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June 07, 2017, 05:32:24 PM
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Winning mentality of Real Madrid was one of the key factors for winning championship. Many will disagree with me but I have seen that many times. Also I would agree with `sergio red`, Zidan is doing great job as a coach, He surely can find a way to motivate and compose team. We can see that as we compare Real in first and in second half. They define a strategy for second half and they did it well. Juve players helped them, also totally different team in second half. Second goal for Madrid was lucky shot, third came very fast, from that moment Juves game totally collapsed. They looked to me like a strong solid team during a season. Only three goals in their net and four in one game...

Cristiano Ronaldo is definitely the most ambitious football player ever. He always wants more. Most players become too complacent when they are rich, or maybe when they finally get golden boot and golden globe awards. He is on a mission to have the highest award count ever, and break all records. He has all cups, now he is just missing the world cup. I hope we can see Portugal win 1 world cup with Ronaldo before he retires.

He is a very competitive player and success has shown the entire world that hard work and dedication towards a goal will always accomplish it, he set his mind on becoming a world class player and he's been rated with Kaka, Ronaldinho and now Messi, if you see the timeline of these comparison, he will see that he has had  great career in football.


I think Ronaldo will retire way later on compared to the average player. Messi will retire before Ronaldo I think. Ronaldo is always in top shape and is super dedicated, his athleticism is one of the best ever seen. I think he could reach age 40 and still be able to compete at the elite.
Yes, maybe you're right, he have a good potential and a good body compared to messi. As you said, "his athleticism is one of the best ever seen".
I think he will retire way later after a big seasons in la liga with Real Mardid.

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June 07, 2017, 06:12:28 PM
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Winning mentality of Real Madrid was one of the key factors for winning championship. Many will disagree with me but I have seen that many times. Also I would agree with `sergio red`, Zidan is doing great job as a coach, He surely can find a way to motivate and compose team. We can see that as we compare Real in first and in second half. They define a strategy for second half and they did it well. Juve players helped them, also totally different team in second half. Second goal for Madrid was lucky shot, third came very fast, from that moment Juves game totally collapsed. They looked to me like a strong solid team during a season. Only three goals in their net and four in one game...

Cristiano Ronaldo is definitely the most ambitious football player ever. He always wants more. Most players become too complacent when they are rich, or maybe when they finally get golden boot and golden globe awards. He is on a mission to have the highest award count ever, and break all records. He has all cups, now he is just missing the world cup. I hope we can see Portugal win 1 world cup with Ronaldo before he retires.

He is a very competitive player and success has shown the entire world that hard work and dedication towards a goal will always accomplish it, he set his mind on becoming a world class player and he's been rated with Kaka, Ronaldinho and now Messi, if you see the timeline of these comparison, he will see that he has had  great career in football.


I think Ronaldo will retire way later on compared to the average player. Messi will retire before Ronaldo I think. Ronaldo is always in top shape and is super dedicated, his athleticism is one of the best ever seen. I think he could reach age 40 and still be able to compete at the elite.
Yes, maybe you're right, he have a good potential and a good body compared to messi. As you said, "his athleticism is one of the best ever seen".
I think he will retire way later after a big seasons in la liga with Real Mardid.

He's going to keep trying until near age 40 or so because he wants a world cup. In order to be a real legend in football you MUST at least win 1 world cup. He already got the Euro, now he needs to go for the world cup. So we have 2018, then 2022, I doubt he will still be around to be able to play in the 2026 world cup.
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June 08, 2017, 05:24:23 PM
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Winning mentality of Real Madrid was one of the key factors for winning championship. Many will disagree with me but I have seen that many times. Also I would agree with `sergio red`, Zidan is doing great job as a coach, He surely can find a way to motivate and compose team. We can see that as we compare Real in first and in second half. They define a strategy for second half and they did it well. Juve players helped them, also totally different team in second half. Second goal for Madrid was lucky shot, third came very fast, from that moment Juves game totally collapsed. They looked to me like a strong solid team during a season. Only three goals in their net and four in one game...

Cristiano Ronaldo is definitely the most ambitious football player ever. He always wants more. Most players become too complacent when they are rich, or maybe when they finally get golden boot and golden globe awards. He is on a mission to have the highest award count ever, and break all records. He has all cups, now he is just missing the world cup. I hope we can see Portugal win 1 world cup with Ronaldo before he retires.
He is a very competent  and competitive player but the truth of the matter is that he plays for Portugal and historically they have always lacked something, maybe they lacked someone like Ronaldo, but this is a team game he cannot carry them all, they need to be as hungry as him if they want a chance to win the world cup.
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June 09, 2017, 07:55:58 AM
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He's going to keep trying until near age 40 or so because he wants a world cup. In order to be a real legend in football you MUST at least win 1 world cup. He already got the Euro, now he needs to go for the world cup. So we have 2018, then 2022, I doubt he will still be around to be able to play in the 2026 world cup.

If he is fit enough to keep on playing then I wouldnt mind. He is good enough even now and there is no other player that could beat him yet instead of messi so why not. I would love to see him keep playing and imagine how bad would it be if there isnt any ronaldo or even messi anymore in real madrid or barcelona
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June 09, 2017, 10:26:36 AM
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Here are groups (provisional) for the draws for champion's league 2017/18

Group 1: (Teams that won the championship in the top 8 championships)
Real Madrid
Bayern
Chelsea
Juventus
Benfica
Monaco
Spartak Moscow
Shaktar Donetsk


Group 2:
Barcelona   
At. Madrid
Psg
Borussia Dortmund
Manchester City
Porto
Manchester United
Sevilla *

Group 3:
Napoli *
Totthenham
Basilea
Dinamo Kyev *
Ajax *
Olympiakos *
Anderlecht
Liverpool *

Group 4:
Roma
Besiktas
Celtic *
Salisburgo *
Copenaghen*
Lugodorets *
Feyenoord
Rb Leipzig


-From the second to the fourth group the teams are in ranking order.
* Teams that have to play playoffs or qualifying rounds.


There could be very difficult groups, for Example: Real Madrid, Juventus, Tottenham, Rb Leipzig
or very soft for example: Spartak Moscow, Porto, Basilea, Besiktas








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June 09, 2017, 05:27:34 PM
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Winning mentality of Real Madrid was one of the key factors for winning championship. Many will disagree with me but I have seen that many times. Also I would agree with `sergio red`, Zidan is doing great job as a coach, He surely can find a way to motivate and compose team. We can see that as we compare Real in first and in second half. They define a strategy for second half and they did it well. Juve players helped them, also totally different team in second half. Second goal for Madrid was lucky shot, third came very fast, from that moment Juves game totally collapsed. They looked to me like a strong solid team during a season. Only three goals in their net and four in one game...

Cristiano Ronaldo is definitely the most ambitious football player ever. He always wants more. Most players become too complacent when they are rich, or maybe when they finally get golden boot and golden globe awards. He is on a mission to have the highest award count ever, and break all records. He has all cups, now he is just missing the world cup. I hope we can see Portugal win 1 world cup with Ronaldo before he retires.
He is a very competent  and competitive player but the truth of the matter is that he plays for Portugal and historically they have always lacked something, maybe they lacked someone like Ronaldo, but this is a team game he cannot carry them all, they need to be as hungry as him if they want a chance to win the world cup.
Definitely,
Cristiano Ronaldo is a very ambitious player, his scoring hungry makes him more serious, he is a diligent athletic, he always try to keep fit in any situation, besides a great player he is also a great leader, in pitch he always try to motivate other team mates, he loves score more and more. He is also a lucky man...
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June 10, 2017, 10:03:47 AM
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Winning mentality of Real Madrid was one of the key factors for winning championship. Many will disagree with me but I have seen that many times. Also I would agree with `sergio red`, Zidan is doing great job as a coach, He surely can find a way to motivate and compose team. We can see that as we compare Real in first and in second half. They define a strategy for second half and they did it well. Juve players helped them, also totally different team in second half. Second goal for Madrid was lucky shot, third came very fast, from that moment Juves game totally collapsed. They looked to me like a strong solid team during a season. Only three goals in their net and four in one game...

Cristiano Ronaldo is definitely the most ambitious football player ever. He always wants more. Most players become too complacent when they are rich, or maybe when they finally get golden boot and golden globe awards. He is on a mission to have the highest award count ever, and break all records. He has all cups, now he is just missing the world cup. I hope we can see Portugal win 1 world cup with Ronaldo before he retires.

He is a very competitive player and success has shown the entire world that hard work and dedication towards a goal will always accomplish it, he set his mind on becoming a world class player and he's been rated with Kaka, Ronaldinho and now Messi, if you see the timeline of these comparison, he will see that he has had  great career in football.


I think Ronaldo will retire way later on compared to the average player. Messi will retire before Ronaldo I think. Ronaldo is always in top shape and is super dedicated, his athleticism is one of the best ever seen. I think he could reach age 40 and still be able to compete at the elite.
Yes, maybe you're right, he have a good potential and a good body compared to messi. As you said, "his athleticism is one of the best ever seen".
I think he will retire way later after a big seasons in la liga with Real Mardid.

He's going to keep trying until near age 40 or so because he wants a world cup. In order to be a real legend in football you MUST at least win 1 world cup. He already got the Euro, now he needs to go for the world cup. So we have 2018, then 2022, I doubt he will still be around to be able to play in the 2026 world cup.
Yeah it's no secret that ronaldo or any footballer wants a world cup,But I do not think that ronaldo can play until the age of 40 years, he is different with totti because totti does not play as active as ronaldo so there is still power possessed by totti to be able to play until now.

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June 17, 2017, 09:57:55 PM
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I expected to see Real Madrid to win, but didn't expect this goal fest.
With the scores tied at half time, there was no clue about what was to happen in the second half. Real were practically unstoppable, scoring 3 goals to take the final tally to 4-1. Real showed their true class and retained the trophy.

I whole heartely agree.
I can see them taking the Super Cup next month too.

They are the best team in the world now.
No doubts about this now that Barcelona has not shown what mettle they are truly made of last season in La Liga. Embarrassed
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June 17, 2017, 10:55:11 PM
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I expected to see Real Madrid to win, but didn't expect this goal fest.
With the scores tied at half time, there was no clue about what was to happen in the second half. Real were practically unstoppable, scoring 3 goals to take the final tally to 4-1. Real showed their true class and retained the trophy.

I whole heartely agree.
I can see them taking the Super Cup next month too.

They are the best team in the world now.
No doubts about this now that Barcelona has not shown what mettle they are truly made of last season in La Liga. Embarrassed

We should not go into conclusions so quickly, Mourinho is a far better tactician than Zidane and i know he is going to upset Real Madrid and win the Super Cup for Manchester United.

 
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June 18, 2017, 03:27:56 AM
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Liverpool must really take the play-offs seriously, their full-time effort to get into the top four is something to be paid for at a reasonable price, and the champions league group is the right gift. Moreover manchester united has entered the group phase, do not want to lose from them is not it?
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June 18, 2017, 11:14:43 AM
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I expected to see Real Madrid to win, but didn't expect this goal fest.
With the scores tied at half time, there was no clue about what was to happen in the second half. Real were practically unstoppable, scoring 3 goals to take the final tally to 4-1. Real showed their true class and retained the trophy.

I whole heartely agree.
I can see them taking the Super Cup next month too.

They are the best team in the world now.
No doubts about this now that Barcelona has not shown what mettle they are truly made of last season in La Liga. Embarrassed

We should not go into conclusions so quickly, Mourinho is a far better tactician than Zidane and i know he is going to upset Real Madrid and win the Super Cup for Manchester United.

Yup I second that. Mourinho preaches boring but efficient style of playing football. If that means 90 minutes of trying to outwit one another and no goals so be it. The CL final was absolutely spectacular and maybe we are in for a 'boring' Super Cup game  Wink
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June 18, 2017, 12:25:51 PM
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Real > United but basing it on last season's line ups and performances.  Let's see what kind of line ups both teams will be able to come up with after the summer transfer window.  I also think we'll see a resurgence of sorts at United this year.  But would it he enough to win the league?  It's hard to say.

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June 18, 2017, 12:38:21 PM
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I expected to see Real Madrid to win, but didn't expect this goal fest.
With the scores tied at half time, there was no clue about what was to happen in the second half. Real were practically unstoppable, scoring 3 goals to take the final tally to 4-1. Real showed their true class and retained the trophy.

I whole heartely agree.
I can see them taking the Super Cup next month too.

They are the best team in the world now.
No doubts about this now that Barcelona has not shown what mettle they are truly made of last season in La Liga. Embarrassed

We should not go into conclusions so quickly, Mourinho is a far better tactician than Zidane and i know he is going to upset Real Madrid and win the Super Cup for Manchester United.

Mourinho - yeah a great tactician, finishing 6th in the PL with the most expensive squad in world football. He's a dinosaur & past his best.

Real will beat them.

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June 18, 2017, 12:49:42 PM
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Alex Ferguson was a dinosaur and past his best too but look at what he has achieved. Mourinho needs time to get the full squad he wants and this can't happen in the first season he is at the helm of the club. I think we need to cut him some slack  Grin
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June 18, 2017, 01:01:49 PM
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Liverpool must really take the play-offs seriously, their full-time effort to get into the top four is something to be paid for at a reasonable price, and the champions league group is the right gift. Moreover manchester united has entered the group phase, do not want to lose from them is not it?
the rivalry between Liverpool and Manchester United always be interested to see and next season even Liverpool has pretty long to wait to playing again in champion league but they have to through play-off matches however i still not seen their upcoming opponent but i'm quite sure they will through play-off matches and went to group phase

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June 18, 2017, 01:12:53 PM
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I expected to see Real Madrid to win, but didn't expect this goal fest.
With the scores tied at half time, there was no clue about what was to happen in the second half. Real were practically unstoppable, scoring 3 goals to take the final tally to 4-1. Real showed their true class and retained the trophy.

I whole heartely agree.
I can see them taking the Super Cup next month too.

They are the best team in the world now.
No doubts about this now that Barcelona has not shown what mettle they are truly made of last season in La Liga. Embarrassed

We should not go into conclusions so quickly, Mourinho is a far better tactician than Zidane and i know he is going to upset Real Madrid and win the Super Cup for Manchester United.

Mourinho - yeah a great tactician, finishing 6th in the PL with the most expensive squad in world football. He's a dinosaur & past his best.

Real will beat them.

At least Mou give a title for MU unlike Klopp LOL.. Dont underestimate a team, coach, players just from their 1st year experience.  Look at the fact how long Fergie needs to wait before he could build the dream team.
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June 18, 2017, 01:27:32 PM
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I expected to see Real Madrid to win, but didn't expect this goal fest.
With the scores tied at half time, there was no clue about what was to happen in the second half. Real were practically unstoppable, scoring 3 goals to take the final tally to 4-1. Real showed their true class and retained the trophy.

I whole heartely agree.
I can see them taking the Super Cup next month too.

They are the best team in the world now.
No doubts about this now that Barcelona has not shown what mettle they are truly made of last season in La Liga. Embarrassed

We should not go into conclusions so quickly, Mourinho is a far better tactician than Zidane and i know he is going to upset Real Madrid and win the Super Cup for Manchester United.

Mourinho - yeah a great tactician, finishing 6th in the PL with the most expensive squad in world football. He's a dinosaur & past his best.

Real will beat them.

At least Mou give a title for MU unlike Klopp LOL.. Dont underestimate a team, coach, players just from their 1st year experience.  Look at the fact how long Fergie needs to wait before he could build the dream team.


Ferguson was a top class manager but football has changed. Owners want instant results, if Mourinho doesn't compete for the title this season I think they will sack him.

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June 18, 2017, 02:07:50 PM
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I expected to see Real Madrid to win, but didn't expect this goal fest.
With the scores tied at half time, there was no clue about what was to happen in the second half. Real were practically unstoppable, scoring 3 goals to take the final tally to 4-1. Real showed their true class and retained the trophy.

I whole heartely agree.
I can see them taking the Super Cup next month too.

They are the best team in the world now.
No doubts about this now that Barcelona has not shown what mettle they are truly made of last season in La Liga. Embarrassed

We should not go into conclusions so quickly, Mourinho is a far better tactician than Zidane and i know he is going to upset Real Madrid and win the Super Cup for Manchester United.

Mourinho - yeah a great tactician, finishing 6th in the PL with the most expensive squad in world football. He's a dinosaur & past his best.

Real will beat them.

At least Mou give a title for MU unlike Klopp LOL.. Dont underestimate a team, coach, players just from their 1st year experience.  Look at the fact how long Fergie needs to wait before he could build the dream team.


Ferguson was a top class manager but football has changed. Owners want instant results, if Mourinho doesn't compete for the title this season I think they will sack him.

Of course, there will be a lot of pressure on him next season and now that united fans have started believing again I think they will expect nothing less than a cabinet full of trophies especially the EPL title which has eluded them for some seasons now.
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June 18, 2017, 02:17:22 PM
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I expected to see Real Madrid to win, but didn't expect this goal fest.
With the scores tied at half time, there was no clue about what was to happen in the second half. Real were practically unstoppable, scoring 3 goals to take the final tally to 4-1. Real showed their true class and retained the trophy.

I whole heartely agree.
I can see them taking the Super Cup next month too.

They are the best team in the world now.
No doubts about this now that Barcelona has not shown what mettle they are truly made of last season in La Liga. Embarrassed

We should not go into conclusions so quickly, Mourinho is a far better tactician than Zidane and i know he is going to upset Real Madrid and win the Super Cup for Manchester United.

Mourinho - yeah a great tactician, finishing 6th in the PL with the most expensive squad in world football. He's a dinosaur & past his best.

Real will beat them.

At least Mou give a title for MU unlike Klopp LOL.. Dont underestimate a team, coach, players just from their 1st year experience.  Look at the fact how long Fergie needs to wait before he could build the dream team.


Ferguson was a top class manager but football has changed. Owners want instant results, if Mourinho doesn't compete for the title this season I think they will sack him.

Of course, there will be a lot of pressure on him next season and now that united fans have started believing again I think they will expect nothing less than a cabinet full of trophies especially the EPL title which has eluded them for some seasons now.

JM always makes sure his primary tactic is to stop the opposition attacking. Sit back, soak up pressure, time waste, men behind the ball, wait for a direct counter attack, eliminate creativity, hoof it long, then keep defending again. Everything.We call it anti football. And if he doesn't challenge for the title next season, he will be sacked.

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June 18, 2017, 07:59:31 PM
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I expected to see Real Madrid to win, but didn't expect this goal fest.
With the scores tied at half time, there was no clue about what was to happen in the second half. Real were practically unstoppable, scoring 3 goals to take the final tally to 4-1. Real showed their true class and retained the trophy.

I whole heartely agree.
I can see them taking the Super Cup next month too.

They are the best team in the world now.
No doubts about this now that Barcelona has not shown what mettle they are truly made of last season in La Liga. Embarrassed

We should not go into conclusions so quickly, Mourinho is a far better tactician than Zidane and i know he is going to upset Real Madrid and win the Super Cup for Manchester United.

Mourinho - yeah a great tactician, finishing 6th in the PL with the most expensive squad in world football. He's a dinosaur & past his best.

Real will beat them.

At least Mou give a title for MU unlike Klopp LOL.. Dont underestimate a team, coach, players just from their 1st year experience.  Look at the fact how long Fergie needs to wait before he could build the dream team.


Ferguson was a top class manager but football has changed. Owners want instant results, if Mourinho doesn't compete for the title this season I think they will sack him.

Of course, there will be a lot of pressure on him next season and now that united fans have started believing again I think they will expect nothing less than a cabinet full of trophies especially the EPL title which has eluded them for some seasons now.
I think, Jose Mourinho is ready to take any challenges in upcoming year, that coming season will be the vital year of his Manchester United career. So he must win any bid trophy, either European competition or domestic league...so it will be an acid test for him...
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