Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A)

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Did anyone realize that the competition in Serie A has not been up to the mark?

By that, I mean almost all of the teams in this league have just not been good enough in the Champions League competition. The last time any Italian team was able to win the Champions League competition was back in the 2009-10 season if I recall correctly. And it was Inter who won the Champions League.

After that, I do not remember any team from the Italian league actually winning the Champions League title. Are the teams in the Serie A has just become that bad? I know recently a lot of Italian teams have been facing some legal problems with their players, their coaches, and even their owners. Are these the reasons why they have not been able to do well in the Champions League competition? That is definitely a factor if you ask me. It also does not seem like any team from the Italian league will probably win the Champions League competition anytime soon.

Source: Olympics

Last season Inter Milan almost succeeded in the Champions League. And the Italian teams even managed to dominate as the clubs that made the most of the quarter-finals and semi-finals in the previous season in the UCL. but unfortunately that doesn't happen this season. Even teams from Italy also had to fall early. So there has indeed been a clear setback this season. and in the last few seasons. But this problem is actually also reflected in the finances of the Italian clubs themselves. Maybe it's rarely reported, but in fact many Italian clubs have been facing financial problems for a long time. So this can also be seen in the player transfer market where Italian clubs are no longer the clubs that are the bravest in making high offers. High offers always come from clubs from other leagues. So in my opinion the problem is financial itself. That's one of them and maybe there are other problems too, like there are a lot of sanctions or something like that there.

Inter Milan performance in Champion League on season 2023 is very impressive because they can surprising many people by advances to the final match but unfortunately at that time Inter Milan have to lost from Manchester City and failed to gets the trophy and this season Inter Milan performance in this competition is not quite good because they only able to reach to round of 16 and dramatically lost from Atletico Madrid and this result is a major concern for Inzaghi because next season he want Inter Milan can performing better and reach at least the quarterfinals so that's why Inzaghi will attempts to do his best to achieve that target

On the other hand if we talking about the financial crisis in Serie A we all know since several years ago the financial conditions of Serie A clubs is not really good even most of big clubs in this competition such as Juventus, Inter Milan and AS Roma has been admitting that they currently have a problem to buy the players with expensive price because they have limited budget for every season so this also caused why there was no more saga transfer from Serie A clubs because almost all of the clubs from this competitions has financial crisis and this also makes the popularity of Serie A decreased and below to Premier League or Laliga

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The last time italian club won UCL was more than a decade ago.

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La Liga owns the majority of the UCL trophy because Real Madrid has consistently won it. Real madrid is owning 15 tropohies alone combined with barcelona. It would be different if Madrid were not in La Liga. Madrid has carried la liga to win so many UCL titles. Serie A was not a horrible team, especially since they may still advance to the UCL final. The only main problem if any serie a clubs were qualifying to the final was not able making a proper finishing. It has made club bottled the trophy

The main problem is that they lack a winning mentality. You can see from how intermilan has bottled it last seasons. It can be seen from how Intermilan failed in the 2022/2023 final versus Manchester City. They presently hold 5 UCL places now. It enhances the likelihood that Italian teams will remain in the UCL for an extended period but it must be noted that if it doesn't guarantee italian club to have greater chance in winning UCL.  King is back now. Real madrid is ready to break its 3 times UCL winners in a row.  

One team from another league winning the Champions League title a lot of times, or even both Real Madrid and Barcelona winning the Champions League title a lot of times does not make my argument weak that the performance from the teams of the Italian league has really not been great in the champions league. Sure they have been in the finals but they were not able to win it though. Being second is just not enough.

Let's always remember that Italy has always been well present in the Champions League, now we have the overwhelming power of the Spanish in recent years, but let's also remember that when Real Madrid were Galacticos there were teams like Milan, Juve and Inter who have always been imposed on these great teams and they have sometimes achieved great results, so we can expect anything and the great teams do not always manage to win what they set their minds to winning, football is beautiful for this reason

I don’t understand why this is so hard to grasp. Being present in a competition does not mean that you are doing great in that competition. A lot of countries play in the World Cup. That does not mean that they all have done well in the World Cup. In the end there is one winner who is able to win the trophy. And that is the ultimate glory. I am not saying that the teams from the Italian league will not be able to win the Champions League anytime soon. all I am saying is that they have not been able to do it for quite some time now.  The possibility of that happening in recent future is also pretty questionable.

[Leviathan.007]

Did anyone realize that the competition in Serie A has not been up to the mark?

By that, I mean almost all of the teams in this league have just not been good enough in the Champions League competition. The last time any Italian team was able to win the Champions League competition was back in the 2009-10 season if I recall correctly. And it was Inter who won the Champions League.

After that, I do not remember any team from the Italian league actually winning the Champions League title. Are the teams in the Serie A has just become that bad? I know recently a lot of Italian teams have been facing some legal problems with their players, their coaches, and even their owners. Are these the reasons why they have not been able to do well in the Champions League competition? That is definitely a factor if you ask me. It also does not seem like any team from the Italian league will probably win the Champions League competition anytime soon.

Source: Olympics

Last season Inter Milan almost succeeded in the Champions League. And the Italian teams even managed to dominate as the clubs that made the most of the quarter-finals and semi-finals in the previous season in the UCL. but unfortunately that doesn't happen this season. Even teams from Italy also had to fall early. So there has indeed been a clear setback this season. and in the last few seasons. But this problem is actually also reflected in the finances of the Italian clubs themselves. Maybe it's rarely reported, but in fact many Italian clubs have been facing financial problems for a long time. So this can also be seen in the player transfer market where Italian clubs are no longer the clubs that are the bravest in making high offers. High offers always come from clubs from other leagues. So in my opinion the problem is financial itself. That's one of them and maybe there are other problems too, like there are a lot of sanctions or something like that there.

The good thing about Inter Milan is they will always try to do their best to have better performance in the Serie A because of having a more stable team. In fact, Inter Milan can have more chance in the next season by doing this.
Recently they extended the contract of their player, Nicolò Barella until 2029 since he had a good player they decided to keep him for a long time and now Nicolò Barella gets a salary more than any player in Serie A.
 

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'Made us grow' - Leandro Paredes aims subtle dig at Jose Mourinho as Roma midfielder claims Daniele De Rossi's style 'suits the team better' ahead of Europa League semi-final clash with Bayer Leverkusen
Leandro Paredes says Daniele De Rossi has made Roma "grow" as his "style suits the team better", in a subtle dig at Jose Mourinho.

Source: https://www.goal.com/en-in/lists/leandro-paredes-dig-jose-mourinho-roma-daniele-de-rossi-style-europa-league-semi-final-bayer-leverkusen/blt1fb90cfc1f4b546d

Guys, any opinion about the performance of Roma?

I clearly do not see any improvement in their performance. but maybe I am just speaking a little too early. Maybe there is a chance that they will be able to bring in better results in the next season. it has not been even a whole season that they have brought in Daniele De Rossi. maybe with time, De Rossi will be able to improve the results. But at this moment I highly doubt that. 

You know, De Rossi is going to need a lot of money to actually bring in good results and compete for the title. at this moment I do not see a huge stream of money coming into the Roma club. do I think that it was a very big mistake that they have actually fired Jose Mourinho? probably not a very big mistake.  but at the same time do I think that they should have gotten a better coach? yes absolutely.  unless they actually finish in the top four positions in the next season I am not going to call another European League position finish "an improvement".

Maybe Roma management thinks that the club don't have a problem but thinks Mourinho was a problematic coach, but right now we have seen that Mourinho was not the problem but the club, because the don't want to spend money in order to put the club in the standard that they want. This was why they decided to fire Mourinho thinking that without quality players and coach, the club will be able to achieve a good result and qualify to UCL next season. It turned out the De Rossi was able to win some matches when he started but towards the ending when the competitions got fierce, De Rossi was unable to overcime the pressures and couldn't win important matches. I hope next season will speak well for De Rossi that he is a good replacement to Mourinho.

Mourinho was perplexing when he was at Roma because mou's request never be fulfilled by the management. This resulted from management's failure to satisfy his request. Roma is too stingy to invest money on new players. This is why Roma sacked Mourinho. He was grumbling about how the club did not offer him transfer allowances to choose which player he would recruit.
I regarded it as Mourinho's biggest problem. That is why Mou has been replaced by a guy who can be dictated to, such as Rossi now. It's extremely rare to uncover news about Roma attempting to buy a player. This means that Roma may not invest during the summer transfer season. No doubt that this club was always a mediocre club.
If Rossi does not progress to strengthening roma's squad this time, they will have a difficult time competing in numerous contests. Roma has poor defense and midfielders. Roma appears unlikely to win the Europa League title next season.

[TelolettOm]

As a former player who was appointed as a coach, I think Daniele De Rossi can be considered successful in his first season at Roma. Daniele De Rossi managed to record 6 losses and 6 draws and 14 wins in 26 matches at Roma in his first season. These statistics are good for a manager and this success is marked by Roma qualifying for the Europa League next season.

I agree with you. Daniele De Rossi is quite successful although Roma position in Serie A standings was still in 6th place. De Rossi could improve the position of AS Roma to 6th place at least. Before he managed Roma, AS Roma wasn't in 6th place. As far as I know, AS Roma was struggling to stay in the top 8 before De Rossi became the coach. AS Roma was lucky that De Rossi could improve the performance of AS Roma quite fast. With the lack of experience as a coach, his achievement with AS Roma in this season is quite satisfyingly. I still remember many people underestimated him when he was selected to be the replacement of Mourinho.

Yes, the stats looks good. He could win 14 matches in 26 matches. He actually can make better stats, if AS Roma didn't lose focus in the final 5 matches of this season. However, it is not too bad because AS Roma still can finish in Europa league zone at least. De Rossi can have another chance to finish the season in a better position in the next season. I really expect AS Roma to return into the top 5.

If Rossi does not progress to strengthening roma's squad this time, they will have a difficult time competing in numerous contests. Roma has poor defense and midfielders.

Of course, De Rossi must improve the quality of AS Roma squad. Midfield line is the worse line of AS Roma, there should be some new players in this line. AS Roma midfielders are lack of creativity, they also are less unified both in defense and attack. Even if AS Roma has good attackers, they can't play optimally if they aren't supported by good midfielders.



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[klidex]

Only a few clubs in Serie A have received attention from the big media because the focus of the big media's attention so far has only been on the English League and Spanish League teams. Strong teams in the Italian league often have real problems, be it financial problems or player transfer problems, even the worst a few years ago was the problem of match fixing, often teams from the Italian league are called dark horses because they always win unexpectedly in international leagues such as Atalanta, for example, they succeeded in becoming UEL champions, beating Leverkusen.

Yes even though Serie A clubs are no less competitive than the English League and Spanish League, even Serie A clubs cannot be underestimated in international tournaments. In fact, in the last 2 seasons, Serie A clubs have played well in international tournaments, even though some of them have not succeeded in bringing home the title. as prestigious as when Inter Milan won second place in the Champions League in the previous season and Roma also won second place in the Europa League, and even this season Atalanta won the Europa League title, which means Serie A clubs are quite competitive but rarely anyone favors Serie A clubs and the media also rarely covers news about Serie A clubs.

In fact, if the media also covered news about Serie A club news, it would also be more interesting because Serie A is also a competitive club and is no less than the English League and Spanish League. Perhaps their financial system is not as much as the English League or Spanish League so the media feels less interested, but even so I am still interested in Serie A clubs. This league has adequate performance. Even though they are quite behind in popularity from the English League and Spanish League, it cannot be denied that their performance is almost equal.

[Minor Miner]

'Made us grow' - Leandro Paredes aims subtle dig at Jose Mourinho as Roma midfielder claims Daniele De Rossi's style 'suits the team better' ahead of Europa League semi-final clash with Bayer Leverkusen
Leandro Paredes says Daniele De Rossi has made Roma "grow" as his "style suits the team better", in a subtle dig at Jose Mourinho.

Source: https://www.goal.com/en-in/lists/leandro-paredes-dig-jose-mourinho-roma-daniele-de-rossi-style-europa-league-semi-final-bayer-leverkusen/blt1fb90cfc1f4b546d

Guys, any opinion about the performance of Roma?

I clearly do not see any improvement in their performance. but maybe I am just speaking a little too early. Maybe there is a chance that they will be able to bring in better results in the next season. it has not been even a whole season that they have brought in Daniele De Rossi. maybe with time, De Rossi will be able to improve the results. But at this moment I highly doubt that. 

You know, De Rossi is going to need a lot of money to actually bring in good results and compete for the title. at this moment I do not see a huge stream of money coming into the Roma club. do I think that it was a very big mistake that they have actually fired Jose Mourinho? probably not a very big mistake.  but at the same time do I think that they should have gotten a better coach? yes absolutely.  unless they actually finish in the top four positions in the next season I am not going to call another European League position finish "an improvement".

Maybe Roma management thinks that the club don't have a problem but thinks Mourinho was a problematic coach, but right now we have seen that Mourinho was not the problem but the club, because the don't want to spend money in order to put the club in the standard that they want. This was why they decided to fire Mourinho thinking that without quality players and coach, the club will be able to achieve a good result and qualify to UCL next season. It turned out the De Rossi was able to win some matches when he started but towards the ending when the competitions got fierce, De Rossi was unable to overcime the pressures and couldn't win important matches. I hope next season will speak well for De Rossi that he is a good replacement to Mourinho.

Mourinho was perplexing when he was at Roma because mou's request never be fulfilled by the management. This resulted from management's failure to satisfy his request. Roma is too stingy to invest money on new players. This is why Roma sacked Mourinho. He was grumbling about how the club did not offer him transfer allowances to choose which player he would recruit.
I regarded it as Mourinho's biggest problem. That is why Mou has been replaced by a guy who can be dictated to, such as Rossi now. It's extremely rare to uncover news about Roma attempting to buy a player. This means that Roma may not invest during the summer transfer season. No doubt that this club was always a mediocre club.
If Rossi does not progress to strengthening roma's squad this time, they will have a difficult time competing in numerous contests. Roma has poor defense and midfielders. Roma appears unlikely to win the Europa League title next season.

I agree with you. The main reason for Roma management's conflict with Mourinho was Roma management's non-funding of player purchases. I have never seen Roma management buy players at the will of the coach or give the coach a large fund to buy players. Roma management has always bought players of their choice. The Roma management did not give Mourinho full freedom.

After sacking Mourinho, Roma management put De Rossi in charge. De Rossi is not an experienced coach. Whether he can do well with Roma next season remains to be seen. But if the Roma management is unable to strengthen the squad, it will be very difficult for De Rossi to strengthen the Roma team and stay in the top four of the table. I think De Rossi's chances of success are very low. In the next season, we will probably see irregular performance of Roma team.

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The financial problems of clubs in Serie A rarely receive coverage in the sports news media. Even though there are several clubs that have even been on the verge of bankruptcy several times, fortunately these clubs always managed to improve their situation and did not go bankrupt. even though their financial problems are still not resolved. But still I might appreciate every club in Serie A. Because even though the clubs in Serie A don't spend as much as other clubs in other leagues. But in Serie A clubs I see that these clubs can bring out the maximum potential of a player they bring in. So many players come to Serie A as ordinary players. But after several seasons playing in Serie A he turned into a player who was in great demand by other clubs from other leagues. And maybe in the next few seasons we will be able to see Serie A clubs starting to dominate more in the UCL.

Only a few clubs in Serie A have received attention from the big media because the focus of the big media's attention so far has only been on the English League and Spanish League teams. Strong teams in the Italian league often have real problems, be it financial problems or player transfer problems, even the worst a few years ago was the problem of match fixing, often teams from the Italian league are called dark horses because they always win unexpectedly in international leagues such as Atalanta, for example, they succeeded in becoming UEL champions, beating Leverkusen.

Yes that's right. The problems in Serie A are very complete, starting from several clubs having problems with score fixing, club finances and player transfer problems, even a few years ago great players were not interested in playing in Serie A. So in my opinion everything has its time, Serie A used to be the most competitive and most popular league compared to other leagues, so there are lots of great players who want to play in Serie A, but now Serie A seems to be starting to rise towards its glory days.

Just look at the current Italian clubs, even though the league is still considered not as attractive as before, they can talk a lot in Europe with AS Roma who were able to achieve one win last season and this season there is Atalanta who have just won the European competition. don't forget that Fiorentina returned to the final of the European conference league, and now Serie A has five teams to compete in the UCL league next season. So in my opinion, Serie A is on the rise, maybe in the next few years Serie A will again become the center of attention for football fans.

[makishart]

There have been a lot of news from Italian clubs.

I have some news from old lady and Roma for you guys.

1. Juventus is getting even closer to signing Greenwood from Manchester United. Greedwood gave a positive signal to join Juventus. It hasn't stopped yet, as the old lady is now approaching Douglas Luiz from villa. We can imagine how strong Juventus will be in the following season.
Motta appears to be sincerely attempting to rebuild team. Juventus is already getting rid of some players who have made no contributions to the team. Motta's plan is quite positive. In comparison to the previous season, Old Lady will be quite competitive.

2. Roma is getting closer to signing Chiesa from Juventus. Talks are currently under progress. Roma's directors meet with Chiesa's agent to discuss the potential of recruiting him. It has been speculated that Napoli is also interested in signing Chiesa from Juventus but no progress from napoli so far.
The awful problem is that Roma isn't even prioritizing strikers. Lukaku has returned to Chelsea, leaving an open striker position available for roma.

I expect Juventus and Roma to sign new players soon. The Serie A will become even more competitive next season. I rarely heard transfer news from Intermilan. Nerazzurri appears quiet at the moment. Simeone Inzaghi may be preparing something fresh.

[MarjorieZimmermanGinger]

Only a few clubs in Serie A have received attention from the big media because the focus of the big media's attention so far has only been on the English League and Spanish League teams. Strong teams in the Italian league often have real problems, be it financial problems or player transfer problems, even the worst a few years ago was the problem of match fixing, often teams from the Italian league are called dark horses because they always win unexpectedly in international leagues such as Atalanta, for example, they succeeded in becoming UEL champions, beating Leverkusen.

Big media also cover matches in Serie A, the only difference is that there are many star players in the English League and in the Spanish league. If you look at the past, Serie A is the busiest in my country compared to the English and Spanish leagues and we even watch this league more often. Teams in Serie A were also successful in their time and they were even as well known at that time as AC Milan and others. In the modern era of football, the media has a role in making certain leagues become better known, such as what we now know as the English and Spanish Leagues.

Even though many people consider the teams in Serie A to be dark horses, they also have good capacity. Unexpected things actually happened, such as Atalanta managing to beat Leverkusen, which incidentally was stronger and had a much greater chance of emerging as champions.

[Sebas.tian]

2. Roma is getting closer to signing Chiesa from Juventus. Talks are currently under progress. Roma's directors meet with Chiesa's agent to discuss the potential of recruiting him. It has been speculated that Napoli is also interested in signing Chiesa from Juventus but no progress from napoli so far.
The awful problem is that Roma isn't even prioritizing strikers. Lukaku has returned to Chelsea, leaving an open striker position available for roma.

I expect Juventus and Roma to sign new players soon. The Serie A will become even more competitive next season. I rarely heard transfer news from Intermilan. Nerazzurri appears quiet at the moment. Simeone Inzaghi may be preparing something fresh.

I know that Roma will do everything possible in this summer season to sign in new potential players, because their performance in this season was not encouraging and it made Inter to have massive opportunity to top the Italian league table through out which it will not going to happen  next season, because all those players Roma is trying to sign in will make some good contributions that will make them end up in second position. Chiesa is a good player every team wish to have in their teams, because he made some positive changes in Juventus that made them to come close to the position they ended up in the Italian league competition table. I think, Juventus and Roma will definitely going to sign in new players in this summer season, because their managements are still working to make sure they have enough funds to finance the budget that will make them to have good players next season.

[barisbilgili]

I know that Roma will do everything possible in this summer season to sign in new potential players, because their performance in this season was not encouraging and it made Inter to have massive opportunity to top the Italian league table through out which it will not going to happen  next season, because all those players Roma is trying to sign in will make some good contributions that will make them end up in second position. Chiesa is a good player every team wish to have in their teams, because he made some positive changes in Juventus that made them to come close to the position they ended up in the Italian league competition table. I think, Juventus and Roma will definitely going to sign in new players in this summer season, because their managements are still working to make sure they have enough funds to finance the budget that will make them to have good players next season.

I think Roma is not a team that has a lot of money to make a big overhaul of the team and recruit a lot of quality players at a high price.
To improve, of course, all teams will improve much better, especially as coach Roma De Rossi will try to bring in several players who have characteristics that suit his coaching style. It cannot be denied that all coaches want players who suit him to improve the team's performance, as well Roma next season.

[Gallar]

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Guys, any opinion about the performance of Roma?

I clearly do not see any improvement in their performance. but maybe I am just speaking a little too early. Maybe there is a chance that they will be able to bring in better results in the next season. it has not been even a whole season that they have brought in Daniele De Rossi. maybe with time, De Rossi will be able to improve the results. But at this moment I highly doubt that. 

You know, De Rossi is going to need a lot of money to actually bring in good results and compete for the title. at this moment I do not see a huge stream of money coming into the Roma club. do I think that it was a very big mistake that they have actually fired Jose Mourinho? probably not a very big mistake.  but at the same time do I think that they should have gotten a better coach? yes absolutely.  unless they actually finish in the top four positions in the next season I am not going to call another European League position finish "an improvement".

De Rossi was appointed as Roma coach in the middle of this season. Since then, Roma has developed much better than when Mourinho was still coaching. So with this quite good development, there is no need to doubt De Rossi. The reason is that even though he has only trained Roma for a short time, the results Roma has obtained can be said to have exceeded expectations. So for next season I am sure De Rossi will definitely make Roma an even better team. Because of course next season De Rossi will really be total in developing his strategy and also his players. Maybe in this season's transfer market De Rossi will bring in several players to make Roma a team that is strong in defense and also sharp in attack. Because the players that Roma currently has are definitely the players chosen by Mourinho, so it is certain that De Rossi will have a little difficulty in creating a strategy that suits his own style.

Although it is true that currently Roma does not have large enough finances to be able to bring in players who really have big names. But this is not an obstacle, because De Rossi can bring in young players to be the solution. Because I believe De Rossi is a typical coach who can make the team develop in various ways. So basically there is no need to doubt De Rossi, because if for example Roma forces Mourinho to remain in the coaching chair, I am sure Roma will not get results as good as they are now. Being able to finish in 5th place in Serie A, which was previously in the middle of the standings, could be said to be quite a good and significant development. So if you look at these developments, I am sure that next season Roma will definitely be a very prominent Serie A title challenger.

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The last time italian club won UCL was more than a decade ago.

Wiki

La Liga owns the majority of the UCL trophy because Real Madrid has consistently won it. Real madrid is owning 15 tropohies alone combined with barcelona. It would be different if Madrid were not in La Liga. Madrid has carried la liga to win so many UCL titles. Serie A was not a horrible team, especially since they may still advance to the UCL final. The only main problem if any serie a clubs were qualifying to the final was not able making a proper finishing. It has made club bottled the trophy

The main problem is that they lack a winning mentality. You can see from how intermilan has bottled it last seasons. It can be seen from how Intermilan failed in the 2022/2023 final versus Manchester City. They presently hold 5 UCL places now. It enhances the likelihood that Italian teams will remain in the UCL for an extended period but it must be noted that if it doesn't guarantee italian club to have greater chance in winning UCL.  King is back now. Real madrid is ready to break its 3 times UCL winners in a row.  

One team from another league winning the Champions League title a lot of times, or even both Real Madrid and Barcelona winning the Champions League title a lot of times does not make my argument weak that the performance from the teams of the Italian league has really not been great in the champions league. Sure they have been in the finals but they were not able to win it though. Being second is just not enough.

Let's always remember that Italy has always been well present in the Champions League, now we have the overwhelming power of the Spanish in recent years, but let's also remember that when Real Madrid were Galacticos there were teams like Milan, Juve and Inter who have always been imposed on these great teams and they have sometimes achieved great results, so we can expect anything and the great teams do not always manage to win what they set their minds to winning, football is beautiful for this reason

I don’t understand why this is so hard to grasp. Being present in a competition does not mean that you are doing great in that competition. A lot of countries play in the World Cup. That does not mean that they all have done well in the World Cup. In the end there is one winner who is able to win the trophy. And that is the ultimate glory. I am not saying that the teams from the Italian league will not be able to win the Champions League anytime soon. all I am saying is that they have not been able to do it for quite some time now.  The possibility of that happening in recent future is also pretty questionable.

Well, we all know that they were great teams but let's say that last year Inter went to the final to compete and the result wasn't that bad. Comparing the two teams, City is an alien and Inter is an ant and yet they didn't have an easy life, they only won with a goal which in my opinion also came with a bit of luck, so if we want to be honest it doesn't mean that there won't be an Italian who will lift the champions, pay attention to Juventus

[Lillominato89]

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The last time italian club won UCL was more than a decade ago.

Wiki

La Liga owns the majority of the UCL trophy because Real Madrid has consistently won it. Real madrid is owning 15 tropohies alone combined with barcelona. It would be different if Madrid were not in La Liga. Madrid has carried la liga to win so many UCL titles. Serie A was not a horrible team, especially since they may still advance to the UCL final. The only main problem if any serie a clubs were qualifying to the final was not able making a proper finishing. It has made club bottled the trophy

The main problem is that they lack a winning mentality. You can see from how intermilan has bottled it last seasons. It can be seen from how Intermilan failed in the 2022/2023 final versus Manchester City. They presently hold 5 UCL places now. It enhances the likelihood that Italian teams will remain in the UCL for an extended period but it must be noted that if it doesn't guarantee italian club to have greater chance in winning UCL.  King is back now. Real madrid is ready to break its 3 times UCL winners in a row.  

One team from another league winning the Champions League title a lot of times, or even both Real Madrid and Barcelona winning the Champions League title a lot of times does not make my argument weak that the performance from the teams of the Italian league has really not been great in the champions league. Sure they have been in the finals but they were not able to win it though. Being second is just not enough.

Let's always remember that Italy has always been well present in the Champions League, now we have the overwhelming power of the Spanish in recent years, but let's also remember that when Real Madrid were Galacticos there were teams like Milan, Juve and Inter who have always been imposed on these great teams and they have sometimes achieved great results, so we can expect anything and the great teams do not always manage to win what they set their minds to winning, football is beautiful for this reason

I don’t understand why this is so hard to grasp. Being present in a competition does not mean that you are doing great in that competition. A lot of countries play in the World Cup. That does not mean that they all have done well in the World Cup. In the end there is one winner who is able to win the trophy. And that is the ultimate glory. I am not saying that the teams from the Italian league will not be able to win the Champions League anytime soon. all I am saying is that they have not been able to do it for quite some time now.  The possibility of that happening in recent future is also pretty questionable.

Well, we all know that they were great teams but let's say that last year Inter went to the final to compete and the result wasn't that bad. Comparing the two teams, City is an alien and Inter is an ant and yet they didn't have an easy life, they only won with a goal which in my opinion also came with a bit of luck, so if we want to be honest it doesn't mean that there won't be an Italian who will lift the champions, pay attention to Juventus

Unfortunately, Italian teams have not raised the Champions League since 2010, but it must also be said that in the following years there was a chance to win several times with Juventus and Inter last year. Unfortunately they didn't manage to raise it, but I believe that in the years to come and with all these new owners of the top Italian clubs, Inter Juventus and Milan will have further chances to win the Champions League. At least I hope so

[bering]

There have been a lot of news from Italian clubs.

I have some news from old lady and Roma for you guys.

1. Juventus is getting even closer to signing Greenwood from Manchester United. Greedwood gave a positive signal to join Juventus. It hasn't stopped yet, as the old lady is now approaching Douglas Luiz from villa. We can imagine how strong Juventus will be in the following season.
Motta appears to be sincerely attempting to rebuild team. Juventus is already getting rid of some players who have made no contributions to the team. Motta's plan is quite positive. In comparison to the previous season, Old Lady will be quite competitive.

2. Roma is getting closer to signing Chiesa from Juventus. Talks are currently under progress. Roma's directors meet with Chiesa's agent to discuss the potential of recruiting him. It has been speculated that Napoli is also interested in signing Chiesa from Juventus but no progress from napoli so far.
The awful problem is that Roma isn't even prioritizing strikers. Lukaku has returned to Chelsea, leaving an open striker position available for roma.

I expect Juventus and Roma to sign new players soon. The Serie A will become even more competitive next season. I rarely heard transfer news from Intermilan. Nerazzurri appears quiet at the moment. Simeone Inzaghi may be preparing something fresh.

If Juventus want to bought Douglas Luiz then Aston Villa was asking two players from Juventus Weston McKennie and Samuel Iling-Junior plus 20 million and it says Juventus has been agree with this method so in the near future this transfer will be published especially Douglas Luiz personally is willing to moved to Juventus and for Greenwood actually Juventus want to do the same thing just like Douglas Luiz transfer that Juventus want to exchange some players to Manchester United but apparently Manchester United has been refuse this offers because they only want money and Greenwood price tag is 50 million but so far Juventus only bid 30 million but apparently Juventus hasn't give up yet and they want to make second bid for Greenwood

For Roma after they decide will not permanent Lukaku status then Roma will look for new striker this summer and actually they have been linked to several names but indeed Federico Chiesa name was appears recently because De Rossi is impress to see his performance while defend Juventus besides that Federico Chiesa also has decide to leave Juventus after the negotiations for a new contract reached a deadlock besides that just like i said above Juventus will gets Greenwood from Juventus so Federico Chiesa feel he has no place again in Juventus so that's why he personally asking to his agent to look for new club and maybe he will move to Roma

[Uruhara]

Well, we all know that they were great teams but let's say that last year Inter went to the final to compete and the result wasn't that bad. Comparing the two teams, City is an alien and Inter is an ant and yet they didn't have an easy life, they only won with a goal which in my opinion also came with a bit of luck, so if we want to be honest it doesn't mean that there won't be an Italian who will lift the champions, pay attention to Juventus

Serie A clubs are actually clubs that are always able to utilize players who are considered ordinary at first to become extraordinary in the end. So in fact, when Inter Milan last season made it to the UCL final, we all knew that at that time the squad depth of the two teams was very different in terms of quality. but what happened was that Inter Milan could indeed match Man City very well. And yes, the 1 goal scored in the final match is also proof that Man City also couldn't do much against Inter Milan, who at that time still relied on Onana. Onana was a great goalkeeper at Inter Milan. but when Onana went to Man United we saw that Onana was a goalkeeper who was not that good. Well, this is what I mean, the Inter Milan teams always succeed in utilizing their players to their maximum limits. And I am also quite sure that despite all their limitations, the Italian teams will one day succeed in lifting the UCL trophy again.

[len01]

Serie A clubs are actually clubs that are always able to utilize players who are considered ordinary at first to become extraordinary in the end. So in fact, when Inter Milan last season made it to the UCL final, we all knew that at that time the squad depth of the two teams was very different in terms of quality. but what happened was that Inter Milan could indeed match Man City very well. And yes, the 1 goal scored in the final match is also proof that Man City also couldn't do much against Inter Milan, who at that time still relied on Onana. Onana was a great goalkeeper at Inter Milan. but when Onana went to Man United we saw that Onana was a goalkeeper who was not that good. Well, this is what I mean, the Inter Milan teams always succeed in utilizing their players to their maximum limits. And I am also quite sure that despite all their limitations, the Italian teams will one day succeed in lifting the UCL trophy again.

It has been a long time ago if the series A is famous for a big league that can always create new talents with extraordinary talent and if we remember again there are so many legendary players who used to have very high quality talent so it is no wonder that the team from series A is always successful or almost almost won the title in a prestigious competition like Inter Milan that you said and on the one hand there is also a representative of the A series (Atalanta) who successfully defeated Leverkusen who is famous for the performance is very consistent without defeating but the fact is Atalanta with an appearance that is not so good but can get rid of Leverkusen.
Inter Milan at that time could almost get an UCL title if he could hold the match draw and ended with the penalty of Inter opportunities to be bigger but even though it failed was one of the proofs that Inter was actually one of the strongest teams at UCL after Man City.

but related to the onana that you say when with Inter looks very strong but when in Man United his appearance looks bad and that's actually if you explore what is happening with Onana at this time is not his mistake but a different defense has Inter and Man United.
without I have to explain again you might be able to see how Man United defense with Inter is far different and goalkeepers like Onana when with Inter have great support from Inter defense that always helps secure the goal but when you are in Man United, are you seeing you great support from Man United defense?
one evidence if Onana is still a good goalkeeper when he was at UCL and at that time Onana managed to secure his goal from a penalty kick.

[Tony116]

Unfortunately, Italian teams have not raised the Champions League since 2010, but it must also be said that in the following years there was a chance to win several times with Juventus and Inter last year. Unfortunately they didn't manage to raise it, but I believe that in the years to come and with all these new owners of the top Italian clubs, Inter Juventus and Milan will have further chances to win the Champions League. At least I hope so

Italian teams are not weak. However, they are not interested in spending a lot of money on squad formation. So even though the performance of Italian teams is stable, none of the Italian teams have a squad strong enough to win the Champions League title.

Inter Milan and Juventus are strong teams. And their management is rich enough. If these two clubs target the Champions League title and form squads, then these two teams will be able to dominate the Champions League. But they will not be interested in spending huge amounts to buy players. They will form a stable squad. But I don't think they will try to build a very strong squad.

[Velvet78]

Italian teams are just not in their golden age for now. But I agree, it doesn't show them weak at the same time. They have potential, especially Inter these days.

Because the squad they have built and the manager they have is a great mix to achieve bigger successes in time. Maybe playing in that Champions League finale was a good sign. This season didn't went very well there though but I believe they can do better again next time. The other big teams in the Serie A also have potential. But they first need better squads to be more competitive. Being in big debt also restricts these teams most of the time.