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November 16, 2023, 12:55:48 PM
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Actually, I won't blame Garcia completely and I won't defend him either, but we just have to look at the positive side because Garcia isn't that great and doesn't have the achievements of previous coach Spalletti, but from this bad performance we also have to look at the other side like Victor Osimhen. who cannot compete to defend Napoli and Osimhen's side is not what it used to be before having problems with Napoli so it is natural that Osimhen is a little discouraged after having problems with his own club.
With this, I don't really believe that Napoli can get past the clubs above them to win the title and we'll see how Napoli performs after playing against Atalanta in the upcoming match. We'll see how the score turns out for Napoli.
The newly appointed coach will take off where Rudi Garcia left off. What did Aurelio de Laurentiis hope to begin with? Appointing a coach who was fired by the Al Nassr board of directors in the Saudi Pro League.  Napoli will never develop under such a coach because he lacks experience and the capacity to reunite a team that appears dissatisfied at the moment; perhaps he should be given more time, but this is an elite club where everyone expects nothing but the highest performance from the club. There's no time and the earlier the new boss reacts to the situation on ground the better.

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November 16, 2023, 01:05:22 PM
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With this, I don't really believe that Napoli can get past the clubs above them to win the title and we'll see how Napoli performs after playing against Atalanta in the upcoming match. We'll see how the score turns out for Napoli.
It also looks like it will be difficult for Napoli to win the match, especially since Atalanta is also playing at home and will play optimally not to lose points, I think this is a difficult match for Napoli seeing that this season Napoli is not playing as well as last season and we all saw that there their performance has decreased and it is also possible that it will be difficult to chase the title this season.

The bad results obtained by Napoli in several matches are not very satisfying, making people feel unsure about Napoli's current ability and strength. To beat Atalanta at home, of course they need to fight hard to win, Rudi Garcia must be able to put pressure on his team to get good results. Also remembering that Rudi Garcia may have a lot of pressure from supporters to make Napoli better and more consistent.

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November 16, 2023, 01:23:39 PM
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Inter Milan vs Juventus would be one of the big game to watch in the Seria A this season, both team have excellent feature and quality players. Watching Inter Milan and Juventus compete for the very best performance this season, a whole tough fight to experience because I'm certainly that both managers won't hesitate to give up, probably not when they're this close of winning the scudetto. For the Old Lady, they need consistency in performance for the purpose to match levels with the Nerazzurri who's topping the table and they don't look like team that would give up so soon.

It will certainly be a super big game and definitely worth watching, or at least I hope it is that way. Obviously I think Inter are the favorites in this match, but you can never tell. At these levels anything can happen and a single butterfly can change the fate of the game.

A big match which will surely be very interesting to watch, we shouldn't miss it. Indeed, although Inter Milan is the favorite but in terms of quality both are at the same level, and yeah anything can happen. Personally, I probably wouldn't dare to bet a lot of money on this match, but for having fun maybe with a little money could be more interesting for me. But also still undecided, maybe both teams to scored is the best option. What do you think, do you have any other options to bet?
It's a very good idea to choose to bet on both clubs scoring because in terms of performance both clubs have the same chance of scoring or if not you can choose another option which is safer but I haven't confirmed where I will place the bet but what is certain is between Inter and Juventus this time will at least score 1 score each but always be careful of the surprises that will occur and my advice is to bet before the match starts, it would be better.

A draw is much better for placing bets on the Juventus vs Inter Milan match, because these two clubs are equally strong and both want to be at the top of the standings, but Juventus is in good condition in its last few matches, so don't make the wrong bet. in this match because it is difficult to predict..

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November 16, 2023, 01:28:08 PM
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If the coach does not have many choices for the players he has then it will be difficult for him to rotate because play in players who are not ready will make the strategy not work well during the match. Moreover, if several key players are injured, this could affect the results of the match because Inter Milan is taking part in a different competition and the match schedule will definitely be even busier. Inter Milan's task is tough this season, apart from having to fight to get the Scudetto title, they also have the ambition to win the Champions League because last season they were runners-up.

Simeone Inzaghi will try to give his best for the team and he will also try to make several steps forward so that Inter Milan does not fail in Serie A. It takes calm and intelligence for him to choose several players when he has to rotate. The next match will be at Juventus headquarters and this will be a tough match for him because defeat could bring Inter Milan down to second place in the standings.
 Squad depth has been a very major challenge in securing titles and that has caused so many team’s the title at the last minute, Inter Milan will be having a busy match schedule especially since they’re still in all competitions and rotations amongst players are needed but what if there’re no suitable replacements who would be able to keep up the standard of the main team?

 The match against Juventus will be one to watch, and he’ll try to secure his players fitness so as to keep up with maintaining top spot in the league and he also has UCL match to keep up with, Juventus are a pretty good side who would try to control the game and keep a 1-0 lead up to the very end but let’s see how long Inter Milan would hold on to the match and top spot

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November 16, 2023, 01:48:10 PM
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Rudi Garcia has been sacked, they called back Mazzarri after 10 years.

Conte is rumored to have refused them, twice.

Well, it was the right decision to fire Rudi Garcia but isn't there another better option for Napoli's new coach? considering that they really need a coach who is very experienced in winning titles to get through this season. Walter Mazzarri was their previous coach and now he has returned after more than 10 years and I think this is an immature decision from Napoli. The last time Walter Mazzarri coached Cagliari was in the 21/22 season and there is no other good record apart from having coached Inter in the 13/14 season. I feel that Napoli will not be able to find their goal this season and they are unlikely to be able to survive the Scudetto competition.
I predicted this, as I didn't see Napoli's satisfaction with Rudy Garcia. But will sacking him eliminate the problem? Of course not. There is no guarantee that a new coach can immediately make the performance of a club go up significantly. But we'll see if their current coach who was also their coach a few years ago will be able to make a difference and bring fresh air to Napoli.
He needs adaptation now and also he will see how strong the depth of players he has in the squad. I hope he can quickly understand the composition of the players he has.
Yes, that's what I'm worried about and sometimes even a new coach will have difficulty providing direction in a team whose quality is very even. We know that Napoli's squad is filled with good players, especially Osimhen and Kvaratskhelia, so if Mazzarri cannot provide his strategy to these two attacking players then he is definitely a failed coach. Sometimes it is not an easy problem to solve being at a club with an even squad depth and if the desired results are not comparable then he will be under more pressure. Responsibilities as a coach at a club with the status of defending champion will certainly become more mentally distracting. However, it looks like we will first see his journey in leading Napoli and if the results continue to be positive then he can get full attention and support from the squad and fans.

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November 16, 2023, 01:57:08 PM
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With this, I don't really believe that Napoli can get past the clubs above them to win the title and we'll see how Napoli performs after playing against Atalanta in the upcoming match. We'll see how the score turns out for Napoli.
It also looks like it will be difficult for Napoli to win the match, especially since Atalanta is also playing at home and will play optimally not to lose points, I think this is a difficult match for Napoli seeing that this season Napoli is not playing as well as last season and we all saw that there their performance has decreased and it is also possible that it will be difficult to chase the title this season.

The bad results obtained by Napoli in several matches are not very satisfying, making people feel unsure about Napoli's current ability and strength. To beat Atalanta at home, of course they need to fight hard to win, Rudi Garcia must be able to put pressure on his team to get good results. Also remembering that Rudi Garcia may have a lot of pressure from supporters to make Napoli better and more consistent.
If you view what Napoli are playing in this summer, you will be convince that they don't have the strength to return back to first position in the Italy serie A table because, their performance is very poor and their coach is not doing anything to show what will make their fans believe that they can still improve before the end of the tournament. There are many people that will not predict for the favour of Napoli in their next game because, Atlanta know how to be strong in their home to make the game difficult for their opponent to lose goals and points that will make them to achieve victory at the end of the game.

I don't think Napoli coach can help the team to grow higher in this summer because, the players are lacking many things in this summer that is making them to struggle with small teams and, it will lead them to end up in 5th position in this tournament.

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November 16, 2023, 02:07:47 PM
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Yes, that's what I'm worried about and sometimes even a new coach will have difficulty providing direction in a team whose quality is very even. We know that Napoli's squad is filled with good players, especially Osimhen and Kvaratskhelia, so if Mazzarri cannot provide his strategy to these two attacking players then he is definitely a failed coach. Sometimes it is not an easy problem to solve being at a club with an even squad depth and if the desired results are not comparable then he will be under more pressure. Responsibilities as a coach at a club with the status of defending champion will certainly become more mentally distracting. However, it looks like we will first see his journey in leading Napoli and if the results continue to be positive then he can get full attention and support from the squad and fans.
There are rumors that Napoli wants Conte but may not be able to get the services of the coach and ultimately return for Mazzarri who I don't think will be too difficult with the current Napoli squad.
Mazzarri can show his quality until his contract runs out. This is a short contract I think Napoli also has other coaches in mind for next season. If it's impossible for Mazzarri to perform well, he could get a longer contract, not just to finish this season.

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November 16, 2023, 02:09:37 PM
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Based on the standings, it is difficult for bettors to make a choice. on the one hand, Inter Milan is more favored by the bookies, but on the other hand also Juventus has a good record recently with the last 7 matches unbeaten. Moreover, this match is a home match for Juventus.

IMO, it would be better if we just wait for live betting, see which team scores first, then choose the opposing team that's behind. The two teams have a small point gap, so it's very likely that a chase will occur in this match.
In this case, it is worth waiting for the start of the match, but I think that this will not bring much clarity, since I expect that the teams will start this match carefully and most likely Juventus will not allow Inter to dominate, so the game may be equal. I would probably even rather skip this match because I can’t determine the favorite in this match, I don’t exclude the possibility of a draw, for Inter this would not be a bad result, since it would allow them to maintain advantage and stay in the top.

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November 16, 2023, 02:36:28 PM
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A draw is much better for placing bets on the Juventus vs Inter Milan match, because these two clubs are equally strong and both want to be at the top of the standings, but Juventus is in good condition in its last few matches, so don't make the wrong bet. in this match because it is difficult to predict..
The odds is pretty small for the double chance at this moment but that's worthy enough consider juventus was also strong enough to face intermilan. Im not satisfied with the odds but i think this will be a tough game for intermilan.
There may probably around 3-4 goals to be made from this game. Juventus will not let intermilan to make the gap become even bigger than before.

I have picked double chance intermilan / juventus. I think that these clubs will be trying so hard to beat each other. The possible for the narrow score to happen is also quite big at this moment too.
This match is one of hardest match to predict at this moment.

The score may be 1-0 / 2-1 depending on how good or bad juventus and intermilan.

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November 16, 2023, 02:38:36 PM
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Based on the standings, it is difficult for bettors to make a choice. on the one hand, Inter Milan is more favored by the bookies, but on the other hand also Juventus has a good record recently with the last 7 matches unbeaten. Moreover, this match is a home match for Juventus.

IMO, it would be better if we just wait for live betting, see which team scores first, then choose the opposing team that's behind. The two teams have a small point gap, so it's very likely that a chase will occur in this match.
In this case, it is worth waiting for the start of the match, but I think that this will not bring much clarity, since I expect that the teams will start this match carefully and most likely Juventus will not allow Inter to dominate, so the game may be equal. I would probably even rather skip this match because I can’t determine the favorite in this match, I don’t exclude the possibility of a draw, for Inter this would not be a bad result, since it would allow them to maintain advantage and stay in the top.
A draw is very possible considering that this is a match between two teams who are in their best form at the moment but we will present a very fierce match, Inter Milan with a dangerous attack and they are also quite productive in scoring goals and Juventus with a very strong defense.
I'm sure this will be the most interesting match in Serie A so far, but even though anything can happen, we all have our own choice of betting on our favorite team or looking at realistic statistics so speculation arises, and I remain confident that Inter Milan's strength will be able to penetrate the tight defense of the Juventus team.

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November 16, 2023, 03:17:07 PM
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Rudi Garcia has been sacked, they called back Mazzarri after 10 years.

Conte is rumored to have refused them, twice.

Well, it was the right decision to fire Rudi Garcia but isn't there another better option for Napoli's new coach? considering that they really need a coach who is very experienced in winning titles to get through this season. Walter Mazzarri was their previous coach and now he has returned after more than 10 years and I think this is an immature decision from Napoli. The last time Walter Mazzarri coached Cagliari was in the 21/22 season and there is no other good record apart from having coached Inter in the 13/14 season. I feel that Napoli will not be able to find their goal this season and they are unlikely to be able to survive the Scudetto competition.

There weren`t many solutions, Napoli continued to lose, the fans continued to boo, now it was just a whirlwind of negativity towards the bottom. Impossible to stop.

Unfortunately he wasn`t up to par, sometimes the challenges are too difficult, we`re not embarrassed to admit it.
Let`s hope he recovers at this point.

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November 16, 2023, 04:26:00 PM
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Based on the standings, it is difficult for bettors to make a choice. on the one hand, Inter Milan is more favored by the bookies, but on the other hand also Juventus has a good record recently with the last 7 matches unbeaten. Moreover, this match is a home match for Juventus.

IMO, it would be better if we just wait for live betting, see which team scores first, then choose the opposing team that's behind. The two teams have a small point gap, so it's very likely that a chase will occur in this match.
In this case, it is worth waiting for the start of the match, but I think that this will not bring much clarity, since I expect that the teams will start this match carefully and most likely Juventus will not allow Inter to dominate, so the game may be equal. I would probably even rather skip this match because I can’t determine the favorite in this match, I don’t exclude the possibility of a draw, for Inter this would not be a bad result, since it would allow them to maintain advantage and stay in the top.

Inter and Juventus at this moment are the two teams that have conceded the fewest goals, so if for example you bet live and wait for the first goal, then it looks like you need to wait for the first goal perhaps until closer to the match over. Because yes, even though I also expect both teams to score goals in this match and also reply to each other's goals, but because considering that both teams have good defenses. So it looks like the match will be tough and or, it looks like it won't be easy to score goals for them in this match and it looks like the match won't have many goals, maybe.

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November 16, 2023, 04:35:06 PM
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There weren`t many solutions, Napoli continued to lose, the fans continued to boo, now it was just a whirlwind of negativity towards the bottom. Impossible to stop.

Unfortunately he wasn`t up to par, sometimes the challenges are too difficult, we`re not embarrassed to admit it.
Let`s hope he recovers at this point.

Yeah too much negativity in the dressing room of Napoli. Lot of controversies has happened ever since the season started and the dressing room isn't like the last season. Glad that board felt something had to change and sacked Garcia but is that enough?. Napoli had appointed Mazzarri now but is he also a good replacement? I have my doubts here. They should have appointed someone better after taking some time.
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November 16, 2023, 04:37:08 PM
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I predicted this, as I didn't see Napoli's satisfaction with Rudy Garcia. But will sacking him eliminate the problem? Of course not. There is no guarantee that a new coach can immediately make the performance of a club go up significantly. But we'll see if their current coach who was also their coach a few years ago will be able to make a difference and bring fresh air to Napoli.
He needs adaptation now and also he will see how strong the depth of players he has in the squad. I hope he can quickly understand the composition of the players he has.
Yes, that's what I'm worried about and sometimes even a new coach will have difficulty providing direction in a team whose quality is very even. We know that Napoli's squad is filled with good players, especially Osimhen and Kvaratskhelia, so if Mazzarri cannot provide his strategy to these two attacking players then he is definitely a failed coach. Sometimes it is not an easy problem to solve being at a club with an even squad depth and if the desired results are not comparable then he will be under more pressure. Responsibilities as a coach at a club with the status of defending champion will certainly become more mentally distracting. However, it looks like we will first see his journey in leading Napoli and if the results continue to be positive then he can get full attention and support from the squad and fans.
I will not judge this coach's performance from one or two matches, because although he is pressured to be able to immediately give his best, he must also first be given the opportunity as an adaptation process that he will do here. I will see the progress of whether he is a good coach or not after they run at least 3 or even 5 matches, I think that is enough time and fair also for the new Napoli coach.
You are right, holding a club with defending champion status will be very difficult, especially now that their expectations are also high after winning last season.

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November 16, 2023, 04:38:15 PM
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In this case, it is worth waiting for the start of the match, but I think that this will not bring much clarity, since I expect that the teams will start this match carefully and most likely Juventus will not allow Inter to dominate, so the game may be equal. I would probably even rather skip this match because I can’t determine the favorite in this match, I don’t exclude the possibility of a draw, for Inter this would not be a bad result, since it would allow them to maintain advantage and stay in the top.

The careful playing of both teams will also provide another choice for bettors, we can choose to bet on the O/U bet and choose goal over. Whatever the circumstances, it will be a win-win solution for bettors, but you must remember that bettors must be patient and continue to pay attention to the match.

I'm sure this will be the most interesting match in Serie A so far, but even though anything can happen, we all have our own choice of betting on our favorite team or looking at realistic statistics so speculation arises, and I remain confident that Inter Milan's strength will be able to penetrate the tight defense of the Juventus team.

Of course. This wouldn't be an interesting match if this match was Inter Milan's home match, but since this is Juventus home match, I doubt that Inter Milan will win easily. Unexpected results could happen even though Inter Milan remains the favorite for the away match.

Inter and Juventus at this moment are the two teams that have conceded the fewest goals, so if for example you bet live and wait for the first goal, then it looks like you need to wait for the first goal perhaps until closer to the match over.

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November 16, 2023, 04:53:03 PM
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With this, I don't really believe that Napoli can get past the clubs above them to win the title and we'll see how Napoli performs after playing against Atalanta in the upcoming match. We'll see how the score turns out for Napoli.
It also looks like it will be difficult for Napoli to win the match, especially since Atalanta is also playing at home and will play optimally not to lose points, I think this is a difficult match for Napoli seeing that this season Napoli is not playing as well as last season and we all saw that there their performance has decreased and it is also possible that it will be difficult to chase the title this season.

The bad results obtained by Napoli in several matches are not very satisfying, making people feel unsure about Napoli's current ability and strength. To beat Atalanta at home, of course they need to fight hard to win, Rudi Garcia must be able to put pressure on his team to get good results. Also remembering that Rudi Garcia may have a lot of pressure from supporters to make Napoli better and more consistent.
If you view what Napoli are playing in this summer, you will be convince that they don't have the strength to return back to first position in the Italy serie A table because, their performance is very poor and their coach is not doing anything to show what will make their fans believe that they can still improve before the end of the tournament. There are many people that will not predict for the favour of Napoli in their next game because, Atlanta know how to be strong in their home to make the game difficult for their opponent to lose goals and points that will make them to achieve victory at the end of the game.

I don't think Napoli coach can help the team to grow higher in this summer because, the players are lacking many things in this summer that is making them to struggle with small teams and, it will lead them to end up in 5th position in this tournament.

Rudi Garcia already reduced the mentality of the players and the club , getting back to the top won't be an easy feat to climb and achieve considering how improved Juventus and Inter Milan have been over the past few match games in the Seria A.
It's been finally confirmed that Rudi Garcia has been sacked and will.no longer continue the management of the club. I hope to see improvement ahead of the season and since they'll be facing Real Madrid in the next two games.

Ending fifth position might be an understatement, they could not fail to qualify for any of the European Competitions next season, amongst the Champions League, Europa League and Conference League.

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November 16, 2023, 05:22:52 PM
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Ending fifth position might be an understatement, they could not fail to qualify for any of the European Competitions next season, amongst the Champions League, Europa League and Conference League.

To be in 4th or 5th position at the end of the season is still very possible for Napoli, as long as the mentality of the Napoli players does not get worse and the player's relationship with the manager also improves. If this can be overcome, looking at the inconsistency of Roma, Atalanta, Lazio and AC Milan, it feels like there is still a chance for Napoli. The pressure is definitely being experienced by coaches and players, this is a problem that must be the main focus so that it can be resolved as quickly as possible.

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November 16, 2023, 05:26:34 PM
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In terms of intrigue, a 1-1 result or a Juventus victory would be the ideal outcome of this game. If Inter wins, it will practically be the end of the race for the title. Otherwise, Milan and Napoli will have a chance to join the race again. Although in the next round Milan plays Fiorentina, and Napoli plays Atalanta, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they lose points.
A rare case, but the next tour will be a tour where all the top 6 teams play among themselves.

I have honestly never considered a Juventus Turin loss in this game as the end of the title race. If that was the case, it could have been called a day whenever a team was 5 points ahead in any league. It would still be a 2-ball game. Juventus Turin could just get back in track and keep winning their games and there is only one loss needed and Inter Milan would be in striking distance. I agree that it would destroy a lot of the excitement in the league for the moment, but it would not mean the title for Inter just yet.

Theoretically, you can lose any advantage, but if Inter wins now, I think their quotes will be about 1.4. And this will be quite logical - 13 games + won personal matches is a distance where luck has very little meaning and it is difficult to blame the current situation in the tournament on it. If one team is better than others in such a segment, then it will be more likely that after completing another similar segment, its advantage will increase. But I agree that it won’t be exactly the end, but close to it.

Obviously the advantage would grow by a lot and the bookmakers would take that into account, but since it is early season there could still come some more volatility into the performance of any team. Napoli had such a strong start last season and yet they ended up with 10 games they did not win. Any performances of the beginning of the season can't simply be interpolated until the end of the season. I know that you know that, but still two draws for Inter and two wins for Juventus would make the fight so close again. But let's wait for this game and then continue our discussion. Wink

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November 16, 2023, 05:28:10 PM
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It also looks like it will be difficult for Napoli to win the match, especially since Atalanta is also playing at home and will play optimally not to lose points, I think this is a difficult match for Napoli seeing that this season Napoli is not playing as well as last season and we all saw that there their performance has decreased and it is also possible that it will be difficult to chase the title this season.

The bad results obtained by Napoli in several matches are not very satisfying, making people feel unsure about Napoli's current ability and strength. To beat Atalanta at home, of course they need to fight hard to win, Rudi Garcia must be able to put pressure on his team to get good results. Also remembering that Rudi Garcia may have a lot of pressure from supporters to make Napoli better and more consistent.

The teams are close neighbors in the standings and their statistics are also similar, so bookmakers see this game as equal:

2.66 - 3.45 - 2.62

But I will most likely (depending on how successful I am in betting on national team games) bet on Napoli because the change of coach should spur the team. At least in the short term, Napoli must play at their best. And 2.62 is a good compensation for the risk.

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November 16, 2023, 05:37:13 PM
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Actually, I won't blame Garcia completely and I won't defend him either, but we just have to look at the positive side because Garcia isn't that great and doesn't have the achievements of previous coach Spalletti, but from this bad performance we also have to look at the other side like Victor Osimhen. who cannot compete to defend Napoli and Osimhen's side is not what it used to be before having problems with Napoli so it is natural that Osimhen is a little discouraged after having problems with his own club.
With this, I don't really believe that Napoli can get past the clubs above them to win the title and we'll see how Napoli performs after playing against Atalanta in the upcoming match. We'll see how the score turns out for Napoli.
The newly appointed coach will take off where Rudi Garcia left off. What did Aurelio de Laurentiis hope to begin with? Appointing a coach who was fired by the Al Nassr board of directors in the Saudi Pro League.  Napoli will never develop under such a coach because he lacks experience and the capacity to reunite a team that appears dissatisfied at the moment; perhaps he should be given more time, but this is an elite club where everyone expects nothing but the highest performance from the club. There's no time and the earlier the new boss reacts to the situation on ground the better.
Actually, looking at some of the news that previously when Rudi Garcia was chosen as coach it was also at the suggestion of Spalletti because it was considered the same leadership style but in the end the flying hours and lack of coaching style actually made this mess even though Rudi Garcia and Spalleti's coaching styles were almost the same but in terms of performance we know what the results were like.
Now I think Napoli should only focus on what Mazzarri will do bcause in the end they will still be highlighted especially for Mazzarri who now has a heavy burden because he is required to be able to bring Napoli to a better direction because if not then the criticism that was thrown at Rudi Garcia will also approach him for the rest of the season at Napoli.

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