The 2.0 throwdown thread

[poloskarted]

Few corrections with regard to counterparty:

Counterparty absolutely does have a DEX Marketplace (actually to my knowledge, it was the first p2p smart property marketplace)
Counterparty does have voting (in fact the bitcoin foundation 2014 elections were for a while based off CounterParty) see here: https://blockscan.com/vote/A8911401948086144000 http://blog.bitcoinfoundation.org/voting-on-the-blockchain-version-1-0/
And counterparty does have market pegged assets http://counterparty.io/docs/counterparty_features/#currency-peg

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[jwinterm]

Few corrections with regard to counterparty:
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Thanks for the info. I really appreciate the links. I'll update the chart later this evening probably. Does counterparty currently have any operational market Pierre assets atm, or is it just hypothetical for now?

[jwinterm]

Updated a bit, not too much, but converted table over to HTML, so it should be easier to customize and maybe switch to wiki format. Also, linked in OP to actual webpage where links are clickable ( http://myrcraft.com/2p0platformtable.html ).

Still got lots of stuff to fill in, and need to work on my color scheme a bit too I think 

[stoat]

It's transparent what OP is trying to do with his biased silly chart.  Trying to FUD down ethereum, the blockchain which makes those other shitcoins look like a pile of shit.

Sorry ethereum stole your thunder, don't act so butthurt.

[Sebastien256]

That is great work jwinterm!

There are couple of centralized "apps or platforms" using the Nxt blockchain (which write on it, i.e. they are not read-only apps). Maybe put the "Centralized apps utilizing blockchain" at the end of the chart and with another color instead of a green label. Indeed, those are not core features of the blockhain. I would also do the same concerning the decentralized apps since these are done third party.

I made some digging and here a few important one:

Drachmaeconnect
http://www.drachmaeconnect.com/
It use the unique Monetary System core feature of Nxt.

Secure Asset Exchange
http://www.secureae.com/
It allows to invest in Nxt asset with bitcoin in a very very simple manner.

Lyth, the Nxt MMO
http://lythmmo.com/
It plan to use the Nxt platform for it economy.

Nxtty
http://nxtty.com/
It use the nxttycoin of the NXT AE as well as account creation and p2p encryption of Nxt.

Freebieservers.
http://freebieservers.com/
In particular, it use the blockchain to manage account and some transactions on the Nxt network.

If I find something else. I will let you know. Keep up the good work!

Edit:
This one is another decentralized apps runing on top of Nxt:
Helix

http://finhive.com/fh_helix.html
"Helix itself is written as an decentralized app, means it can run signed sourcecode or even code fraqments directly from the NXT blockchain during runtime."

[Sebastien256]

It's transparent what OP is trying to do with his biased silly chart.  Trying to FUD down ethereum, the blockchain which makes those other shitcoins look like a pile of shit.

Sorry ethereum stole your thunder, don't act so butthurt.

Instead of posting non constructive comment. Pease try to post relevant data so that jwinterm can update the chart (concerning ETH)!

[stoat]

Your shitty NXT coin was a failure.  Ethereum has made your coin and your efforts at FUD utterly redundant.

Delete your silly biased charts and quit software development permanently.

[Irontiga]

Your shitty NXT coin was a failure.  Ethereum has made your coin and your efforts at FUD utterly redundant.

Delete your silly biased charts and quit software development permanently.

Wow man, ETH is good..but it's actually just a heavily funded something, which is no better than Burst...or i suppose nxt etc. if you're into the PoS thing.

How can any coin survive today if it consumes that much power from mining? I think any gpu/cpu mining thing is doomed. PoS and HDD mining are the future....no doubt about it.

[stoat]

What is burst even...oh wait that was made redundant by Ethereum too.

[Buratino]

@TopicStarter:
Please add FMA (First Mover Advantage) label or color for each feature in your nice table. Thanks!

[stoat]

"Please add another irrelevant biased field to your pathetic FUD table"

[jwinterm]

Sebastien256, good idea. I'll try to add that this evening.

Buratino...maybe. I'll try and play with the colors some more tonight.

stoat, I added a disclaimer at the bottom of OP saying which coins I own. I have Ethereum probably the least filled out because I know the least about it, but I do own some, and am not trying to discredit it in anyway. If you actually know anything about it, please share, otherwise feel free to keep bumping the thread

[stoat]

Why don't you delete all the fields and just put one field that says [turing complete]. X's next to all those coins and a big green tick next to Ethereum.

Ethereums programming language allows you to implement all those things in that list for far less cost in time and money.

Your coins are deprecated.

[jwinterm]

Why don't you delete all the fields and just put one field that says [turing complete]. X's next to all those coins and a big green tick next to Ethereum.

Ethereums programming language allows you to implement all those things in that list for far less cost in time and money.

Your coins are deprecated.

Didn't you hear that Counterparty recreated ETH on their blockchain?
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/counterparty-recreates-ethereum-bitcoin/

So, I'm pretty sure that's not true, but if you have some supporting info, maybe I'd consider it...

[stoat]

That article seems to be big on press releases and very light on detail. I think the network effect of Ethereum and the Ethereum DAPP ecosystem will render BTC and current Altcoins redundant.

You don't NEED SIDECHAINS in Ethereum so that counterparty press release appears to be complete bollocks.

[sebastien1234]

Hey all, please add Syscoin to this list:

current/total supply: 485million/2 billion
initial distribution: proof-of-work
inflationary/deflationary: Inflationary until 2Billion is reached
Consensus mechanism: proof-of-work
block target time: 60 seconds
recommended time for confirmation: 6 blocks
transaction load: ?
transaction fee costs: varies based on transaction type
founders: Sebastian Schepis, Dan Wasyluk, Jonny Heald, Sebastien DiMichele, Soeren Pedersen, Mike Wheeler
development team: http://syscoin.org/team
automated (turing complete): Currently in development
Atomic (cross-chain): X
Asset creation: Currently in development
Asset exchange: X via Supernet (in development)
Market pegged assets: Currently in development
Encrypted messaging: Yes; All QT wallets allow encrypted messaging.
Blockchain Multisig: currently in development
Marketplace: Yes (designed directly on the blockchain, can currently use via wallet console)
Voting system: currently in development
Privacy features: Like NXT, Syscoin is a superNET coin which will leverage this from the superNET
Decentralized applications: YES: blockmarket, Turing complete will leverage many more.
Centralized Apps: n/a but possible
Plugin / (D)App Store: in development
Unique features: Commands all currently implemented on the blockchain: Marketplace, Aliases, Data store, certificate issuance.

[jwinterm]

That article seems to be big on press releases and very light on detail. I think the network effect of Ethereum and the Ethereum DAPP ecosystem will render BTC and current Altcoins redundant.

You don't NEED SIDECHAINS in Ethereum so that counterparty press release appears to be complete bollocks.

I think some would argue that sidechains are a better solution, as then the mainchain doesn't have to be so humongous, allowing more people to run nodes and increase decentralization.

[jwinterm]

Hey all, please add Syscoin to this list:

current/total supply: 485million/2 billion
initial distribution: proof-of-work
inflationary/deflationary: Inflationary until 2Billion is reached
Consensus mechanism: proof-of-work
block target time: 60 seconds
recommended time for confirmation: 6 blocks
transaction load: ?
transaction fee costs: varies based on transaction type
founders: Sebastian Schepis, Dan Wasyluk, Jonny Heald, Sebastien DiMichele, Soeren Pedersen, Mike Wheeler
development team: http://syscoin.org/team
automated (turing complete): Currently in development
Atomic (cross-chain): X
Asset creation: Currently in development
Asset exchange: X via Supernet (in development)
Market pegged assets: Currently in development
Encrypted messaging: Yes; All QT wallets allow encrypted messaging.
Blockchain Multisig: currently in development
Marketplace: Yes (designed directly on the blockchain, can currently use via wallet console)
Voting system: currently in development
Privacy features: Like NXT, Syscoin is a superNET coin which will leverage this from the superNET
Decentralized applications: YES: blockmarket, Turing complete will leverage many more.
Centralized Apps: n/a but possible
Plugin / (D)App Store: in development
Unique features: Commands all currently implemented on the blockchain: Marketplace, Aliases, Data store, certificate issuance.

Thanks for the run-down. I'll consider it. Another one I saw was NXT Horizon(s?), not sure if it's still in active development though...

[Jean-Luc]

The development of HZ consists of plagiarizing the work of the Nxt developers, even including the changelogs and readme files that I write. With about 6-12 months delay.

[jabo38]

That is great work jwinterm!

There are couple of centralized "apps or platforms" using the Nxt blockchain (which write on it, i.e. they are not read-only apps). Maybe put the "Centralized apps utilizing blockchain" at the end of the chart and with another color instead of a green label. Indeed, those are not core features of the blockhain. I would also do the same concerning the decentralized apps since these are done third party.

I made some digging and here a few important one:

Drachmaeconnect
http://www.drachmaeconnect.com/
It use the unique Monetary System core feature of Nxt.

Secure Asset Exchange
http://www.secureae.com/
It allows to invest in Nxt asset with bitcoin in a very very simple manner.

Lyth, the Nxt MMO
http://lythmmo.com/
It plan to use the Nxt platform for it economy.

Nxtty
http://nxtty.com/
It use the nxttycoin of the NXT AE as well as account creation and p2p encryption of Nxt.

Freebieservers.
http://freebieservers.com/
In particular, it use the blockchain to manage account and some transactions on the Nxt network.

If I find something else. I will let you know. Keep up the good work!

Edit:
This one is another decentralized apps runing on top of Nxt:
Helix

http://finhive.com/fh_helix.html
"Helix itself is written as an decentralized app, means it can run signed sourcecode or even code fraqments directly from the NXT blockchain during runtime."

I like how there were links posted.  I think more claims on this chart need to be backed up with links.  Actually, every single square should have a link I guess.