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February 20, 2024, 07:04:48 AM
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It was very unfortunate that Milan got a defeat against a small team like Monza. Milan missed the chance to overtake Juventus in the second place. If they won the match, they already returned to the second place now. The red card got by Luka Jovic was a disaster, it makes AC Milan difficult to play with their best form. AC Milan lost 1 player in minute 52', it was still in the early of second half of the match. Even worse, AC Milan lost 1 player when they were 2 goals behind.

For Monza, it was a great game, they played impressively. Leading 2 goals in the first half of the match, it becomes the key that they could beat AC Milan at their home. Although AC Milan dominated the match, Monza showed that they played more effectively. If they could keep a good game like this match, Monza can finish the season in the top 10.

Wins like this comes from other some shock for the team and the fans also. Monza wouldn’t have expected to win AC Milan at home with two goals margin. It was an unexpected win for them and they deserved they put in the effort to make it happen for themselves. It is now left for Monza to see to how they can keep up the winning in their upcoming matches. Sometimes, wins like this come with a lot of courage to do more especially when playing with teams of the same contemporaries like them. This should make them do more in their upcoming matches and keep the tempo high on their side and if they are able to pull through again like this in one or two matches coming next, their opponents will be scared of facing them and be more sceptical with their approach to them when they meet.

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Wins like this comes from other some shock for the team and the fans also. Monza wouldn’t have expected to win AC Milan at home with two goals margin. It was an unexpected win for them and they deserved they put in the effort to make it happen for themselves. It is now left for Monza to see to how they can keep up the winning in their upcoming matches. Sometimes, wins like this come with a lot of courage to do more especially when playing with teams of the same contemporaries like them. This should make them do more in their upcoming matches and keep the tempo high on their side and if they are able to pull through again like this in one or two matches coming next, their opponents will be scared of facing them and be more sceptical with their approach to them when they meet.
Monza, who managed to beat Milan in yesterday's match, has an even bigger chance of getting into the top 10. Now Monza is still ranked 11th but if Monza can maintain their victory even in the next match then of course Monza will be closer to overtaking Torino who is ranked 10th. Because Torino will most likely lose points in the following week. Because the opponent that Torino will face is an opponent that is currently in a good trend, namely AS Roma which is under the control of De Rossi, who has proven that Roma can approach a higher ranking and continue to get quite good results since De Rossi took over the coaching bench. .

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February 20, 2024, 08:01:29 AM
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ecause Torino will most likely lose points in the following week. Because the opponent that Torino will face is an opponent that is currently in a good trend, namely AS Roma which is under the control of De Rossi, who has proven that Roma can approach a higher ranking and continue to get quite good results since De Rossi took over the coaching bench. .
Don't they have a game in hand though? So the difference can be between 3 and 6 points. Not really that big if the plan is to overtake each other since they will likely lose points here and there. On the other hand, I don't think being 10th or 11th matters that much, or is there any financial incentive that I miss? Being ranked higher is always good, but you don't necessarily have to consider finishing 11th as a failure if your team is a mid-table team to begin with. That being said, Torino consistently finished 10th in the last 2 seasons iirc, while last year they finished 10th and Monza's 11th. It would be interesting if it was repeated again.

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February 20, 2024, 08:52:00 AM
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Monza, who managed to beat Milan in yesterday's match, has an even bigger chance of getting into the top 10. Now Monza is still ranked 11th but if Monza can maintain their victory even in the next match then of course Monza will be closer to overtaking Torino who is ranked 10th. Because Torino will most likely lose points in the following week. Because the opponent that Torino will face is an opponent that is currently in a good trend, namely AS Roma which is under the control of De Rossi, who has proven that Roma can approach a higher ranking and continue to get quite good results since De Rossi took over the coaching bench. .
It is very possible, Monza is currently in 11th place in the Serie A standings and their performance is quite good in the last few matches by being able to win 2 matches from their last 5 matches and 2 draws and 1 defeat, this is not a bad result for a mid-table team .
We cannot expect defeat from other teams because everything is possible, in football nothing is impossible.
Monza just needs to consistently maintain its performance and winning against AC MIlan is of course very important for those who can support the team's self-confidence to be able to perform better in the next match.

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February 20, 2024, 09:50:45 AM
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Wins like this comes from other some shock for the team and the fans also. Monza wouldn’t have expected to win AC Milan at home with two goals margin. It was an unexpected win for them and they deserved they put in the effort to make it happen for themselves. It is now left for Monza to see to how they can keep up the winning in their upcoming matches. Sometimes, wins like this come with a lot of courage to do more especially when playing with teams of the same contemporaries like them. This should make them do more in their upcoming matches and keep the tempo high on their side and if they are able to pull through again like this in one or two matches coming next, their opponents will be scared of facing them and be more sceptical with their approach to them when they meet.
Monza, who managed to beat Milan in yesterday's match, has an even bigger chance of getting into the top 10. Now Monza is still ranked 11th but if Monza can maintain their victory even in the next match then of course Monza will be closer to overtaking Torino who is ranked 10th. Because Torino will most likely lose points in the following week. Because the opponent that Torino will face is an opponent that is currently in a good trend, namely AS Roma which is under the control of De Rossi, who has proven that Roma can approach a higher ranking and continue to get quite good results since De Rossi took over the coaching bench. .

you should never underestimate small teams, unfortunately in Italy this often happens. See how Atalanta silently managed to climb positions in the table without anyone saying anything or noticing. In the meantime he has won one match after another and is now in the cup zone. Just to show that you shouldn't underestimate anyone.
Obviously the first three positions in the ranking have become static now, making the championship a little boring.

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February 20, 2024, 09:52:46 AM
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It was truly a surprising result. Monza had unique statistics in that match. They scored 2 goals at the end of the first half, then scored the next 2 goals at the end of the second half. Did they play with all-out tactics at the end of the half? In essence, they managed to surprise people because they managed to beat AC Milan.

I don't think there is any motivation for AC Milan to move Juventus in second place. This means that they are currently 7 points ahead of Bologna so they don't need to worry about being overtaken by Bologna or Atalanta and not qualifying for the Champions League next season. I think with the current number of points Milan just need to get a few wins and not chase anything in the league.
I don't think any surprised match result when AC Milan defeated by Monza, actually Milan can balanced the games and hold draw Monza until 88th minutes although they had play with ten players. Its normal for team when losing their players since Luka Jovic received red card since 52th minutes and more than 40 minutes left Milan had to play with ten players. Losses focus few minutes matches ended and Milan conceded two goals in 90th minutes and second half additional time. Probably has difference match result if Milan not loss their players and potential for securing three points against Monza.

Current remaining 8 points from Atalanta, I think Milan still on secure position for Champion League spot standings, they will back to winning perform next match and settle on top fourth standings position for qualifying to UEFA Champion League next season.


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February 20, 2024, 09:58:57 AM
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Monza, who managed to beat Milan in yesterday's match, has an even bigger chance of getting into the top 10. Now Monza is still ranked 11th but if Monza can maintain their victory even in the next match then of course Monza will be closer to overtaking Torino who is ranked 10th. Because Torino will most likely lose points in the following week. Because the opponent that Torino will face is an opponent that is currently in a good trend, namely AS Roma which is under the control of De Rossi, who has proven that Roma can approach a higher ranking and continue to get quite good results since De Rossi took over the coaching bench. .
Monza does have a good chance of overtaking Torino. But the problem is that in 2 weeks Monza will also face Roma which could make Monza lose points again. But fortunately Torino also has a difficult 3 weeks ahead. Because Torino will face Roma, Fiorentina and Napoli. And maybe Monza can make the best use of this so as not to lose points in the next 3 weeks. And Torino actually also has 1 postponed match. But I don't think this postponed match will result in Torino getting any points. Because the opponent that Torino will face in the postponed match is Lazio, which is also a level above Torino every season. Even though this season they both seem to be at the same level.

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February 20, 2024, 11:41:21 AM
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I don't think any surprised match result when AC Milan defeated by Monza, actually Milan can balanced the games and hold draw Monza until 88th minutes although they had play with ten players. Its normal for team when losing their players since Luka Jovic received red card since 52th minutes and more than 40 minutes left Milan had to play with ten players. Losses focus few minutes matches ended and Milan conceded two goals in 90th minutes and second half additional time. Probably has difference match result if Milan not loss their players and potential for securing three points against Monza.
That stupid red card from Luka Jovic costs AC Milan a shocked loss to Monza but the player is facing with an additional punishment. It will potentially put Luka Jovic on suspended longer than initial ban on him.

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Current remaining 8 points from Atalanta, I think Milan still on secure position for Champion League spot standings, they will back to winning perform next match and settle on top fourth standings position for qualifying to UEFA Champion League next season.
AC Milan looks to be safe at the second position and they are similar to Juventus, both of them don't have chance to beat Inter Milan in this season for Scudetto. AC Milan still have Europa League to fight and they already got big win in a first leg play-off. Securing their third position in Serie A or winning Europa League will help them going to Champions League next season. They have two ways to achieve that ticket to Champions League 2024 - 2025.

Monza, who managed to beat Milan in yesterday's match, has an even bigger chance of getting into the top 10. Now Monza is still ranked 11th but if Monza can maintain their victory even in the next match then of course Monza will be closer to overtaking Torino who is ranked 10th. Because Torino will most likely lose points in the following week. Because the opponent that Torino will face is an opponent that is currently in a good trend, namely AS Roma which is under the control of De Rossi, who has proven that Roma can approach a higher ranking and continue to get quite good results since De Rossi took over the coaching bench. .
Monza can hope that Torino will lose to Roma but the standings show something interesting. Clubs in a first half have positive goal differences and clubs in a second half all have negative goal differences including Monza.

Monza can fight for higher position in this season and consider it as an achievement for a small club that ranked up to Serie A recent months. It will be their gift for the ex-President Silvio Berlusconi who passed away months ago.

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Monza, who managed to beat Milan in yesterday's match, has an even bigger chance of getting into the top 10. Now Monza is still ranked 11th but if Monza can maintain their victory even in the next match then of course Monza will be closer to overtaking Torino who is ranked 10th. Because Torino will most likely lose points in the following week. Because the opponent that Torino will face is an opponent that is currently in a good trend, namely AS Roma which is under the control of De Rossi, who has proven that Roma can approach a higher ranking and continue to get quite good results since De Rossi took over the coaching bench. .
Monza does have a good chance of overtaking Torino. But the problem is that in 2 weeks Monza will also face Roma which could make Monza lose points again. But fortunately Torino also has a difficult 3 weeks ahead. Because Torino will face Roma, Fiorentina and Napoli. And maybe Monza can make the best use of this so as not to lose points in the next 3 weeks. And Torino actually also has 1 postponed match. But I don't think this postponed match will result in Torino getting any points. Because the opponent that Torino will face in the postponed match is Lazio, which is also a level above Torino every season. Even though this season they both seem to be at the same level.

Monza's performance has been steady in recent matches. In the last 4 matches they have won two and drawn two matches. After a 4-2 win against a strong side like AC Milan, the Monza players are now very confident. If the players are confident, I think it is possible for Monza to do well against the big teams. Roma is definitely a strong team. However, if Monza's match strategy is good, MOnza can earn points against Roma.

It is difficult to predict the performance of the Torino team. Although the team's attack is not strong, their defense is strong. The team conceded only 20 goals in 24 matches. In most matches, Torino's goal is to draw the match and gain 1 point. If Monza can continue their good performance, they have the potential to finish ninth/tenth in the points table.

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Monza does have a good chance of overtaking Torino. But the problem is that in 2 weeks Monza will also face Roma which could make Monza lose points again. But fortunately Torino also has a difficult 3 weeks ahead. Because Torino will face Roma, Fiorentina and Napoli. And maybe Monza can make the best use of this so as not to lose points in the next 3 weeks. And Torino actually also has 1 postponed match. But I don't think this postponed match will result in Torino getting any points. Because the opponent that Torino will face in the postponed match is Lazio, which is also a level above Torino every season. Even though this season they both seem to be at the same level.

Monza's performance has been steady in recent matches. In the last 4 matches they have won two and drawn two matches. After a 4-2 win against a strong side like AC Milan, the Monza players are now very confident. If the players are confident, I think it is possible for Monza to do well against the big teams. Roma is definitely a strong team. However, if Monza's match strategy is good, MOnza can earn points against Roma.

It is difficult to predict the performance of the Torino team. Although the team's attack is not strong, their defense is strong. The team conceded only 20 goals in 24 matches. In most matches, Torino's goal is to draw the match and gain 1 point. If Monza can continue their good performance, they have the potential to finish ninth/tenth in the points table.
The interesting thing about Torino is that they have a pretty solid defense. And their strategy always prioritizes defense. So, among all the clubs in Serie A, Torino is actually in third place as the team that conceded the fewest balls. Inter Milan is of course the strongest in defense because they only conceded 12 goals in 24 matches and Juventus is the second team that doesn't concede as many goals with only conceding 17 goals in 25 matches. Meanwhile, Torino is in third place as a team that doesn't concede a lot of balls because Torino only conceded 20 goals in 24 matches. But the problem is that Torino's goal productivity is quite poor. And Monza were slightly better at scoring goals. But these two teams have always been side by side in the standings since last season.

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February 20, 2024, 01:29:51 PM
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I don't think any surprised match result when AC Milan defeated by Monza, actually Milan can balanced the games and hold draw Monza until 88th minutes although they had play with ten players. Its normal for team when losing their players since Luka Jovic received red card since 52th minutes and more than 40 minutes left Milan had to play with ten players. Losses focus few minutes matches ended and Milan conceded two goals in 90th minutes and second half additional time. Probably has difference match result if Milan not loss their players and potential for securing three points against Monza.
That stupid red card from Luka Jovic costs AC Milan a shocked loss to Monza but the player is facing with an additional punishment. It will potentially put Luka Jovic on suspended longer than initial ban on him.
I see Luka Jovic as a special player and even though he rarely gets a place in the starting line up, when the team needs him he can always make a contribution. Luka Jovic is often the supersub and when Milan needed a dramatic win he was there to complement the victory. What I saw in the match against Monza made me know that every player always has a bad side, regardless of having another important role at the club.

It would be a shame if he would be out for longer and usually a red card indicates being absent for the next 2 matches. However, if there is something more burdensome, it will be quite detrimental to Milan if they need a crucial win later. But actually there is no need to panic for Milan because they still have Olivier Giroud and Noah Okafor, I think these two strikers will complement each other in a tense match.

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I don't think any surprised match result when AC Milan defeated by Monza, actually Milan can balanced the games and hold draw Monza until 88th minutes although they had play with ten players. Its normal for team when losing their players since Luka Jovic received red card since 52th minutes and more than 40 minutes left Milan had to play with ten players. Losses focus few minutes matches ended and Milan conceded two goals in 90th minutes and second half additional time. Probably has difference match result if Milan not loss their players and potential for securing three points against Monza.

Current remaining 8 points from Atalanta, I think Milan still on secure position for Champion League spot standings, they will back to winning perform next match and settle on top fourth standings position for qualifying to UEFA Champion League next season.


The surprising thing about this match was actually not about Milan losing to Monza itself. But what was surprising was that Monza was able to score 2 goals at the end of the first half and one of them was thanks to a penalty kick. And another surprise was that Milan was able to get 2 goals back even though playing with 10 players. This indicates that Milan lost focus in the first half. But Milan improved in the second half. Unfortunately, Milan improved when they lost one player.

Milan is still in a safe position ranked 3rd in the standings. The most important thing is that Milan cannot lose points again in the next matches.

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Inter Milan is unstoppable, 9 point from Juventus.
The ladder is consolidated, Inter Milan, Juventus, AC Milan..

This season belongs to the Blue, all the lines and strategies that Inter have this season are perfect, their performance unlike Inter in the last few seasons, which has often showing inconsistent results. Juventus, which initially posed a threat for Inter, also seems to be having difficulty catching up after lose from Inter. Even though Inter still have a lot of games to win, I see the trophy is with them now.

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Monza, who managed to beat Milan in yesterday's match, has an even bigger chance of getting into the top 10. Now Monza is still ranked 11th but if Monza can maintain their victory even in the next match then of course Monza will be closer to overtaking Torino who is ranked 10th. Because Torino will most likely lose points in the following week. Because the opponent that Torino will face is an opponent that is currently in a good trend, namely AS Roma which is under the control of De Rossi, who has proven that Roma can approach a higher ranking and continue to get quite good results since De Rossi took over the coaching bench. .
It was really surprising to see Monza succeed in silencing Milan and that was their biggest win this season. Milan, who were so favored, were unable to make Monza surrender and instead Monza seemed to have full strength to win the match. Monza is one step away from being able to make other teams quite panic with their presence and they will succeed in erasing their image as a bottom team. This week will be tense for Monza because they will get another advantage if Torino loses and as you said Roma will continue to dominate with a win.
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I don't think any surprised match result when AC Milan defeated by Monza, actually Milan can balanced the games and hold draw Monza until 88th minutes although they had play with ten players. Its normal for team when losing their players since Luka Jovic received red card since 52th minutes and more than 40 minutes left Milan had to play with ten players. Losses focus few minutes matches ended and Milan conceded two goals in 90th minutes and second half additional time. Probably has difference match result if Milan not loss their players and potential for securing three points against Monza.

Current remaining 8 points from Atalanta, I think Milan still on secure position for Champion League spot standings, they will back to winning perform next match and settle on top fourth standings position for qualifying to UEFA Champion League next season.


The surprising thing about this match was actually not about Milan losing to Monza itself. But what was surprising was that Monza was able to score 2 goals at the end of the first half and one of them was thanks to a penalty kick. And another surprise was that Milan was able to get 2 goals back even though playing with 10 players. This indicates that Milan lost focus in the first half. But Milan improved in the second half. Unfortunately, Milan improved when they lost one player.

Milan is still in a safe position ranked 3rd in the standings. The most important thing is that Milan cannot lose points again in the next matches.
I call it Monza just got lucky in the second half to get 2 additional scores after Milan striker Luka Jovic committed a foul and ended up with a red card which gave Monza the lead.
Milan will not possibly lose to a weak club that is far below them because Milan's consistency is very high, but in yesterday's match they made an unintentional mistake.
Yes, I agree with you, even though Milan only competed with 10 players, they managed to get 2 scores and those were all scores from their mainstay players, but unfortunately they ended up losing when the defense tried to help the attack line to score again.

If at that time after Giroud and Pulisic scored and Stefano Pioli gave a warning to hold on until the match ended, I'm sure Milan would not have lost and it would be better to draw than to end up losing.
Maybe it's all because the Milan players underestimated Monza a little and tried to keep getting scores even with only 10 players with high self-confidence, making the Milan players lose control and not realizing that it was a danger sign for the Milan defense which was very easy to attack and strangely Stefano Pioli did not realize that several times Monza had carried out attacks which should have given Pioli a signal to order his troops to defend.

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February 20, 2024, 03:21:06 PM
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Monza vs Milan in the match of two teams Monza team scored 4 goals and Milan team scored 2 goals in today's match. The team is 3rd in the points table but Milan team will lose the match due to such a bad performance in today's match I didn't think. I bet in support of Milan team  Lost the bet. Monza team played very well from start to finish in today's match to win by 4 goals.

This little joke by the team coached by Pioli practically cost me the bet, I could think of everything except that AC Milan lost against Monza.
I am truly disappointed and horrified: not only did he lose but he lost by a wide margin, which was even more serious and humiliating.
I think Pioli is really not good coach.

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February 20, 2024, 03:21:52 PM
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Monza, who managed to beat Milan in yesterday's match, has an even bigger chance of getting into the top 10. Now Monza is still ranked 11th but if Monza can maintain their victory even in the next match then of course Monza will be closer to overtaking Torino who is ranked 10th.
I was surprised with the performance of Monza because the team doesn't have much quality players that can influence other team and also considering how this season has not really on there favour but however the efforts and determination they had on there match against Ac Milan is what surprises me because that match reminds of Bayern Munich and Bochum because everybody was thinking from the beginning that Bayern Munich will win them because there players cannot be compared with Bochum but at the end it turn out bad
for Bayern Munich, perhaps that's exactly what happen on Ac Milan and Monza match because it was surprising to everybody on the outcome of the match.

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February 20, 2024, 03:24:25 PM
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Inter Milan is unstoppable, 9 point from Juventus.
The ladder is consolidated, Inter Milan, Juventus, AC Milan..

This season belongs to the Blue, all the lines and strategies that Inter have this season are perfect, their performance unlike Inter in the last few seasons, which has often showing inconsistent results. Juventus, which initially posed a threat for Inter, also seems to be having difficulty catching up after lose from Inter. Even though Inter still have a lot of games to win, I see the trophy is with them now.

About Juventus, which was previously a strong candidate for winning the Scudetto this season, because Juventus only played in the domestic league and also, at the beginning of the season until the middle of this season Juventus can still be cosnsiten with good results. But unfortunately, in the second half of this season Juventus again experienced a decline in performance and of course, with a decline in performance like that, Juventus have had bad results lately. But unfortunately, at the same time Inter are still consistent with the performance and good results they get so Juventus are far behind in the title race.

So yes, with results like that it certainly becomes clearer that at this moment Inter already have a safe position because of such a wide gap in points. Also about Juventus experiencing a decline in quality lately, then I hope Milan will be able to overtake Juventus in second place. Because anyway, Juventus is really still not strong enough to maintain its position in second place, so it will be a great chance for Milan to finish in second place this season.

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February 20, 2024, 03:26:46 PM
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AC Milan, who had to play with 10 players from the start of the second half, of course made it very difficult for them to keep up with Monza's game. 2 goals at the end of the match was quite normal because Monza, who had the advantage of more players, continued to attack so that in the end they scored 2 goals at the end. the match is the result of their hard work.
However, I will not exaggerate AC Milan's defeat, in football many unexpected things will happen and that is a very normal thing.
I think it's normal for surprising things to happen in football and we shouldn't get too upset about losing one game. AC Milan had a tough time playing with only 10 players which made it difficult for them to do well against Monza. Monza did a good job taking advantage of having more players and scored two goals near the end of the game. This shows that they didn't give up and played smart.

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