Suicide

[Sourgummies]

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Create a non-judgmental  haven for people to go to that offers support,medication if needed and at last resort a place to die in a safe comfortable manner.
We would have less people traumatized from seeing people commit suicide and would have a lot less distraught 911 calls that tie up the police. I consider that stance that suicide is wrong to be like the war on drugs,it is not working and its a stale way of thinking.

That's the sort of idealistic dream that when reduced to the ugly reality of a government program, because nothing nice at all.  Soylet Green!  Yah!

That is the problem with suicide,it will always look like some one is leading people to die. Do not think we could put enough safe guards up to make it appear like it was just helping,always going to be a suspicious connection to it. One very vocal group are actually people with physical disabilities,they are afraid for that exact reason you point to.

[Spendulus]

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Create a non-judgmental  haven for people to go to that offers support,medication if needed and at last resort a place to die in a safe comfortable manner.
We would have less people traumatized from seeing people commit suicide and would have a lot less distraught 911 calls that tie up the police. I consider that stance that suicide is wrong to be like the war on drugs,it is not working and its a stale way of thinking.

That's the sort of idealistic dream that when reduced to the ugly reality of a government program, because nothing nice at all.  Soylet Green!  Yah!

That is the problem with suicide,it will always look like some one is leading people to die. Do not think we could put enough safe guards up to make it appear like it was just helping,always going to be a suspicious connection to it. One very vocal group are actually people with physical disabilities,they are afraid for that exact reason you point to.

Safeguards?  Like what?  A procedure manual?

Look at the current controversy about Planned Parenthood and ask, why could they simply not stick to doing unqualified good?

[Sourgummies]

I have no idea what we would have to put in place to appease all groups. Most likely why few Countries want to discuss the topic.

[Spendulus]

I have no idea what we would have to put in place to appease all groups. Most likely why few Countries want to discuss the topic.

Anonymous Internet discussion groups would be my answer.

Exactly what most governments would not like or want.  Oh, and "appease all groups" is total bullshit - that's what's created this sanitized metrosexual politically correct atmosphere which is the problem, not the solution.

[pitham1]

if they want to die that's their problem.
one less human on earth and nobody can blame anyone for that. I'm not complaining.

It is their solution, not their problem. 
Unfortunately, most governments don't think like you.

[Sourgummies]

I have no idea what we would have to put in place to appease all groups. Most likely why few Countries want to discuss the topic.

Anonymous Internet discussion groups would be my answer.

Exactly what most governments would not like or want.  Oh, and "appease all groups" is total bullshit - that's what's created this sanitized metrosexual politically correct atmosphere which is the problem, not the solution.

But needed.  Suicides will continue no matter what fence we sit on. Best to support a humane way out than forcing people to die in such painful ways. Not to mention those that are unsucessful and are forced live a more limited life due to injury.
Metrosexual has nothing to do with suicide.q

[Spendulus]

I have no idea what we would have to put in place to appease all groups. Most likely why few Countries want to discuss the topic.

Anonymous Internet discussion groups would be my answer.

Exactly what most governments would not like or want.  Oh, and "appease all groups" is total bullshit - that's what's created this sanitized metrosexual politically correct atmosphere which is the problem, not the solution.

But needed.  Suicides will continue no matter what fence we sit on. Best to support a humane way out than forcing people to die in such painful ways. Not to mention those that are unsucessful and are forced live a more limited life due to injury.
Metrosexual has nothing to do with suicide.q

Bullshit.  I'll have to advise any of my friends that contemplate suicide to steer clear of any of your "appease all groups" committee decision making crap.

[Sourgummies]

I have no idea what we would have to put in place to appease all groups. Most likely why few Countries want to discuss the topic.

Anonymous Internet discussion groups would be my answer.

Exactly what most governments would not like or want.  Oh, and "appease all groups" is total bullshit - that's what's created this sanitized metrosexual politically correct atmosphere which is the problem, not the solution.

But needed.  Suicides will continue no matter what fence we sit on. Best to support a humane way out than forcing people to die in such painful ways. Not to mention those that are unsucessful and are forced live a more limited life due to injury.
Metrosexual has nothing to do with suicide.q

Bullshit.  I'll have to advise any of my friends that contemplate suicide to steer clear of any of your "appease all groups" committee decision making crap.

You are trolling me and I thought you would be above that .
You asked me to clarify and I did. Then you take a statement and twist it to get off on.
Anyone can see I stated " I have no idea what would appease all groups"! You took this to mean all groups need to be appeased. Its stating it would be near impossible to do. Sad I had to exlain that.

Will bow out of this discussion.

[TECSHARE]

Suicide is illegal because it is a crime to destroy government property.

[freeyourmind]

Santhara is a practice in Jainism where a person voluntarily gives up water and food and waits for death.
An Indian court has ruled that this was akin to suicide and therefore illegal.

http://scroll.in/article/748119/fasting-unto-death-for-religion-is-not-suicide-or-euthanasia-say-outraged-jains

I never understood what legality or policy or government or anyone for that matter has to do with the decision to commit suicide.  Once you choose to check out, who cares if it's against the law?

I find the way society views suicide to be very strange...as if it's the worst outcome and no one in their right mind would ever do it.  There are tons of people with a level of suffering that is difficult for others to understand, and it should absolutely be everyone's right to end their life if they choose to.  What's the point of going into palliative care, being pumped full of opiates, not being able to function mentally or physically and waiting until your heart stops beating?

Let me help you understand this, law has been mad for SUICIDAL ATTEMPT and not just suicide. There are possibilities when a suicidal attempt may fail to complete. This attempt by any person may demoralize or demotivate some weak people in our society to commit the same which means a loss for the country in terms of man power and mind power. This law might inhibit some suicidal attempts.

So you think that because it's against the law, someone considering suicide will come to the conclusion that it's illegal and that will be the reason to not commit suicide?  Similar to the heroin addict that is going to go cold turkey because he found out using heroin is against the law...

If what you're saying actually works, then the countries that were the "toughest on crime" would have the lowest crime rates, and you can see that that is simply not the case.  If you don't address the root cause of why it's happening, then the problem isn't going to be solved, and you can't just stick a law in there to get the job done.

Suicide is illegal because it is a crime to destroy government property.

lol 

[BAGOBO]

Someone might to suicide mostly cause by an environment factor like even his/her family won't help his problem , he/she is atheist,etc

Also suicice cause by religion like terorist, they are ready to explode their self to accomplish their goal

[bojan92]

Suicide, everyone is a human being that can run his life in a way he or she wants. If you don't want to live anymore that do it that is your choice. In the Christianity, a suicide is a very bad thing, a priest won't come if you have committed suicide so you will burn in hell

[Trifixion713]

Suicide is illegal because it is a crime to destroy government property.

HAHAHA!!! That's classic!

[BADecker]

Suicide is illegal because it is a crime to destroy government property.

HAHAHA!!! That's classic!

But if you really want to be lawful about it, all you have to do is get away with it.

 

[otrkid70]

Suicide is illegal because it is a crime to destroy government property.

This is FACT!  They don't wan't you to die because they can't steal any money from a dead person.

[BADecker]

Suicide is illegal because it is a crime to destroy government property.

This is FACT!  They don't wan't you to die because they can't steal any money from a dead person.

Well, actually they can. But only this one last time. With the living, they do it over, and over, and over, ...

[Racey]

Suicide is illegal because it is a crime to destroy government property.

That is so true, government takes out a policy on the day of your birth registration.

If you know of any one who is feeling suicidal, help them by any means to choose life instead.

[BADecker]

Suicide is illegal because it is a crime to destroy government property.

That is so true, government takes out a policy on the day of your birth registration.

If you know of any one who is feeling suicidal, help them by any means to choose life instead.

File a UCC1 Form on your strawman, and take back your property from government.

[pitham1]

Suicide is illegal because it is a crime to destroy government property.

Ha ha. That is an interesting point of view.
If only they allowed you to pay a "fine" and commit suicide, people would really start thinking before attempting such a step.

[blablahblah]

Suicide defies all of Natures basic instinct to survive....

And Nature defies your opinion.
Many species, including humans, have built-in mechanisms for the body to shut down and die in response to extreme pain or fear thereof. I see no evolutionary advantage for any living being to just "give up and die" when that so-called survival instinct could still save it. If anyone has an explanation for how dying of fright could be an evolutionary advantage, I'd like to hear it.

If death occurs prior to any actual blunt trauma or irreversible damage, this suggests some aspects of advanced intelligence, even in small animals with primitive reptilian brains, which flies in the face of idealist beliefs such as "humans are special" or "animals lack our intelligence".

If a small bird gets captured from the wild and it dies of fright, this indicates several things:
-it has the mental capacity to forecast future events, and make an estimate that it's about to get eaten or somehow brutally hurt.
-it has the capacity to extrapolate pain levels that it has never experienced.
-in order to have basic concepts like "getting eaten", the primitive bird brain must therefore have language structures to understand those things.
-it probably has an ego and a subconscious mind that protects it from unmanageable suffering by controlling the physiology of the body. The ego could even participate in deciding how long to fight for survival, and when to bail.

This raises further questions:
Why the heck should a subconscious mind (or just biological programming) inside an intelligent being give a shit about protecting/nurturing some immaterial ego when the entire system is about to crash?
The evidence in nature hints that certain beliefs about reincarnation or rebirth, or some other post-death growth, could be correct. A counter-argument could be that suicide is a completely different thing from survival in the animal kingdom, but I disagree. It's always associated with unmanageable suffering, some forecast that it will continue or get worse, and it's all about protecting the ego. "Taking action" to manage your own death is completely natural, given that we naturally evolved these large brains that decide to do weird things.