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September 03, 2021, 02:54:00 PM
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I think that Juventus have a really low chance against Napoli next week. Because their morale is not that good after the last result against Empoli. And they have missing players also. So, Napoli can take advantage of this situation home and get even a win.
Juventus lost their key player Ronaldo, and their squad won't be as strong as it was. Napoli have been doing pretty good this season, winning their last two matches, and they won't can to lose their next match. Napoli's last meeting against Juventus wasn't a successful one for them, they lost the game with a 2-1 score, and Ronaldo scored the first goal. However, Juventus can still do better without the presence of Ronaldo. They just have to work hard.



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September 03, 2021, 03:32:36 PM
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I think that Juventus have a really low chance against Napoli next week. Because their morale is not that good after the last result against Empoli. And they have missing players also. So, Napoli can take advantage of this situation home and get even a win.
The defeat of Empoli was the first defeat of Juventus after Ronaldo left, and of course it was quite surprising because Empoli is a promotion team and it is clear that this defeat will make Juventus mentality decrease slightly when they face Napoli, especially now Napoli are in a fairly positive trend after successfully defeating genoa in the previous match and making them managed to get 6 points from 2 wins.
I think Juventus will have a hard time against Napoli and it could be their secound defeat at the start of the season.
Moreover, this match will be held at Napoli stadium which will give more confidence to Napoli players to beat Juve, but Juve still cannot be said a weak team, sometimes at the beginning of the season the team can slip, but they will recovery soon and improved their perform, maybe Juve will try to get a point and this match will definitely be tight.
The failure of juventus to get full points in their last two matches, of course, will make the juventus players play all out in that match, but to be honest if the defeat against empoli will certainly make the mental juventus players fall a little, so it is likely that the Napoli players will take advantage of this as an opportunity their advantage apart acting as the host.
I think with the existing advantages, most likely Napoli will be able to win the match with a score of 2-1.

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September 03, 2021, 03:38:39 PM
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Juventus lost their key player Ronaldo, and their squad won't be as strong as it was. Napoli have been doing pretty good this season, winning their last two matches, and they won't can to lose their next match. Napoli's last meeting against Juventus wasn't a successful one for them, they lost the game with a 2-1 score, and Ronaldo scored the first goal. However, Juventus can still do better without the presence of Ronaldo. They just have to work hard.

Allegri is a genius coach, he can turn a Milan full of old players into Serie A champions, while the current Juventus players, are still much better with Milan's conditions at that time. So, I think, even without Ronaldo, and Pogba's plan to Juventus didn't happen, with Allegri's ability as a coach, I think they still deserve to be favorites to win. It is true that it will be more difficult, but at least Juventus still benefits from the condition of their competitors such as Inter, Milan, Lazio which are in less than optimal conditions as well. Against Napoli, because this is a game that the team need to adapt without Ronaldo, holding Napoli with draw is not bad result IMO.

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September 03, 2021, 03:43:25 PM
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I think that Juventus have a really low chance against Napoli next week. Because their morale is not that good after the last result against Empoli. And they have missing players also. So, Napoli can take advantage of this situation home and get even a win.
Juventus lost their key player Ronaldo, and their squad won't be as strong as it was. Napoli have been doing pretty good this season, winning their last two matches, and they won't can to lose their next match. Napoli's last meeting against Juventus wasn't a successful one for them, they lost the game with a 2-1 score, and Ronaldo scored the first goal. However, Juventus can still do better without the presence of Ronaldo. They just have to work hard.

I agree that they need to work really hard. The Empoli loss is unacceptable for example. Even Lazio beat them very easily and it was also an away match (3-1). Everybody was expecting a better Juventus with Allegri but it looks like the real problem is not the coach. The players don't make the necessary effort for the win. Actually they got so many chances against Empoli but they were lacking the skill to finish those opportunities with a goal.
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September 03, 2021, 03:43:46 PM
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Moreover, this match will be held at Napoli stadium which will give more confidence to Napoli players to beat Juve, but Juve still cannot be said a weak team, sometimes at the beginning of the season the team can slip, but they will recovery soon and improved their perform, maybe Juve will try to get a point and this match will definitely be tight.

it is not absolutely certain
unfortunately with these games the emotional factor of the players counts a lot

as it was for Inter last year, after leaving the Champions League the players were very angry

Obviously the emotional factor greatly affects their performance on the field if the team is solid then it will be the decisive victory later for Juventus, but what @Strongkored said is true, that slip is also the beginning of a strategy reshuffle to choose which one is right and usually this will be recovered in the middle of the season.
This time Juvetus and Inter Milan will be very different, they always try with the points they get when UCL is left it will focus on the main league.

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September 03, 2021, 03:55:29 PM
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This time Juvetus and Inter Milan will be very different, they always try with the points they get when UCL is left it will focus on the main league.
Juventus is a strong team even though this season they are no longer reinforced by Ronaldo. There is no doubt to say that Juventus will bounce back soon after their previous two poor results. It's still very quick to say that they are a weak team because the league is still very long. UCL and Serie A should be the two competitions they focus on, despite bad results in Serie A but Juventus can still win UCL matches in my opinion.
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September 03, 2021, 04:29:17 PM
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I personally don't really believe in that and on the contrary, I believe Juventus will improve with time. Just look at when Juventus can get titles for 9 consecutive seasons, basically Juventus can win many titles even before Ronaldo is at Juventus. Therefore, I do not believe that Juventus' defeat in their last match yesterday was not due to the loss of Ronaldo, I feel that Allegri still needs time to return Juventus to their former glory.
I absolutely agree with you
the problem is a normal management change and gear change, it is not a CR7 related problem
you have to wait a few weeks to see the results, you can't do it like Inter Milan of years ago (Moratti management) who changed coaches every month (it's not healthy)
It is obvious that when you lose a player at Ronaldo level that is going to hurt the team a bit, I am not saying it is 100% fine without Ronaldo neither because obviously every team would want to have Ronaldo on their team even at his age. However I agree with you that they are not going to suck suddenly just because Ronaldo is not there, even if they end up not becoming the champions, that is not because Ronaldo is not there because Ronaldo was there last year but Inter won the league so that means it is not all about Ronaldo neither.

We should be seeing this as a half-half thing, it is both true that having Ronaldo is a great addition but we should also realize that not having Ronaldo is not doom neither, you could be better with a player and not suck without him at the same time, those two things are possible all together. That's at least what I believe is true for Juventus. Like if Kane left Spurs that would make a huge dent, Ronaldo wasn't a deal like that anymore.

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September 03, 2021, 05:39:53 PM
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Allegri is a genius coach, he can turn a Milan full of old players into Serie A champions, while the current Juventus players, are still much better with Milan's conditions at that time. So, I think, even without Ronaldo, and Pogba's plan to Juventus didn't happen, with Allegri's ability as a coach, I think they still deserve to be favorites to win. It is true that it will be more difficult, but at least Juventus still benefits from the condition of their competitors such as Inter, Milan, Lazio which are in less than optimal conditions as well. Against Napoli, because this is a game that the team need to adapt without Ronaldo, holding Napoli with draw is not bad result IMO.
If Juventus' poor performance in the last 2 match was caused by losing Ronaldo, then Juventus really made a big mistake. It is never good to always depend on one player even if it is a star player. Actually, Juventus still has quite a lot of reliable players in every game, but it seems that some players have lost their enthusiasm whether it's because of Ronaldo or other reasons. Allegri will be responsible for maximizing the potential of his players in the games to come, they will soon get up and get back on the winning track.

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September 03, 2021, 05:56:49 PM
 #19689

This time Juvetus and Inter Milan will be very different, they always try with the points they get when UCL is left it will focus on the main league.
Juventus is a strong team even though this season they are no longer reinforced by Ronaldo. There is no doubt to say that Juventus will bounce back soon after their previous two poor results. It's still very quick to say that they are a weak team because the league is still very long. UCL and Serie A should be the two competitions they focus on, despite bad results in Serie A but Juventus can still win UCL matches in my opinion.

They say Juventus is now a weak team of course there is a reason just look at last season how they fought for the UCL ticket even though Ronaldo was there
This season they started with a bad result only getting 1 point and there is no attempt to change the composition of the Juventus players, so nothing can be expected in the current situation maybe they will repeat the same result as last season.

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September 03, 2021, 06:07:09 PM
 #19690

This time Juvetus and Inter Milan will be very different, they always try with the points they get when UCL is left it will focus on the main league.
Juventus is a strong team even though this season they are no longer reinforced by Ronaldo. There is no doubt to say that Juventus will bounce back soon after their previous two poor results. It's still very quick to say that they are a weak team because the league is still very long. UCL and Serie A should be the two competitions they focus on, despite bad results in Serie A but Juventus can still win UCL matches in my opinion.

They say Juventus is now a weak team of course there is a reason just look at last season how they fought for the UCL ticket even though Ronaldo was there
This season they started with a bad result only getting 1 point and there is no attempt to change the composition of the Juventus players, so nothing can be expected in the current situation maybe they will repeat the same result as last season.


Juventus are actually not a weak team. They still have a very good squad and manager. They were already becoming champions before Ronaldo joined the team. This proves that they are capable of winning the title actually. But they are not in a good mood lately. It caused them to lose to Empoli. If they start gathering up as soon as possible, they can start a good win streak quickly. But they can lose the Napoli game if they don't get prepared really well.

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September 03, 2021, 06:18:14 PM
 #19691

This time Juvetus and Inter Milan will be very different, they always try with the points they get when UCL is left it will focus on the main league.
Juventus is a strong team even though this season they are no longer reinforced by Ronaldo. There is no doubt to say that Juventus will bounce back soon after their previous two poor results. It's still very quick to say that they are a weak team because the league is still very long. UCL and Serie A should be the two competitions they focus on, despite bad results in Serie A but Juventus can still win UCL matches in my opinion.

They say Juventus is now a weak team of course there is a reason just look at last season how they fought for the UCL ticket even though Ronaldo was there
This season they started with a bad result only getting 1 point and there is no attempt to change the composition of the Juventus players, so nothing can be expected in the current situation maybe they will repeat the same result as last season.


Juventus are actually not a weak team. They still have a very good squad and manager. They were already becoming champions before Ronaldo joined the team. This proves that they are capable of winning the title actually. But they are not in a good mood lately. It caused them to lose to Empoli. If they start gathering up as soon as possible, they can start a good win streak quickly. But they can lose the Napoli game if they don't get prepared really well.

Yes I know Juventus in the past but my judgment is based on current conditions we haven't seen the real Juventus, the current squad is like a substitute
I compare Juventus conditions to Arsenal but Juventus are a little bit better. Next play away against Napoli, I doubt Juventus get the points.

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September 03, 2021, 06:45:09 PM
 #19692

Yes I know Juventus in the past but my judgment is based on current conditions we haven't seen the real Juventus, the current squad is like a substitute
I compare Juventus conditions to Arsenal but Juventus are a little bit better. Next play away against Napoli, I doubt Juventus get the points.
If it was based earlier then I also with the Juventus squad still haven't found their true self, but remember Napoli are not an opponent to be underestimated this will be the main focus for Allegri who must win this match otherwise it will be more difficult after this against Milan after Naples.
Their points will be behind if they lose consecutively then it will be the same as Arsenal.

UCL competition is very tight. Juventus have to go through a lot of challenges from other European teams that are far more powerful than Juve's game, so this must solve problems in the domestic league before the UCL.

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September 03, 2021, 06:57:48 PM
 #19693

Yes I know Juventus in the past but my judgment is based on current conditions we haven't seen the real Juventus, the current squad is like a substitute
I compare Juventus conditions to Arsenal but Juventus are a little bit better. Next play away against Napoli, I doubt Juventus get the points.
If it was based earlier then I also with the Juventus squad still haven't found their true self, but remember Napoli are not an opponent to be underestimated this will be the main focus for Allegri who must win this match otherwise it will be more difficult after this against Milan after Naples.
Their points will be behind if they lose consecutively then it will be the same as Arsenal.

UCL competition is very tight. Juventus have to go through a lot of challenges from other European teams that are far more powerful than Juve's game, so this must solve problems in the domestic league before the UCL.

Actually Juventus is not alone, other European teams have experienced the same thing except teams from the EPL and Ligue 1
I agree with you, domestic problem must be resolved as soon as possible to restore the players' confidence so that this condition does not continue in the next Juventus match in the UCL. Massimiliano Allegri has a chance in the next 2 games to fix it to prove his capacity as a coach.

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September 03, 2021, 07:16:46 PM
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If Juventus' poor performance in the last 2 match was caused by losing Ronaldo, then Juventus really made a big mistake. It is never good to always depend on one player even if it is a star player. Actually, Juventus still has quite a lot of reliable players in every game, but it seems that some players have lost their enthusiasm whether it's because of Ronaldo or other reasons. Allegri will be responsible for maximizing the potential of his players in the games to come, they will soon get up and get back on the winning track.
I don't think Juventus can forget Ronaldo at this time and it was seen when Juventus was defeated by a team that in terms of squad quality is far below Juventus, if you watch the match, you will definitely see if the Juventus striker was not able to overcome the strong defense of Empoli, even in that match Federico Chiesa and Paulo Dybala played quite well, but they were not able to finish the chances they had to score in that match.

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September 03, 2021, 08:04:45 PM
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If Juventus' poor performance in the last 2 match was caused by losing Ronaldo, then Juventus really made a big mistake. It is never good to always depend on one player even if it is a star player. Actually, Juventus still has quite a lot of reliable players in every game, but it seems that some players have lost their enthusiasm whether it's because of Ronaldo or other reasons. Allegri will be responsible for maximizing the potential of his players in the games to come, they will soon get up and get back on the winning track.
I don't think Juventus can forget Ronaldo at this time and it was seen when Juventus was defeated by a team that in terms of squad quality is far below Juventus, if you watch the match, you will definitely see if the Juventus striker was not able to overcome the strong defense of Empoli, even in that match Federico Chiesa and Paulo Dybala played quite well, but they were not able to finish the chances they had to score in that match.

I heard Massimo Allegri very angry with Juventus management because sell Cristiano Ronaldo to Manchester United, I think they not discussing between Allegri and Juventus team management about Cristiano Ronaldo transfer. Now Juventus success get back Moise Kean from Everton and become tandem for Dybala or Alvaro Morata, but most disappointed why Juventus left Ronaldo because they still need him exactly one years later.

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September 03, 2021, 08:32:56 PM
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If Juventus' poor performance in the last 2 match was caused by losing Ronaldo, then Juventus really made a big mistake. It is never good to always depend on one player even if it is a star player. Actually, Juventus still has quite a lot of reliable players in every game, but it seems that some players have lost their enthusiasm whether it's because of Ronaldo or other reasons. Allegri will be responsible for maximizing the potential of his players in the games to come, they will soon get up and get back on the winning track.
I don't think Juventus can forget Ronaldo at this time and it was seen when Juventus was defeated by a team that in terms of squad quality is far below Juventus, if you watch the match, you will definitely see if the Juventus striker was not able to overcome the strong defense of Empoli, even in that match Federico Chiesa and Paulo Dybala played quite well, but they were not able to finish the chances they had to score in that match.

I heard Massimo Allegri very angry with Juventus management because sell Cristiano Ronaldo to Manchester United, I think they not discussing between Allegri and Juventus team management about Cristiano Ronaldo transfer. Now Juventus success get back Moise Kean from Everton and become tandem for Dybala or Alvaro Morata, but most disappointed why Juventus left Ronaldo because they still need him exactly one years later.

Well Allegri benched Ronaldo in the first game against Udinese and that must have made Ronaldo really angry because as you all know Ronaldo likes to play the entire match. Kean isnt a good substitute for Ronaldo not even close. They sold Ronaldo because they dont want to pay big salaries for him.

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September 03, 2021, 08:58:15 PM
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I think that Juventus have a really low chance against Napoli next week. Because their morale is not that good after the last result against Empoli. And they have missing players also. So, Napoli can take advantage of this situation home and get even a win.
The defeat of Empoli was the first defeat of Juventus after Ronaldo left, and of course it was quite surprising because Empoli is a promotion team and it is clear that this defeat will make Juventus mentality decrease slightly when they face Napoli, especially now Napoli are in a fairly positive trend after successfully defeating genoa in the previous match and making them managed to get 6 points from 2 wins.
I think Juventus will have a hard time against Napoli and it could be their secound defeat at the start of the season.
I believe that Napoli could win and Juventus could still be decent in the future, I am not saying that Juventus is a great team but they are not as bad as people think they are right now. Too many people saw just 2 games and reacted accordingly, or even if they lose to Napoli that is 3 games, we should not judge a team by just 3 game result because that means nothing in the end.

Obviously they are not doing good that's true, but there are levels of not being good, they used to 9/10 and now they are 6.5/10 but people act like they are 4/10, that's all I wanted to say, this means they did get worse and they are not great just like you guys are saying, but I am just saying they are a bit better than that too. Do not act as if we should be forgetting how Juventus won so many league titles, they didn't had Ronaldo back then and I am sure they will be fine without him now as well.

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September 03, 2021, 10:43:39 PM
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I think that Juventus have a really low chance against Napoli next week. Because their morale is not that good after the last result against Empoli. And they have missing players also. So, Napoli can take advantage of this situation home and get even a win.

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Yes I know Juventus in the past but my judgment is based on current conditions we haven't seen the real Juventus, the current squad is like a substitute
I compare Juventus conditions to Arsenal but Juventus are a little bit better. Next play away against Napoli, I doubt Juventus get the points.
If it was based earlier then I also with the Juventus squad still haven't found their true self, but remember Napoli are not an opponent to be underestimated this will be the main focus for Allegri who must win this match otherwise it will be more difficult after this against Milan after Naples.
Their points will be behind if they lose consecutively then it will be the same as Arsenal.
UCL competition is very tight. Juventus have to go through a lot of challenges from other European teams that are far more powerful than Juve's game, so this must solve problems in the domestic league before the UCL.
It's not even worth comparing the situation at Arsenal and Juventus. We can say that Juventus only relatively failed last season, still winning the national cup and still making it to the Champions League. Until last season, the situation for Juventus was developing quite favorably and winning the title of national champion did not pose any special problems, which is radically different from the situation with Arsenal, where the championship in recent years looks like an unthinkable dream. The only problem was to make a step on the international stage and win the title of the winner of the Champions League. But unfortunately, this did not happen and even there was a degradation at the domestic level and Juventus could not win the championship. In any case, the season has just begun and there is a lot of time to fix the situation.
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September 04, 2021, 03:02:41 AM
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If Juventus' poor performance in the last 2 match was caused by losing Ronaldo, then Juventus really made a big mistake. It is never good to always depend on one player even if it is a star player. Actually, Juventus still has quite a lot of reliable players in every game, but it seems that some players have lost their enthusiasm whether it's because of Ronaldo or other reasons. Allegri will be responsible for maximizing the potential of his players in the games to come, they will soon get up and get back on the winning track.
I don't think Juventus can forget Ronaldo at this time and it was seen when Juventus was defeated by a team that in terms of squad quality is far below Juventus, if you watch the match, you will definitely see if the Juventus striker was not able to overcome the strong defense of Empoli, even in that match Federico Chiesa and Paulo Dybala played quite well, but they were not able to finish the chances they had to score in that match.

Ronaldo is a player whose presence in a team alone,produces fear in the mind of their opponents.His impact on the field cannot be over emphasised,it is obvious that Juventus are losing simply because Ronaldo is no longer in the team,and that alone has weaken the moral of other team mates who have been  used to Ronaldo and his style of play.They will continue to miss him untill they will be able to replace him with someone that is very good as well.
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