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October 05, 2012, 04:59:57 PM
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Here is a recently completed auction of the Essemtec reflow oven pictured.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ESSEMTEC-RO300FC-REFLOW-OVEN-/320989507198?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4abc772e7e

Is there any way BFL could prove they won the auction?

Who has an account on ebay? Someone could ask who was the buyer.
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October 05, 2012, 05:20:53 PM
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This machine was also on sale?  http://www.sendec-cem.com/electronics-manufacturing-services/facility-and-equipment/172-mydata-my9
It is easy to check.
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October 05, 2012, 05:30:22 PM
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How despicable! I have never in my life heard of a company reusing images without permission on the Internet! The horror!

I'm just going to keep repeating "it's an Altera HardCopy" because I haven't the slightest clue what I'm talking about.
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October 05, 2012, 05:36:27 PM
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It would be great to see photos of these devices actually in the hands of BFL and producing ASICs.  Hopefully that's what we'll see at least during/after the site-visit that they're setting up.
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October 05, 2012, 05:58:06 PM
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It would be great to see photos of these devices actually in the hands of BFL and producing ASICs.  Hopefully that's what we'll see at least during/after the site-visit that they're setting up.

I agree. It would be great. Now only fake images, same empty promises and no proof of their work.  They know how to attract customers and destroy the competitors, I hope they do as good hardware.
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October 05, 2012, 07:55:26 PM
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It would be great to see photos of these devices actually in the hands of BFL and producing ASICs.  Hopefully that's what we'll see at least during/after the site-visit that they're setting up.

I agree. It would be great. Now only fake images, same empty promises and no proof of their work.  They know how to attract customers and destroy the competitors, I hope they do as good hardware.

if they really have these devices,why not took a picture with their own camera,I can't understand that
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October 05, 2012, 07:58:20 PM
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Because they're in transit. The announcement was made after our purchase. Once the machines are fully installed, we'll be happy to flood you with photos and assembly videos

let's see
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October 05, 2012, 08:38:16 PM
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Very convenient.  My concern level went from yellow to orange again.

Screenshot of paypal invoice with sensitive data removed would prove it.
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October 05, 2012, 08:56:27 PM
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Here is a recently completed auction of the Essemtec reflow oven pictured.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ESSEMTEC-RO300FC-REFLOW-OVEN-/320989507198?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4abc772e7e

Is there any way BFL could prove they won the auction?

Who has an account on ebay? Someone could ask who was the buyer.
I sent a message to the seller, linking him to the announcement, pointing out the image, and mentioning the skepticism surrounding BFL.  I asked if the machine was being shipped to somewhere in the Kansas City area.  

Everything still checks out as the auction was won Sept. 28 and it is reasonable for it to still be in transit.

Oct. 8 EDIT: I received confirmation from the ebay seller that the reflow oven was bought by BF Labs.  The seller asked BFL's permission first before confirming them as the buyer.

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October 05, 2012, 08:58:25 PM
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Do
{
Discover proof against BFL
Forget about it and hope they delivery
Sleep(3600*24*10)
}
While (!delivered)

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October 05, 2012, 09:24:14 PM
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Here is a recently completed auction of the Essemtec reflow oven pictured.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ESSEMTEC-RO300FC-REFLOW-OVEN-/320989507198?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4abc772e7e

Is there any way BFL could prove they won the auction?

Who has an account on ebay? Someone could ask who was the buyer.
I sent a message to the seller, linking him to the announcement, pointing out the image, and mentioning the skepticism surrounding BFL.  I asked if the machine was being shipped to somewhere in the Kansas City area. 

Everything still checks out as the auction was won Sept. 28 and it is reasonable for it to still be in transit.

I did the same Smiley
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October 05, 2012, 09:29:20 PM
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You guys come up with something new every other day on how BFL is scamming us. Get some proof or GTFO. If you went around doing this in the real world, you'd be sued for slander in a second.

I hope BFL sues you guys for defamation, then maybe some of you will think twice before posting BS without any proof.
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October 05, 2012, 10:29:18 PM
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You guys come up with something new every other day on how BFL is scamming us. Get some proof or GTFO. If you went around doing this in the real world, you'd be sued for slander in a second.

I hope BFL sues you guys for defamation, then maybe some of you will think twice before posting BS without any proof.

That's not the point. I'm not looking for evidence that they are scammers. They discredit themselves. Do you expect that there will be no one responded to their suspicious behavior?Huh Nobody remembers the Pirate??? Too much scams there is in the world and the people are too naive. Companies should themselves take care of  credibility. BFL has published a proud announcement with "stolen" photos from the web. This is suspicious behavior so it is our reaction. We just want to explanations.
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October 05, 2012, 10:40:41 PM
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You guys come up with something new every other day on how BFL is scamming us. Get some proof or GTFO. If you went around doing this in the real world, you'd be sued for slander in a second.

I hope BFL sues you guys for defamation, then maybe some of you will think twice before posting BS without any proof.

Hmm it seems common practice around here to ask for pictures of items in the for sale section. If they repost pics, they often get called scammers. Why should bfl be held to a different standard?
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October 05, 2012, 10:41:36 PM
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Ummm, BFL isn't selling the items?

If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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October 05, 2012, 11:09:20 PM
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Ummm, BFL isn't selling the items?


my point exactly bfl isn't selling anything
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October 05, 2012, 11:16:55 PM
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Ummm, BFL isn't selling the items?


Inaba, what's the best way to reach someone at BFL about order upgrade? I emailed earlier today and haven't got a reply yet. 
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October 05, 2012, 11:19:33 PM
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Email office@butterflylabs.com.  We get hundreds of emails per day, sometimes I can take awhile to get to yours if it's been a particularly heavy day. 

(Yes, we get ~400 emails per day on average, sometimes much more than that)


If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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October 05, 2012, 11:27:49 PM
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If this really were a scam  and they got away with it, it would be one of the most genius and elaborate scams ever conducted on the internet. They pretend to be a real business and sell real products only to, more than a year later, take a bunch of money and run even though they are allowing bank wires for payment. Maybe the three other competitors are also in it. They even got Inaba in it. This is just false flag 9/11 all over again.

These people have already confirmed they are a legitimate business for a long time. Many of the scam conspiracy theories have been debunked over and over. There is zero evidence that this is a scam. If you really think it's a scam then just don't order. It's pretty simple. There's no reason to spam every single BFL thread with your nonsense.

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October 05, 2012, 11:44:59 PM
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Email office@butterflylabs.com.  We get hundreds of emails per day, sometimes I can take awhile to get to yours if it's been a particularly heavy day.  

(Yes, we get ~400 emails per day on average, sometimes much more than that)



Thanks. That's the address I emailed, going to wait for reply, hoping there isn't going to be a serious backlog for you guys sorting through all of them

PS an upgrade order form would of been nice  Cheesy
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