Bitcointalk Account price estimator

[achow101]

edit: found the problem has me NOT as HERO MEMBER but as FULL with my ACTIVITY AT 196 my posts at 590

  as you can see from my little Avatar on the side of this message I am a HERO member and my ACTIVITY IS  840 and posts are 3525

quote below:

Name: Searing
Posts: 540
Activity: 196 (Full Member)
Potential Activity: 196 (Potential Full Member)
Post Quality: Very Poor
Trust: Neutral
Estimated Price: 0.11172000

so perhaps I have been 'vindicated' and it is all a bug

Heh. Whoops. I forgot to add the wait time code back in when I migrated the program to use JSoup earlier today. It probably got itself IP banned. I'll fix that now.

Edit: Should be fixed now.

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[Searing]

edit: found the problem has me NOT as HERO MEMBER but as FULL with my ACTIVITY AT 196 my posts at 590

  as you can see from my little Avatar on the side of this message I am a HERO member and my ACTIVITY IS  840 and posts are 3525

quote below:

Name: Searing
Posts: 540
Activity: 196 (Full Member)
Potential Activity: 196 (Potential Full Member)
Post Quality: Very Poor
Trust: Neutral
Estimated Price: 0.11172000

so perhaps I have been 'vindicated' and it is


a bug

Heh. Whoops. I forgot to add the wait time code back in when I migrated the program to use JSoup earlier today. It probably got itself IP banned. I'll fix that now.

Edit: Should be fixed now.

Much better.


 But look at my Avatar the posts etc are still wrong? so not quite there yet it shows 3530 you show 3467 so...


Took a long time though ..about 4 min (unless that is normal just pointing it out)

Appreciate the app and your efforts. Like most of us here we likely will never sell...but fun to look (my life is soooo lame)

Name: Searing
Posts: 3467
Activity: 840 (Hero Member)
Potential Activity: 840 (Potential Legendary *Note: Not guaranteed; The account can become Legendary anywhere between 775 and 1030)
Post Quality: Excellent
Trust: Neutral
Estimated Price: 0.52920000

[MTBTT]

I have a feeling that the estimations are way too high compared to the actual market price. I think the developers should at least update the formula/code at least once every, say fortnight. Otherwise it's not even an estimation instead it's just misleading information.

[achow101]

But look at my Avatar the posts etc are still wrong? so not quite there yet it shows 3530 you show 3467 so..

The site counts the posts by itself, it doesn't mirror from bitcointalk. This may lead to some discrepancies if any posts of yours were in a thread that is in a section that a normal account cannot access, like the trashcan. Since the bot can't read those posts, it won't know about them, but the forum still counts those posts since they are still stored in its databases.

Took a long time though ..about 4 min (unless that is normal just pointing it out)

Seems about right. I have to wait at least one second between requests to bitcointalk otherwise the forum will give the bot a temporary ip ban. To be safe it waits 1.01 seconds, so the minimum time it could possibly take is the number of pages of posts you have in your show posts page multiplied by 1.01. Of course it will take a little longer because fetching the page takes time and so does parsing it.

I have a feeling that the estimations are way too high compared to the actual market price. I think the developers should at least update the formula/code at least once every, say fortnight. Otherwise it's not even an estimation instead it's just misleading information.

It isn't misleading since there is more than just the price that is given. However if you think the prices are to high, suggest me a lower rate for the algorithm specified in the OP.

[MTBTT]

I think around a 1/3 reduction to the current algorithm would be better.

[Amadues]

I think around a 1/3 reduction to the current algorithm would be better.

for newbie/jr yes …
for some above, full/senior sometimes price is lower than the real value.
keep in mind that some one user/account develop thread with many replies and update (for example list of signature campaign).

[Proxiebuier]

i have idea to your site
if can you add bitcoin address have been posted of my bitcointalk account 
maybe like my stake address at meta or posted at games and round etc.
i think it's can help some people

it's just my opinion

That is a good idea. I think I can make it so that it would only get the addresses that you have posted in non quoted text, so it may grab an address that isn't yours. I would definitely make it so that it would only pull addresses from the stake your address thread and the marketplace section.

ohh it's nice idea "only posted address, not quoted"
i think i will donate some satosi if you realize it

[MTBTT]

I think around a 1/3 reduction to the current algorithm would be better.

for newbie/jr yes …
for some above, full/senior sometimes price is lower than the real value.
keep in mind that some one user/account develop thread with many replies and update (for example list of signature campaign).

Yeah... I've got a newbie account that is potential member that is valued at over 0.025 BTC lol. How I hope that is true.

[n691309]

Earlier i should wait to be in queue but now seems to work faster the bot, are you earning anything from these ads?

[n691309]

Btw i checked in your website and in visitorsbit and the potential activity is not the same there are missing (42 activity points are missing) 3x two-weeks period in bctalkaccountpricer, is that a bug?

[OC19850520]

Btw i checked in your website and in visitorsbit and the potential activity is not the same there are missing (42 activity points are missing) 3x two-weeks period in bctalkaccountpricer, is that a bug?

I have tested their site just now and its working perfect
can you post screenshot or UID that you tested on bctalkaccountpricer.com 

[DavieT1337]

hey the Site is reallyreally Cool  Ive seen my account is worth 0.06720000 
This function is great to see how much u would get for selling the Account! Awesome!

Keep this up!

regards
DavieT1337

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Great app. I'm experimenting with it. One problem I have is that it's not working :3

You say there is a place where you have to put in a bitcointalk account login, so it can check the user's trust, and I've made an account for this, but I can't find that snippet of code. Could you tell me where it is?

Hey OP, this guy's question has been left unanswered. I'm also wondering where to put the account details for the account checker bot? I want to host a price checker on my site, too.

PS. Do you have any idea when the installation instructions are coming?

[Decoded]

hey the Site is reallyreally Cool  Ive seen my account is worth 0.06720000 
This function is great to see how much u would get for selling the Account! Awesome!

Keep this up!

regards
DavieT1337

Why the sad face? 0.06 for a member account is alot. You can get a potential full member for 0.025 and a normal full member for 0.05. There's no reason to complain, and these account pricers usually overestimate (no offence OP)

[achow101]

Hey OP, this guy's question has been left unanswered. I'm also wondering where to put the account details for the account checker bot? I want to host a price checker on my site, too.

You put the account details here: https://github.com/achow101/BitcointalkAccountPricer/blob/master/src/com/achow101/bctalkaccountpricer/server/AccountPricer.java#L48

PS. Do you have any idea when the installation instructions are coming?

There are instructions here: https://github.com/achow101/BitcointalkAccountPricer/blob/master/DEVELOPING.md#installing-on-a-server. You need to compile the program before doing those.

[Arrakeen]

Does anyone else disagree with the community's view on 'post length'?

Sometimes a simple sentence or two is all that's needed - why do most services count the length of posts when a lot of times, 90% is useless filler or repetition?

Sometimes, less is more...

[achow101]

Does anyone else disagree with the community's view on 'post length'?

Sometimes a simple sentence or two is all that's needed - why do most services count the length of posts when a lot of times, 90% is useless filler or repetition?

Sometimes, less is more...

Because it is incredibly difficult to define when post quality is when writing a computer algorithm without getting into AI and all that sort of stuff. Post quality is subjective, and really the only way to determine post quality is through reading posts and determining that in you head. There is currently no simple way to put that into a computer program, it isn't objective, which makes it very very difficult. The best way to do that is objectively through the length of the post. In the vast majority of cases, long posts are usually of a higher quality than short posts. It takes more time and effort to formulate a long response, which many spammers do not do. Yes I agree that some short posts are good quality and that some long posts are not, but that is a difficult metric to put into code.

[achow101]

I have updated the site so that some more data is displayed.

Notable Changes:

• Addresses posted in non-quoted text are now displayed and linked to. If the address was posted multiple times, the first post is linked. The posted addresses are validated before they are displayed
• Information about the next potential rank is displayed.
• Calculation is adjusted down

Edit: Changed to include validation of addresses. add calc change

[kingaltcoins]

Do you have it's files ready to check out offline? Sometimes I have to wait for more than one hour in the queue. I have downloaded XAAMP and so I want to host the files and check it offline. Please pm me if you have the files. Thanks in advance

[achow101]

Do you have it's files ready to check out offline? Sometimes I have to wait for more than one hour in the queue. I have downloaded XAAMP and so I want to host the files and check it offline. Please pm me if you have the files. Thanks in advance

You will need Apache Tomcat. You can follow the instructions here: https://github.com/achow101/BitcointalkAccountPricer/blob/master/INSTALL.md#running-precompiled-release to download and run the compiled output that I have started posting.