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April 22, 2023, 07:50:23 PM
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Don't be a fool the point of Juventus will be probably removed again.

Meanwhile Lazio lost Vs Torino
In fact, we would not be surprised if one day Juventus were punished again because from the start this decision was only a form of planned joke because the FIGC did not have strong evidence in making a decision.

Yes, Lazio have lost again even though they were quite perfect in the previous match. This defeat also ended the winning streak they had recorded. even this defeat will lead to a more interesting competition in the upcoming matches in maintaining the top 4 ranking

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April 22, 2023, 08:06:52 PM
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Sampdoria on a 1-0 lead but it comes much too late in the season to avert relegation. An unexpected defeat of Lazio at home against Torino, no one would have thought that possible, we can say? Juventus can jump over Lazio Roma again. 3 teams relegated from Serie A, that's a lot. sampdoria has now also fallen so far behind that relegation can no longer be avoided in this way. And Torino have a solid season and are safe. Looking up at Europe is not an option. Torino was really a top team in Italy in the 90s, but due to unknown reasons, it dropped out of the sub-top in Italy.

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April 22, 2023, 08:44:39 PM
Last edit: April 22, 2023, 09:05:46 PM by Zlantann
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Sampdoria vs Spezia, first half Sampdoria managed to win 1-0 from Amione's goal. the match was quite balanced even though Sampdoria still lost in possession. Spezia is better in possession but they don't have a good strategy to set up an attack.
Sampdoria who are at the bottom of the standings put on a good game in the first half. if the final result does not change, it will not affect the standings. but the situation will leave Spezia vulnerable enough to fall into the relegation zone.

The game is now at the final ten minutes of the match and the score is now 1-1 to Verde who gave Spezia in the 59th minute. Sampdoria is getting all the support from the home fans but Spezia is putting up a better performance. They have more goals on target and better ball possession than Sampdoria. Both teams need this win but I think Sampdoria needs a win more because it still has the opportunity to escape relegation. Spezia is above the relegation zone but they still need this win to solidify their position to enable them to remain in the Seria A next season.


In fact, we would not be surprised if one day Juventus were punished again because from the start this decision was only a form of planned joke. After all, the FIGC did not have strong evidence in making a decision.

The Italian National Olympic Committee (CONI) just ordered a retrial of the allegation against the club after Juventus filed an appeal. So the court reversed the 15 points till after the investigation. After investigation, if they are found guilty, it might attract the reversal of the suspension of the point deduction or more severe punishment will follow but if they are innocent, the Champions league is sure.

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April 22, 2023, 09:15:32 PM
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Lazio really has squandered their chance to add points against Torino. Because surprisingly Lazio even had to feel defeat by Torino. With this defeat, it is tantamount to giving an advantage to Juventus. Because the difference in points between Juventus and Lazio is currently getting thinner. Lazio must pray that Juventus will suffer defeat by Napoli in tomorrow's match.
I know this defeat hurts especially playing at home against Torino but it won't change anything or only benefit in terms of the standings while they will still be in the top 4 standings zone and of course that is the place where they will qualify for the UCL next season.

So Lazio will not be too worried because this is not a big problem for him, just an unlucky defeat maybe for Lazio.

Meanwhile, the big advantage for Juventus is the addition of points back after the sanctions were cancelled, when tomorrow against Napoli it's not necessarily a win because I believe Napoli are still quite consistent even though they failed in the UCL and are now more focused on Serie A even though so far Napoli are still far away points with other teams.

No need to pray dude they stay safe for Champions League tickets.

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Inter have been in a really bad shape in the Serie A. It has been so many weeks since they got their last win in the league and this is getting more serious for them day by day. Because Juventus are back in top four after the most recent decision about their points deduction. This pushed Milan and Inter both out of top four of course. Inter have been focused on the Champions League the most in the recent times. Because they have a possibility to even qualify for the final stage there depending on if they eliminate Milan.

But while doing this they didn't care about their league matches here and they are five points away from top four now. I don't think they can win the Champions League title at all so they had better do their best in the Serie A to qualify for the Champions League again. Otherwise I wouldn't call this season very successful for Inter even if they become the finalists in the Champions League.

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April 22, 2023, 09:24:35 PM
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I do not understand what happend to Sassuolo because if they playing against strong teams Sassuolo seems had strong motivation to win and Roma, Juventus and Atalanta has been defeated by them but if Sassuolo against weak teams it seems they were lost their motivation to win and before Salernitana who can able to beat them Verona also has successfully to collect 3 points from them

For Salernitana this result is really important for them because currently they have 7 difference points above to the teams in the relegation zone but i think their positions still not fully safe especially Salernitana had hard schedules because after this match they have to faced some of strong teams such as Napoli, Atalanta and Roma so Salernitana have to hard struggle to avoiding relegation zone
I also don't understand if see at the history of Sassuolo matches, and they should be able to scored in that game vs Salernitana, but not. Actually Salernitana also isn't a weak teams, they have managed to defend very well in their last few matches and got one point against Inter and Ac Milan.

Yes for Salernitana this result really important, because they will against Napoli next match, right now Napoli will also focus on Serie A, after being defeated by Milan in UCL. So it's possible that Salernitana won't get any points in that match, but hopefully Salernitana can continue their good trend later, because currently also they have a good record in 8 matches without lose.

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April 22, 2023, 09:27:03 PM
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The game against Napoli is very important for Juventus because they need to themselves near the top of the table and decrease the gap between them and Lazio in the second position of the table while they are playing against Napoli and Napoli is a team they didn't lose many games during this season and in the last game, these two teams had, Napoli won the game with a 5-1 result.
The odds see Napoli as the favorite. Win Napoli x2.55 and a win Juventus x2.9. But if you look at the games of Napoli against AC Milan, then Juventus should have a good chance to win the game. And the 15 points Juventus got back, motivation should be very high. Lazio lost there game today and if Juventus wins, then they are on 2nd place in the league. Putting some money on Juventus should make more sense than Napoli... they just have a few more points after all. That they will win the league soon, i think.

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April 22, 2023, 09:32:00 PM
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Sampdoria vs Spezia, first half Sampdoria managed to win 1-0 from Amione's goal. the match was quite balanced even though Sampdoria still lost in possession. Spezia is better in possession but they don't have a good strategy to set up an attack.
Sampdoria who are at the bottom of the standings put on a good game in the first half. if the final result does not change, it will not affect the standings. but the situation will leave Spezia vulnerable enough to fall into the relegation zone.
The match ended in a draw in this match.
Spezia's second half completely reversed the conditions where they were in control to get points in this match.
The two teams actually have the same condition where they are lacking in finishing but by sharing 1 point in this match, this is clearly something good for Spezia even though her position is currently threatened.

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April 22, 2023, 09:42:08 PM
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Lazio is loosing right now and this will make things interesting in fight for Champions League for next season. Lazio is playing Inter next match and with Inter wining those 2games they would be only 4points  behind Lazio and that would open the fight for top 4 places.
Yes, Lazio is defeated, it is surprising and makes them to lose their position in 2nd place. If Juventus wins the match against Napoli, they will be in 2nd place. The next 3 matches will be difficult matches for Lazio (against Inter, Sassuolo, AC Milan), they may lose the chance to finish in UCL zone if they got losses in the next 3 matches. I agree that it becomes more interesting, all the top teams have the chance to fight for UCL zone. Lets see which the top teams to stay in the top 4 in the next 3 matches.  Grin


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April 22, 2023, 10:07:40 PM
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Lazio is loosing right now and this will make things interesting in fight for Champions League for next season. Lazio is playing Inter next match and with Inter wining those 2games they would be only 4points  behind Lazio and that would open the fight for top 4 places.
Yes, Lazio is defeated, it is surprising and makes them to lose their position in 2nd place. If Juventus wins the match against Napoli, they will be in 2nd place. The next 3 matches will be difficult matches for Lazio (against Inter, Sassuolo, AC Milan), they may lose the chance to finish in UCL zone if they got losses in the next 3 matches. I agree that it becomes more interesting, all the top teams have the chance to fight for UCL zone. Lets see which the top teams to stay in the top 4 in the next 3 matches.  Grin


Things changed for Lazio after Juventus regained their 15 points. a few weeks ago we thought that Lazio was safe enough to rank 2 but with the presence of Juventus ranked 3 at this time it must have put Lazio under pressure. And Lazio's defeat by Torino opened up greater opportunities for Juventus to take 2nd place. Lazio will indeed have a difficult match in the next few weeks. But this is what makes Serie A this season even more interesting. The intense competition between these top teams will continue until the end of the season. But I raju Juventus will win against Napoli. because in the last meeting Juventus vs Napoli. we can see Napoli winning hands down this time with a big score.

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April 22, 2023, 10:17:18 PM
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After Juventus Turin got their points back, we are going to start off the weekend with two big games here. Atalanta has the most important game of the season against Roma because if they win it, everything will still be possible, but if they lose it there is no hope left for the Champions League qualifiers.

The other interesting game is Juventus against Napoli. For Juventus this would be a huge step towards securing their starting spot in the cl, but I am curious to see how Napoli is going to do after that tough loss against Milan. They are winning the title anyway, but are they going to show some character? I could understand if they kind of fall into a hole now, but I hope that they still know what they achieved and try to score the full 99 points that are still possible.
With the suddenly given reclaim of 15-deducted points, Juventus now are very safely at the third position and they are advantage of Roma, AC Milan, Inter Milan and Atalanta in the top four competition. They even can catch Lazio with only two points less and this match day is important for many clubs to say good bye to their hope in the competition like Atalanta or to secure their positions like Juventus and Roma.

Both Juventus and Roma, especially Roma, just had very tough matches in second legs in Europa League quarter finals. They will not return to Serie A with full fitness but the league is going and they will have disadvantage than Napoli and Atalanta which have more rest days. Napoli had a match in Champions League quarter final too but they have a bit more days to recharge energy than Juventus.

With only Serie A left, Napoli will chase for the title as soon as possible but this big match with Juventus is important for their pride. They can beat Juventus to prove that they are still a strongest team in Serie A.

Now that Lazio lost their game, Juventus even has the chance to take the second spot in the table. Imagine if after all the drama that Juventus now went through they actually finish the season as 2nd, win the Europa League and qualify for the Champions League, most people people wouldn't even be talking about a catastrophe anymore.

If they then even manage to convince Zidane as their next coach, there is almost nothing else you can ask and hope for as a soccer club. I have heard, yes only rumors, that Zidane said he would even be ok to accept a few years of restructuring the team even if they miss the qualification for Euro competitions. I have my doubts that that is true, but if it is, it would be huge for Juventus.

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Things changed for Lazio after Juventus regained their 15 points. a few weeks ago we thought that Lazio was safe enough to rank 2 but with the presence of Juventus ranked 3 at this time it must have put Lazio under pressure. And Lazio's defeat by Torino opened up greater opportunities for Juventus to take 2nd place. Lazio will indeed have a difficult match in the next few weeks. But this is what makes Serie A this season even more interesting. The intense competition between these top teams will continue until the end of the season. But I raju Juventus will win against Napoli. because in the last meeting Juventus vs Napoli. we can see Napoli winning hands down this time with a big score.
Now Juventus is a real threat in terms of gaining points, especially considering their current conditions, their points are also 2 points away from the condition that Juventus still has 1 game remaining.
But even though that's actually not a problem I think, in the end, position 2 or 3 is still the same for the Champions League zone.

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The game against Napoli is very important for Juventus because they need to themselves near the top of the table and decrease the gap between them and Lazio in the second position of the table while they are playing against Napoli and Napoli is a team they didn't lose many games during this season and in the last game, these two teams had, Napoli won the game with a 5-1 result.
Napoli will not be able to lock the trophy as soon as possible if it will still lose in the upcoming match. Napoli needs a good result to be done as soon as possible. it's caused by the only way for napoli to take serie a's title by winning the upcoming match. The match against juventus gonna be a tough match for sure. Juventus has no burden against napoli. Juventus is able going all in napoli. Napoli must have fully prepared when it will be facing juventus very soon. I think that osimhen will be used to make sure napoli will able to secure full points against juventus at this moment. Napoli and juventus really need three points at this moment.

Juventus may also try to prepare the best line up to face napoli very soon. I can't even deny the fact that if napoli is not as strong as during the early until the mid season.
Some loses against acmilan may also give mentality impact to the napoli. Napoli was losing against ac milan in a rows. it's unacceptable result for the fans if napoli will not get a trophy this season.

Spalletti must have tought which gonna be the best strategy to be used against juventus. It's likely that if osimhen will be fully playing against juventus.


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April 22, 2023, 10:30:02 PM
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It is incredible how Gravina now invented a new rule to remove the red card from Lukaku to allow him to play against Juventus in the second leg of the Coppia Italia.
It seems that football law in serie A and italian football as a whole are always negotiable lol

First ... the 15 points that earlier got deducted have been returned to juventus who now sit third in serie A table. Funny law and pretty fair enough for those who have someone inside the institution to negotiate with.

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April 22, 2023, 10:44:12 PM
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Things changed for Lazio after Juventus regained their 15 points. a few weeks ago we thought that Lazio was safe enough to rank 2 but with the presence of Juventus ranked 3 at this time it must have put Lazio under pressure. And Lazio's defeat by Torino opened up greater opportunities for Juventus to take 2nd place. Lazio will indeed have a difficult match in the next few weeks. But this is what makes Serie A this season even more interesting. The intense competition between these top teams will continue until the end of the season. But I raju Juventus will win against Napoli. because in the last meeting Juventus vs Napoli. we can see Napoli winning hands down this time with a big score.
Now Juventus is a real threat in terms of gaining points, especially considering their current conditions, their points are also 2 points away from the condition that Juventus still has 1 game remaining.
But even though that's actually not a problem I think, in the end, position 2 or 3 is still the same for the Champions League zone.
Not only for Lazio, the effect of Juventus' return to the top flight due to the return of points made their competitors look nervous. Now the opportunity for Juventus to finish in second place is very wide open, it is likely that Juve will be able to beat Lazio from second place.

Roma, Milan and Inter will also be competing again for fourth place. The return of the old lady makes the competition map towards the Champions League zone even more accelerated. But the chances of the two Milan city teams seem very slim given the inconsistent team conditions. What is clear is that Juventus' return will bring disaster to other teams.

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April 22, 2023, 10:49:59 PM
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Lazio's losing to Torino was unexpected to me after seeing that lovely winning streak in the league. Now that Juventus are back in top four zone again they can go for the second position in the standings as well.

They are only two points behind now and winning the game against Napoli will be enough to take this position. No matter what Lazio and Juventus both should be able to qualify for the Champions League easily. There has been some drop in Juventus' effort maybe but Lazio definitely deserve a place in the Champions League with this general effort level. The last place for the Champions League might be taken by Roma if they don't start playing badly for some weeks.

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April 22, 2023, 11:00:42 PM
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It is incredible how Gravina now invented a new rule to remove the red card from Lukaku to allow him to play against Juventus in the second leg of the Coppia Italia.
That was a complicated decision made since there was racism claim and some pushing to remove the ban from the game since Lukaku is the only one to be punished there and not the naughty Juve fans doing silly stuff.
Anyway, Inter isn't in their best shape whether playing with Lukaku or not and Juve have to win regardless of their opponents conditions.

Lazio lost with 1 goal vs Torino, giving Juve a chance to overtake them in case they win vs Napoli tomorrow, could they? Odds are close, we will see.

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Yes, Lazio is defeated, it is surprising and makes them to lose their position in 2nd place. If Juventus wins the match against Napoli, they will be in 2nd place. The next 3 matches will be difficult matches for Lazio (against Inter, Sassuolo, AC Milan), they may lose the chance to finish in UCL zone if they got losses in the next 3 matches. I agree that it becomes more interesting, all the top teams have the chance to fight for UCL zone. Lets see which the top teams to stay in the top 4 in the next 3 matches.  Grin
Lazio should have been able to win against Torino or at least draw a score because there was still time to do that, but until the match ended, Lazio could not do it, so they finally lost by a very narrow score. The difference in points between Lazio and Juventus is very thin, but the next match is Juventus against Napoli, which will not be easy to win.

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Napoli and Juventus have a match ahead, in this match I think Napoli have a chance to secure victory. Because the Napoli team is in great performance, while the Juventus team is doing well, I think it will be very difficult for Juventus to win against Napoli.
yesterday was a good day for juventus because they managed to win an appeal from curva sud, facing Napoli later is really an important thing for juventus, they are working hard to collect as many points as possible so they can at least stop at a high ranking, while Napoli are definitely struggling to strengthen their mentality because they failed to qualify for the semifinals of the UCL after failing to beat Milan.

During the time when they lose the 15 points they didn't lose hope for the league but this definitely affected the team and people were thinking Juventus can't even be in the next champions league will if they had the 15 points they could even race with Napoli for the Serie A title or get more points than they have right now.
the impact of deducting 15 points was very large for the confidence and enthusiasm of the Juventus team and it was very visible when getting a point reduction penalty this team was inconsistent again and their performance was decreasing, all of this was inseparable from the motivation to win the Scudetto which had been lost.
for now being able to compete with Napoli for the title is almost impossible because Juventus are already very far behind in points but to be able to qualify for the UCL next season is very possible for them.

That's not what really counts until now. The confidence could have still been there to qualify for the Champions League anyway. The Serie A title was gone even with the 15 points. It was long gone, but Juventus knew that if they want a decent restart for the club in the next season, they need to play in the Champions League for financial reasons, but also for reputational reasons when they want to keep their strongest players and perhaps get the chance to sign some new ones. Who would go to a club who is currently fighting a lawsuit, not qualified for the Champions League, is losing some of their best players and can't pay competitive salaries? Now the situation looks much better for them.

For Juventus this was really important.  We're talking about a 15-point difference, and when this penalty is lifted, they suddenly have the standings to play in the champions league.  Atalanta, on the other hand, was upset about this because they are out of the ranking of European cups for now.  Of course, the league is not over yet and if they try, there is still a possibility of going to the European cups.

And I ask myself whether those clubs that are not out of a sudden again affected by the lifted ban are going to take further action against it. Or whether they are all themselves in trouble and rather prefer to keep their mouth shut. I think it is very possible that the latter is the likely situation. Probably a lot of those clubs don't want any audits of their accounting books and any other further investigations putting them onto the radar. I have read that there are ongoing investigations against a number of clubs, which isn't that much of a surprise if more clubs engage in the same activities for as long as they thought they could get away with it.

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