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May 13, 2024, 04:00:47 PM
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Just the facts: under Mourinho, Roma had 6th place + the Conference League title, and in the second case, 6th place and the Europa League final. Without Mourinho, Roma still has the same 6th place and nothing more. Maybe someone likes Roma’s new game, it’s really more spectacular since there are more goals in both directions, but in terms of the result I don’t see any improvement.
I am sure that in the second season without Mourinho things will be no better than now, and I am also sure that it will not be possible even to reach the semi-finals of the Europa League.
I'm a passionate fan Jose Mourinho and his style if football but in this case, I'll state my opinion without being sentimental with my judgement. Jose Mourinho without doubt is a great football manager and one of the greatest of his era but when there's this jinx that's believed to have bedeviled his managerial career and that's what many football pundits refer as "third season syndrome". In most of the clubs he's managed since he was signed by Chelsea in the summer of 2004 after helping Porto win the UEFA Champions League in that same year, he's always not been able to manage the team for a complete three seasons because of his poor results in each of the third seasons with the clubs. When you carefully look at the clubs he's managed since then, you'll agree to the fact that he's always been sacked in his third season as a result of poor results and that was why he was also shown the exit door at AS Roma earlier this season.
Since the current manager Daniele De Rossi took over the managerial position at Roma, the club have improved with their performances unlike what we saw at the start of the season.

I wrote at the beginning of the season that it would be an interesting season in terms of testing whether the curse of the third season would work or not. And as we see, it worked. But it’s not about Mourinho at all, I wrote “just the facts” and that’s exactly what I meant. Roma management made a decision and got results. Are these the results they wanted? Hardly. Can Roma get a better result than with Mourinho without serious investment? Also unlikely.

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May 13, 2024, 04:15:59 PM
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Atalanta look very underrated but from what I saw yesterday in their game against Roma, I remember that they are also the team that knocked out Liverpool that was very strong this season, and were favorites to win the the Europa competition. Bayer Leverkusen do not need to overlook these Atalanta players, they have to be very careful because Atalanta can possibly be the first team to break their 49 games unbeaten run.
Atalanta will play Juve next who have drawn their last five games , It won't be an easy game, but Atalanta can win it even while trying to make sure key players are not stressed in the game, so they can be very fit for the finals.
Atlanta has proven to us how they can remain consistent in winning in the league despite being in a very tight schedule at the moment, before the game starts of course Roma are favorites in the match, especially they are ambitious to take revenge for the defeat from Leverkusen in the Europa League, Roma who revived after being coached by De Rossi is now starting to experience a negative trend after they failed to win in 5 matches Last in all competitions, Roma defeat to Atlanta certainly makes their current position in the table look very difficult to compete for a place in next season Champions League.


In the next match Atlanta will face Juventus in the Coppa Italia, of course for now Atlanta concentration and consistency will be very tested because they must be able to beat Juventus to be able to win the championship trophy while being able to keep their chances in the Champions League zone and also the Europa League final this season, Atlanta has a very tight schedule and requires them to stay focused and maintain their game performance.

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May 13, 2024, 04:30:43 PM
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After De Rossi took over as coach, Roma managed to consistently perform well in some matches. But in recent times we have not seen good performances from Roma. The team failed to win in the last two matches. Roma players failed to perform well against Leverkusen in the semi-finals of the Europa League. And as usual Roma team is not able to play well against Atalanta in today's match.

Atalanta is leading 2-0 at the end of the first half. Atalanta's players are dominating the home matches. In the first half we only saw attacks from Atalanta's players. Roma's players could not make any strong attacks.
If they lose this match, there will be no chance for Roma to occupy the fifth place in the table. The Roma team will have to play on the Europe League platform in the next season as well.

If the end of the AS Roma season ended Serie A in the sixth place, it could be considered consistent because De Rossi only continued the work left by Jose Mourinho.
But AS Roma still has two more matches that are worth waiting for how the results are. If it fails in one of the matches from the remaining two matches, then there is no change in position in the table table.

Against Bayer Leverkusen in leg 2, AS Roma's game is far better than leg 1 which drew a 2-0 defeat.
I am happy because my hope that Roma made one goal to be 2-1 that saved my betting list because I chose Over 2.5 in the match.

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May 13, 2024, 04:43:19 PM
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Fiorentina vs Monza

Fiorentina is clearly aiming to win over Monza in this match to target the position occupied by Napoli.
For Monza, any results will no longer affect their position in the standings because they are safe.

The bookie makes Fiorentina the favorite to win with odds of 1.55. Odds for draw selection 4.55. Over 2.5 odds are also not that big.
If you want to include the Fiorentina vs Monza match in your betting list, be careful.


I refrain myself from take a bet on this one. This is a very hard match to predict. The better if you take a look at the previous head to head. It's always ended with narrow score.



I strongly believe that if the match is gonna end with narrow score as the final result. It's very hard to imagine monza / fiorentina can win with big scores. I do agree with you if any bettors who are keen to take this match shall always be careful.

I would rather than bet on the asian handicap -0.5 or -0.75 for fiorentina. There will be no draw in this game. Fiorentina may be struggling to beat monza but it's likely that if bookies's choice is right.

Fiorentina is gonna win the game soon. Im not even doubting it.

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May 13, 2024, 04:46:20 PM
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Just the facts: under Mourinho, Roma had 6th place + the Conference League title, and in the second case, 6th place and the Europa League final. Without Mourinho, Roma still has the same 6th place and nothing more. Maybe someone likes Roma’s new game, it’s really more spectacular since there are more goals in both directions, but in terms of the result I don’t see any improvement.
I am sure that in the second season without Mourinho things will be no better than now, and I am also sure that it will not be possible even to reach the semi-finals of the Europa League.
The Seria A is tough a every manager knows that. AS Roma have not been able to catch up the expecting coming in from other elite teams. José Mourinho have put a standard for AS Roma since his arrival although it quite unfortunate he got dismissed due to the poor performance he recorded with the club. AS Roma clinched for excellent results and they'll precisely do everything to get back in shape and no longer face back to back challenges.

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May 13, 2024, 04:48:24 PM
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After De Rossi took over as coach, Roma managed to consistently perform well in some matches. But in recent times we have not seen good performances from Roma. The team failed to win in the last two matches. Roma players failed to perform well against Leverkusen in the semi-finals of the Europa League. And as usual Roma team is not able to play well against Atalanta in today's match.

Atalanta is leading 2-0 at the end of the first half. Atalanta's players are dominating the home matches. In the first half we only saw attacks from Atalanta's players. Roma's players could not make any strong attacks.
If they lose this match, there will be no chance for Roma to occupy the fifth place in the table. The Roma team will have to play on the Europe League platform in the next season as well.

If the end of the AS Roma season ended Serie A in the sixth place, it could be considered consistent because De Rossi only continued the work left by Jose Mourinho.
But AS Roma still has two more matches that are worth waiting for how the results are. If it fails in one of the matches from the remaining two matches, then there is no change in position in the table table.

Against Bayer Leverkusen in leg 2, AS Roma's game is far better than leg 1 which drew a 2-0 defeat.
I am happy because my hope that Roma made one goal to be 2-1 that saved my betting list because I chose Over 2.5 in the match.

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From basically the first time he stepped in front of a microphone for a press conference this season, Juventus manager Max Allegri has maintained that his team’s No. 1 objective was to qualify for the Champions League. That didn’t change as his team racked up wins in the first half of the season. That didn’t change even as he made cops and robbers jokes when Juve were neck and neck with league leaders Inter Milan.
source: https://www.blackwhitereadallover.com/2024/5/12/24154925/juventus-qualifies-for-champions-league-2024-serie-a-team-news-cristiano-giuntoli-max-allegri

This was a very important match for Roma. they were unable to win this one. I understand that they were actually giving a lot of importance to the competition of the Europa League. But there was a very good chance for them to actually finish on the fifth position of the table and actually participate in the Champions League competition. But now it is Atalanta who are most probably going to participate in the Champions League and Roma is still going to participate in the Europa League in the next season as well.

By the way, the loss for Roma in this match was pretty convincing. Because they were unable to create a lot of chances but on the other hand their opponents were creating chances out of nowhere. Great performance from Atalanta. And they definitely deserved to win this match.

For some reason, I am starting to think that the performance from Roma is going to be worse in the next season.

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May 13, 2024, 05:30:06 PM
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Atalanta is freakin' on fire now. They have some great chances to still get into the Champions League and who would have thought that Juventus gets worse and worse this season...

One of the most interesting games coming up now is the Coppa Italia final where Atalanta can hurt Juventus for the first time, and the second time would be if they win their remaining Serie A games, which I think is very possible, and Juventus drops points one more time. That would be a disastrous end of the season for the club and I think that would entail a lot of consequences of all kinds. It is unbelievable that they could still lose it all. They tied their games against three teams where a draw is unacceptable.

Everyone talks about Vlahovic, but he sucks so hard. He is just not the striker that the club was hoping for.
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May 13, 2024, 05:47:15 PM
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Atalanta is freakin' on fire now. They have some great chances to still get into the Champions League and who would have thought that Juventus gets worse and worse this season...

One of the most interesting games coming up now is the Coppa Italia final where Atalanta can hurt Juventus for the first time, and the second time would be if they win their remaining Serie A games, which I think is very possible, and Juventus drops points one more time. That would be a disastrous end of the season for the club and I think that would entail a lot of consequences of all kinds. It is unbelievable that they could still lose it all. They tied their games against three teams where a draw is unacceptable.

Everyone talks about Vlahovic, but he sucks so hard. He is just not the striker that the club was hoping for.

I think Juventus is definitely going to take some necessary steps. They have not been able to win a single match in the last five. In the last match,(Juventus vs Salernitana) they literally went up against the team that was at the bottom of the table. If you cannot win a single match in the last five as Juventus, and if you are unable to win a match against the team that is at the absolute bottom of the table and is definitely going to get relegated, you have some problems to fix. Regardless of any situation and any players that Juventus had played in this match, they should have been able to win this match. Not only that they were about to lose the match. Rabiot saved them in the injury time. Otherwise, they were actually going to lose the match. That is something which is really unexpected from Juventus. They have to improve their performance otherwise they will have to face a lot of problems in the next season as well.

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May 13, 2024, 05:48:28 PM
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By the way there is an interesting match today between Lecce vs Udinese, we know Udinese is in 18th position or the relegation zone so Udinese will do whatever the next 3 matches include today and they only need 3 points or more to stay away from relegation. I think Udinese can win today moreover, their opponents Lecce did not have any targets I mean if they lose or win it doesn't have any impact.
This is a crucial match for Udinese, however they have to win. Because, if they lose this time, they could be overtaken by other clubs in the relegation zone whose points are not far off. What's interesting is that the number of points between several clubs in the relegation zone and above, up to 14th position, is still very close. So it is still not certain which clubs will actually enter the relegation zone at the end, except for Salernitana.

And currently, Udinese is leading Lecce 0 - 1 because of a goal from Lorenzo Lucca in the 36th minute. And indeed that was the only shot on target from both clubs. In fact, their performance wasn't that interesting, especially since they weren't that strong when they entered each opponent's defense. Lecce is currently dominating the game, much like Udinese. but still not able to get close and provide a strong attack against Udinese.
Will Lorenzo Lucca's goal be the only goal in the match?


Source: Lecce vs Udinese
It is still 0 - 1 in the minute of 60'.

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May 13, 2024, 05:49:45 PM
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Atalanta is freakin' on fire now. They have some great chances to still get into the Champions League and who would have thought that Juventus gets worse and worse this season...

One of the most interesting games coming up now is the Coppa Italia final where Atalanta can hurt Juventus for the first time, and the second time would be if they win their remaining Serie A games, which I think is very possible, and Juventus drops points one more time. That would be a disastrous end of the season for the club and I think that would entail a lot of consequences of all kinds. It is unbelievable that they could still lose it all. They tied their games against three teams where a draw is unacceptable.

Everyone talks about Vlahovic, but he sucks so hard. He is just not the striker that the club was hoping for.

If you check the Serie A standings you will see that Atalanta has already secured a ticket to the Champions League next season they got it because they managed to reach the final in the Europa League so for this season Serie A will get 5 tickets to the Champions League the same thing in the Bundesliga also gets 5 tickets. Yeah, on May 16 Atalanta will face Juventus in the final Coppa Italia  but I think this is an obstacle for them I mean they will play 2 final matches and that's not a normal situation.

Imagine if Atalanta pushed themselves too hard in these two important matches, it would actually have an impact on the stamina of their players there is even a risk of injury therefore I suspect Atalanta will prioritize matches in the Champions League meaning that in the Coppa match several players will be on the bench, even if it has to be played, of course in the second half.

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May 13, 2024, 05:53:37 PM
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Atalanta is freakin' on fire now. They have some great chances to still get into the Champions League and who would have thought that Juventus gets worse and worse this season...

One of the most interesting games coming up now is the Coppa Italia final where Atalanta can hurt Juventus for the first time, and the second time would be if they win their remaining Serie A games, which I think is very possible, and Juventus drops points one more time. That would be a disastrous end of the season for the club and I think that would entail a lot of consequences of all kinds. It is unbelievable that they could still lose it all. They tied their games against three teams where a draw is unacceptable.

Everyone talks about Vlahovic, but he sucks so hard. He is just not the striker that the club was hoping for.
Atalanta struggles this season deserve appreciation, where they managed to appear balanced in every competition, so they were able to reach the final of the Europa League and Coppa Italia. Apart from that, they also have the opportunity to finish in the top four if Juventus still has difficulty winning in the remaining matches ahead, but what is more important and interesting is the fight for the Coppa Italia trophy between Atalanta and Juventus.

With a number of draws obtained by Allegri fleet recently, it is clear that Atalanta has a big chance of making Juventus suffer, it will be a difficult match for Juventus. Atalanta will fight optimally and take advantage of opportunities well, and I think the strengths of the two teams are quite equal, but Atalanta has better self confidence.

Meanwhile, regarding Atalanta ambition to play in the Champions League, I think they will be able to make it happen, if not through the Europa League, Atalanta has a big chance of getting there by finishing in the top five of the standings Serie A. Overall, Atalanta performance has exceeded expectations, where I personally did not think they would be able to reach the point they are at now.

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I agree Juventus has not been playing well lately because they do not have much motivation and are focusing on another big game against Atalanta. They already know they will be playing in Champions League next season so they might be feeling bit too comfortable. This has made them play less intensely and with less energy. Coach has also change players around to prepare for other game which has affected how well team works together. This is clear from their close win against Salernitana team that will be relegated. This shows that Juventus is struggling right now.
Looking at Juventus' recent game which seems like Juventus is winning, it cannot be denied that Juventus' game has indeed declined. Seeing what happened to Juventus has made Allegri quite annoyed in several matches, indeed Juventus will be in the Copa Italia Final against Atalanta, if Juventus continues playing like this there is no chance for him to win the Copa Italia, how do we know Atalanta is currently playing very well, they are also in the European Finals.

With last night's incident Juventus were held to a draw by a team that has been confirmed to be relegated from Serie A, this proves that Juventus' quality has indeed declined, if you want to focus on the Copa Italia Final, this is nonsense, even Atalanta can get rid of fourth place Juventus, with this I think Allegri Juventus must make changes to be able to give their best in the Serie A league and Copa Italia later.
Juventus has not performed very well in this season in Serie A as this season Inter Milan has secured the title long ago and AC Milan is in second position but Juventus has not been able to finish in third position so far. Juventus are now fourth in the points table in Serie A although they still have 2 matches remaining. If Juventus can perform well in the remaining two matches, then Juventus's position at number three can be confirmed this season. To secure the third position in the points table, I think they must perform well in the last two matches and earn full points.

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May 13, 2024, 06:04:07 PM
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By the way, the loss for Roma in this match was pretty convincing. Because they were unable to create a lot of chances but on the other hand their opponents were creating chances out of nowhere. Great performance from Atalanta. And they definitely deserved to win this match.

I didn't watch it to full time, only 1st. 1st statistics, Atalanta excels from many sides. Total shoot 12, off target 5 and on target 4. AS Roma is only 2 total shoots, 1 off target and 0 on target. Ball control 57% and 43%.
That is displayed on the television screen. Not surprisingly when I said it was impossible for AS Roma to look so weak because only 20 minutes had conceded 2 goals.

For some reason, I am starting to think that the performance from Roma is going to be worse in the next season.

Not necessarily. Daniele de Rossi in my opinion successfully continued Mourinho's work. In half the season De Rossi can maintain the consistency of Rome, next season De Rossi if he is still given trust by the club, most likely he can give a glory to AS Roma such as Xabi Alonso in the Bundesliga.

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May 13, 2024, 07:01:31 PM
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In the Salernitana match, Juventus performed very badly, failing to win and almost losing to the lower team, Juventus played quite confidently with quite lot of attack attempts but all were in vain.
They only scored one goal and it happened in the second half when added time, I saw it didn't finish because in the middle of the second half Juventus game was boring.
I thought they were going to lose but it turned out there was goal and draw, even so, this was still not the optimal result because Juventus should have won easily.

Next season they will play matches in the important UCL competition, if their performance does not improve significantly then it is clear that they will be quicker to qualify.
I don't expect much from Juventus next season in the UCL competition.
Honestly they have been like this for at least 3 months now, take their average points per game on the last three months and you will realize that they would be at the very best a mid level team, not a high level team. They had an amazing start for the season and that allowed them to be good the way they are so far, without that great start they would have been terrible by now.

The fact that they are going to "probably" finish the season at top four, after having such a lousy three months, is the testament on how the great start happened, because it was seriously looking like they may have win the title over Inter at the start of the season, now it is a shock that they are still in the UCL stages of the league when you look at the results.

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Atalanta is freakin' on fire now. They have some great chances to still get into the Champions League and who would have thought that Juventus gets worse and worse this season...

One of the most interesting games coming up now is the Coppa Italia final where Atalanta can hurt Juventus for the first time, and the second time would be if they win their remaining Serie A games, which I think is very possible, and Juventus drops points one more time. That would be a disastrous end of the season for the club and I think that would entail a lot of consequences of all kinds. It is unbelievable that they could still lose it all. They tied their games against three teams where a draw is unacceptable.

Everyone talks about Vlahovic, but he sucks so hard. He is just not the striker that the club was hoping for.
While we expected Juventus to get better, they got worse. Atalanta, on the other hand, is the side that has looked better lately. They eliminated Milan in the Italian Cup, then Fiorentina in the semi-finals, and they came for Juventus in the final. Atalanta is successful as a team, and the final match will be played at a time when Juventus's schedule is bad.

Atalanta has the possibility of knocking out Juventus twice in the league and the cup. If they do, it will be very painful for Juventus. I don't know what to say about Vlahovic. He has 16 goals throughout the season, he could have scored more. This is not a very good statistic for a good striker.

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May 13, 2024, 07:28:10 PM
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Juventus has not performed very well in this season in Serie A as this season Inter Milan has secured the title long ago and AC Milan is in second position but Juventus has not been able to finish in third position so far. Juventus are now fourth in the points table in Serie A although they still have 2 matches remaining. If Juventus can perform well in the remaining two matches, then Juventus's position at number three can be confirmed this season. To secure the third position in the points table, I think they must perform well in the last two matches and earn full points.
Juventus' performance this season could be said to be very bad, even though this season they are not playing in European competition, they should be better in Serie A. but in fact their performance has not improved, in fact it has gotten worse from first place at the start of the season, then second place, then third place, and now fourth place. It's really embarrassing that the Juventus team was only able to achieve a draw with a team that was relegated, even though the other team made the Salernitana team their goal target to get three points.

However, fortunately this season, Serie A has five slots for the UCL league, so even though Juventus did not get points in their last two matches, they will still enter the UCL league next season because As Roma are unable to catch points with the remaining two matches. Juventus is having a bad season this season, Juventus is having problems with its coach. I think Allegri should resign if Juventus wants to become a strong team again next season.

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May 13, 2024, 10:50:55 PM
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Not necessarily. Daniele de Rossi in my opinion successfully continued Mourinho's work. In half the season De Rossi can maintain the consistency of Rome, next season De Rossi if he is still given trust by the club, most likely he can give a glory to AS Roma such as Xabi Alonso in the Bundesliga.

Joining a team late in the season is for sure not an easy task to perform, especially if the scores were disastrous before. Making victories while playing with players already picked by someone else is an achievement itself. De Rossi needs to train Roma the next season and to select the players he wants before judging about his qualities.
Meanwhile, Juventus are doing horrible things for Italian football and for the jersey they are wearing. They are humiliating the club right now with many disappointing results and soon they will be kicked from the fourth spot by Atalanta..

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May 13, 2024, 10:54:02 PM
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Juventus' performance this season could be said to be very bad, even though this season they are not playing in European competition, they should be better in Serie A. but in fact their performance has not improved, in fact it has gotten worse from first place at the start of the season, then second place, then third place, and now fourth place. It's really embarrassing that the Juventus team was only able to achieve a draw with a team that was relegated, even though the other team made the Salernitana team their goal target to get three points.

However, fortunately this season, Serie A has five slots for the UCL league, so even though Juventus did not get points in their last two matches, they will still enter the UCL league next season because As Roma are unable to catch points with the remaining two matches. Juventus is having a bad season this season, Juventus is having problems with its coach. I think Allegri should resign if Juventus wants to become a strong team again next season.
Surely everyone says the same thing because Juventus performance only competes in Serie A without a busy schedule, but what we are seeing is that Juventus are not able to complete their task well this season. Juventus does not have a goal machine which makes it difficult for them to win when facing other teams. Even when they faced the weakest team this season, Juventus failed to win, because when they faced Salernitana, Juventus only played a draw.

Of course, big changes have occurred in Serie A because other teams are stronger when compared to Juventus. I think if there are no major changes in the transfer market, of course Juventus will find it quite difficult to win the Scudetto again. Currently, of course, Inter Milan is quite strong, they have a great coach and also have attackers who are quite productive in scoring goals.

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May 13, 2024, 11:28:51 PM
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Surely everyone says the same thing because Juventus performance only competes in Serie A without a busy schedule, but what we are seeing is that Juventus are not able to complete their task well this season. Juventus does not have a goal machine which makes it difficult for them to win when facing other teams. Even when they faced the weakest team this season, Juventus failed to win, because when they faced Salernitana, Juventus only played a draw.

Of course, big changes have occurred in Serie A because other teams are stronger when compared to Juventus. I think if there are no major changes in the transfer market, of course Juventus will find it quite difficult to win the Scudetto again. Currently, of course, Inter Milan is quite strong, they have a great coach and also have attackers who are quite productive in scoring goals.
Juventus already has three attacking players who in my opinion are still very good and capable of scoring goals, it's just their opportunity to do that. What needs to be paid attention to or evaluated is the strategy used by Juventus. They have to practice a lot more and have to try to use various strategies to find a suitable strategy that can allow their attacking players to penetrate the opponent's defense and score goals.

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May 13, 2024, 11:33:46 PM
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Juventus already has three attacking players who in my opinion are still very good and capable of scoring goals, it's just their opportunity to do that. What needs to be paid attention to or evaluated is the strategy used by Juventus. They have to practice a lot more and have to try to use various strategies to find a suitable strategy that can allow their attacking players to penetrate the opponent's defense and score goals.
Juventus falled from the very top and now watching them struggling against average clubs to grab their winning points. This is a little bit huge blow on the reputation and standards of the club, climbing from such heighten levels and going for low is outrageous. However Massimiliano Allegri is still competent for the job and will do everything to puts things straight and up for the club, Juventus will definitely add new faces to the squad, atleast it will strengthen their performance and stats improvement for next season which will be a tough competition on their ends.

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