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December 25, 2021, 05:41:46 AM
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Juventus will be working hard to reach the top of the table, but AC Milan, Napoli and Atalanta probably won't make it easy.
Juventus still has an opportunity to end in UCL zone. It is still in the middle of the competition, there are 19 matches left. Although they may not beat AC Milan in the second place, I am optimistic Juventus can beat Napoli and Atalanta if they are getting solid in playing and do their best in the next half-season. If we take a look at the results of the last 5 matches, they got 4 wins and only 1 draw. It indicates Juventus has changed to normal again and is ready to compete to be back at UCL zone.

Juventus have a solid squad. And can still make it to the top 4 before the season ends. Although, It won't be easy as they are 4 points behind Atalanta on the standings, and taking the 4th position from Atalanta will be difficult. However, You are right, Juventus drew 1 game out of their last 5 matches, and won the rest 4 with clean sheet. They just have to play more consistent on their next matches. Although, Juventus will be facing Napoli and Roma in their next two matches, which I think will be tough for them to win.



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December 25, 2021, 05:51:04 AM
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Indeed it is hard to talk about Serie A without talking about the king which is Juventus,,, and I know I should say very little because of the whole idea that I only followed this league recently and even so just from the news, but does the scandal of matchfixing involving Juventus make their reputation of winning titles in the relevant years any worse? Just asking from a perspective of an outsider Smiley
The King is coming back silently but they are coming back in reality. AC Milan and Inter Milan have to watch out Juventus very closely. They have good players and a very experienced coach, Max. If AC Milan and Inter Milan can not maintain their good and stable performance, it won't be a big surprise if we see Juventus join the Scudetto race in next 1 to 2 months. They have enough resources and experience to do it.
I see Juventus have gone through a change that means Allegri has fixed what was a problem before that made their squad bad, but to get 10 points is very difficult especially now that Milan and Inter are on fire they will certainly maintain their stability and add points by even then brilliant if Milan and Inter can be consistent.
If Juventus is said to be king for now I don't think it's right, if last season it could be said yes but now he will not be restrained.

They Juventus has to focus on themselves until they close down the points.
I strongly believes Allegri will get reinforcement this transfer window.
Gradually they'll move to in the top four in the table.

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December 25, 2021, 07:50:17 AM
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Juventus only left four points from UCL zone and I think looks easy for Juventus back to top position standing again but they need keep consistent on every match, right now Juventus have 34 points and and keep standing on number fifth above Atlanta have 28 points. For first standing position with Inter Milan Juventus left 12 points and I think looks easy if Juventus can win on every match. I hope second half season all team could more competitive and take points on every match.
4 points are not too much and with uncertainty, unstability of above teams, Juventus have due diligent chance to beat either Napoli or Atalanta. If Juventus takes over it, they won't easily to throw it away to other teams. Because they have good and experienced players. Their coach, Max is very smart and experienced. Let's see how Napoli and Atalanta can protect their positions under pressure from Juventus.

Additionally, behind Juventus we have Roma, Fiorentina, Lazio with 32 points an 31 points. Those clubs have only 7 to 8 points less than Napoli. Serie A has a very interesting race for last 2 positions in top 4.
I like with this competition where all club have different little point and lets see second half season where are team most consistent again and keep sty with top position standing. Next match still two weeks later where Serie A competition not playing on cristmast day, I hope Juventus can take first standing position again after last year failed to get trophy and very difficult get one place on champion league before last match success win. I see Inter Milan as team always consistent and beside AC Milan not playing well on every match, some time loss and and win.

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December 25, 2021, 10:29:59 AM
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Juventus only left four points from UCL zone and I think looks easy for Juventus back to top position standing again but they need keep consistent on every match, right now Juventus have 34 points and and keep standing on number fifth above Atlanta have 28 points. For first standing position with Inter Milan Juventus left 12 points and I think looks easy if Juventus can win on every match. I hope second half season all team could more competitive and take points on every match.
4 points are not too much and with uncertainty, unstability of above teams, Juventus have due diligent chance to beat either Napoli or Atalanta. If Juventus takes over it, they won't easily to throw it away to other teams. Because they have good and experienced players. Their coach, Max is very smart and experienced. Let's see how Napoli and Atalanta can protect their positions under pressure from Juventus.

Additionally, behind Juventus we have Roma, Fiorentina, Lazio with 32 points an 31 points. Those clubs have only 7 to 8 points less than Napoli. Serie A has a very interesting race for last 2 positions in top 4.
I like with this competition where all club have different little point and lets see second half season where are team most consistent again and keep sty with top position standing. Next match still two weeks later where Serie A competition not playing on cristmast day, I hope Juventus can take first standing position again after last year failed to get trophy and very difficult get one place on champion league before last match success win. I see Inter Milan as team always consistent and beside AC Milan not playing well on every match, some time loss and and win.

I believe that Juventus should buy player’s during January transfer window to ensure that they reach the top 4 spot, because at current rate they may just miss out on champions league football.

Furthermore whichever team strengthens in January transfer window will have the advantage of securing champions league football, hence the interesting question is how much will these teams spend, and will they get their desired player’s once the transfer window opens?.
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December 25, 2021, 10:54:45 AM
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4 points are not too much and with uncertainty, unstability of above teams, Juventus have due diligent chance to beat either Napoli or Atalanta. If Juventus takes over it, they won't easily to throw it away to other teams. Because they have good and experienced players. Their coach, Max is very smart and experienced. Let's see how Napoli and Atalanta can protect their positions under pressure from Juventus.

Additionally, behind Juventus we have Roma, Fiorentina, Lazio with 32 points an 31 points. Those clubs have only 7 to 8 points less than Napoli. Serie A has a very interesting race for last 2 positions in top 4.

I just looked at the long-term quotes of Juventus and was very surprised - it looks like the bookmakers consider it the favorite in the fight for the 2nd place:

Serie A 2021/22 - w/o Juventus Turin
Inter - 1.22
Napoli - 7.50
Milan - 7.50
Atalanta - 7.50
https://stake.com/sports/outright/soccer/italy/serie-a/41984153-serie-a-21-22

Did I understand these odds correctly? For me, they look like illogical and I do not believe that Juventus will end the season in 2nd place above all these clubs.

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December 25, 2021, 11:02:06 AM
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Inter are in a very great situation now. They are not just dominating the league. In the recent times, their closest opponents to them in the standings had really difficult games too while Inter were having much easier ones. And this was another factor that helped Inter open the gap with them more. However, Inter still showed a much better performance when all of top teams played easier games. Milan and Napoli made simple loss of points and this made things worse for themselves. And now, I see that Inter have another opportunity to open this gap more. Because Milan and Napoli both are going to have very difficult games next time. These games are: Juventus - Napoli, Milan - Roma.

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December 25, 2021, 11:30:07 AM
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Inter are in a very great situation now. They are not just dominating the league. In the recent times, their closest opponents to them in the standings had really difficult games too while Inter were having much easier ones. And this was another factor that helped Inter open the gap with them more.
Inter Milan players have more experience than AC Milan players in Scudetto competition and it can help them to win it in this season. However, if the Scudetto race is only between AC Milan and Inter Milan that I doubt it won't be like that, AC Milan won't let Inter Milan to win this race too easily. It is like a bigger Milan derby, a derby for Scudetto.

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However, Inter still showed a much better performance when all of top teams played easier games. Milan and Napoli made simple loss of points and this made things worse for themselves. And now, I see that Inter have another opportunity to open this gap more. Because Milan and Napoli both are going to have very difficult games next time. These games are: Juventus - Napoli, Milan - Roma.
Juventus if win, will put Napoli into a very terrible crisis and they will move another step closer to top 4. Furthermore, Juventus will see lights to challenge AC Milan and Inter Milan. Roma must have point or even win the match with AC Milan in order to keep their hope for a position in top 4. However, AC Milan will not let it happen because they must win it to keep fighting closely with Inter Milan.

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Juventus only left four points from UCL zone and I think looks easy for Juventus back to top position standing again but they need keep consistent on every match, right now Juventus have 34 points and and keep standing on number fifth above Atlanta have 28 points. For first standing position with Inter Milan Juventus left 12 points and I think looks easy if Juventus can win on every match. I hope second half season all team could more competitive and take points on every match.
4 points are not too much and with uncertainty, unstability of above teams, Juventus have due diligent chance to beat either Napoli or Atalanta. If Juventus takes over it, they won't easily to throw it away to other teams. Because they have good and experienced players. Their coach, Max is very smart and experienced. Let's see how Napoli and Atalanta can protect their positions under pressure from Juventus.

Additionally, behind Juventus we have Roma, Fiorentina, Lazio with 32 points an 31 points. Those clubs have only 7 to 8 points less than Napoli. Serie A has a very interesting race for last 2 positions in top 4.
I like with this competition where all club have different little point and lets see second half season where are team most consistent again and keep sty with top position standing. Next match still two weeks later where Serie A competition not playing on cristmast day, I hope Juventus can take first standing position again after last year failed to get trophy and very difficult get one place on champion league before last match success win. I see Inter Milan as team always consistent and beside AC Milan not playing well on every match, some time loss and and win.

I believe that Juventus should buy player’s during January transfer window to ensure that they reach the top 4 spot, because at current rate they may just miss out on champions league football.

Furthermore whichever team strengthens in January transfer window will have the advantage of securing champions league football, hence the interesting question is how much will these teams spend, and will they get their desired player’s once the transfer window opens?.
I think Juventus need new midfielder who give many assist for Dybala and Morata, they less weakness on midfielder area where not any playing have typical like Pjanic where success become Juventus midfielder and always created assist, right now Juventus team always use right and left side for making assist and I think need variant ways for Juventus not only focus with right or left winger side to make assist and need creativity midfielder to create assist maybe like Andrea Pirlo.

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December 25, 2021, 12:31:37 PM
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Inter are in a very great situation now. They are not just dominating the league. In the recent times, their closest opponents to them in the standings had really difficult games too while Inter were having much easier ones. And this was another factor that helped Inter open the gap with them more. However, Inter still showed a much better performance when all of top teams played easier games. Milan and Napoli made simple loss of points and this made things worse for themselves. And now, I see that Inter have another opportunity to open this gap more. Because Milan and Napoli both are going to have very difficult games next time. These games are: Juventus - Napoli, Milan - Roma.

I think currently Intermil's position is not safe enough in the league, because they are only a few point of AC Milan in the second position, Intermilan performance this season is really beyond the predictions of many people who underestimated them at the start of the season, but the consistency of the game shown by Intermilan making them now strong candidates for the championship, in my opinion, Intermilan this season played quite well and they were also quite lucky because rival teams such as Napoli and AC Milan experienced a decline in performance which caused them to lose points, thus making Inter Milan quite easy to become champions half season.

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December 25, 2021, 01:49:28 PM
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Indeed it is hard to talk about Serie A without talking about the king which is Juventus,,, and I know I should say very little because of the whole idea that I only followed this league recently and even so just from the news, but does the scandal of matchfixing involving Juventus make their reputation of winning titles in the relevant years any worse? Just asking from a perspective of an outsider Smiley
The King is coming back silently but they are coming back in reality. AC Milan and Inter Milan have to watch out Juventus very closely. They have good players and a very experienced coach, Max. If AC Milan and Inter Milan can not maintain their good and stable performance, it won't be a big surprise if we see Juventus join the Scudetto race in next 1 to 2 months. They have enough resources and experience to do it.

Did not really answer y question at all but I guess nobody really did,,, so that is okay heh. Juventus will qualify for Top 4 this time I think but not because they are good, because all the others will have a tough time to juggle Europe duty.

Anyway just read Buffon in the news saying Ronaldo killed the soul of Juventus and I think a lot of people can agree. This should be their priority if they care long term.

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December 25, 2021, 02:24:08 PM
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Anyway just read Buffon in the news saying Ronaldo killed the soul of Juventus and I think a lot of people can agree. This should be their priority if they care long term.
He killed the team spirit, for sure. Ronaldo is a superstar and a winner. But he is also a selfish player with a big ego. He comes first, Juventus is second. That's not the way Juventus works. Juventus has a history of winning not because they always had the better players than other teams, but because they sacrificed more and worked harder to correct their flaws. They also had players who loved their team and were proud to present it. Those days are gone now. Juventus invests too much in non-Italians and that won't work. People can't even spell loyalty and they are only interested in the next pay check and bigger contracts.

Juventus' biggest mistake is not a player but a manger. General Manager Giuseppe Marotta (now at Inter). 

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December 25, 2021, 03:21:06 PM
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To be honest, I doubted Juventus would win,

Interesting match, although in the last game Juventus lost it was just a statistic. Juventus have not been good this season. But the chances of winning are always there. Juventus will play at home. They're not a bottom team, I think the game will be exciting. At least this is the moment for Juventus to rise. I think the draw was fair enough for the final result.

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December 25, 2021, 03:23:28 PM
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I just looked at the long-term quotes of Juventus and was very surprised - it looks like the bookmakers consider it the favorite in the fight for the 2nd place:

Serie A 2021/22 - w/o Juventus Turin
Inter - 1.22
Napoli - 7.50
Milan - 7.50
Atalanta - 7.50
https://stake.com/sports/outright/soccer/italy/serie-a/41984153-serie-a-21-22

Did I understand these odds correctly? For me, they look like illogical and I do not believe that Juventus will end the season in 2nd place above all these clubs.

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December 25, 2021, 03:56:51 PM
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Anyway just read Buffon in the news saying Ronaldo killed the soul of Juventus and I think a lot of people can agree. This should be their priority if they care long term.
He killed the team spirit, for sure. Ronaldo is a superstar and a winner. But he is also a selfish player with a big ego. He comes first, Juventus is second. That's not the way Juventus works. Juventus has a history of winning not because they always had the better players than other teams, but because they sacrificed more and worked harder to correct their flaws. They also had players who loved their team and were proud to present it. Those days are gone now. Juventus invests too much in non-Italians and that won't work. People can't even spell loyalty and they are only interested in the next pay check and bigger contracts.

Juventus' biggest mistake is not a player but a manger. General Manager Giuseppe Marotta (now at Inter). 
I think what Buffon said about Cristiano Ronaldo as destroy team working is true, looking with Real Madrid composition player right now and Benzema as top scorer will give proof how Ronaldo as selfish player, all goals have created by him and when attacking counter all player must focus give chance and attempt to Ronaldo than other player. Now Juventus without Ronaldo can working as team not individual again but still need process how Juventus back to the top performance and take good position standing.

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December 25, 2021, 04:11:23 PM
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About Inter, I agree they have achieved in Millenium years, Inter got 5 scudetto in the row, 2005 until 2010. that great achievement. But Milan, only 2003–04, 2010–11. and Juventus is the king of decades, got 9 scudetto in the row between 2011 until 2020. I hope so with Napoli and Roma. so far Napoli is just great in the Maradona era, while Roma in Francisco Totti era in 2000. but for this session, Napoli and Roma will be difficult to beat Inter and Milan on top when they don't build the team in January.

Indeed it is hard to talk about Serie A without talking about the king which is Juventus,,, and I know I should say very little because of the whole idea that I only followed this league recently and even so just from the news, but does the scandal of matchfixing involving Juventus make their reputation of winning titles in the relevant years any worse? Just asking from a perspective of an outsider Smiley

I think that doesn't discredit all the titles that juventus won, they showed that they played well and won the games.



juventus was playing more individually than collectively, they won because they had cristiano ronaldo, but they didn't play as a cohesive team, but now they are gradually improving but there is still a big problem that is in attack, juventus has good defense and That's what's saving them, but they have serious problems in attack, if Juventus manages to have a good player in attack they can even be champions

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December 25, 2021, 04:16:06 PM
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Interesting match, although in the last game Juventus lost it was just a statistic. Juventus have not been good this season. But the chances of winning are always there. Juventus will play at home. They're not a bottom team, I think the game will be exciting. At least this is the moment for Juventus to rise. I think the draw was fair enough for the final result.
It depends on how Juventus will play in coming months and whether the top clubs especially Inter Milan and AC Milan will give chances to Juventus.

AC Milan and Inter Milan might lose many points enough to create good opportunities for Juventus. It is not what Juventus should care of. They must complete their task to win their matches. I don't like how Juventus dominated Serie in 9 seasons but it is good for Serie A to have them in the Scudetto competition. It will create better competitiveness of Serie A and increase quality of the league.

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December 25, 2021, 04:27:17 PM
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Anyway just read Buffon in the news saying Ronaldo killed the soul of Juventus and I think a lot of people can agree. This should be their priority if they care long term.
He killed the team spirit, for sure. Ronaldo is a superstar and a winner. But he is also a selfish player with a big ego. He comes first, Juventus is second. That's not the way Juventus works. Juventus has a history of winning not because they always had the better players than other teams, but because they sacrificed more and worked harder to correct their flaws. They also had players who loved their team and were proud to present it. Those days are gone now. Juventus invests too much in non-Italians and that won't work. People can't even spell loyalty and they are only interested in the next pay check and bigger contracts.

Juventus' biggest mistake is not a player but a manger. General Manager Giuseppe Marotta (now at Inter). 

I will agree with you about Cristiano Ronaldo been selfish, having ego, chasing he's personal record's and goals ahead of Juventus.
I won't say/wouldn't agree on the fact that they lack a coach, take a good look at home Seria A tittles Allegri won with the old ladies.
They lack good players, more of the midfielder's, take a good look at the squad now and the way it was in times when Paul Pogba, Andrea Pirlo all played, much difference.
Allegri can still do the job, he needs to build a stronger team to come stronger.

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December 25, 2021, 04:27:31 PM
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Anyway just read Buffon in the news saying Ronaldo killed the soul of Juventus and I think a lot of people can agree. This should be their priority if they care long term.
He killed the team spirit, for sure. Ronaldo is a superstar and a winner. But he is also a selfish player with a big ego. He comes first, Juventus is second. That's not the way Juventus works. Juventus has a history of winning not because they always had the better players than other teams, but because they sacrificed more and worked harder to correct their flaws. They also had players who loved their team and were proud to present it. Those days are gone now. Juventus invests too much in non-Italians and that won't work. People can't even spell loyalty and they are only interested in the next pay check and bigger contracts.

Juventus' biggest mistake is not a player but a manger. General Manager Giuseppe Marotta (now at Inter). 
I think what Buffon said about Cristiano Ronaldo as destroy team working is true, looking with Real Madrid composition player right now and Benzema as top scorer will give proof how Ronaldo as selfish player, all goals have created by him and when attacking counter all player must focus give chance and attempt to Ronaldo than other player. Now Juventus without Ronaldo can working as team not individual again but still need process how Juventus back to the top performance and take good position standing.

Buffon is right in some words for Ronaldo but Ronaldo is a hardcore winner and he will do anything to score a goal and win matches and titles for him its all about records. Seen a video of Ronaldo getting angry at his teammates because they got knocked out of the champions league because they didnt play good at all. We could now see that Ronaldo was really an important player for Juventus,now they cannot due anything in the league.

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December 25, 2021, 04:36:52 PM
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Interesting match, although in the last game Juventus lost it was just a statistic. Juventus have not been good this season. But the chances of winning are always there. Juventus will play at home. They're not a bottom team, I think the game will be exciting. At least this is the moment for Juventus to rise. I think the draw was fair enough for the final result.
Juventus managed to improve their performance and maintain a consistent victory in the last few matches because previously Juventus had suffered 5 defeats and 4 draws from a total of 19 match. For Juventus vs Napoli, I think both teams still have a chance to win regardless of who will be the favourite. Even though Napoli dropped quite a lot of points of late but they are still very strong as a team. So Juventus need to be careful with Napoli if they are to aim for victory.

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December 25, 2021, 05:04:14 PM
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Anyway just read Buffon in the news saying Ronaldo killed the soul of Juventus and I think a lot of people can agree. This should be their priority if they care long term.
He killed the team spirit, for sure. Ronaldo is a superstar and a winner. But he is also a selfish player with a big ego. He comes first, Juventus is second. That's not the way Juventus works. Juventus has a history of winning not because they always had the better players than other teams, but because they sacrificed more and worked harder to correct their flaws. They also had players who loved their team and were proud to present it. Those days are gone now. Juventus invests too much in non-Italians and that won't work. People can't even spell loyalty and they are only interested in the next pay check and bigger contracts.

Juventus' biggest mistake is not a player but a manger. General Manager Giuseppe Marotta (now at Inter). 

I will agree with you about Cristiano Ronaldo been selfish, having ego, chasing he's personal record's and goals ahead of Juventus.
I won't say/wouldn't agree on the fact that they lack a coach, take a good look at home Seria A tittles Allegri won with the old ladies.
They lack good players, more of the midfielder's, take a good look at the squad now and the way it was in times when Paul Pogba, Andrea Pirlo all played, much difference.
Allegri can still do the job, he needs to build a stronger team to come stronger.

I still think that the biggest problem for juventus is in attack, they need to have some players to score goals, and that's what they need in my opinion. I don't know what the coach and club direction will do about this problem of lack of goal-scoring players, but they should take it seriously if they want to go far in Serie A

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