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June 22, 2017, 02:42:44 AM
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RB Salzburg and RB Leipzig will be able to participate in the next Champions League despite both being part of the common property Red Bull.
The rules seemed to deny participation to both teams, but the Fifa commission decided to admit both teams

RB Leipzig isn't going to qualify anyways.
RB Salzburg has chances, but group stage tops.

Lol, what?  Didn't Leipzig already qualify for CL football by way of finishing second in the Bundesliga?  If you mean to go further than the group stages than yes, that's a maybe, but they do have a good team and lots of RB money back them.  I'd say they have a good chance to reach the KO stages, unless they draw the dreaded group of death of course.


Yes, the Rb Leipzig is already qualified for groups!


That's what I was asking about.  You said that 'RB Leipzig isn't going to qualify anyways', your words.  Look at the bolded quote above made by you.

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Surely it will have a difficult group because it has a very low ranking. The Rb Leizpig can be the loose cannon of the next champion's league


RB Leipzig, low ranking?  This does not compute.  How do you think will they by drawn in a difficult group?  It's draw if I'm not mistaken so there's no saying which group they're getting into.  And Leipzig are playing well enough to get them to the KO stages judging from their performance last season.  They got more points than Dortmund in case you didn;t know.

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June 22, 2017, 09:33:08 AM
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RB Salzburg and RB Leipzig will be able to participate in the next Champions League despite both being part of the common property Red Bull.
The rules seemed to deny participation to both teams, but the Fifa commission decided to admit both teams

RB Leipzig isn't going to qualify anyways.
RB Salzburg has chances, but group stage tops.

Lol, what?  Didn't Leipzig already qualify for CL football by way of finishing second in the Bundesliga?  If you mean to go further than the group stages than yes, that's a maybe, but they do have a good team and lots of RB money back them.  I'd say they have a good chance to reach the KO stages, unless they draw the dreaded group of death of course.


Yes, the Rb Leipzig is already qualified for groups!


That's what I was asking about.  You said that 'RB Leipzig isn't going to qualify anyways', your words.  Look at the bolded quote above made by you.

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Surely it will have a difficult group because it has a very low ranking. The Rb Leizpig can be the loose cannon of the next champion's league


RB Leipzig, low ranking?  This does not compute.  How do you think will they by drawn in a difficult group?  It's draw if I'm not mistaken so there's no saying which group they're getting into.  And Leipzig are playing well enough to get them to the KO stages judging from their performance last season.  They got more points than Dortmund in case you didn;t know.

I have never said that RB Leizpig is not qualified for groups.
"RB Leipzig is not going to qualify anyways.
RB Salzburg has chances but group stage tops " is the post of another user (iluvbitcoins)

RB Leipzig has a low coefficient because he has never participated in European cups.

This is the ranking of the teams already qualified at the next champion's league (I did not include the winning teams of the major championships)
 
Barcelona (ESP)              151.999
Atlético Madrid (ESP)       142.999
Paris Saint-Germain (FRA) 126.333
Borussia Dortmund (GER) 124.899
Manchester City (ENG)     100.192
Porto (POR)                      98.866
Manchester United* (ENG) 95.192
Tottenham Hotspur (ENG)  77.192
Basel (SUI)                       74.415
Anderlecht (BEL)               58.840
Roma (ITA)                      53.666
Beşiktaş (TUR)                 45.840
Feyenoord (NED)              23.212
RB Leipzig (GER)              15.899


Rb Leipzig in his group will have 1 team between: Real Madrid,Chelsea, Juventus, Benfica,Monaco, Spartak Moscow, Shaktar Donetsk
and 1 team between: Barcelona, At. Madrid, Psg,  Manchester City, Porto,Manchester United , Sevilla (or Napoli).

I did not include Bayern and Borussia Dortmund because German teams, and in groups there can not be "derby"

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June 23, 2017, 03:06:17 AM
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Ah, yeah.  But the only reason why Leipzig's coefficient is low is due to the fact that they are a club that went from nowhere to the top level in only a short amount of time.  Their squad right now is enough to deal with the top clubs, at least in the group stages.  The KO stages is where all the fun begins and would be a real test for them.

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June 23, 2017, 03:26:31 AM
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a new face will coming on 2018 season , we got RB Leipzig , Red Bull Salzburg , TSG Hoffenheim etc ., im so excited with new CL season as a real madrid fan i always favor my team to be champions once again lol , it would be proud to make history about 3 consecutives champions  Grin

Is Red Bull Salzburg really that big ? I mean yes they are superior on domestic league but The Champions League is another level here. I'm not sure RB Salzburg can qualify to the next round. For Leipzig, i have abig faith on this team, they had a great run on bundesliga and i'm sure they can qualify on group stage.


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June 23, 2017, 04:14:19 AM
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English teams just don't fare well in the CL tournament. I don't think we will see any of them win the trophy next season. Time will tell though Grin
But next season's champions league will be more interesting, especially as England have the opportunity to send 5 teams. 4 slots for the group stages have been filled, and Liverpool also have a chance to be the team to 5. I also think if Chelsea can at least maintain their style of play like yesterday, I'm sure Chelsea can do much next season in champions league.
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June 23, 2017, 04:17:10 AM
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Some years back you could expect surprises lately when the favorite teams appear to be in trouble there is always a referee's helping hand, so the same teams always win.
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June 23, 2017, 09:22:35 AM
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Here are the first odds for who will win the next champion's league 2017/18:

Bayern                   @6.00
Barcelona               @6.00
Real Madrid             @6.00
Juventus                 @8.00
Chelsea                @12.00
Manchester City     @13.00
Manchester United @15.00
At. Madrid             @15.00
Psg                       @17.00


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June 23, 2017, 10:56:36 AM
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English teams just don't fare well in the CL tournament. I don't think we will see any of them win the trophy next season. Time will tell though Grin
But with so many of them being qualified to play this year it would seem really improbable and very unlucky if literally none of them get to late parts of the tournament. They are not weaker than Monaco, Atletico or Juventus and are capable of beating them. They just need to finally break that English fate.
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June 23, 2017, 12:09:31 PM
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Here are the first odds for who will win the next champion's league 2017/18:

Bayern                   @6.00
Barcelona               @6.00
Real Madrid             @6.00
Juventus                 @8.00
Chelsea                @12.00
Manchester City     @13.00
Manchester United @15.00
At. Madrid             @15.00
Psg                       @17.00


At this moment there is a great balance between so many teasms.
 Very important will be the summer session of Tranfermarket: At. Madrid has the market blocked for the Ban, Real Madrid can lose CR7, Juventus may lose its best defender (Bonucci).

Cristiano Ronaldo is definitely not moving from Real Madrid, i believe his main motivation is because the higher hierachy of the club were not vocalising their support for him and since Perez did that, He seems to be okay with staying now.

 
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June 23, 2017, 12:27:02 PM
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Here are the first odds for who will win the next champion's league 2017/18:

Bayern                   @6.00
Barcelona               @6.00
Real Madrid             @6.00
Juventus                 @8.00
Chelsea                @12.00
Manchester City     @13.00
Manchester United @15.00
At. Madrid             @15.00
Psg                       @17.00


At this moment there is a great balance between so many teasms.
 Very important will be the summer session of Tranfermarket: At. Madrid has the market blocked for the Ban, Real Madrid can lose CR7, Juventus may lose its best defender (Bonucci).

Cristiano Ronaldo is definitely not moving from Real Madrid, i believe his main motivation is because the higher hierachy of the club were not vocalising their support for him and since Perez did that, He seems to be okay with staying now.

I also believe that Christiano Ronaldo will stay on Real Madrid if Zidane not recruit any striker that can compete with Ronaldo. Actually it's still hard to predict who will be the champion for the next champions league. Chelsea could be the best competitor so far with their manager and great run on premier league.


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June 24, 2017, 08:24:26 PM
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Here are the first odds for who will win the next champion's league 2017/18:

Bayern                   @6.00
Barcelona               @6.00
Real Madrid             @6.00
Juventus                 @8.00
Chelsea                @12.00
Manchester City     @13.00
Manchester United @15.00
At. Madrid             @15.00
Psg                       @17.00


At this moment there is a great balance between so many teasms.
 Very important will be the summer session of Tranfermarket: At. Madrid has the market blocked for the Ban, Real Madrid can lose CR7, Juventus may lose its best defender (Bonucci).

Cristiano Ronaldo is definitely not moving from Real Madrid, i believe his main motivation is because the higher hierachy of the club were not vocalising their support for him and since Perez did that, He seems to be okay with staying now.

I also believe that Christiano Ronaldo will stay on Real Madrid if Zidane not recruit any striker that can compete with Ronaldo. Actually it's still hard to predict who will be the champion for the next champions league. Chelsea could be the best competitor so far with their manager and great run on premier league.

I think that Ronaldo is not playing in Real Madrid next session and will be playing with another club that is why i saw that he is recommending other good players to be included in Real Madrid. Chelsea is a good team and they can give surprise in coming season
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June 24, 2017, 08:35:16 PM
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Here are the first odds for who will win the next champion's league 2017/18:

Bayern                   @6.00
Barcelona               @6.00
Real Madrid             @6.00
Juventus                 @8.00
Chelsea                @12.00
Manchester City     @13.00
Manchester United @15.00
At. Madrid             @15.00
Psg                       @17.00


At this moment there is a great balance between so many teasms.
 Very important will be the summer session of Tranfermarket: At. Madrid has the market blocked for the Ban, Real Madrid can lose CR7, Juventus may lose its best defender (Bonucci).

Cristiano Ronaldo is definitely not moving from Real Madrid, i believe his main motivation is because the higher hierachy of the club were not vocalising their support for him and since Perez did that, He seems to be okay with staying now.

I also believe that Christiano Ronaldo will stay on Real Madrid if Zidane not recruit any striker that can compete with Ronaldo. Actually it's still hard to predict who will be the champion for the next champions league. Chelsea could be the best competitor so far with their manager and great run on premier league.

I think that Ronaldo is not playing in Real Madrid next session and will be playing with another club that is why i saw that he is recommending other good players to be included in Real Madrid. Chelsea is a good team and they can give surprise in coming season

With or without Christiano Ronaldo, I believe Real Madrid can still win the Champions League. I have come to believe in Zenedine Zidane and he has proved to be technically strong. There have been cases where Madrid have won without Ronaldo scoring and therefore I believe Real can still do better with him. But with the look of things, Ronaldo will stay at Real for another season.
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June 24, 2017, 08:48:54 PM
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a new face will coming on 2018 season , we got RB Leipzig , Red Bull Salzburg , TSG Hoffenheim etc ., im so excited with new CL season as a real madrid fan i always favor my team to be champions once again lol , it would be proud to make history about 3 consecutives champions  Grin

Is Red Bull Salzburg really that big ? I mean yes they are superior on domestic league but The Champions League is another level here. I'm not sure RB Salzburg can qualify to the next round. For Leipzig, i have abig faith on this team, they had a great run on bundesliga and i'm sure they can qualify on group stage.
RB Salzburg is not bad at all they can give some surprises in CL because they have very good record at local league and they are doing some hard work for next season in CL lets see what's going to happen because we have some new teams and they all want to be give some tough time to big guns
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June 24, 2017, 08:56:43 PM
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If I am not wrong, Bayern was also the most advanced team in the past season regarding the odds, for the coming one I think Chelsea and Man City have good chances, Spain has dominated the last 4 leagues.
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June 24, 2017, 09:05:57 PM
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If I am not wrong, Bayern was also the most advanced team in the past season regarding the odds, for the coming one I think Chelsea and Man City have good chances, Spain has dominated the last 4 leagues.
Chelsea and Man City have good chances but big problem is most of time English teams prefer EPL and they are not going with full force in UCL if they give some more power in this event they can catch Spanish and German opponents currently these both countries are dominating with Italian are in also good mood
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June 24, 2017, 09:10:05 PM
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If I am not wrong, Bayern was also the most advanced team in the past season regarding the odds, for the coming one I think Chelsea and Man City have good chances, Spain has dominated the last 4 leagues.
Chelsea and Man City have good chances but big problem is most of time English teams prefer EPL and they are not going with full force in UCL if they give some more power in this event they can catch Spanish and German opponents currently these both countries are dominating with Italian are in also good mood

Both English teams have no chance of getting the trophy than Manchester United, Mourinho is highly determined to get the trophy, Chelsea dont have the depth to compete for the trophy and Guardiola still havent figured out the style to play with his side, he is clearly experimenting.

 
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The Uefa SuperCup will be on 8 August in Skopje between Real Madrid and Manchester United.

We will see which team, CR7 will play this trophy!

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June 30, 2017, 12:36:08 PM
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The Uefa SuperCup will be on 8 August in Skopje between Real Madrid and Manchester United.

We will see which team, CR7 will play this trophy!

Uefa Super Cup this time is really very worth to watch, unlike last season between Sevilla and Real Madrid, Real Madrid vs Manchester United match sounds more fierce. I tend to choose Real Madrid to win the game, but I want Real Madrid not to win easily, I'm sure it will not happen, It's Manchester United.


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June 30, 2017, 02:23:57 PM
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The Uefa SuperCup will be on 8 August in Skopje between Real Madrid and Manchester United.

We will see which team, CR7 will play this trophy!
Ronaldo might be tired after play on confederation cup and i think Zidane will not give the priority to playing him in this match because even supercup also good and could be their first trophy to starting new season but the most important is keep Ronaldo conditions with not pushing Ronaldo play because season 2017/2018 is more important however there is good possibility the trophy will belongs to Madrid
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June 30, 2017, 03:02:47 PM
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The Uefa SuperCup will be on 8 August in Skopje between Real Madrid and Manchester United.

We will see which team, CR7 will play this trophy!
Ronaldo might be tired after play on confederation cup and i think Zidane will not give the priority to playing him in this match because even supercup also good and could be their first trophy to starting new season but the most important is keep Ronaldo conditions with not pushing Ronaldo play because season 2017/2018 is more important however there is good possibility the trophy will belongs to Madrid


Ronaldo will give everything that he has because this match is important for him. More trophy and more goals means his chance to win another ballon d'or is higher. He wont miss this chance, he will win everything until he decide to retire. He will score atleast two goal and dedicate it to his newly born twin, perhaps
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