bought one of the islands on the "margin" (remote)?  Bet they would not, bet they would not respect UN rulez (technicalitiez) re "stateless people".

Only 56 people?  It's not Nauru (my first guess, 10,000 there (Wikipedia)).

Ahh, got it.  Pitcairn.   I wonder how much they would want (and we pay them to leave)?  It is (story link below) a British Overseas Territory, so might not be for sale.  Would guess NOT.

Here's a story with pictures for the readers of this thread on Pitcairn, no one wants to move there (wiki also has an article):

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/pitcairnislands/11418280/Why-will-nobody-move-to-Pitcairn-the-Pacific-island-with-free-land.html

Looks kind of nice actually...


It's a floating island. The promoters are attempting to make treaties with various nations and island nations, to allow them a place near their nation to build their floating island. Once built, it could be floated anywhere.

Cool
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December 20, 2016, 03:49:02 AM
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OROBTC if you want to argue the position of an extreme mad max world into a bottomless pit, then I won't stand in your way. That is why we are also working on an anonymous Knowledge Age.

My point is assuming a world that still has some semblance of law, respect for international law which they explicitly ratified on a country-by-country basis, and respect for property rights then I offer a proposal.

Btw, there is an incredibly remote (no airplane service within 1000 kilometers) island nation with only 56 citizens (who will I presume likely be impoverished if cruise ships stop running in a global economic collapse) which will be ripe for buyout in the coming global economic collapse.


Would The Philippines respect your sovereignty if someone bought one of the islands on the "margin" (remote)?  Bet they would not, bet they would not respect UN rulez (technicalitiez) re "stateless people".

Only 56 people?  It's not Nauru (my first guess, 10,000 there (Wikipedia)).

Ahh, got it.  Pitcairn.   I wonder how much they would want (and we pay them to leave)?  It is (story link below) a British Overseas Territory, so might not be for sale.  Would guess NOT.

Here's a story with pictures for the readers of this thread on Pitcairn, no one wants to move there (wiki also has an article):

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/pitcairnislands/11418280/Why-will-nobody-move-to-Pitcairn-the-Pacific-island-with-free-land.html

Looks kind of nice actually...


It's a floating island. The promoters are attempting to make treaties with various nations and island nations, to allow them a place near their nation to build their floating island. Once built, it could be floated anywhere.

Cool

Nice. I hope they'd be able to share the technology. Many of the larger cities here in the Philippines are near the coastline and would probably be submerged when the water level rises.
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December 20, 2016, 09:18:36 AM
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OROBTC if you want to argue the position of an extreme mad max world into a bottomless pit, then I won't stand in your way. That is why we are also working on an anonymous Knowledge Age.

My point is assuming a world that still has some semblance of law, respect for international law which they explicitly ratified on a country-by-country basis, and respect for property rights then I offer a proposal.

Btw, there is an incredibly remote (no airplane service within 1000 kilometers) island nation with only 56 citizens (who will I presume likely be impoverished if cruise ships stop running in a global economic collapse) which will be ripe for buyout in the coming global economic collapse.


Would The Philippines respect your sovereignty if someone bought one of the islands on the "margin" (remote)?  Bet they would not, bet they would not respect UN rulez (technicalitiez) re "stateless people".

Only 56 people?  It's not Nauru (my first guess, 10,000 there (Wikipedia)).

Ahh, got it.  Pitcairn.   I wonder how much they would want (and we pay them to leave)?  It is (story link below) a British Overseas Territory, so might not be for sale.  Would guess NOT.

Here's a story with pictures for the readers of this thread on Pitcairn, no one wants to move there (wiki also has an article):

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/pitcairnislands/11418280/Why-will-nobody-move-to-Pitcairn-the-Pacific-island-with-free-land.html

Looks kind of nice actually...


It's a floating island. The promoters are attempting to make treaties with various nations and island nations, to allow them a place near their nation to build their floating island. Once built, it could be floated anywhere.

Cool

Nice. I hope they'd be able to share the technology. Many of the larger cities here in the Philippines are near the coastline and would probably be submerged when the water level rises.

I would think that, at least to start with, they will use some standard technology that's already out there. For example, many people are ignorant of the fact that you can make boat hulls out of concrete. Yet this is standard boat-building knowledge.

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December 20, 2016, 05:08:34 PM
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Brother, not only you alone believe in the idea of an anarchist society. Nestor Makhno had tried to create the commune, but Communists did not let him develop the idea that . We must understand that in such a society do not need any money and furthermore cryptomoney. All this is described in the works of Pyotr Kropotkin.

Personally, I would like to live in Israel Kibbutz.

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December 20, 2016, 05:26:23 PM
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Brother, not only you alone believe in the idea of an anarchist society. Nestor Makhno had tried to create the commune, but Communists did not let him develop the idea that . We must understand that in such a society do not need any money and furthermore cryptomoney. All this is described in the works of Pyotr Kropotkin.

Personally, I would like to live in Israel Kibbutz.
I also don't believe in God. Moreover, Amosov made for people more than God, but everyone is talking about God and talking about Amosov I personally knew this great surgeon. Very smart man he was. And name me one good thing that made your God.
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December 20, 2016, 06:29:59 PM
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The physics of that won't work.
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The physics of that won't work.

Thank you for your highly detailed assessment.    Cool
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OK, a little late in the day, but...

Roger Ver - a.k.a bitcoin Jesus - and Olivier Janssens are trying to transform a long-sought after libertarian ideal into a reality. As CoinTelegraph reports, the pair has announced that they’re in the process of creating the first independent state governed by libertarian values – and they’ve invited any like-minded individuals to join them.

The pair said Friday that they’re working with a team of lawyers to try and figure out how to legally create their own independent country. Ver is a longtime advocate of bitcoin who surrendered his US citizenship and became a citizen of St. Kitts and Nevis a few years back.

The pair have yet to disclose the location, nor has indicated what entry standards would be required.


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-22/bitcoin-jesus-trying-create-sovereign-libertarian-utopia
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