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September 09, 2015, 08:33:15 AM
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Ding ding
Suprnova is offline  Undecided

time to solo mine Smiley
Back online..

But IMHO, Solo is really better for Shift


I'm solo mining with SHF. I get like 30 coins a day now with each GPU card. That would make the price of these coins 0.00073333 BTC each. This coin is under valued. I better buy some more.




Ewww, price isn't that great. I leave for the day and it's 1/3 the value.....Hope this recovers, lucky I switch back to ETH mining in the morning...Had a feeling something with the price was going to get affected....

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September 09, 2015, 08:50:53 AM
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Should we talk about the price? Many miners have made alot of profit on Shift so far. And when they dump constantly since the beginning you are wondering why the price is low? Many mnay people have had profits EXCEPT the Shift team.. there is zero profit. And you talk about greed? How are we greedy? Fartbags is changeing opinion about shift everytime he buys and sells.. and now you want us to do better so that you can earn more money? We have a different view.. we dont sell.. we want to build something good with shift.

This will be the last message in a while since we will get back working on shift.. coding. Do not have the time to answer this stuff.
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September 09, 2015, 09:01:00 AM
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Should we talk about the price? Many miners have made alot of profit on Shift so far. And when they dump constantly since the beginning you are wondering why the price is low? Many mnay people have had profits EXCEPT the Shift team.. there is zero profit. And you talk about greed? How are we greedy? Fartbags is changeing opinion about shift everytime he buys and sells.. and now you want us to do better so that you can earn more money? We have a different view.. we dont sell.. we want to build something good with shift.

This will be the last message in a while since we will get back working on shift.. coding. Do not have the time to answer this stuff.

nothing alarming

Total SHIFT mined : ~97k
Total SHIFT dumped on bittrex : ~45k
 

classic and healthy  distribution.

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September 09, 2015, 09:03:48 AM
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Should we talk about the price? Many miners have made alot of profit on Shift so far. And when they dump constantly since the beginning you are wondering why the price is low? Many mnay people have had profits EXCEPT the Shift team.. there is zero profit. And you talk about greed? How are we greedy? Fartbags is changeing opinion about shift everytime he buys and sells.. and now you want us to do better so that you can earn more money? We have a different view.. we dont sell.. we want to build something good with shift.

This will be the last message in a while since we will get back working on shift.. coding. Do not have the time to answer this stuff.

I didn't dump any of the coins I mined. But I do have to pay this wondering PG&E rate in the state of California, I say that in a sarcastic way. lol

I don't mind mining SHF, cryptos are a hobby for me, but I have to at least pay the electric bill and what ever left I can hold as an investment....

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September 09, 2015, 09:58:11 AM
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Should we talk about the price? Many miners have made alot of profit on Shift so far. And when they dump constantly since the beginning you are wondering why the price is low? Many mnay people have had profits EXCEPT the Shift team.. there is zero profit. And you talk about greed? How are we greedy? Fartbags is changeing opinion about shift everytime he buys and sells.. and now you want us to do better so that you can earn more money? We have a different view.. we dont sell.. we want to build something good with shift.

This will be the last message in a while since we will get back working on shift.. coding. Do not have the time to answer this stuff.

nothing alarming

Total SHIFT mined : ~97k
Total SHIFT dumped on bittrex : ~45k
 

classic and healthy  distribution.



Indeed. If it hurts when miners have to pay electric bills then they should perhaps not mine anymore and let us who want to contribute keep mining in peace and not have to listen to their complaints of the inevitable pricedrop. Pow will always be pow. The days of getting rich on gpu mining is over and will probably never come again. I mine at a loss but I don't complain like a baby about it.
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September 09, 2015, 10:11:00 AM
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I got 0.27 shift from 24h of mining or something, so don't you talk about taking a loss. I'm sick and tired of this coin.

Dev, I believe in you, you can do it. I just don't believe in the price. I dumped everything (Yeah, the megadump to 8k was me) so i'm really megarekt right now. Don't know how I will survive this loss, had so much faith in it.

And to the guys laughing at me: you're a bunch of assholes. Laughing at other people's misery  Cry

And ocminer: please fix your pool the next time so we can all have a shot with our normal rigs...

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September 09, 2015, 10:17:19 AM
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I got 0.27 shift from 24h of mining or something, so don't you talk about taking a loss. I'm sick and tired of this coin.

Dev, I believe in you, you can do it. I just don't believe in the price. I dumped everything (Yeah, the megadump to 8k was me) so i'm really megarekt right now. Don't know how I will survive this loss, had so much faith in it.

And to the guys laughing at me: you're a bunch of assholes. Laughing at other people's misery  Cry

And ocminer: please fix your pool the next time so we can all have a shot with our normal rigs...



I'm sorry but how should I fix my pool to hash a Dagger coin with Scrypt rigs ?! You'd either have to run and mine on a multipool, or you'd have to rework ETH/SHIFT to allow Scrypt mining too, which surely won't happen ...

I'm not sure if you understand that there are coins with different Hashalgos... You have DASH for example with X11.. You cannot mine DASH with Scrypt Rigs, unlike Litecoin, which you CAN mine with Scrypt, but you cannot mine Litecoin with X11 Rigs etc..

It's like with cars.. You cannot fill Diesel fuel into a Gasoline Driven car... But you also cannot tell Mercedes to "fix their car" when you filled Diesel in a Gasoline car...

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September 09, 2015, 10:27:05 AM
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I got 0.27 shift from 24h of mining or something, so don't you talk about taking a loss. I'm sick and tired of this coin.

Dev, I believe in you, you can do it. I just don't believe in the price. I dumped everything (Yeah, the megadump to 8k was me) so i'm really megarekt right now. Don't know how I will survive this loss, had so much faith in it.

And to the guys laughing at me: you're a bunch of assholes. Laughing at other people's misery  Cry

And ocminer: please fix your pool the next time so we can all have a shot with our normal rigs...



I'm sorry but how should I fix my pool to hash a Dagger coin with Scrypt rigs ?! You'd either have to run and mine on a multipool, or you'd have to rework ETH/SHIFT to allow Scrypt mining too, which surely won't happen ...

I'm not sure if you understand that there are coins with different Hashalgos... You have DASH for example with X11.. You cannot mine DASH with Scrypt Rigs, unlike Litecoin, which you CAN mine with Scrypt, but you cannot mine Litecoin with X11 Rigs etc..

It's like with cars.. You cannot fill Diesel fuel into a Gasoline Driven car... But you also cannot tell Mercedes to "fix their car" when you filled Diesel in a Gasoline car...

I was solo mining SHF yesterday and got like 60 coins with 3x HD 7970/280x, so one card does about 5 to 7 blocks in my scenario. Unless you are mining with a weak GCN card or AMD APU or weak Nvidia card and/or just have the setup poorly done, you should be getting a decent number of blocks.

Here a guide that I made a while back that I think simplify the process a bit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1155284.msg12306597#msg12306597

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I'm sorry but how should I fix my pool to hash a Dagger coin with Scrypt rigs ?! You'd either have to run and mine on a multipool, or you'd have to rework ETH/SHIFT to allow Scrypt mining too, which surely won't happen ...

I'm not sure if you understand that there are coins with different Hashalgos... You have DASH for example with X11.. You cannot mine DASH with Scrypt Rigs, unlike Litecoin, which you CAN mine with Scrypt, but you cannot mine Litecoin with X11 Rigs etc..

It's like with cars.. You cannot fill Diesel fuel into a Gasoline Driven car... But you also cannot tell Mercedes to "fix their car" when you filled Diesel in a Gasoline car...


I don't really care about the technical details there mate, just make sure your pools work in the future.

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I'm sorry but how should I fix my pool to hash a Dagger coin with Scrypt rigs ?! You'd either have to run and mine on a multipool, or you'd have to rework ETH/SHIFT to allow Scrypt mining too, which surely won't happen ...

I'm not sure if you understand that there are coins with different Hashalgos... You have DASH for example with X11.. You cannot mine DASH with Scrypt Rigs, unlike Litecoin, which you CAN mine with Scrypt, but you cannot mine Litecoin with X11 Rigs etc..

It's like with cars.. You cannot fill Diesel fuel into a Gasoline Driven car... But you also cannot tell Mercedes to "fix their car" when you filled Diesel in a Gasoline car...


I don't really care about the technical details there mate, just make sure your pools work in the future.

@SpeedDemon13: Thanks, really appreciate it!

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    For CUDA: --cuda-grid-size 8192 --cuda-block-size 128 --cuda-turbo

I gained about 1 to 2 MHS per HD 7970, 3x HD 7970 did 68 MHS before I add the OpenCL string. Now I'm doing 72 MHS with the 3 cards.

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I'm sorry but how should I fix my pool to hash a Dagger coin with Scrypt rigs ?! You'd either have to run and mine on a multipool, or you'd have to rework ETH/SHIFT to allow Scrypt mining too, which surely won't happen ...

I'm not sure if you understand that there are coins with different Hashalgos... You have DASH for example with X11.. You cannot mine DASH with Scrypt Rigs, unlike Litecoin, which you CAN mine with Scrypt, but you cannot mine Litecoin with X11 Rigs etc..

It's like with cars.. You cannot fill Diesel fuel into a Gasoline Driven car... But you also cannot tell Mercedes to "fix their car" when you filled Diesel in a Gasoline car...


I don't really care about the technical details there mate, just make sure your pools work in the future.

@SpeedDemon13: Thanks, really appreciate it!

My pools DO work - they ALWAYS work - but they will never work if you are hashing with the wrong algo ...

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I'm sorry but how should I fix my pool to hash a Dagger coin with Scrypt rigs ?! You'd either have to run and mine on a multipool, or you'd have to rework ETH/SHIFT to allow Scrypt mining too, which surely won't happen ...

I'm not sure if you understand that there are coins with different Hashalgos... You have DASH for example with X11.. You cannot mine DASH with Scrypt Rigs, unlike Litecoin, which you CAN mine with Scrypt, but you cannot mine Litecoin with X11 Rigs etc..

It's like with cars.. You cannot fill Diesel fuel into a Gasoline Driven car... But you also cannot tell Mercedes to "fix their car" when you filled Diesel in a Gasoline car...


I don't really care about the technical details there mate, just make sure your pools work in the future.

@SpeedDemon13: Thanks, really appreciate it!

My pools DO work - they ALWAYS work - but they will never work if you are hashing with the wrong algo ...

Not always work, mostly work and nearly always....lol......Every pool owner has had a couple issues then and now.....But your pools are one of the best in cryptos...Less down times and you've reimburse miners when you didn't need too....

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September 09, 2015, 11:47:56 AM
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Quote from EXP thread

Let's compare:

Expanse, 11,000,000 premine with 1,100,000 available immediately. Block target 1 minute and 8 EXP block reward. 4,207,680 EXP mined per year. Time to match premine = 2 years, 7 1/2 months

Ethereum, 72,000,000 premine to prerelease investors, devs, contributors, and their foundation. Block target 15 seconds and 5 Ether block reward. 10,519,200 Ether mined (and staked in future) per year. Time to match premine = 6 years 10 months

Shift, 250,000 premine. Block target 12 seconds (in theory, its first post says average blocktime is higher) and 3 SHF block reward. 7,889,400 (theoretical) mined (or staked in future) per year. Time to match premine = 12 days.

Edit: Shift target is 11 seconds, so math is slightly off, but you get the picture.

In my opinion, SHIFT is way underpriced right now.

The problem is that some info is missing on CMC. A good block explorer is essential and should be #1 priority, so that the needed info is provided, and then people can compare it to other coins.
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/shift/#charts

Also, keeping SHIFT as the ticker would be a better brand than SHF.

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Quote from EXP thread

Let's compare:

Expanse, 11,000,000 premine with 1,100,000 available immediately. Block target 1 minute and 8 EXP block reward. 4,207,680 EXP mined per year. Time to match premine = 2 years, 7 1/2 months

Ethereum, 72,000,000 premine to prerelease investors, devs, contributors, and their foundation. Block target 15 seconds and 5 Ether block reward. 10,519,200 Ether mined (and staked in future) per year. Time to match premine = 6 years 10 months

Shift, 250,000 premine. Block target 12 seconds (in theory, its first post says average blocktime is higher) and 3 SHF block reward. 7,889,400 (theoretical) mined (or staked in future) per year. Time to match premine = 12 days.

Edit: Shift target is 11 seconds, so math is slightly off, but you get the picture.

In my opinion, SHIFT is way underpriced right now.

The problem is that some info is missing on CMC. A good block explorer is essential and should be #1 priority, so that the needed info is provided, and then people can compare it to other coins.
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/shift/#charts

Also, keeping SHIFT as the ticker would be a better brand than SHF.

Agree with you fully. I will talk to the rest of the team about SHIFT as ticker. Block explorer is in the pipe for sure.
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September 09, 2015, 12:17:19 PM
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The problem is that some info is missing on CMC. A good block explorer is essential and should be #1 priority, so that the needed info is provided, and then people can compare it to other coins.
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/shift/#charts
Oh, still not? Wink   Yes, CMC still seems unknowing about the total coins ...

I thought when you didn't answer my PM that you had
already found someone more competent than me to do this.

... share the bounty with developers.

Another advantage of that strategy is ... that you have the chance to get good people ...
... not only interested, but investing themselves into your coin. Not with boring money,
but with their work = something that can connect people much more.

Sharing is caring. Sharing means growing.

Can you please do us a favor and not be stupid. Assign a bounty to the block explorer. Share the premine
...
I would be fine with giving someone 2% of the premine = 4000 SHF, if they are going to build a world class block explorer.
...
Not liking the tone *g* but agreeing with the message.

As you know ...

I offered my help with the existing block explorer:


B.E.extension --> Supply --> CMC --> ranking page
...Your B.E. can be extended to return the /blockheight & /supply & /supply/public;
then telling CMC ... then SHF would be visible in the ranking on the main table of CMC.
If you want to spend some of your funds, I can work on extending Whit's block explorer code,
to include that information. PM me.

It would NOT be a "world class block explorer", just an extension of the existing one.
--> very reachable goal, and very soon online

And as soon as that one is online, CMC could know about the supply total.

And the coin would suddenly appear on the main table of CMC.

There would be time to build a "world class block explorer" later,
whenever your time allows it. Or you spend another bounty,
and someone else builds the 2nd block explorer.

Good coins have several block explorers anyways.
Different views on the same data = useful.
If one is going down, the other one is likely still online, etc.


But perhaps you want to do everything yourself?
That is also understandable. Then perhaps a roadmap would help,
which calms down the community to a slower pace.

Because good work needs time. No need to hurry crazily.

If we want to build a lasting currency and a platform we have to prio and not throw shf around like some lady on a shopping spree.
Very understandable, compared to the huge-premine alternatives, SHIFT has started itself with an almost modest premine, so you need to spend it wisely.

But what do you want to spend it on, but paying yourselves, and paying interesting, and helpful people with it?

my 2 wei

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September 09, 2015, 12:24:25 PM
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The problem is that some info is missing on CMC. A good block explorer is essential and should be #1 priority, so that the needed info is provided, and then people can compare it to other coins.
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/shift/#charts
Oh, still not? Wink   Yes, CMC still seems unknowing about the total coins ...

I thought when you didn't answer my PM that you had
already found someone more competent than me to do this.

... share the bounty with developers.

Another advantage of that strategy is ... that you have the chance to get good people ...
... not only interested, but investing themselves into your coin. Not with boring money,
but with their work = something that can connect people much more.

Sharing is caring. Sharing means growing.

Can you please do us a favor and not be stupid. Assign a bounty to the block explorer. Share the premine
...
I would be fine with giving someone 2% of the premine = 4000 SHF, if they are going to build a world class block explorer.
...
Not liking the tone *g* but agreeing with the message.

As you know ...

I offered my help with the existing block explorer:


B.E.extension --> Supply --> CMC --> ranking page
...Your B.E. can be extended to return the /blockheight & /supply & /supply/public;
then telling CMC ... then SHF would be visible in the ranking on the main table of CMC.
If you want to spend some of your funds, I can work on extending Whit's block explorer code,
to include that information. PM me.

It would NOT be a "world class block explorer", just an extension of the existing one.
--> very reachable goal, and very soon online

And as soon as that one is online, CMC could know about the supply total.

And the coin would suddenly appear on the main table of CMC.

There would be time to build a "world class block explorer" later,
whenever your time allows it. Or you spend another bounty,
and someone else builds the 2nd block explorer.

Good coins have several block explorers anyways.
Different views on the same data = useful.
If one is going down, the other one is likely still online, etc.


But perhaps you want to do everything yourself?
That is also understandable. Then perhaps a roadmap would help,
which calms down the community to a slower pace.

Because good work needs time. No need to hurry crazily.

If we want to build a lasting currency and a platform we have to prio and not throw shf around like some lady on a shopping spree.
Very understandable, compared to the huge-premine alternatives, SHIFT has started itself with an almost modest premine, so you need to spend it wisely.

But what do you want to spend it on, but paying yourselves, and paying interesting, and helpful people with it?

my 2 wei

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Can you PM me please?

Thanks Smiley

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September 09, 2015, 01:34:26 PM
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Shift is most likely going to gain traction over time, this is not a short term coin has some of the people expected to be, so sit back collect your coins and support the dev team.


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September 09, 2015, 01:42:45 PM
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The price doesn't stop falling :\

I'm just waiting for the best time to buy some!
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September 09, 2015, 01:47:05 PM
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The price doesn't stop falling :\

I'm just waiting for the best time to buy some!

most likely 10k would be the next fall or under a large % of miners are dumping daily payouts.


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September 09, 2015, 01:50:05 PM
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The price doesn't stop falling :\

I'm just waiting for the best time to buy some!

most likely 10k would be the next fall or under a large % of miners are dumping daily payouts.

Mmmm, anyone selling at a stable price, i would try and pick some up at the market around there then.


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