Yesminer M20 / M10

[Searing]

Wow. Now they even offer some upgrade for their unconfirmed M20 and M10 miners:

https://www.yesminers.de/en/upgrades.html  

old scammer trick ....'be one of the few to get your 'improved' miner on you pre-order....limited time" ...the last 'blush on the rose' before they cut the stem

It will wrap up soon here now....they have milked it for all it is worth

(will now go an look at link above see how close a guess the above was)

heh...just read it ....wish I could see their BTC address and then tell how much BTC they have managed to scam....would be an interesting view of human nature


heh...just looked at above site at the products..not an 'internal view' to be seen...no chip pics nada ....

well this dead horse is almost done imho..the plug will be pulled imho before feb 1st or so (but then again it is not like they are getting busted for trying this and

spouting off about their unicorn product)

[Gornidah]

Offering an Overclock for a non existent miner?
Oh man, that's hilarious!!!! LOL

[Searing]

Offering an Overclock for a non existent miner?
Oh man, that's hilarious!!!! LOL

most equipment asic scams of this sort do this...."special offer....last chance to 1st pre-order folk" the old FOMO to bleed some more $$$

the next part of this drama will be the 'unfortunate delays' (end of the month) and to compensate we will INCREASE your hash rate for free

or double it for a 'modest fee'

then after that 'sorry about the delay we have had unanticipated supply problems'

then 'poof' the site goes away (probably by march)

they then go off ...make a 'new' imaginary miner.....and web site etc

rinse/wash/repeat

[Randywhorton]

It is sure now that the YES Miner folks are a scam!

I have turned my attention to trying to secure a SP50 Yukon by Spondoolies-Tech 110TH
I am trying to scrounge up to buy 2 units 
Found a company in Malaysia claiming they would sell me 2 and I am sending a friend there to visually see stock this week:

Spondoolies 110 TH/s SP50 Yukon Bitcoin Miner
Price: $13,120/unit
Product Specs:
 * Effective Hash Rate: 110 TH/s ± 10%
  * Controller: TI Sitara 1GHz (based on Beagle Bone Black)
  * Controller Board OS: Linux (embedded)
  * Mining Software: cgminer with custom plugin
  * Form Factor: 2 U rack mountable (mounting ears provided)
* Network: Single 10/100 Ethernet port
* Fans: 4 X 80 mm
  * Input Rating: 90 - 264 VAC
  * Ambient Operating Temperature: 0 °C to 35 °C
  * Emissions Compliance: FCC / CE
  * Safety Certification: CE

[torepia]

It is sure now that the YES Miner folks are a scam!

I have turned my attention to trying to secure a SP50 Yukon by Spondoolies-Tech 110TH
I am trying to scrounge up to buy 2 units 
Found a company in Malaysia claiming they would sell me 2 and I am sending a friend there to visually see stock this week:

Spondoolies 110 TH/s SP50 Yukon Bitcoin Miner
Price: $13,120/unit
Product Specs:
 * Effective Hash Rate: 110 TH/s ± 10%
  * Controller: TI Sitara 1GHz (based on Beagle Bone Black)
  * Controller Board OS: Linux (embedded)
  * Mining Software: cgminer with custom plugin
  * Form Factor: 2 U rack mountable (mounting ears provided)
* Network: Single 10/100 Ethernet port
* Fans: 4 X 80 mm
  * Input Rating: 90 - 264 VAC
  * Ambient Operating Temperature: 0 °C to 35 °C
  * Emissions Compliance: FCC / CE
  * Safety Certification: CE

Thats way too cheap, isnt it?
And 110TH @ 2U? Is that possible?

[Randywhorton]

The price is per unit and yes seems cheap. However, if a major player had blocked 500-1000 units for them self maybe they paid half of that.
The rumor prior to release last year was a speculated retail of $36,000 each. Only time will tell as they invited me to come and see the equipment which seems OK. I am lucky to have a lot of friends world wide so I asked one to go there this week. 

[J4bberwock]

The price is per unit and yes seems cheap. However, if a major player had blocked 500-1000 units for them self maybe they paid half of that.
The rumor prior to release last year was a speculated retail of $36,000 each. Only time will tell as they invited me to come and see the equipment which seems OK. I am lucky to have a lot of friends world wide so I asked one to go there this week. 

They can't even copy/paste correctly from the spondoolies website:

http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/sp50

Form Factor: 11 U rack mountable (mounting ears provided)

Network: Single 10/100 Ethernet port

Fans: 6 X 120 mm

Dont waste your time/money with them.

[Rabinovitch]

They are obstinately refusing to provide a unit for testing and review (I offfered to send a unit maybe not to me, but to any other trustworthy member of the cryptocommunity, but the answer was NO anyway). I offered to pay for it, but only after receiving the unit. I promised to bring them together with 2 of my parthers who are reday to buy some batch of newest miners. But the answer is NO again and again.

What is it if not a scam?

p.s. but I am still ready to disprove this statement - it's up to them.

[QuintLeo]

It is sure now that the YES Miner folks are a scam!

I have turned my attention to trying to secure a SP50 Yukon by Spondoolies-Tech 110TH
I am trying to scrounge up to buy 2 units 
Found a company in Malaysia claiming they would sell me 2 and I am sending a friend there to visually see stock this week:

Spondoolies 110 TH/s SP50 Yukon Bitcoin Miner
Price: $13,120/unit
Product Specs:
 * Effective Hash Rate: 110 TH/s ± 10%
  * Controller: TI Sitara 1GHz (based on Beagle Bone Black)
  * Controller Board OS: Linux (embedded)
  * Mining Software: cgminer with custom plugin
  * Form Factor: 2 U rack mountable (mounting ears provided)
* Network: Single 10/100 Ethernet port
* Fans: 4 X 80 mm
  * Input Rating: 90 - 264 VAC
  * Ambient Operating Temperature: 0 °C to 35 °C
  * Emissions Compliance: FCC / CE
  * Safety Certification: CE

Thats way too cheap, isnt it?
And 110TH @ 2U? Is that possible?

 2U and 80mm fans are NOT a SP50.
 Might be an SP31 or SP35 - if the units are real.

[willi9974]

Any news?
On the yesminers Homepage are the first batch with ~100 Miners in done / shipping status
In the next days we see some unboxing topics or a big SCAM

And the Homepage have listet Batch 2 :-).  SCAM the Second One

[Xircom]

Its not a scam, sorry folks. I just got my shipping date for 11 pcs M20 + upgrades.
I also knows what will be released from Yesminers end this year, but cant tell yet, just that all those miners out right now is obsolete from all other companies, even Spondoolies, Bitmain, Avalon and bitfury. I got pics from Yesminers of the Units and will post here when they arrive, if they do ;-)
Chips are from TSMC who also makes the KNC chips and only 1 other company besides Yesminers owns the right to the chips. The NDA should be liftet any day now and im waiting for this to be liftet.
2500 Miners is going to be produced totally and next production schedule is set to end April.
Lets see when the miners arrive how they perform.... if they arrive ;-)

[el_rlee]

Its not a scam, sorry folks. I just got my shipping date for 11 pcs M20 + upgrades.
I also knows what will be released from Yesminers end this year, but cant tell yet, just that all those miners out right now is obsolete from all other companies, even Spondoolies, Bitmain, Avalon and bitfury. I got pics from Yesminers of the Units and will post here when they arrive, if they do ;-)
Chips are from TSMC who also makes the KNC chips and only 1 other company besides Yesminers owns the right to the chips. The NDA should be liftet any day now and im waiting for this to be liftet.
2500 Miners is going to be produced totally and next production schedule is set to end April.
Lets see when the miners arrive how they perform.... if they arrive ;-)

So what's the ETA? You're the most reputable member judging by your forum status to endorse YM so far...

[Xircom]

They are shipping now according to the homepage, started first shipment the 16th, mine is scheduled to be week 4, so some time next week i guess.
I will make an review as soon as they arrive...275TH for 19KW power. I think we will see a lot of miners being turned off the next month or so, since 2500 miners at 15-25TH will make a hughe impact.
Even Bitfurys new chip is too late I think...

[alfacro]

They are shipping now according to the homepage, started first shipment the 16th, mine is scheduled to be week 4, so some time next week i guess.
I will make an review as soon as they arrive...275TH for 19KW power. I think we will see a lot of miners being turned off the next month or so, since 2500 miners at 15-25TH will make a hughe impact.
Even Bitfurys new chip is too late I think...

What is your order number ?

[bittalc1]

They are shipping now according to the homepage, started first shipment the 16th, mine is scheduled to be week 4, so some time next week i guess.
I will make an review as soon as they arrive...275TH for 19KW power. I think we will see a lot of miners being turned off the next month or so, since 2500 miners at 15-25TH will make a hughe impact.
Even Bitfurys new chip is too late I think...

What is your order number ?

That is the problem, i was reading in the german section for this and noone has tracking number. I think that they are trying to squeeze as much money as they can before they disapear.

[HagssFIN]

German section has basically a very bad feeling about this whole Yesminer thing.

[Xircom]

My number is 170 and 311.








Legal wise we have a signed contract with Yes miner and Volker Stuider made by Yesminers and our layers. This is only a test order from us and if they perform as promised they will be our generation 4 miners in our farm.
Still if this is a hoax, its pretty damn good one :-)

[AJRGale]

My number is 170 and 311.








Legal wise we have a signed contract with Yes miner and Volker Stuider made by Yesminers and our layers. This is only a test order from us and if they perform as promised they will be our generation 4 miners in our farm.
Still if this is a hoax, its pretty damn good one :-)

well, from someone just popping, with pictures of empty boxes, and a screen with a singe big bold number on a website, nope, I'm not sold. once one get in the hands of someone that is well known to test items, and not pay out of the ass for them, then I may be convinced

[Prelude]

My number is 170 and 311.








Legal wise we have a signed contract with Yes miner and Volker Stuider made by Yesminers and our layers. This is only a test order from us and if they perform as promised they will be our generation 4 miners in our farm.
Still if this is a hoax, its pretty damn good one :-)

As a metal fab company owner, I could knock out those casings in an afternoon if I needed to. It proves nothing, and is a small cost to further a profitable scam.

[dogie]

My number is 170 and 311.








Legal wise we have a signed contract with Yes miner and Volker Stuider made by Yesminers and our layers. This is only a test order from us and if they perform as promised they will be our generation 4 miners in our farm.
Still if this is a hoax, its pretty damn good one :-)

The second picture has exif data and was taken on 18th AUGUST 2015, 5 months ago. Its perfectly possible they had some test cases made up that early. Taken on a Samsung Galaxy S6 edge so there should be a 16MP version of those photos somewhere.

Few other discussion points:

• Those appear to be the same cases (they're upside down)
• The readout on the display is XXXXX.X which fits and then what looks like MH/s.
• The network switches are detecting 5 devices. Excluding the computer, that makes 2x20TH and 2x10TH being tested which matches up with the hash rate readout..

I mean, if it is a scam then they've at least done better than those in the past. I'll see what else I can find out.