OLD FLY THREAD

[vegasguy]

So I really enjoy bringing exciting new features that are coming, and think this one will blow your mind!!!!

Keesdewit (Our lead dev if your new here), and I have been brainstorming for you guys all morning. What we have been trying to do is this:

As many of you know we have always wanted lower withdrawal fees for buyers, and high tx fees 10% to sellers or outbound to exchanges. So Keesdewit and I were talking to Cutopia all morning, and they are wonderful, and they also said , it could not be done.

So....

We are both throwing out ideas. Finally I said to Keesdewit "Is it possible to add everyone listed on the richlist, and exempt them based on their wallet address"? He said "Yes".

So what this means is , there is going to be VERY low withdrawl fees from exchanges for ONLY very select people that have verified Bitcointalk user names, and not ones created a month ago, AND have claimed their name on the richlist. You must also hold 100 FLY in your balance to be included, and NEVER make any sells using your main wallet, only sell from POS.

This will make YOUR wallet VERY unique..

heres why..

If you hold one of these "FLY LOW" wallets, then you can buy from Cryptopia at a flat rate of .002 AND you can sell (using your savings from POS) at .002

If you dont hold one of the fly low wallets, you will certainly pay 10% withdrawal fees and youll probably not be serious about fly and send it directly to the exchange without using savings. So you would be paying 10% to ride both ways to fund the little guys on the bottom. Because there will be only a tiny amount of "FLY low" wallets, the superfly wallet will grow MASSIVE , and FAST as now with this system there will be many more people paying 10% each way, and that ALL goes to superfly to stake for you guys!!

Gawd I LOVE crypto!

Vegas

[GoldTiger69]

I think there is a problem with the new wallet.

I opened an account in Cryptopia and changed my savings account on my wallet to the address at Cryptopia.

On 11/14/15 12:25, my main wallet minted 0.21170556 FLY and automatically sent that amount to the address on Cryptopia; this is the transaction ID: bae2914f0b6acee42508a7c4e6e5312c53491592cbaec8b81dafae90f2879884

I also sent some FLY from my original savings wallet to Cryptopia and those coins arrived well to my address there, so that's working ok.

It's been more than 26 hours now and the coins from minting haven't arrive to Cryptopia yet.

I'm not sure if we have an Explorer now, since presstab's ain't working anymore.

Thanks in advance

[vegasguy]

New explorer is on OP. I would contact Cryptopia about missing funds.

Vegas

[GoldTiger69]

Thanks Vegas.

I'm checking the new explorer and I notice that in the history of my main wallet, the outputs are mark as red zeros, instead of displaying the amount that went out (just an observation).

And I just noticed that another 2 transactions have been sent to Cryptopia and those haven't showed up yet. (one have only 38 confirmations, maybe that's why).

Maybe Cryptopia has a problem receiving the coins minted from main wallets?

[vegasguy]

Thanks Vegas.

I'm checking the new explorer and I notice that in the history of my main wallet, the outputs are mark as red zeros, instead of displaying the amount that went out (just an observation).

And I just noticed that another 2 transactions have been sent to Cryptopia and those haven't showed up yet. (one have only 38 confirmations, maybe that's why).

Maybe Cryptopia has a problem receiving the coins minted from main wallets?

The only information I can give you on this is, when Cryptopia accepted our wallet, I DID give them the correct source. I gave them the link twice. But they downloaded the wrong version anyway. I caught it quick, BUT devs were not available and I tried for hours to reach them. Finally after a few hours they corrected it. So this is probably what happened. I would reach out to them again and explain that you were one of the ones that uploaded coins very early when they listed us and Crytopia was on wrong wallet version.

Vegas

[GoldTiger69]

Thanks again Vegas, but still there is something wrong because my wallet sent two more transactions today (11/15/15 06:37 and 11/15/15 11:43) and haven't arrived yet. So maybe they are still using the wrong source.

This are the transactions ID of the above:
3cdccbc1e332e466140fd3a49a9f54fa1563fd6592b72ce0017fa7c46643c147
28121b965c6618b033375235bf5e25624c96fe9c5dd36b7053891f03a4595d00

[vegasguy]

Thanks again Vegas, but still there is something wrong because my wallet sent two more transactions today (11/15/15 06:37 and 11/15/15 11:43) and haven't arrived yet. So maybe they are still using the wrong source.

This are the transactions ID of the above:
3cdccbc1e332e466140fd3a49a9f54fa1563fd6592b72ce0017fa7c46643c147
28121b965c6618b033375235bf5e25624c96fe9c5dd36b7053891f03a4595d00

Ok.. let me send some and make sure it working. So for now dont send anymore. Also make sure your wallet is 1.6.2 from OP.

I will report back in about an hour. Its long confirm times. Remember fly has 5 minute block times, but usually longer.

So I just sent .2 fly to cryptopia. My tx is 5c11dd6156605c5a8d57198314650034fe63219ef9845561c3d2083441eaf1f5-000

I dont think its Crytopia..heres why.. they have fly listed on their exchange, so that proves people are able to send fly there.

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange?market=FLY_BTC

Lets see what happens.

Vegas

[GoldTiger69]

Thank you, and yes, my wallet is the 1.6.2 from OP.

Now, like I said: sending coins from the wallet works fine; the stuck coins are those minted from my main wallet and sent automatically to Cryptopia as I changed my savings address to the address of deposits there.

In other words: My savings address is now the deposit address from Cryptopia; my main wallet have sent 3 transactions to  my savings address (Cryptopia's deposit address) and they are not received yet.

I hope that makes it clear now

[vegasguy]

Thank you, and yes, my wallet is the 1.6.2 from OP.

Now, like I said: sending coins from the wallet works fine; the stuck coins are those minted from my main wallet and sent automatically to Cryptopia as I changed my savings address to the address of deposits there.

ok thank you for telling me that. It shouldnt make a difference. But Ill point my savings to cryptopia and see what happends.

Vegas

[GoldTiger69]

Thank you, and yes, my wallet is the 1.6.2 from OP.

Now, like I said: sending coins from the wallet works fine; the stuck coins are those minted from my main wallet and sent automatically to Cryptopia as I changed my savings address to the address of deposits there.

ok thank you for telling me that. It shouldnt make a difference. But Ill point my savings to cryptopia and see what happends.

Vegas

Thanks Vegas. It's all new for us, so this kind of things will happen.

[Cryptco]

FLY Presstab.pw block explorer is DOWN /OFFLINE

 http://www.presstab.pw/phpexplorer/FLY/index.php

[metamorphin]

FLY Presstab.pw block explorer is DOWN /OFFLINE

 http://www.presstab.pw/phpexplorer/FLY/index.php

We got newer one:

http://fly.dnsalias.com/

[TimC]

Thank you, and yes, my wallet is the 1.6.2 from OP.

Now, like I said: sending coins from the wallet works fine; the stuck coins are those minted from my main wallet and sent automatically to Cryptopia as I changed my savings address to the address of deposits there.

ok thank you for telling me that. It shouldnt make a difference. But Ill point my savings to cryptopia and see what happends.

Vegas

You also got to remember that it only takes 10 confirms to send a coin but when you stake it take 70 confirms. You just may need to wait until the block matures.

[catotune]

Thank you, and yes, my wallet is the 1.6.2 from OP.

Now, like I said: sending coins from the wallet works fine; the stuck coins are those minted from my main wallet and sent automatically to Cryptopia as I changed my savings address to the address of deposits there.

In other words: My savings address is now the deposit address from Cryptopia; my main wallet have sent 3 transactions to  my savings address (Cryptopia's deposit address) and they are not received yet.

I hope that makes it clear now

I think exchanges might not receive transactions correctly that are automatically sent from staking - if you read back a few pages, I'm pretty sure that someone warns against setting your savings address to Yobit.

I know that when I had set my savings address to my Yobit deposit address, my transactions never showed up there. Total bummer, I know 

[catotune]

I finally set up a catotune Twitter account - nothing like a Super FLY reward as incentive to get this cat involved in social media! 

My FLY tweet contribution:
https://twitter.com/catotune/status/666048003346575361

Let's keep FLY awesome and positive going forward.

[GoldTiger69]

Thank you, and yes, my wallet is the 1.6.2 from OP.

Now, like I said: sending coins from the wallet works fine; the stuck coins are those minted from my main wallet and sent automatically to Cryptopia as I changed my savings address to the address of deposits there.

In other words: My savings address is now the deposit address from Cryptopia; my main wallet have sent 3 transactions to  my savings address (Cryptopia's deposit address) and they are not received yet.

I hope that makes it clear now

I think exchanges might not receive transactions correctly that are automatically sent from staking - if you read back a few pages, I'm pretty sure that someone warns against setting your savings address to Yobit.

I know that when I had set my savings address to my Yobit deposit address, my transactions never showed up there. Total bummer, I know 

Yep, that's true, but if we don't do that, then we need to pay 10% fee just to send the coins to the exchange, and that's no good. So, I think it should be ok to put the exchange address as the savings address, otherwise, how can we trade the POS coins?

[catotune]

Thank you, and yes, my wallet is the 1.6.2 from OP.

Now, like I said: sending coins from the wallet works fine; the stuck coins are those minted from my main wallet and sent automatically to Cryptopia as I changed my savings address to the address of deposits there.

In other words: My savings address is now the deposit address from Cryptopia; my main wallet have sent 3 transactions to  my savings address (Cryptopia's deposit address) and they are not received yet.

I hope that makes it clear now

I think exchanges might not receive transactions correctly that are automatically sent from staking - if you read back a few pages, I'm pretty sure that someone warns against setting your savings address to Yobit.

I know that when I had set my savings address to my Yobit deposit address, my transactions never showed up there. Total bummer, I know 

Yep, that's true, but if we don't do that, then we need to pay 10% fee just to send the coins to the exchange, and that's no good. So, I think it should be ok to put the exchange address as the savings address, otherwise, how can we trade the POS coins?

I totally agree - and that's why I initially set my savings address to my Yobit deposit. But there must be something technically different about a transaction that results from a stake to savings vs. a regular "sendtoaddress" transaction. For some reason the exchanges don't recognize the former - maybe someone more knowledgeable about the wallet code can enlighten us?

At any rate, it sounds like vegas's new plan for waiving high tx fees for verified richlist addresses might satisfy our concerns when it is implemented.

[metamorphin]

Dear Flycoinfans,

we decided to announce following advice:

Please dont use exchangeaddress as ur savingaddress so long till we can be sure, we done it right!

Please don't use exchangeaddress as ur savingsaddress!

Meta

[GIminer]

Ok, I'm not a social media person:

https://twitter.com/giminer1/status/666062503491805184

I did in Spanish, I guess you have the English tweets pretty covered 

[vegasguy]

So there certainly is a problem with staking directly to exchanges. Im not exactly sure why yet. We THINK its a problem only with Crytopia, as nobody has said it does not work with Yobit. A fix will be implemented in the next wallet release. For now since the fees are low, continue to stake to savings, then send from your savings address using coin control. You will NOT be charged 10% as those fees are not active until the next wallet update which will include a fix for this.

Vegas