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October 14, 2022, 09:11:36 AM
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Giving him more time means if team was betting the reputation from the team. I meant if he can bring juventus to the win streak and that must not be a problem otherwise if juventus will face more lose streak and then he will put juventus into the worst situation.
It seems like management didn't even consider about this. that's why they are still believing in allegri. This may become a boomerang for allegri too. I think that this gonna be a problem for allegri if juventus will continue to show bad performance.
Honestly I have a big question why Juventus haven't decided how they are with Allegri, because if the situation gets worse it will be difficult for the new coach to fix it (if they decide to sack Allegri). I initially believed that Allegri still deserved to be given a chance, but I saw him unable to show improvement. Trust in Allegri is now shattered by what he did with Juventus.
Currently Allegri still has a contract until 2025 and with his salary of 13 million per season it is clear that this is still a problem for Juventus if they do sack him now, especially at this time they still have a worrying financial condition.
With things like this, Juventus officials can only hope that Allegri will resign from his position voluntarily and let his salary for 4 years of his contract be removed, even though this sounds quite difficult to realize.

But if their condition continues like this, it will also be very unfortunate, especially since they currently have a squad that is actually quite capable of competing.

Allegri will never resign and he is even more excited even though the Juventus team is not doing well and needs a more precise strategy to win. Allegri is excited that Juventus can still present the best match and improve things.
conditions like this are indeed a difficult condition for juventus, successive defeats will certainly make juventus eliminated and have no more chance. Juventus' next match will be against Torino, of course juventus must win, otherwise Juventus will miss many points and go down the standings.

In my opinion , Allegri should leave as soon as possible from Juve and start a new chapter in his coach life , away from Serie A , like Conte did. Rumors that Conte will be back are non-sense because he is super happy at Spurs and players already formed a shield upon him so he won't leave anytime soon from there + Spurs kept their important players for him by not selling neither Kane or Son. The best solution for Juve , would be to somehow bring Tuchel as a coach , but it's a difficult task as he doesn't want to coach right now.

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October 14, 2022, 09:22:35 AM
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I would say this match is more important for Allegri than Juventus. Because if Juventus is not able to win against a relatively weak team, the pressure on Allegri will increase. And Juventus management may now decide to fire him. Because, Juventus management has given Allegri enough opportunities. But Allegri has repeatedly failed. But it seems that Juventus will be able to win this time.
Juventus management is still cold to Allegri by giving him a chance despite the fact that he deserves to be fired from the Juventus coach. The bad results that Juventus continue to achieve due to Allegri not being able to mix up the Juventus squad properly, in the hands of Allegri Juventus are like without direction.

Juventus, who just got two painful blows in the away match, had to play the derby against Torino, and they will again play in the opponent's cage. Last week Juventus were defeated by AC Milan and after that in the middle of last week Juventus were again defeated by Maccabi Haifa in the UCL Group elimination, in these two matches Juventus lost with an identical score of 0-2. If in the away match this time Juventus again lost points, Allegri had to say goodbye to Juventus.

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October 14, 2022, 09:59:17 AM
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I would say this match is more important for Allegri than Juventus. Because if Juventus is not able to win against a relatively weak team, the pressure on Allegri will increase. And Juventus management may now decide to fire him. Because, Juventus management has given Allegri enough opportunities. But Allegri has repeatedly failed. But it seems that Juventus will be able to win this time.
Juventus management is still cold to Allegri by giving him a chance despite the fact that he deserves to be fired from the Juventus coach. The bad results that Juventus continue to achieve due to Allegri not being able to mix up the Juventus squad properly, in the hands of Allegri Juventus are like without direction.

Juventus, who just got two painful blows in the away match, had to play the derby against Torino, and they will again play in the opponent's cage. Last week Juventus were defeated by AC Milan and after that in the middle of last week Juventus were again defeated by Maccabi Haifa in the UCL Group elimination, in these two matches Juventus lost with an identical score of 0-2. If in the away match this time Juventus again lost points, Allegri had to say goodbye to Juventus.

Losing by Milan I can still accept, but losing by Maccabi Haifa was an unacceptable loss and should not have happened. Juventus are very patient and kind because there is still no decision or even rumors to sack Allegri, I don't know what they expect from Allegri because they still provide an opportunity to coach Juventus. The derby match can be a difficult match for Juventus with their condition like this, because Torino when against Juventus can be very strong even though they are ranked below Juventus. Therefore, I personally still don't believe Juventus will win in the derby match against Torino, and will try to choose Torino to win at this moment.

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October 14, 2022, 11:14:21 AM
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Salvatore Bocchetti is the new coach of italian serie a club hellas verona, succeeding Gabriele Cioffi who was sacked on tuesday. after ending his playing career in 2021, S. Bocchetti worked as an assistant coach at verona last season. hellas announced the sacking of G. Cioffi on tuesday after a poor start to the season with just 1 win from 9 games.

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October 14, 2022, 11:17:53 AM
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I would say this match is more important for Allegri than Juventus. Because if Juventus is not able to win against a relatively weak team, the pressure on Allegri will increase. And Juventus management may now decide to fire him. Because, Juventus management has given Allegri enough opportunities. But Allegri has repeatedly failed. But it seems that Juventus will be able to win this time.
Juventus management is still cold to Allegri by giving him a chance despite the fact that he deserves to be fired from the Juventus coach. The bad results that Juventus continue to achieve due to Allegri not being able to mix up the Juventus squad properly, in the hands of Allegri Juventus are like without direction.

Juventus, who just got two painful blows in the away match, had to play the derby against Torino, and they will again play in the opponent's cage. Last week Juventus were defeated by AC Milan and after that in the middle of last week Juventus were again defeated by Maccabi Haifa in the UCL Group elimination, in these two matches Juventus lost with an identical score of 0-2. If in the away match this time Juventus again lost points, Allegri had to say goodbye to Juventus.

Losing by Milan I can still accept, but losing by Maccabi Haifa was an unacceptable loss and should not have happened. Juventus are very patient and kind because there is still no decision or even rumors to sack Allegri, I don't know what they expect from Allegri because they still provide an opportunity to coach Juventus. The derby match can be a difficult match for Juventus with their condition like this, because Torino when against Juventus can be very strong even though they are ranked below Juventus. Therefore, I personally still don't believe Juventus will win in the derby match against Torino, and will try to choose Torino to win at this moment.

@hahay my theory is that Juventus are giving him time till the World Cup begins, because even if they fire him now the new coach won’t have much time to galvanise this Juventus side. Furthermore I feel that his day’s are numbered and even if Juventus wins this game, he’ll yet be sacked by the start of the January window because they clearly need a new coach who can push them to reclaim their lost glory day’s.
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October 14, 2022, 11:49:42 AM
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Juventus had to be knocked out of the top flight and is now only ranked 8th in the standings. Very disappointing for this big team in Serie A. Allegri was in the spotlight of a series of bad results achieved by Juventus, many parties pressed for Juventus to immediately take a decision to fire Allegri. 2 defeats and 2 draws in the last 5 matches is a bad record for Juventus.

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October 14, 2022, 11:58:40 AM
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Juventus had to be knocked out of the top flight and is now only ranked 8th in the standings. Very disappointing for this big team in Serie A. Allegri was in the spotlight of a series of bad results achieved by Juventus, many parties pressed for Juventus to immediately take a decision to fire Allegri. 2 defeats and 2 draws in the last 5 matches is a bad record for Juventus.

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October 14, 2022, 01:39:14 PM
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I don't know what the Juventus owner saw in Allegri so he was not willing to change the Juventus coach until now, many great coaches can be obtained for free such as tuchel or zidane temporarily managing Juventus. Napoli's performance is so much better (in series A or in UCL) when compared to Juve and this is really beyond expectation.
Juventus has been making the worst decision by still allowing allegri to manage the club. I don't know what position that will be achieved by the club at the end of season. There's no reason for juventus to use allegri anymore. It seems like juventus will be sacked allegri if juventus will face another just like 5 -10 loses in a row. What a very bad decision by the club. This club just like a mediocre club.
That's right, Juventus in the Ionian season looked like an ordinary club even though the money they spent in the transfer market was not small and even Juventus are one of the teams that spend a lot of money to buy players and pay their players. In fact, I really salute Napoli and Atalanta, who don't spend a lot of money but have extraordinary quality of play, I'm sure this season belongs to Napoli, they will be the rulers of Serie A and maybe Napoli will be a big threat to the big teams who playing at UCL.

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October 14, 2022, 01:56:01 PM
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Allegri will never resign and he is even more excited even though the Juventus team is not doing well and needs a more precise strategy to win. Allegri is excited that Juventus can still present the best match and improve things.
conditions like this are indeed a difficult condition for juventus, successive defeats will certainly make juventus eliminated and have no more chance. Juventus' next match will be against Torino, of course juventus must win, otherwise Juventus will miss many points and go down the standings.

In my opinion , Allegri should leave as soon as possible from Juve and start a new chapter in his coach life , away from Serie A , like Conte did. Rumors that Conte will be back are non-sense because he is super happy at Spurs and players already formed a shield upon him so he won't leave anytime soon from there + Spurs kept their important players for him by not selling neither Kane or Son. The best solution for Juve , would be to somehow bring Tuchel as a coach , but it's a difficult task as he doesn't want to coach right now.
Juventus is difficult to fire Allegri, but Allegri also will not simply resign from his coaching chair. We do not blame who has to make the decision because it is a contract that has been agreed by both parties. I doubt Allegri will step down with nothing, because that would be a loss for him. On the other hand, if Juventus keep him I'm afraid they will sink further down the table. It is not easy to make a decision, unless both parties can negotiate and find the best way.

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October 14, 2022, 02:35:25 PM
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I would say this match is more important for Allegri than Juventus. Because if Juventus is not able to win against a relatively weak team, the pressure on Allegri will increase. And Juventus management may now decide to fire him. Because, Juventus management has given Allegri enough opportunities. But Allegri has repeatedly failed. But it seems that Juventus will be able to win this time.
Juventus management is still cold to Allegri by giving him a chance despite the fact that he deserves to be fired from the Juventus coach. The bad results that Juventus continue to achieve due to Allegri not being able to mix up the Juventus squad properly, in the hands of Allegri Juventus are like without direction.

Juventus, who just got two painful blows in the away match, had to play the derby against Torino, and they will again play in the opponent's cage. Last week Juventus were defeated by AC Milan and after that in the middle of last week Juventus were again defeated by Maccabi Haifa in the UCL Group elimination, in these two matches Juventus lost with an identical score of 0-2. If in the away match this time Juventus again lost points, Allegri had to say goodbye to Juventus.

Losing by Milan I can still accept, but losing by Maccabi Haifa was an unacceptable loss and should not have happened. Juventus are very patient and kind because there is still no decision or even rumors to sack Allegri, I don't know what they expect from Allegri because they still provide an opportunity to coach Juventus. The derby match can be a difficult match for Juventus with their condition like this, because Torino when against Juventus can be very strong even though they are ranked below Juventus. Therefore, I personally still don't believe Juventus will win in the derby match against Torino, and will try to choose Torino to win at this moment.

@hahay my theory is that Juventus are giving him time till the World Cup begins, because even if they fire him now the new coach won’t have much time to galvanise this Juventus side. Furthermore I feel that his day’s are numbered and even if Juventus wins this game, he’ll yet be sacked by the start of the January window because they clearly need a new coach who can push them to reclaim their lost glory day’s.
There are at least a few theories as to why Juventus didn't sack Allegri up until now, but I really don't care about the theories because Juventus are so screwed right now and Allegri can't fix this. Because so far, when the big teams get bad results that keep repeating and will even be eliminated from the Champions League. So the team would have rushed or planned to find a new coach, but Juventus didn't do that and it looks like they are fine with such a dilapidated condition.

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October 14, 2022, 03:06:34 PM
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I don't know what the Juventus owner saw in Allegri so he was not willing to change the Juventus coach until now, many great coaches can be obtained for free such as tuchel or zidane temporarily managing Juventus. Napoli's performance is so much better (in series A or in UCL) when compared to Juve and this is really beyond expectation.
Juventus has been making the worst decision by still allowing allegri to manage the club. I don't know what position that will be achieved by the club at the end of season. There's no reason for juventus to use allegri anymore. It seems like juventus will be sacked allegri if juventus will face another just like 5 -10 loses in a row. What a very bad decision by the club. This club just like a mediocre club.
That's right, Juventus in the Ionian season looked like an ordinary club even though the money they spent in the transfer market was not small and even Juventus are one of the teams that spend a lot of money to buy players and pay their players. In fact, I really salute Napoli and Atalanta, who don't spend a lot of money but have extraordinary quality of play, I'm sure this season belongs to Napoli, they will be the rulers of Serie A and maybe Napoli will be a big threat to the big teams who playing at UCL.
They spent a lot of money, but haven't been able to play the players they brought in because some of them are injured. Even though they can play, their performance is still far from what is expected. Now the situation is complicated when they are in very bad shape. Always with negative results they get so many supporters they urge the Management to take immediate decisions to improve their performance. They were favorites at the start of the season, but now they are a team that always loses.

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October 14, 2022, 03:54:59 PM
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Juventus is difficult to fire Allegri, but Allegri also will not simply resign from his coaching chair. We do not blame who has to make the decision because it is a contract that has been agreed by both parties. I doubt Allegri will step down with nothing, because that would be a loss for him. On the other hand, if Juventus keep him I'm afraid they will sink further down the table. It is not easy to make a decision, unless both parties can negotiate and find the best way.
Allegri knew that Juventus did not have the courage to dismiss him directly because it would present a very high risk and could even spend the money owned by Juventus because of course they have to provide rights such as severance pay in the form of very large amounts of money, Juventus management must be able to accept it with the fact is that this season they can't perform well.

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October 14, 2022, 04:01:59 PM
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I don't know what the Juventus owner saw in Allegri so he was not willing to change the Juventus coach until now, many great coaches can be obtained for free such as tuchel or zidane temporarily managing Juventus. Napoli's performance is so much better (in series A or in UCL) when compared to Juve and this is really beyond expectation.
Juventus has been making the worst decision by still allowing allegri to manage the club. I don't know what position that will be achieved by the club at the end of season. There's no reason for juventus to use allegri anymore. It seems like juventus will be sacked allegri if juventus will face another just like 5 -10 loses in a row. What a very bad decision by the club. This club just like a mediocre club.
That's right, Juventus in the Ionian season looked like an ordinary club even though the money they spent in the transfer market was not small and even Juventus are one of the teams that spend a lot of money to buy players and pay their players. In fact, I really salute Napoli and Atalanta, who don't spend a lot of money but have extraordinary quality of play, I'm sure this season belongs to Napoli, they will be the rulers of Serie A and maybe Napoli will be a big threat to the big teams who playing at UCL.
They spent a lot of money, but haven't been able to play the players they brought in because some of them are injured. Even though they can play, their performance is still far from what is expected. Now the situation is complicated when they are in very bad shape. Always with negative results they get so many supporters they urge the Management to take immediate decisions to improve their performance. They were favorites at the start of the season, but now they are a team that always loses.

Juventus spent a lot of money but they made mistakes in choosing the right players for their squad. They added Di Maria and Pogba to the squad. Those who are not able to play consistently well. Di Maria can perform well when the team needs him, but he has fitness issues. On the other hand, in the last few seasons, we have not had good performances from Pogba. Still why Juventus signed one of Pogba's players is beyond me. Juventus are now paying the price for their mistakes. Their position is now eighth in the points table.

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October 14, 2022, 04:33:23 PM
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Losing by Milan I can still accept, but losing by Maccabi Haifa was an unacceptable loss and should not have happened. Juventus are very patient and kind because there is still no decision or even rumors to sack Allegri, I don't know what they expect from Allegri because they still provide an opportunity to coach Juventus. The derby match can be a difficult match for Juventus with their condition like this, because Torino when against Juventus can be very strong even though they are ranked below Juventus. Therefore, I personally still don't believe Juventus will win in the derby match against Torino, and will try to choose Torino to win at this moment.
Juventus is not patient about how many time bad result achievement, losing from Milan at domestic league and continues losing on Champion League from Maccabi Haifa. Classic reason why keep extended Allegri because Juventus have to pay compensation if want sacking with contract expired on 2025, need spent much compensation have to pay by Juventus if want to sack Allegri. Patience and watching Juventus left many points from first standing at domestic league and almost failure at champion league is the moment enjoyed by Juventus fans.

Better forget with how much compensation have to pay because still have chance for Juventus at domestic league to get tittle after last two years failure with Scudetto. left 29 match later I think still have chance for Juventus changed their performance if have new manager replace Allegri position.


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October 14, 2022, 05:05:11 PM
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I'm not sure if that's a good reason, because if Juventus lose their place in the Champions League next year, it will cost a lot more than any compensation for breaking the contract with Allegri.
All in all, I think that the game against Torino can confirm my suspicions - if the players want Allegri to be sacked, then we will see some amazing result.

I have been saying this for a long time ago and I really don't think the bad performance of Juventus is only because of the fault of Allegri. He did well to make a good team before the start of the season. But the players that he brought in getting injured. Now I really don't think that it's his fault.

I think that the team should have been performing well compared to what they have been doing anyway. It is not the fault of the coach that they are not being able to form any kind of coordinated attack on the field. Even if the coach is doing very bad with the tactics I think Juventus is a team that has the players to do much better.

Yes, Allegri is still the coach of Juventus just because they don't have enough money to sack him. But we have to understand that the coach is not going to go to the field and play for the players. And if we just look at how Juventus have been playing we have to agree that this is not because the coach set bad tactics only.

That's a moot point. But in football it is customary to put the blame on the coach when having qualified players does not result. It is his job to establish interaction between them in such a way that each shows his best qualities.
Even taking into account injuries, is Juventus have a worse squad than Benfica? Or maybe even worse than Maccabi? I doubt it. In general, even if the players do not want to play it is his fault.

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October 14, 2022, 05:11:11 PM
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Allegri knew that Juventus did not have the courage to dismiss him directly because it would present a very high risk and could even spend the money owned by Juventus because of course they have to provide rights such as severance pay in the form of very large amounts of money, Juventus management must be able to accept it with the fact is that this season they can't perform well.
The next break should be a return trip for Juventus to regain their form. Things are not going well for Juventus at the moment, but they are a team that has a way of getting their form back. I feel confident about that, and a team that is playing well at the moment won't always be able to keep it in shape. Juventus have to deal with the problem of their players' injuries, it has affected their performance and match results.

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October 14, 2022, 05:20:47 PM
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In my opinion , Allegri should leave as soon as possible from Juve and start a new chapter in his coach life , away from Serie A , like Conte did. Rumors that Conte will be back are non-sense because he is super happy at Spurs and players already formed a shield upon him so he won't leave anytime soon from there + Spurs kept their important players for him by not selling neither Kane or Son. The best solution for Juve , would be to somehow bring Tuchel as a coach , but it's a difficult task as he doesn't want to coach right now.

Allegri has done much harm to Juventus as a team, I don’t believe Juventus to still be in this position at this time of the league. Considering Thomas Tuchel to take his position, he has already rejected two offers from English teams maybe he probably want a job out the English teams. Taking up the job of Allegri wouldn’t be a bad idea, only if he’ll be considered for it after Allegri is been let go off his current job as the manager.

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October 14, 2022, 05:25:41 PM
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Allegri knew that Juventus did not have the courage to dismiss him directly because it would present a very high risk and could even spend the money owned by Juventus because of course they have to provide rights such as severance pay in the form of very large amounts of money, Juventus management must be able to accept it with the fact is that this season they can't perform well.
The next break should be a return trip for Juventus to regain their form. Things are not going well for Juventus at the moment, but they are a team that has a way of getting their form back. I feel confident about that, and a team that is playing well at the moment won't always be able to keep it in shape. Juventus have to deal with the problem of their players' injuries, it has affected their performance and match results.
If you want to return to the form of Juventus before then of course there must be changes, I think the coach also influenced him he should be sacked because he has suffered a lot of defeats this is not a good season for Juventus with Allegri still able to be kept I don't think this will be good thing except the rotation where the point of his fault Juventus went bad.
Injured players certainly affect it but it's not a problem, everything remains the key to the main thing in coach Allegri.

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October 14, 2022, 05:33:46 PM
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As mentioned by juvefc.com, if Juventus will see the progress of Juventus game until November 14, where on this date, Juventus will meet Lazio. From this week until that date, in Serie A, Juventus has actually not met strong team, except for Inter Milan and Lazio. The rest are against lower and middle-tier teams. However, the tight schedule and the results of playing in the UCL can affect the performance of Juventus players in Serie A. Maybe, if from 6 Serie A matches until November 14, Juventus managed to win 5 matches, Allegri could stay at Juventus. On the other hand, if it's less than 50% of the matches I think the chances for Allegri to be sacked are more open.

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October 14, 2022, 05:34:08 PM
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The next break should be a return trip for Juventus to regain their form. Things are not going well for Juventus at the moment, but they are a team that has a way of getting their form back. I feel confident about that, and a team that is playing well at the moment won't always be able to keep it in shape. Juventus have to deal with the problem of their players' injuries, it has affected their performance and match results.

At a point, I thought that it was for the fact that Ronaldo left Juventus that they had their form dropped. It's seems true though to some, not me. Juventus  has been having big difficulties way back: even in the days when platini played the whole pitch and made conquering performances against any team, they were still found wondering when they lost their form, however.
now, I still believe that they'll regain back their position rightfully and even more, when their players are fully recovered.



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