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September 06, 2023, 08:30:59 AM
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Pogba played for a really short time period in 2 games so far and now there is an information like he has muscle fatigue. But this one doesn't convince me either. What happened all of a sudden? I haven't heard of any injury report during a game or training. Maybe this time it is due to some problems between him and the team.

Pogba should have left the team already actually. He hasn't played properly for Juventus so far and I don't think Juventus are very happy to have him in the squad now. It would be better for both sides if he joins a Saudi Arabia team instead for example.

I guess he is kind of done, you know what I mean? I had my doubts all along, but this only confirms my expectation that Pogba won't have the comeback many were hoping for. He has been injured so many times and with so many different things that this doesn't even surprise me anymore.

How would a coach try to integrate him into the team for the long-term when he is most likely injured two weeks later the latest again? This won't work and I can understand when Pogba is substituted for other players that they are not very amused about that. Pogba won't become a top performer again.
I think you're right, given the number of times he's been injured in space of 2 to 3 years and one thing about being injured is that it keeps players away from the pitch for a while and most times the don't perform according to their potential when they return, you'll see them declining gradually unitil they're totally finished and would be forced to retire early.
 Just like it happened at Realmadrid with Eden Hazard, who had several injury crisis while he was at the team, and each year everyone expected him to have a better comeback but Hazard kept declining and even became worst of a player, which forced him to retire at an early age, well I don't wish thst for Paul Pogba as well he's a great player and I think still has lots to offer to Juve but the way things are going he's become very prone to injury which is very bad for his career.
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September 06, 2023, 09:44:19 AM
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Paul Pogba getting injured is not something new for anyone because we know Paul Pogba is a player who gets injured more than usual. In the game against Empoli, he even scored a goal at 66' because it was not accepted.
He got injured in the game against Empoli and Allegri said he didn't know anything yet.
Pogba had knee surgery and this can make this palyer get injured more often.


This is a list of injuries suffered by Paul Pogba, he has similarities with Neymar Jr. https://www.transfermarkt.com/paul-pogba/verletzungen/spieler/122153
Players will lose their golden age slowly, whether due to age, but what hurts the most is injury. Paul Pogba has always been friendly with injuries, whatever club he plays for, it will be more remembered how long he was injured than how many goals he scored, injury is something he cannot resist, maybe it will only be a few seasons before we hear he decides to retire or just will play in the minor leagues because his contribution to the club that pays him a big salary does not get the equivalent of him.
He only played about 30 minutes in the match against Empoli and got injured, What if he played from the start of the match?, with this fact Pogba would not be able to contribute much to his club.

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September 06, 2023, 09:49:14 AM
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There is no longer a good possibility for Paul Pogba's career, like footballers who have been injured, they will be very vulnerable to being injured again, as happened to Paul Pogba, he has been injured several times, even Juventus took quite a bold step when brought him last season but the results were very disappointing, while at Juventus Paul Pogba spent more time healing from injuries.
Even now there is news circulating that Juventus is considering cutting Paul Pogba's salary because of his frequent injuries and lack of contribution to the team.
maybe if Paul Pogba did not suffer an injury I'm sure Juventus would be very proud to have this player because performance wise this player has a pretty good talent in every match I see he always makes a good contribution but its a shame the injury is the scariest ghost for all the player that Paul Pogba is currently experiencing and preventing him from contributing properly with Juventus and there is no other choice but to accept the offer of a salary cut from Juventus because there really is no current contribution in every match he is always injured which makes him have to leave the match.

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September 06, 2023, 10:21:37 AM
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The longevity of football legends like Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo is partly attributed to their ability to avoid prolonged injuries.
Paul Pogba is a great player seen in the way he plays his ball without stress because when I try or think about how  Paul Pogba, I weep because I loved the way he plays. Ever since he went to  Manchester United he plays his football with lots of nonchalancy, putting the team in a situation where he can't help because he not a good tackler or with pace when going back to win the ball . Also not a natural goal scorer seen in the like of English legendary player Frank Lampard.

Now that he is injured again. The team can do well without him because he has always gone on injuries since returning to Juventus. Juventus manged to go to semi finals of Europa league. His last match that he had this injury his performance was not very good . Sincerely Paul Pogba should be sold to another team he is not an asset to the Club or Team.

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September 06, 2023, 10:27:04 AM
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Regardless of that I think after the game between Empoli and Juventus, Allegri had a good speech because instead of saying we are better than Inter Milan for winning the Serie E title and we got a stronger team, he just said Inter Milan and some other teams like Ac Milan got better situation and stronger teams than us to decrease the pressure on his team, which is a wise move from this coach.




As a coach, he is very good and wise, he managed a poor year in terms of athletic training, he had few players, almost all of them injured. He played in emergency.
From here you can see when a coach is good or not.

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September 06, 2023, 11:43:15 AM
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Inter Milan have solid defensive without conceded any one goals yet until playing three matches in Serie A, not only with quit well performance with defensive but also Inter Milan attacking line more productive with 8 goals scored for three matches. Have good start for Inter Milan but can't guarantee with how many matches later they have consistence performance and keep in the winning trend. Last season, Inter Milan finished on 3rd standings placed in domestic league success managed to final stage in Champion League before defeating by Manchester City.

Have well start in three matches seems Inter Milan have opportunity to compete domestic league winning race with Napoli, Milan and Juventus are favorable teams have opportunity to be the winner.
This shows that Inter Milan's defense has been solid in the last three matches and they also have a good front line to score eight goals so far. The positive trend will continue if they are able to beat AC Milan the following week which is also unbeaten. My initial estimate was that Inzaghi's squad would have a little problem after releasing several important players in the transfer market, but in fact up to now they have remained solid and even much more coordinated in their play.

Inzaghi's next test will be a battle against Pioli's tactics and strategy where they are gaining more confidence after defeating Jose Mourinho's tactics. Regarding the competition for the domestic league championship, it is certain that the three will be on a positive track, but we need to see how the consistency of the three clubs will end until the first the first half of the season ends.
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September 06, 2023, 11:52:19 AM
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There is no longer a good possibility for Paul Pogba's career, like footballers who have been injured, they will be very vulnerable to being injured again, as happened to Paul Pogba, he has been injured several times, even Juventus took quite a bold step when brought him last season but the results were very disappointing, while at Juventus Paul Pogba spent more time healing from injuries.
Even now there is news circulating that Juventus is considering cutting Paul Pogba's salary because of his frequent injuries and lack of contribution to the team.
maybe if Paul Pogba did not suffer an injury I'm sure Juventus would be very proud to have this player because performance wise this player has a pretty good talent in every match I see he always makes a good contribution but its a shame the injury is the scariest ghost for all the player that Paul Pogba is currently experiencing and preventing him from contributing properly with Juventus and there is no other choice but to accept the offer of a salary cut from Juventus because there really is no current contribution in every match he is always injured which makes him have to leave the match.
Injuries are Pogba's main problem right now as the long rest and recuperation will have a huge impact on his performance.
Until now even though Pogba was brought in for free but he was unable to do much, Juventus were actually quite unlucky with the players.
Previously Chiesa was one of the most brilliant players and became the most reliable player but injuries also became a problem for him.

Now for Pogba to pioneer his performance from scratch and he must get good momentum so that his condition can return to initial performance.
But it will not be easy because at the moment the burden he carries is still very large because he besides having to improve his own performance he also has to make Juventus better and focus on keeping Juventus' performance better than before is the most important thing he must do.

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September 06, 2023, 12:08:15 PM
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 I think you're right, given the number of times he's been injured in space of 2 to 3 years and one thing about being injured is that it keeps players away from the pitch for a while and most times the don't perform according to their potential when they return, you'll see them declining gradually unitil they're totally finished and would be forced to retire early.
 Just like it happened at Realmadrid with Eden Hazard, who had several injury crisis while he was at the team, and each year everyone expected him to have a better comeback but Hazard kept declining and even became worst of a player, which forced him to retire at an early age, well I don't wish thst for Paul Pogba as well he's a great player and I think still has lots to offer to Juve but the way things are going he's become very prone to injury which is very bad for his career.

I think the biggest problem is that the players themselves lose trust in their body and are afraid of taking harsh duels with their opponents. When a player had a very severe injury, one that knocks him out for several months, often times that player is also a different person on the pitch.

Yes there have been remarkable recoveries in the past and I know that some have been better than ever after they returned from an injury, but many players keep that burden with them for a long time mentally. It is a different situation when you take on a hard tackle while you have always been healthy versus a situation when you just had a broken leg and are supposed to take that tackle.

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September 06, 2023, 12:13:37 PM
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Inzaghi's next test will be a battle against Pioli's tactics and strategy where they are gaining more confidence after defeating Jose Mourinho's tactics. Regarding the competition for the domestic league championship, it is certain that the three will be on a positive track, but we need to see how the consistency of the three clubs will end until the first the first half of the season ends.

Last season Inter Milan managed to destroy Milan in 4 derbies, Serie-A and in the UCL. Inter Milan has always appeared dominant in Derby Della Madonninna meetings. Pioli needs to prepare a strategy that can stop this dominance. Inzaghi seemed to know the weaknesses of Pioli's strategy so that he managed to stop Milan in all matches last season. This is really bad  for AC Milan fans, and they really didn't expect its happens again. Losing to Inter for the 5th time in 2 seasons, that's not funny.

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September 06, 2023, 12:19:05 PM
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Napole take first defeat with Lazio and stay to 6 points, and Inter and Milan are the only with full points (9), Inter seems in good shape, 3 wins.
Milan suffers but stay near Inter.

Napoli loss was something that would boost their morale to come back hard on any team after the international break and teams like Inter Milan would mess up because they don't seem to be trust worthy and it will be hard to see them (Inter Milan ) get another 9 points without them playing a draw.
The whole table seems to be in favor of the two brothers, Inter Milan and Ac Milan but watch out for Juventus this season, they're having that hunger to stay at the top of the table if not being the champions ones again.

my fear is precisely that this defeat will give him a bad blow to morale!
Lazio is not a team that had done well in these beginnings and losing with a team that had done badly can be a blow to pride
lets hope they dont suffer at all and continue to win

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September 06, 2023, 12:28:27 PM
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There is no longer a good possibility for Paul Pogba's career, like footballers who have been injured, they will be very vulnerable to being injured again, as happened to Paul Pogba, he has been injured several times, even Juventus took quite a bold step when brought him last season but the results were very disappointing, while at Juventus Paul Pogba spent more time healing from injuries.
Even now there is news circulating that Juventus is considering cutting Paul Pogba's salary because of his frequent injuries and lack of contribution to the team.
maybe if Paul Pogba did not suffer an injury I'm sure Juventus would be very proud to have this player because performance wise this player has a pretty good talent in every match I see he always makes a good contribution but its a shame the injury is the scariest ghost for all the player that Paul Pogba is currently experiencing and preventing him from contributing properly with Juventus and there is no other choice but to accept the offer of a salary cut from Juventus because there really is no current contribution in every match he is always injured which makes him have to leave the match.

Pogba played for a short period against empoli but he has been showing an impressive performance. Im feeling so bad to hear him face another injury. Pogba was really needed by the club but it's likely his injury will become the main problem that was preventing him to continue his career.
It is my belief that Juventus might have a plan to release him from the club due to the fact that Juve was no longer able to afford his salary, especially while he is still recovering from injury. It's hard to say when he will be recovering from his injury.
Im sure that if pogba may not be able to recover from his injury in a short time. I have been waiting to see his performance, but he was unable to perform with juventus for the long term period again.
Im feeling so disappointed.

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September 06, 2023, 12:41:39 PM
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Milan
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Juve
7
Lecce
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Atalanta
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Napoli
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Verona
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3
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2
Roma
1
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1
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Napole take first defeat with Lazio and stay to 6 points, and Inter and Milan are the only with full points (9), Inter seems in good shape, 3 wins.
Milan suffers but stay near Inter.

As it stand now in this season, I think things will change in this season but it will be difficult for Napoli to miss this trophy because they have won their two matches to embraced 6 points which they will still win the next match to be among the teams that is toping the Italian league table. Once the end of the tournament is approaching, Many team like AC Milan, Inter and Juventus will begin struggling to win their matches and by them their points will begin to drop down for Napoli to maintain the first position till the end of the tournament. I know this new season will go to be a tough season for all those teams that are toping, because they will soon meet tough team that will defeat them to reduce their strength and points.

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September 06, 2023, 12:45:40 PM
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Regardless of that I think after the game between Empoli and Juventus, Allegri had a good speech because instead of saying we are better than Inter Milan for winning the Serie E title and we got a stronger team, he just said Inter Milan and some other teams like Ac Milan got better situation and stronger teams than us to decrease the pressure on his team, which is a wise move from this coach.




As a coach, he is very good and wise, he managed a poor year in terms of athletic training, he had few players, almost all of them injured. He played in emergency.
From here you can see when a coach is good or not.


There is no need to wait for the players to get injured, even when the core players are healthy and fit, Allegri often changes playing tactics which sometimes makes mistakes, here this coach seems very lacking, different from before when he was given star players where Allegri was able to bring Juventus to the Scudetto 5 times and 2 Copa Italias. Of course that's an extraordinary achievement, but it's very different from now when in the era of young Juventus players, Allegri was actually unable to lift and even the current players are quite good but sometimes with unreasonable decisions that create disaster for his own team...

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September 06, 2023, 01:25:06 PM
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 I think you're right, given the number of times he's been injured in space of 2 to 3 years and one thing about being injured is that it keeps players away from the pitch for a while and most times the don't perform according to their potential when they return, you'll see them declining gradually unitil they're totally finished and would be forced to retire early.
 Just like it happened at Realmadrid with Eden Hazard, who had several injury crisis while he was at the team, and each year everyone expected him to have a better comeback but Hazard kept declining and even became worst of a player, which forced him to retire at an early age, well I don't wish thst for Paul Pogba as well he's a great player and I think still has lots to offer to Juve but the way things are going he's become very prone to injury which is very bad for his career.

I think the biggest problem is that the players themselves lose trust in their body and are afraid of taking harsh duels with their opponents. When a player had a very severe injury, one that knocks him out for several months, often times that player is also a different person on the pitch.

Yes there have been remarkable recoveries in the past and I know that some have been better than ever after they returned from an injury, but many players keep that burden with them for a long time mentally. It is a different situation when you take on a hard tackle while you have always been healthy versus a situation when you just had a broken leg and are supposed to take that tackle.
Not because you have lost faith in yourself, but it all depends on the injury you are experiencing if this injury is not too severe, as Victor Osimhen did last week, he has an injury that is not too severe, so he still has the courage to appear on the field, but for Eden Hazard's injury, it is the same as Paul Pogba a bit severe which made it difficult for him to appear in several matches and if he forced himself to compete it would be the same as worsening his injury so he chose to rest for a few matches so he could really recover and be able to appear strong again.
It could be that an injured player forces him to appear, but what Paul Pogba is afraid of is only if it gets worse and forces him to compete.

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September 06, 2023, 01:43:48 PM
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Napole take first defeat with Lazio and stay to 6 points, and Inter and Milan are the only with full points (9), Inter seems in good shape, 3 wins.
Milan suffers but stay near Inter.

Napoli loss was something that would boost their morale to come back hard on any team after the international break and teams like Inter Milan would mess up because they don't seem to be trust worthy and it will be hard to see them (Inter Milan ) get another 9 points without them playing a draw.
The whole table seems to be in favor of the two brothers, Inter Milan and Ac Milan but watch out for Juventus this season, they're having that hunger to stay at the top of the table if not being the champions ones again.

The winner of the next match between Inter and Milan is going to decide who will be the leader of the Serie A league table. Both of them have definitely played well so far. There is really a chance that the next match between themselves is going to end in a draw.  But I certainly want to see a winner in this match. I believe that if the deadlock is broken in this patch, we will see a winner. And since both of them have the same home ground, I don’t think there will be any advantage for any team. Both of them have not lost any matches so far. But for some reason, I truly believe that in this match one of them is going to face their first defeat.
Inter Milan and AC Milan has been very impressive in their performances in this season's Italian Serie A campaign. Both has won all their three league games so far and all they all won in convincing fashions making it very hard for anyone to predict the outcome of the Milan derby that's coming up after the FIFA international break.
While AC Milan has conceded two goals in the three league games they've played so far, Inter Milan are yet to concede one and are the only Italian club that's yet to concede a goal this season. AC Milan with all their attacking talents will want to break that deadlock while Inter will want to have a perfect victory. I can't predict the final score but I know the teams are gonna surely find the back of the net

It is gonna be very hard to pick a winner..  I think I have already said that in this thread, there is nothing to actually differentiate one team from the other. And they also play on the same ground as well. So no home advantage for any team as well.  I hate to sound like a broken record here but I can't choose a team to actually be the favorites in this match.

And I do not think that just because one team has conceded and the other did not, it is actually going to matter too much.  It is going to come down to the fact that the team which is going to play better on that day is going to be the winner.  additionally there exists the possibility of a draw as the final result however should the deadlock be broken, a victor shall emerge.

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September 06, 2023, 01:56:37 PM
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Inzaghi's next test will be a battle against Pioli's tactics and strategy where they are gaining more confidence after defeating Jose Mourinho's tactics. Regarding the competition for the domestic league championship, it is certain that the three will be on a positive track, but we need to see how the consistency of the three clubs will end until the first the first half of the season ends.

Last season Inter Milan managed to destroy Milan in 4 derbies, Serie-A and in the UCL. Inter Milan has always appeared dominant in Derby Della Madonninna meetings. Pioli needs to prepare a strategy that can stop this dominance. Inzaghi seemed to know the weaknesses of Pioli's strategy so that he managed to stop Milan in all matches last season. This is really bad  for AC Milan fans, and they really didn't expect its happens again. Losing to Inter for the 5th time in 2 seasons, that's not funny.
With such a meeting record, it is very unlikely that Milan will be able to beat Inter. However, this is a very fierce derby and it is quite difficult to predict who will win. I think Inter can be superior with this domination but this time Milan also doesn't want to get the same results as last season by losing in various competitions. I think Milan won't be playing around anymore this time and they will be serious about challenging Inter in the derby which will take place this month.

Inzaghi is indeed famous for his prowess in always destroying Pioli but of course Pioli has fully learned from previous experiences so that this doesn't happen again. So I think the possibility that Milan will win this time and even though the chance is very small, it is enough to influence the situation that will arise later. Moreover, so far the two teams have won consecutive games at the start of the season, so this will be an opportunity for both of them to stay away from each other in the standings.

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September 06, 2023, 02:07:18 PM
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. But apart from this, that at this moment Milan and Inter have equally good results in the Serie A standings, because they also managed to get three consecutive wins. With these good results, it will certainly be difficult for us to predict which team will win in the next match because after all, Milan and Inter at this moment have the same good quality.
Exactly.
Both have quite significant appearance and performance improvements. What's more, with no feeling of home or away, the two of them will compete more optimally, especially against their city rivals. This will be really high tension. If one can be the winner, it will be very expected. But at least, they may be drawn. This is their first meeting in Serie A this season, so, each will show their best to conquer his opponent no matter what the means and obstacles.

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Regardless of that I think after the game between Empoli and Juventus, Allegri had a good speech because instead of saying we are better than Inter Milan for winning the Serie E title and we got a stronger team, he just said Inter Milan and some other teams like Ac Milan got better situation and stronger teams than us to decrease the pressure on his team, which is a wise move from this coach.




As a coach, he is very good and wise, he managed a poor year in terms of athletic training, he had few players, almost all of them injured. He played in emergency.
From here you can see when a coach is good or not.


There is no need to wait for the players to get injured, even when the core players are healthy and fit, Allegri often changes playing tactics which sometimes makes mistakes, here this coach seems very lacking, different from before when he was given star players where Allegri was able to bring Juventus to the Scudetto 5 times and 2 Copa Italias. Of course that's an extraordinary achievement, but it's very different from now when in the era of young Juventus players, Allegri was actually unable to lift and even the current players are quite good but sometimes with unreasonable decisions that create disaster for his own team...

It's too early to say Allegri is not a good coach,
that's right. When Allegri won the title with Juventus, the team had star players such as Cristiano Ronaldo, Paulo Dybala and Gianluigi Buffon. These players bring extra quality to the team and make the coach's job easier.
but I think when a team turns to youth or new players, it may need to make bigger tactical adjustments.
I see that Allegri is known as a flexible coach and tends to rotate his playing tactics. This can be an advantage against teams with different opponents, and it was proven last week that Juventus was able to win 2 - 0 over Empoli.

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With such a meeting record, it is very unlikely that Milan will be able to beat Inter. However, this is a very fierce derby and it is quite difficult to predict who will win. I think Inter can be superior with this domination but this time Milan also doesn't want to get the same results as last season by losing in various competitions. I think Milan won't be playing around anymore this time and they will be serious about challenging Inter in the derby which will take place this month.

Inzaghi is indeed famous for his prowess in always destroying Pioli but of course Pioli has fully learned from previous experiences so that this doesn't happen again. So I think the possibility that Milan will win this time and even though the chance is very small, it is enough to influence the situation that will arise later. Moreover, so far the two teams have won consecutive games at the start of the season, so this will be an opportunity for both of them to stay away from each other in the standings.
Pioli certainly now knows how strong Inter is. they have to make a stronger midfield and defense line. Even though Inter no longer has Lukaku on their front line, from the 3 successful matches played by Inter, Martinez and Thuram have played a very dangerous role.
If they want to win or just hold Inter to a draw, Pioli will definitely strengthen their midfield to work very hard in the next match. Such a strategy might make Milan's attack less, but in that way, it can only provoke gaps in Inter's defense. Pioli may have to prepare a striker with speed and good finishing.

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September 06, 2023, 02:24:34 PM
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. But apart from this, that at this moment Milan and Inter have equally good results in the Serie A standings, because they also managed to get three consecutive wins. With these good results, it will certainly be difficult for us to predict which team will win in the next match because after all, Milan and Inter at this moment have the same good quality.
Exactly.
Both have quite significant appearance and performance improvements. What's more, with no feeling of home or away, the two of them will compete more optimally, especially against their city rivals. This will be really high tension. If one can be the winner, it will be very expected. But at least, they may be drawn. This is their first meeting in Serie A this season, so, each will show their best to conquer his opponent no matter what the means and obstacles.
I'm sure the meeting between the two will feature a great match considering that these two rival clubs will play their best and get points from this match because both of them have never been beaten in three matches earlier this season, the 4th week of this meeting will be the umpteenth time even though I'm not sure they will play full game by fielding many key players.

After the second meeting this weekend, of course, there will also be a UCL match which the two will face in three days afterward, so of course they will also maintain consistency and maintain the stamina of the players so they don't feel tired, even so, fellow rivals also don't want to lose points, at least they want to come out winning and earning points, but I believe it will be a draw.

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